Who is Most to Blame for Tonight's Argument?

[Jords]

Ben and Shabby have had another blow, and several other housemates have been dragged into it, but who's fault is it most that it occured? :spin:


Ben - he gossiped about Shabby to John James saying he thinks she is glad the trouble started earlier today [she rubbed her hands and smiled], and is trying to get him up for eviction this week.

John James - for telling Josie and Govan what Ben told him, when it was supposed to be confidential between the 2.

Josie - she argued with John James earlier, and when she saw him 'whispering' just before this argument she thought it was about her and Govan, would this have started if she didnt pull him up for it?

Govan - as soon as John James told him what Ben said, he ran off to Shabby, Ife and Caoimhe and revealed to them what went on in the bathroom.

Shabby - went straight to the bathroom to confront John James, and then Ben.

Sunshine - her general presence causes these thing. :hugesmile:
She wasnt actually about through it all, LOL.


Its like a murder mystery, whodunnit? ;)

[Jordan.]

Thanks for this Jords, i missed it :p

Sounds like Govan is mainly to blame for telling Shabby when he knew shes kick off :bored: get them both out! i hope they are up this week. :bored:

[Alpertinator]

Sadly I think Ben. He made the source of the incident. He created it, as much as I hate it.

[Jords]

Thanks for this Jords, i missed it :p

Sounds like Govan is mainly to blame for telling Shabby when he knew shes kick off :bored: get them both out! i hope they are up this week. :bored:

No problem. :)
Yepp I reckon Govan knew she would start too, its like he searches for drama!

Sadly I think Ben. He made the source of the incident. He created it, as much as I hate it.

Thing is, if what Ben said was true about Shabby, then he has a right to point it out right?

[Zippy]

Sunshine.

[Fetch The Bolt Cutters]

Sunshine - her general presence causes these thing

:joker::joker::joker::joker:

[Jordan.]

Poor Sunshine, is she even aware anythings happening i havent seen her :p

[GypsyGoth]

Well Govan is beause he told Shabby.

However Ben was in the wrong first for saying stuff to JJ.

[Rob!]

I like Ben, but I have a feeling that he caused this. I doubt it was malicious, but if I've got the general grip of this then it's Ben.

However.

Shabby is being very aggressive about it all and does not seem to know how to stop arguing. Her reacting in the way she has has obviously escalated this.

However.

Govan is a little ****-stirring little worm. Nuff said.

[Zippy]

Ben started the chain reaction.

But, of course, Govan will get the main blame. Zzz.

[BB_Eye]

I can't work out whether JJ is two-faced or just thick. Probably both.

[BJ]

JJ is the real snake in the grass. He told Govan, whose just a little weazle, knowing he'd tell the girls.

Ben is JJs new target and if he can get rid of him he'll be after Mario next.

Dave just plays it safe. He's not Ben's true friend but knows he can't mix with the girls

That's what I think, anyway:spin:

[Zippy]

I can't work out whether JJ is two-faced or just thick. Probably both.

He's a game player and he's talking about others like theyre players; who can I trust? How can I tell which one is lying to me?

The player's suddenly angry about being played. At least his headaches gone. Lol.

[bettiepage]

Govan just stirred that **** tonight. creepy ****.

[BB_Eye]

I can't believe I'm one of only three people that voted Shabby.

[Mike]

Govan is the one to blame IMO, running from group to group stiring it all up and siding with whoever he's talking to at the time - He's quietly loving all the tension...

[MrWong]

Ben started the chain reaction.

But, of course, Govan will get the main blame. Zzz.

Yep, Ben was sh!t stirring, influencing JJ's noms, it was blatrantly obvious :sleep::sleep::sleep:

Ben did the same last week, starting rows with both Shabby and Sunshine, coincidently before nominations. This is his MO, this is how he rolls.

Ben is the biggest manipulator in the house and it all just totally backfired

Roll on nominations :elephant::elephant::elephant:

[starry]

I dislike Shabby and Ben, I would be happy with both gone whoever started this argument.

[yousoboo!]

