Now we know the real reason behind JJ's hatred

[skkc16]

hahahahahahahahahaha

he was picked on by the "cool girls" like in Mean Girls.
Imean dude seriously move on there's no need for him to go about picking on pretty girls just because of that wat a wanker

[skkc16]

*bumb*

[rayheartbliss]

"hahahaha"
you just show why he should go on picking on pretty girls


move on racheal is evicted

[skkc16]

"hahahaha"
you just show why he should go on picking on pretty girls


move on racheal is evicted

I have moved on from rachael's eviction but I haven't forgotten JJ's undeserved meanness towards her and I believe past experiences shouldn't play a fact in how you view someone unless they give you reason to and rachael never did that she liked him even before and after he was mean to her

[Twilight]

I felt really sorry for him, Hes insecure, no wonder he didn't like the way racheal was looking at him.

[Stacey.]

He gives worse looks than her.

it's so obvious he loves himself a lot more than she loves herself.

vile **** he is

[b7515]

I'm not sure I buy it. His story just seems a little too contrived.

[bringbackscience]

Rachel isn't that pretty so that can't be the reason he didn't like her. I think you have got it wrong.

[rayheartbliss]

I have moved on from rachael's eviction but I haven't forgotten JJ's undeserved meanness towards her and I believe past experiences shouldn't play a fact in how you view someone unless they give you reason to and rachael never did that she liked him even before and after he was mean to her

ok good point, but how isit that your clearly amused by knowing that someone was picked on by this school sub-culture "mean girls" :nono:

[Lucy.]

He isn't insecure. He knows he's 'hot'.

[DigitalSid]

Reason or not, he's still a ****e.

[Speedster]

hahahahahahahahahaha

he was picked on by the "cool girls" like in Mean Girls.
Imean dude seriously move on there's no need for him to go about picking on pretty girls just because of that wat a wanker

Too right. When I was in school I was picked by all the kids in 2 different schools because I was in wheelchair but I haven't gone through life hating every single able bodied person, that's just stupid.

People are all individuals, the people who bullied Me vansihed from My life a long time ago, just like the ones who bullied john.

[skkc16]

ok good point, but how isit that your clearly amused by knowing that someone was picked on by this school sub-culture "mean girls" :nono:

that's not wat amuses me it's the fact that he then goes on to do the exact same thing that happened to him and I'm sorry but such stupidity and ignorance is quite amusing and not in a complimentary way

[Claymores]

that's not wat amuses me it's the fact that he then goes on to do the exact same thing that happened to him and I'm sorry but such stupidity and ignorance is quite amusing and not in a complimentary way


Fail - he didn't ever criticise Rachael because of her looks/stature/weight/appearance - he criticised Rachael because of her attitude (he felt she was up her own arse and she treated others in the house as beneath being worthy of her time or interest).

[rayheartbliss]

that's not wat amuses me it's the fact that he then goes on to do the exact same thing that happened to him and I'm sorry but such stupidity and ignorance is quite amusing and not in a complimentary way

'clearly' your post doesnt show that

[Jack_]

He gives worse looks than her.

it's so obvious he loves himself a lot more than she loves herself.

vile **** he is

Insecure people don't love themselves... :conf:

And for the record, you don't just 'get over' these things easily, OP.

[skkc16]

Fail - he didn't ever criticise Rachael because of her looks/stature/weight/appearance - he criticised Rachael because of her attitude (he felt she was up her own arse and she treated others in the house as beneath being worthy of her time or interest).

That's what he used as a reason he obviously couldn't tell her that he didn't like her because she was attractive and how is it none of the HM she supposedly looked down on noticed this it was just JJ who had a problem that didn't even exist

[Claymores]

That's what he used as a reason he obviously couldn't tell her that he didn't like her because she was attractive and how is it none of the HM she supposedly looked down on noticed this it was just JJ who had a problem that didn't even exist

:sleep:

I give up on the sprogs on here sometimes - now your a qualified psychologist how has done in-depth alaysis through lengthy therapy sessions eh?!

Get over it - the public drop-kicked Rachael, not JJ.

[skkc16]

Insecure people don't love themselves... :conf:

And for the record, you don't just 'get over' these things easily, OP.

