England vs. Algeria - Discussion Thread - K.O 7.30pm

[King Gizzard]

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Discuss the match in here, kick off 7.30pm, Green Point Stadium, Cape Town


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[MissKittyFantastico]

Oh my god you *****, I was gonna make this thread and you know it! :laugh:

Ahhhh can't wait till tomorrow, hopefully we'll have more to smile about than after the last match :)

I predict 2-0 to England, Rooney and Gerrard to score

[Kerry]

Was just about to say Kitty wanted to post this one! :laugh:

[GypsyGoth]

I think 3-0 :dance:

[Kerry]

Ugh I dunno.

4-2 England win

[King Gizzard]

But I make em so beautiful..and I was bored..

[MissKittyFantastico]

Pffffffffffffft

It's okay, I'll make the best England thread ever seen if we make it to the final :)

[Novo]

5-0

Gerrard (2)
Rooney (3)

[30stone]

4 - 0 or 4 - 1

Rooney 2

Lampard 1

Terry 1

[KG.]

England 4 - 1 Algeria

Rooney x2
Lampard
Defoe

[Big Brother Fan]

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England 2-1 Algeria

Rooney x 2
Green o.g.

[Locke.]

James is starting apparently, and Gareth Barry too.

[MissKittyFantastico]

I heard about Barry but not about James, that's a good decision I think

[spitfire]

Pffffffffffffft

It's okay, I'll make the best England thread ever seen WHEN we make it to the final :)
I look forward to it.:dance:

[MissKittyFantastico]

Rumours that he's starting Defoe instead of Heskey?

He needs to start with Heskey imo, he was MOTM for me last game, can always sub him in the second half

[King Gizzard]

Crouch should be playing.

[MissKittyFantastico]

Crouch is a super sub for me, bring him on if we don't look like scoring through anyone else

[King Gizzard]

There is no such thing as a super sub to me, he can do what he does from the bench from the off

[MissKittyFantastico]

SWP needs to start, and he needs to play Gerrard sat up behind Rooney, I think he'll be stubborn though and stick with Lamps and Stevie together in the middle :/

[Locke.]

David James in goal for England v Algeria. Heskey and Carragher start. Barry returns

[30stone]

SWP needs to start, and he needs to play Gerrard sat up behind Rooney, I think he'll be stubborn though and stick with Lamps and Stevie together in the middle :/

WDF?!

SWP?

He didnt kick the ball without losing it last game??

Joe Cole > James Milner > SWP

[30stone]

Out of the 23.. englands best starting 11..


------------Hart-----------

Johnson-Carragher-Terry-Cole

-------Barry--Lampard-------

Lennon----Gerrard-------Jcole

---------Rooney---------

[MissKittyFantastico]

WDF?!

SWP?

He didnt kick the ball without losing it last game??

Joe Cole > James Milner > SWP

SWP made a huge difference when he came on the last game. Cole would be my #1 choice as well but I can't see him starting with him.

Joe Cole > SWP > Milner

[Lee.]

Good luck to y'all! Hope you all have a great night wherever you're watching it and whatever you're doing :)

[MissKittyFantastico]

Aww thanks Lee, hope you have a good time too if you're watching (and even if you're not lol) :)

[Lee.]

Aww thanks Lee, hope you have a good time too if you're watching (and even if you're not lol) :)

I will be watching.. Remember I was telling you about my Texan brother in law last week? Well you will NEVER guess what?!.... This week I have discovered a long lost uncle, and guess where he's from??... ALGERIA! I just can't believe it!! :laugh:

[MissKittyFantastico]

I will be watching.. Remember I was telling you about my Texan brother in law last week? Well you will NEVER guess what?!.... This week I have discovered a long lost uncle, and guess where he's from??... ALGERIA! I just can't believe it!! :laugh:

Ahahahaha! Luckily for me I'm not as stupid as I look :p Nice try though ;)

[Lee.]

Ahahahaha! Luckily for me I'm not as stupid as I look :p Nice try though ;)


Hahahaha! Texan wasn't made up though honestly! :)

[30stone]

SWP made a huge difference when he came on the last game. Cole would be my #1 choice as well but I can't see him starting with him.

Joe Cole > SWP > Milner

He didnt he was poor.