Govan is a snake

[MrWong]

I dislike Shabby and Ben, I would be happy with both gone whoever started this argument.

Ben started it with his stirring. That's how he rolls. Always thinking about the game/noms. Planting lies in peoples shell-like in an attempt to get them to nominate the people he dislikes.

Shabby also had a go at Ben for how he's treating Sunshine, saying that he's supposed to be her friend yet he's always making her upset and saying nasty things about her. Little do they know that Ben has nominated his supposed friend too.

:rolleyes:

[starry]

Well I do dislike Ben more, but I don't want to put up with this fake showmance either.

[rusticgal]

Govan.....couldnt keep his big mouth shut.JJ shouldnt have told gollom but I think he considers him a friend.However Ben has warned JJ of what he is capable of...maybe he just didnt believe he would do such a thing or was testing him!!... Gollom knew that by telling Shabby and her crew that it would all kick off.Gollum does not like Ben cos ben is onto him....he did it deliberatly.

[DrunkerThanMoses]

Govans the killer.

[MrWong]

]Govan.....couldnt keep his big mouth shut[/B].JJ shouldnt have told gollom but I think he considers him a friend.However Ben has warned JJ of what he is capable of...maybe he just didnt believe he would do such a thing or was testing him!!... Gollom knew that by telling Shabby and her crew that it would all kick off.Gollum does not like Ben cos ben is onto him....he did it deliberatly.

Correction - Ben couldn't keep his big mouth shut.

He started the crap last night, the buck stops with him.

[starry]

Shabby also had a go at Ben for how he's treating Sunshine, saying that he's supposed to be her friend yet he's always making her upset and saying nasty things about her. Little do they know that Ben has nominated his supposed friend too.

:rolleyes:

They didn't show that on the video on the official website, no doubt it won't be shown on the HLs. Looks to me like it will be a pro-Ben edit.

[MrWong]

They didn't show that on the video on the official website, no doubt it won't be shown on the HLs.

Well to be fair the row did go on for atleast 2 hours and Sunshine was tucked up in bed with Corin totally oblivious.

[starry]

Yeh but still look at that video seems pro-Ben to me, it's just Shabby saying she doesn't want to talk and Ben looking calm. Not really any interesting points made. And Ben spews alot of bitching about Sunshine in the house, as does his sidekick Mario. It would nice to have something the other way for a change.

[DrunkerThanMoses]

Anyone record the argument, the full argument?

[MrWong]

Yeh but still look at that video seems pro-Ben to me, it's just Shabby saying she doesn't want to talk and Ben looking calm. Not really any interesting points made. And Ben spews alot of bitching about Sunshine in the house, as does his sidekick Mario. It would nice to have something the other way for a change.

Oh i totally agree, they will spin this in Ben's favour just like last week when he was the instigator in both of the rows with Shabby and Sunshine, just before noms.

Ben's well aware that his little drips of poison has the effect of causing sh!t, that's why he does it. Painting targets on other peoples backs so that come nominations he'll be left alone.

He's well aware of what he is doing and does it deliberately but feigns innocence when caught out and puts on the 'bumbling baffoon' act. :rolleyes:

[MojoNixon]

Shabby, Govan & JJ.

[BJ]

Govan.....couldnt keep his big mouth shut.JJ shouldnt have told gollom but I think he considers him a friend.However Ben has warned JJ of what he is capable of...maybe he just didnt believe he would do such a thing or was testing him!!... Gollom knew that by telling Shabby and her crew that it would all kick off.Gollum does not like Ben cos ben is onto him....he did it deliberatly.

JJ knew Govan would tell the girls and it would all kick off. He's the biggest gameplayer. Ben is too naive and Shabby loves being able to play victim

[Lostie!]

Ben. He's too wrapped up in "the game", and he's now caused a meltdown.

And a shout out for Govan, who basically masterminded the blow-up, knowing precisely what his actions would result in.