Tbh I don't even but his insecure bs .....yes you don't get over these things but when was high school for JJ probably 5/6 yrs ago he well should be over it by now

[skkc16]

:sleep:

I give up on the sprogs on here sometimes - now your a qualified psychologist how has done in-depth alaysis through lengthy therapy sessions eh?!

Get over it - the public drop-kicked Rachael, not JJ.

You don't need to b a psychologist to see thru sh*t like JJ and like I said before I'm over rachael's eviction but I still haven't forgotten JJs treatment of her

[skullofhank]

I think JJ is playing a clever game, he comes from Oz where the prize for BB is a million pounds! - he flew all the way to the uk for auditions. All the stuff he comes up with i believe is to either influence his fellow housemates or the viewers. ie "i respect women and dont want a blow job" "i was bullied as a child" - etc etc GAMEPLAYER.

[Claymores]

You don't need to b a psychologist to see thru sh*t like JJ and like I said before I'm over rachael's eviction but I still haven't forgotten JJs treatment of her

It's as plain as day his hatred - he couldn't stick her as he felt she was up her own arse..........obviously the public agreed must have agreed with his thoughts as they gave her the boot. It's no harder to figure than that Einstein.

[Deirdre]

I can see where he's coming from. If you were bullied pretty bad in your childhood, it's bound to have an affect on you and you tend to hold grudges. I guess Rachael reminded him of the girls that bullied him and that's why he got so angry. It's understandable.

[Twilight]

You don't get over **** that easily, my sister was bullied in school when she was 13 because she was overweight, shes in her 30's now, and shes still insecure about her looks.

[tpau21]

he a ***** douche end of

[skkc16]

It's as plain as day his hatred - he couldn't stick her as he felt she was up her own arse..........obviously the public agreed must have agreed with his thoughts as they gave her the boot. It's no harder to figure than that Einstein.

Lets just agree to disagree I believe rachael got evicted because a lot female felt threatened by her and also because she got a lot of airtime the last days before eviction and people forgot all about sunshine and I don't believe the public agreed with him apart from you a lot of people have been saying he was completely out of order and couldn't have been more wrong about rachael

[Claymores]

Lets just agree to disagree I believe rachael got evicted because a lot female felt threatened by her

Why on earth should they feel threatened by a low-grade contestant on a low-budget reality show :conf::conf::conf:

[Lee.]

Why on earth should they feel threatened by a low-grade contestant on a low-budget reality show :conf::conf::conf:

Same old chestnut year after year.. *yawns*
Us women apparently can only dislike women for one reason.. jealousy! It's pathetic

[Claymores]

Same old chestnut year after year.. *yawns*
Us women apparently can only dislike women for one reason.. jealousy! It's pathetic

Yez R All Jelus apparently Lee :hugesmile:

[Lee.]

Yez R All Jelus apparently Lee :hugesmile:

A lot of pi$h! I've never ever ever felt jealous of a BB contestant in my life! In fact never felt jealous of anybody! It's a horrible trait!

[elliebelly]

:sleep:

I give up on the sprogs on here sometimes - now your a qualified psychologist how has done in-depth alaysis through lengthy therapy sessions eh?!

Get over it - the public drop-kicked Rachael, not JJ.

You are forgetting that she was not up for eviction in the first week. She got a raw deal! It was just JJ that didnt like her! If she didnt get put up for eviction she would have had another week to prove herself. Clearly the rest of the housemates did not have a problem with her. I thought that maybe JJ had a bad time with pretty girls. I may be wrong! But either way yes she got evicted because after JJ behaviour towards her, would have had most of the public thinking the same! I am sure she would have survived another couple of weeks if she did not get such an unfair way of going up for eviction! I was not keen on her, but I thought she got picked unfairly!!

[p3bbl3z]

There's a psychological theory which states that when you take an automatic dislike to someone you meet, it is because they remind you of someone from your past that did something bad to you (even if you were too young to remember it) it can be the shape of their face, the space between the eyes. Just something little that you sub-contiously pick up on.
In jj's case that look could have been a trigger

[BJ]

I think JJ is playing a clever game, he comes from Oz where the prize for BB is a million pounds! - he flew all the way to the uk for auditions. All the stuff he comes up with i believe is to either influence his fellow housemates or the viewers. ie "i respect women and dont want a blow job" "i was bullied as a child" - etc etc GAMEPLAYER.