The team changed yes.. but swp was still the worst out of 22 men

[Tiffany]

Has tonights team been confirmed yet ?

[MissKittyFantastico]

He didnt he was poor.

The team changed yes.. but swp was still the worst out of 22 men

Rooney actually gave the ball away more than he did Ben.

Anyway, each to their own opinion :)

[GypsyGoth]

I think Rooney will get three goals.

[MissKittyFantastico]

Are you watching the match tonight Claudia?

I think Rooney and Gerrard will score, maybe Crouch as well if he gets brought on as sub, but I'm predicting 2-0 tonight :)

[MissKittyFantastico]

Has tonights team been confirmed yet ?

The starting 11 for tonight...James, Johnson, Terry, Carragher, A Cole, Lennon, Lampard, Barry, Gerrard, Rooney, Heskey.

[GypsyGoth]

Are you watching the match tonight Claudia?

I think Rooney and Gerrard will score, maybe Crouch as well if he gets brought on as sub, but I'm predicting 2-0 tonight :)

Yep, I plan on it. I hope it's a fun match.

[King Gizzard]

getttttttttttttttttttt your tits out for england!!

[MissKittyFantastico]

Yep, I plan on it. I hope it's a fun match.

I hope it's as good as the game this afternoon, that was epic.

But so long as we win, that's all that really matters to me at the moment.

[Stacey.]

England must win

[Shaun]

oh WHY are we still bothering with Heskey? ¬_¬

[Lewis.]

I'd replace Heskey with Crouch. He only came on 5 minutes or so before the end last match but he played extremely well in those 5 minutes.

[MissKittyFantastico]

oh WHY are we still bothering with Heskey? ¬_¬

Because Heskey played really well last game, and he is Rooney's preferred partner up front.

[*mazedsalv**]

Dont hurt me but Im not supporting England as never do, but good luck to them and Algeria :)

Judging by the first 5 mins, both teams have loads of energy.

[Wildcat!]

Get ready foir a huge surprise guys! :)

[Shaun]

Wow, we're being uncharacteristically disappointing.

[MissKittyFantastico]

Shocking first half.

So frustrating because you can see them trying to make it work, but it's just not coming together at the moment.

[Shaun]

They keep making the same bloody shot from outside the box and IT. DOESN'T. WORK.

STOP. PLAYING. HESKEY.

[MissKittyFantastico]

Yep, all been shots on target but from distance first half.

Crouch will come on second half and score, can still see Rooney and Gerrard nicking one a piece as well though. They'll be getting the **** kicked out of them by Capello.

[Shaun]

another Heskey fail.

[Wildcat!]

Its not about Emile Heskey! Have we seen anything from Gerrard, Rooney or Lampard yet? Heskey at lest is always at the end of long balls. I think he is paying the best of all the forwards!

I have always said, England only got one player who is not a robot, and its Joe Cole in midfield. Everyone else plays like they have an internal program, and no imagination. They dont know how to create, and play with instincts!
Off the strikers, I prefer Phillips, Crouch and Defoe. ANd rooney is also really good on his day!

[Shaun]

Gerrard's been alright. The other two have been naff.

[arista]

No one has Scored.
70mins gone.


this looks Bad.

[King Gizzard]

For **** sake we need a change not a like for like sub

Get crouch or defoe on!!

[MissKittyFantastico]

Heskey is far from the worst player for us at the moment, Rooney's first touch tonight has been shocking for example.

Bring on Crouch or Defoe and Milner to take over from Barry (not sure if he can go 90 minutes), glad to see SWP come on but why the hell will he not play Joe Cole?

[Stacey.]

that was a good try from Gerrard

[Wildcat!]

That boggles my mind! For me Joe Cole, and David Beckham has alw3ays been the English players to make things happen!

[MissKittyFantastico]

**** it bring Becks on!!

[GypsyGoth]

I thought this would be fun, it's very tense.

[MissKittyFantastico]

Yes Defoe is coming on!! Heskey off

[King Gizzard]

What a great sub SWP for Lennon was :rolleyes:

[MissKittyFantastico]

Don't really see the point in a straight swap when we need to win the game

[Smithy]

Have we won yet?