[MrWong]

JJ knew Govan would tell the girls and it would all kick off. He's the biggest gameplayer. Ben is too naive and Shabby loves being able to play victim

Shabby didn't have to play the victim, she was the victim in last nights row. I hate JJ but there's noway he dropped Ben in the sh!t deliberately.

Ben dropped himself in it by attempting to influence JJ to dislike Shabby by stirring about her, due to it being noms today.

It backfired on Ben, simple as.

[MrWong]

Ben. He's too wrapped up in "the game", and he's now caused a meltdown.

Damn straight! He's constantly analysing the game in his desperation not to be nominated.

[Jords]

Bump, now most of you have seen whats gone on because of the HL's. :p

[Stacey.]

Govan didn't do anything for **** sake!

it was Ben in fairness.

[bettiepage]

Govan didn't do anything for **** sake!

it was Ben in fairness.

yeah Stacey...... Govan did nothing....
:joker:

[troy4783]

This forum is crazy it with out a doubt bens fault so what if govan told shabby she had a right to know

[Stacey.]

yeah Stacey...... Govan did nothing....
:joker:

he actually didn't though.

people already dislike him so pick up on any little thing he does wrong.

[calyman]

Ben foolishly believed he was putting forward a point to put in perspective why JJ was hassling him about the suasage rolls ffs. JJ for his own nasty reasons passed on this non issue of a comment to the rancid Govan, who in turn couldn't get off his lazy ass quick enough to gloat over this insignificant comment to chippy shabby who then blew it all out of proportion. She has the gall to call Ben over making comments about her, while reserving the right to drone on and on about Ben behind his back with her poisonous drivel.

She completely lost the arguemtn though, despite being so gobby and bullying, Ben cleverly let her rant and rage over what is in real terms a matter of no importance. Even she knew she'd been outmanouvered by Ben and that is what has really annoyed her. The nasty comments she made after the argument about anyone who went to comfort Ben really shows how much she understood that she lost any initiative and has shown herself in a really nasty and vindictive light. Her "friends" don't come out of it too well also, though they of course can't even grasp that little thing.

Well done Ben, you played a blinder tonight.

[Patrick]

Sunshine.

Her *****ing sh*t dancing and murdering Bad Romance put everyone in a bad mood.

[lynz]

Shabby needed more airtime so practiced more of her dramatics - making a mountain out of a molehill.

[Rachelll]

Josie

[GiRTh]

Govan. It was a strange bit of sh(t stirring considering he's wants to leave.

[King Gizzard]

The argument wouldn't of happened if it wasnt for Govan spreading it.

All parties were to blame though

[BB_Eye]

After watching the HL show, I think JJ has a lot to answer for. He was an even bigger shitstirrer than Govan.

[Lee.]

I voted for Govan.. There was absolutely no need for him to tell Shabby what had been said. If there was sh!t going to happen between Ben/Shabby/JJ over the whole situation, it probably would have happened at some point anyway.. Govan did not need to get involved. He just likes a drama!

[o8kawasaki89]

Govan, he sh*t stirs! he goes on about people minding their own business but he is always in every arguement! And using it to start trouble!

[letmein]

Ben should keep his putrid mouth shut! :nono:

[Angus]

Well Govan is beause he told Shabby.

However Ben was in the wrong first for saying stuff to JJ.

So Shabby and her little gang can slag anyone they like off behind their backs, but that is a luxury reserved just for them is it? Ben is entitled to his opinion which happens to be correct. The reason Shabby cannot stand Ben is that he saw right through her from day one, that she is what she is, a bloody drama queen (in all senses of the word), and about as phoney and fake as they come.

Watch the next few days as she and her puppy dog Caoimhe attempt to keep her in with their faux romance.

[Angus]

This forum is crazy it with out a doubt bens fault so what if govan told shabby she had a right to know

Yet he doesn't report back to Ben and co all the poisonous **** she spouts about them? Hypocrite!

[troy4783]

Yet he doesn't report back to Ben and co all the poisonous **** she spouts about them? Hypocrite!

he is not close with them thats why also they have hardly been even talking about ben and co ben just likes to think they do

[jrae123]

Ife..... no, Govan.