I agree it's a very clever game. I don't believe the bullied at school thing and he's certainly not insecure.

[cookiemonster]

i don't know how some of you can say he loves himself. he clearly doesn't. he constantly hides under a hood and never takes his top off.

[Lee.]

i don't know how some of you can say he loves himself. he clearly doesn't. he constantly hides under a hood and never takes his top off.

I am living in hope! :D

[Enid]

I love vulnerable men.

[Alpertinator]

i don't know how some of you can say he loves himself. he clearly doesn't. he constantly hides under a hood and never takes his top off.

Well said man. Some of these people are deluded. He genuinely is insecure and not the kind of guy he looks like.

[Zippy]

How many times as he mentioned the bullying stuff now? Just in case anybody missed it after the rachael crap. Then his mask slips with Josie and he turns on the waterworks to redeem himself. Blatantly playing to a dumb female audience.

Guy has an excuse for everything. But that because he's a GAME PLAYER.

[Enid]

How many times as he mentioned the bullying stuff now? Just in case anybody missed it after the rachael crap. Then his mask slips with Josie and he turns on the waterworks to redeem himself. Blatantly playing to a dumb female audience.

Guy has an excuse for everything. But that because he's a GAME PLAYER.
I'm not dumb, Zippy. I just disagree with you. I like what he did to Rachael. I thought it was hilarious. It was different with Josie because he likes her. I really don't think there were other reasons behind it. Call me naive, but that is what I believe.

[Zippy]

i don't know how some of you can say he loves himself. he clearly doesn't. he constantly hides under a hood and never takes his top off.

LOLzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzz

He's flew half way cross the world to be on a TV SHOW where he is on TV 24/7 and now you think he's hiding under his hood and shy about how he looks?

OMFG you JJ fans really are dumb as a brick! :joker:

He wears a hood because he doesn't have his girly hair products. Simple as!

[cookiemonster]

i didn't say about how he looks. he is just insecure generally. some people can appear confident and arrogant but when you get to know them you find out they are really quite insecure and sensitive. i have a friend a bit like this.

[ButterflyGirl]

Anyone that finds someone being picked on funny has got issues.

[Enid]

Anyone that finds someone being picked on funny has got issues.
I'm guessing that was directed at me? If it was, say so.

Nobody was getting picked on. She's a big girl, I'm sure she could have stood up for herself if she tried.

I really don't understand why people say it's out of order for a man to pick a VERBAL fight with a woman. Women aren't timid, frail little creatures you need to tip toe around. It pisses me off, royally.

[cookiemonster]

^didn't they mean John getting picked on when he was younger?

[Angus]

He gives worse looks than her.

it's so obvious he loves himself a lot more than she loves herself.

vile **** he is

Who will you support next week if and when Govan goes? (BTW I'm not trying to be mean, just interested).

[Zippy]

^didn't they mean John getting picked on when he was younger?

No. She means John constantly trying to provoke a fight with Rachael when she was there. I remember when he first started bitching behind her back he was saying "Ill go, Ill go at her". Its like he was just itching to have a big bust up with her. Even though she'd done sod all to him.

Which makes him a bully. But boohoo he deserves sympathy because some mean girls(tee hee)didnt wanna know him when he was a skinny geeky boy. Well HELLO why the **** would they? Its called reality.

And now he thinks he has free reign to bully any attractive girl who is aware of her allure? What bollocks. Pathetic excuse whichever way you gullible fans of his wanna twist it. He's an angry little man with big issues. End of.

[Alpertinator]

Zippy they're all game players that's why they're in there idiot. Everybody who has ever been a contestant on any Big Brother anywhere in the world has been a game player, simply by being a contestant. In the legendary words of Wayne Campell I say to you "Are you mental?"

Also he's hardly ever mentioned the bullying thing.

[unusualpet]

If you get badly bullied when you're young some people never get over it tbh
He did act badly but I understand why he did it now
I guess I can relate 'cos I have a similar problem - I'm fairly good looking now but I still have all these insecurities from when I went through a prolonged awkward phase..