[MissKittyFantastico]

It's 0-0 Smithy

[Smithy]

Well that was worth the trip in here then wasnt it

:rolleyes:

[MissKittyFantastico]

Like you care :p

[Wildcat!]

Don't really see the point in a straight swap when we need to win the game

You dont reallyt need to win the game. Thats the problem with a lot of english fans, they think they have to beat everyone. Algeria are no slouch, and a draw stll have you in a good positioon. Just gotta win the last game.

[Smithy]

Like you care :p

:laugh:

No not really :tongue:

[Angus]

Well if we can't beat Algeria it really is all over. Embarrassing to watch really.

[MissKittyFantastico]

You dont reallyt need to win the game. Thats the problem with a lot of english fans, they think they have to beat everyone. Algeria are no slouch, and a draw stll have you in a good positioon. Just gotta win the last game.

It's more the fact that we don't look like we can beat anyone at the moment, and we don't need any more pressure on us! I dont want to be heading into the last game HAVING to win.

[MissKittyFantastico]

Barry off, Crouch on! Come on 50pence head!!!!!

[arista]

6mins to go.


No Score - This is Tragic.

[arista]

Look at Terry Cheating again.

[MissKittyFantastico]

3 mins of time added on....

[arista]

Tragic

[arista]

Our Goal Keeper just said Fucck It

[Angus]

To sum up - a bunch of overpaid, over-rated, under-achieving tossers. A cringeworthy performance.

[MissKittyFantastico]

Shocking. I'm actually disgusted.

[GiRTh]

Terrible.

[Shaun]

I joined in with the booing.

[KG.]

What a load of ****.

At least Rooney decided to play... oh wait.

[King Gizzard]

useless

feel free to tell us that we were ****e

[Wildcat!]

SO!!!! Where is David, and Novo, witht he assured 7pts? Didnt I tell you, your team are no world beaters?? That you should respect all the oppponents you face, instead of thinking its a god given right win? Hope this be a lesson to yall!
:)

[King Gizzard]

At the pub or with mates watching the game, I presume.

[SocietyIsRuined]

If they go out first round then not one of these players should play for England again. Go with everyone else because they don't want to play for England and that includes everyone no exceptions.

Oh and fire that excuse of a manager who is on millions to produce.

[arista]

To sum up - a bunch of overpaid, over-rated, under-achieving tossers. A cringeworthy performance.



Well Terry
played bad

[Jords]

England played sh!t. :/

[MissKittyFantastico]

SO!!!! Where is David, and Novo, witht he assured 7pts? Didnt I tell you, your team are no world beaters?? That you should respect all the oppponents you face, instead of thinking its a god given right win? Hope this be a lesson to yall!
:)

Not all of us were acting like that to be fair.

[Smithy]

Did Green score for us again? :)

[Locke.]

Well done lads on another point picked up, nice easy win against Slovenia coming up next to put us through :)

[Angus]

SO!!!! Where is David, and Novo, witht he assured 7pts? Didnt I tell you, your team are no world beaters?? That you should respect all the oppponents you face, instead of thinking its a god given right win? Hope this be a lesson to yall!
:)

That's the problem exactly - England seem to have a complacent belief that time has stood still and they can still easily beat the likes of USA and Algeria. How wrong they are.

[MissKittyFantastico]

Did Green score for us again? :)

It was 0-0 you numpty :laugh:

[SocietyIsRuined]

Well done lads on another point picked up, nice easy win against Slovenia coming up next to put us through :)

Yeah to get knocked out the game after. If you're happy with that then god help the future of the English national team.

[Smithy]

It was 0-0 you numpty :laugh:

Oh ok :P

That aint to good considering Ireland got like 3-0 and they couldn't even qualify

[MissKittyFantastico]

Well done lads on another point picked up, nice easy win against Slovenia coming up next to put us through :)

Well done?! Now I know you're taking the piss.

[King Gizzard]

''Nice to see your home fans booing you'' Well Rooney, they did pay **** loads of money to go out there to watch you you idiot

[Locke.]

James - 7/10

Johnson - 5/10
Carragher - 8/10
Terry - 7/10
Cole - 6/10

Lennon - 6/10
Lampard - 6/10
Barry - 8/10
Gerrard - 6.5/10

Rooney - 3/10
Heskey - 5/10

Wright Phillips - 5/10
Defoe - 6.5/10
Crouch - 6/10

[30stone]

''Nice to see your home fans booing you'' Well Rooney, they did pay **** loads of money to go out there to watch you you idiot

You need to understand the frustration.


He is frustrated he didnt mean it, he just said it because of the dissapointment with his performance.

[MissKittyFantastico]

Don't see how you can rate any of them above a 3/4 tbh

Actually scrap that James did well.

[30stone]

Very pissed off at people starting to turn on capello, its not his fault, its the players, they just didnt perform.


They will have to perform next game i guess.

[30stone]

Have to admit the positioning was wrong, gerrard is crap on the left.
Much better behind rooney.

[30stone]

Johnson looked terrible tonight.

[King Gizzard]

Very pissed off at people starting to turn on capello, its not his fault, its the players, they just didnt perform.


They will have to perform next game i guess.
It's his fault partially as well for not changing the ****ing formation

Gerrard likes to play off Rooney, and Rooney does not like playing on the left

[MissKittyFantastico]

Gerrard should always play in the centre

[MissKittyFantastico]

And the formation blatantly needs changing, Capello seems to be too stubborn to do it, so who else are we meant to blame for that?

The players didn't look like they were out to win, that's the most frustrating thing for me, and they looked like they didn't know what to do half the time

Defoe made the biggest difference when he came on

[Locke.]

I really can't see us beating Slovenia you know. They will go into that game knowing that a point will get them through a (for them) tough group, and they'll do their country proud by getting through. They will just defend an get the point

[Shaun]

Capello is too good for England.

[Shaun]

I really can't see us beating Slovenia you know. They will go into that game knowing that a point will get them through a (for them) tough group, and they'll do their country proud by getting through. They will just defend an get the point

I can't either, but a point won't see us through.

[Locke.]

I meant that's what Slovenia will do, defend for the point

[Wildcat!]

Johnson looked terrible tonight.

Johnson is the best defender you have. I thought he was comfortable the whole game. He didnt do too much offensively, but the Algerian made a mistake trying to go after him on the wing. They shoulcve attacked Ashley Cole, and they woulkdve been a lot more dangerous!

Johnson is your only sure thing defender, with Terry maybe.

[Nemo123]

All the triumphalist ads, like the Visa one just now on 4, are looking a bit silly.

[30stone]

Terry and cole is a great partnership that side.

Cole is a better defender imo.

[30stone]

All the triumphalist ads, like the Visa one just now on 4, are looking a bit silly.

England in ROOins


is looking about right though. lol

[GiRTh]

On BBc right now. Woeful. Fabio looks puzzled.

[Vicky.]

We did pretty crap

[MissKittyFantastico]

Terry made a massive boo boo that could have resulted in a goal for them and would have against a better team.

I thought Cole and Johnson were the best in defence tonight and Barry did a good job as well in his first game.

Still say that Jags should be there, if he can take such a risk on King (which didnt pay off) then why the hell shouldn't he be there? At least he's match fit ffs.

Anyway we better somehow stick a rocket up our arses before the Slovakia game because a point is not good enough and we may as well go home now if we're gonna put in another performance like tonight.

[King Gizzard]

James Cordens show where hes with John Terry - fcking hilarious lmao

[30stone]

Honestly thinking hes regretting walcott..

Walcott can be **** can be amazing, and by now i think walcott would have been the best winger out of the 3..

[Locke.]

Walcott isn't good enough for international football

[MissKittyFantastico]

Nah Walcott didn't give him any reason to select him, mind you neither did Warnock, or King, or Carragher....

[Novo]

Bougherra was the difference and i am not just saying that because i am a Rangers fan, I honestly believe if he never played tonight England would have won that game, he cancelled out every single England attack that came his way controlled the whole game from the back and headed everything that came his way.. Had Rooney in his Pocket and never let him get away, He was obviously set to man mark rooney and did a perfect Job
Cut Passes out all match and never gave Gerrard and Lampard any chance to get forward.

The perfect defensive performance and was Immense getting forward to support the players on the Wing as well.. his crosses were Outstanding and coursed david james problems and even in the Box he looked dangerous

[James]

Man of the Match... Boogie

[MissKittyFantastico]

Not that bloody gif again :laugh:

[James]

Yeah was just about to edit my post lol.

[Novo]

The greatest GIF you will ever see

[King Gizzard]

Well I like how plain and simple it is now, we have to win, and that is that

We should beat Slovenia no matter what they do to try and stop us, just like we should of beaten Algeria tonight

[Nemo123]

Yeah, teams who only need a draw alwys lose. England should win.

[RtooDee2]

I feel sick.

[Kerry]

Deary me

[arsenalforever]

England were awful
no pride in wearing their country shirts
fans spending a ton of money goign over there and seen that type of football must wish they didn't

[alc09]

Rooney can **** right off. As can the rest of the overpaid, mollycoddled *****. Those supporters you're so keen to slag off you ugly scouse bastard earn (and they actually earn as opposed to "are paid") about 1/3 a YEAR of what you get paid every week. They've spent probably in the region of a couple of months wages to watch you and your smug complacent mates be an utter ****ing disgrace to the shirt - you know, less than the amount of money you regularly drop in a quiet night in a club to impress your gaggle of vacuous hangers-on on a weekly basis. So **** off, **** the lot of you. Not getting any ****ing support. You're lucky they didn't ****ing lynch you. I hope they all get roundly booed every game next season every time they touch the ball.

[Claymores]

I just love it when a plan comes together alc09

Were you playing your A-Team?

[30stone]

Nah Walcott didn't give him any reason to select him, mind you neither did Warnock, or King, or Carragher....

Walcott would have done more than lennon and swp put together by now.

[Nemo123]

"Roo blows fuse" and other front pages:

http://news.sky.com/skynews/Home/UK-News/Newspaper-Front-Pages-Saturday-June-19-2010/Media-Gallery/201006315651583?lpos=UK_News_Left_Promo_Region_0&lid=GALLERY_15651583_Newspaper_Front_Pages%3A_Satu rday_June_19%2C_2010

[Nemo123]

BBC pundits blaming tension. How the hell will they cope now they must beat Slovenia?

[Mike]

We were shocking, no passion, no desire, no nothing. We don't deserve to reach the later stages. Feel for the people that have paid all that money to go over there...

[Nemo123]

England have got to practice shooting with that ball, anything could happen.

[Nemo123]

The current English crop of players aren't actually a patch on the players Bobby Robson had back in '88 and '90.

You had Shilton, Adams, Robson, Beardsley, Lineker, Hoddle, and a couple more.

[Claymores]

England have got to practice shooting with that ball, anything could happen.

It's the ball's problem - not that Engerland are sh1te

[alc09]

Gerrard must have had a big say in bringing Carragher back to international football. It says something that the highlight of the night was the joy of seeing Carragher get booked, so he's suspended for the next game.

[Colbert-Bump]

I though Sven's side was bad...nothing on this lot.

[Kerry]

I'm ashamed of Rooneys reaction. I'm actually glad I didn't see it first hand. I was already furious, nevermind him kicking a tantrum

[Claymores]

I'm ashamed of Rooneys reaction. I'm actually glad I didn't see it first hand. I was already furious, nevermind him kicking a tantrum

Just wait for Slovenia Kaerry

[Kerry]

Just wait for Slovenia Kaerry

It's Kerry

[Claymores]

It's Kerry

Blame the alcohol for my typing miss K

[setanta]

Really spirited performance from the Algerians, showing nice technique and passing ability, which they would have won if they had a little more coolness, precision and firepower in the last third of the pitch.

[Nemo123]

If I was an England fan I'd be worried looking at Beckham and the royal brothers having tea and smiles and all relaxed. It's tin-hat time, no-one likes us we don't care Millwall bunker time, not cream teas and how-de-dos.

[Claymores]

Really spirited performance from the Algerians, showing nice technique and passing ability, which they would have won if they had a little more coolness, precision and firepower in the last third of the pitch.

They didn't have Sir Wayne playing forr them setanta - oh wait a minute yes they did. Not enough confidence they could cuff the Engerlish and push forwards more and take advantage of a crap team.

[setanta]

They didn't have Sir Wayne playing forr them setanta - oh wait a minute yes they did. Not enough confidence they could cuff the Engerlish and push forwards more and take advantage of a crap team.

There was so many openings that they didn't take advantage of. Just lost their composure in the final third.

[Claymores]

There was so many openings that they didn't take advantage of. Just lost their composure in the final third.

The cross in the opening 15 mins when the bloke didn't just hit it but tried a pass back to the winger.- I blame their manager - just weren't set-up to cuff the poor team Algeria were playing.

[setanta]

The cross in the opening 15 mins when the bloke didn't just hit it but tried a pass back to the winger.- I blame their manager - just weren't set-up to cuff the poor team Algeria were playing.

Yeah, he should have swung a boot at it. And for the last 15 mins or so England were even more all over the place and they could have easily capitalized on it. Just didn't have it up front. Slovenia are handier in that department. It'll be very interesting to watch.

[Locke.]

Start either Crouch or Defoe against Slovenia and we'll pick up three points, can't take the risk of having Heskey setting Rooney up and it not working for a third time in a row.

[setanta]

Rooney doesn't look at the races at all. It would take a very brave man to drop him though. Either that or you play 4-5-1 with Gerrard behind him because this formation is simply not working for you. Oh, and I'd drop Lampard too.

[Nemo123]

Rooney has to be a risk at this stage. He could blow a fuse.

[Claymores]

Rooney doesn't look at the races at all. It would take a very brave man to drop him though. Either that or you play 4-5-1 with Gerrard behind him because this formation is simply not working for you. Oh, and I'd drop Lampard too.

Think you just made a bad call on Lampard setanta

Play Robert Green in goal too :joker:

[setanta]

Oh, and honestly, if you decide to play 4-4-2 again I wouldn't play Lampard or Gerrard. Not alone are they not designed to play in those positions, but they also can't play together. Carrick and Barry - even though I'm not keen on either but they know how to play that system. Why wasn't Parker selected? Mental.

If you go 4-5-1 it's either Lampard or Gerrard. Don't think you can play both in either formation.

[setanta]

Think you just made a bad call on Lampard setanta

Play Robert Green in goal too :joker:

Yeah, what am I on about actually? Green, 4-4-2 with Heskey, Lampard and Gerrard in. Magic hour. Oh, and Upson.

[Kerry]

Blame the alcohol for my typing miss K

Nay worries. I kinda liked it

[King Gizzard]

In all honesty I'd play

James

Johnson Dawson Ferdinand Cole

Milner Lampard Barry Cole

Gerrard

Crouch



Rooney can fcking stay on the bench

Cole can give us the flair that no one else has, and SWP/Lennon both didn't perform

[Kerry]

Wish they'd stop thowing Crouch on in the dying minutes and I also wish they'd stop playing Heskey. OK he can bully off the ball but he can't fecking run!

[King Gizzard]

Or score

[setanta]

Can't play Gerrard and Lampard on the same team. That midfield is leggy. You'd need Milner to play out of his skin.

[King Gizzard]

You can play them together, just not together within the team, Gerrard as a forward, Lampard as a creative midfielder, so they don't clash

[setanta]

But Barry is leggy. And I don't rate him. Gerrard and Lampard play the same role for their clubs and never know where their responsibilities lie when they play for their country. Honestly, I think one of them should be dropped. That's the ballsy play.

[Kerry]

Or score

Very true

Infact playing footballs debatable...

[King Gizzard]

Hes good at what he does. But when we realllly need goals should we play him? no...Bent should be there

And yea Barry looks like hes knackered..we should of took scott parker as cover I think

[setanta]

I will never understand why he didn't take Parker. It was the obvious choice. You really don't have a midfield because I've never rated Carrick or Barry.

[Kerry]

I want some young guns on. Not likely now, but some greedy up for it lads. Wright-Phillips needs starts for me. That lad can run

[King Gizzard]

A.Young is a better cross than Lennon and SWP, should be there really :/

[setanta]

Forget about the wings, you need a midfield

[Kerry]

A.Young is a better cross than Lennon and SWP, should be there really :/

I had high hopes for Lennon :(

[Big Brother Fan]

In all honesty I'd play

James

Johnson Dawson Ferdinand Cole

Milner Lampard Barry Cole

Gerrard

Crouch



Rooney can fcking stay on the bench



Put your best player on the bench because he's not playing properly. Did he not spend 15 minutes playing out wide left against Algeria?