[Alpertinator]

Yeah me too. See JJ reminds me a fair bit of myself, and watching him I notice how sometimes he struggles to let things slide, he keeps on and on, he's perseverent with arguments. If somebody pisses him off and he feels wronged he can't easily let it slide. Just like me.

Anyway watching him and seeing how much of a bad issue that in particular is, is perhaps helping me to try and improve myself. Cos' I am quite similar to JJ. Now of course JJ needs to try and get good at lettin' things slide himself.

[boomoo]

I can see where he's coming from. If you were bullied pretty bad in your childhood, it's bound to have an affect on you and you tend to hold grudges. I guess Rachael reminded him of the girls that bullied him and that's why he got so angry. It's understandable.

I do not believe he was bullied by girls who looked like Rachael in Australia.

Have you seen pictures of Australian school pupils? They really do dress like the pupils on Neighbours.

No one else in the house disliked Rachael.
As for giving 'Looks', noone does it beeter than JJ. Every time the camera is on him and he is not aware of it he is scowling. Anyone who crosses him will get it, male or female.

[ButterflyGirl]

I'm guessing that was directed at me? If it was, say so.

Nobody was getting picked on. She's a big girl, I'm sure she could have stood up for herself if she tried.

I really don't understand why people say it's out of order for a man to pick a VERBAL fight with a woman. Women aren't timid, frail little creatures you need to tip toe around. It pisses me off, royally.

I wasn't directing anything at you at all , I only read the first post, I meant JJ anyway.

[Claymores]

I wasn't directing anything at you at all , I only read the first post, I meant JJ anyway.

Enid was getting tired by then BG - I think everyone else read your post as relating to the opening post.

[Abluebird]

Tbh I don't even but his insecure bs .....yes you don't get over these things but when was high school for JJ probably 5/6 yrs ago he well should be over it by now


I think it is a dificult one with JJ attitude, his insecurities was brought to attention by shabby to Josie, then Josie asked him direct ( well stating she sussed him out a bit) and he agreed, so its not like JJ gave a sob story.

If your time at school is unhappy for what ever reason, it doesnt really matter how many years ago it was, the unhappness is instilled, and would affect confidence in different ways. IMO JJ is not a bad looking guy, but it does not mean that he thinks this of himself.

I give this senario, JJ in his school time had crushes, and got the ''URGH'' looks from girls, and since he looks out for those sort of signs, it may seem silly, and it may have been harsh on Racheal. going from Racheals VT she did think of herself as a beauti, she didnt have much time for many in the house either, however but it was unfort they way Racheal left as she was not nominated properly..

Time will tell with JJ, his haters will either change their minds, or the likes of me who like him may be proved wrong.

[Alpertinator]

Haha so what you expected Rachael to come in dressed as an Australian school girl? Haha what come on. My point is - the clothes has nothing to do with it moron.

[tuesday1962]

I can’t understand why people insist on defending JJ. At the end of the day he made a judgment call imo which was wrong. Rachael told Ife and Govan that she had been bullied when she was younger and has had confidence issues.

Rachael was booed all the way into the house. A couple of days into the house Rachael had imo she has lost a lot of her confidence even she admitted she felt she had no role in the house. The only person who thought that she was looking down on the other housemates was JJ, the rest of the housemates didn’t feel intimidated by the way she was looking at them. If anything they could see what JJ was getting at.

My issue with JJ is that he actively decided he didn’t want to try to get to know her, he made a concerted effort to go out of his way to make her uncomfortable in the house. By the time he decided he wanted to know the reason she had decided she had had enough. May be if she had survived the eviction then the situation might have resolved itself but we will never know now.

I hope that if JJ comes out he is shown what he was like towards Rachael and I hope it is bloody uncomfortable for him. JJ acted out of malice because he thought she was a ‘mean girl’. Never once did he consider that BB would but a female version of himself. The difference between them both is that Rachael was mature in her attitude and JJ has yet to make that leap. JJ imo should grow and try and get to know someone first before categorising and judging them, especially from a VT tape that is designed to the best chance of getting in to the BB house.

[fuzzylovin]

Hes not insecure because i remember reading that he said if he wanted rachael he could have her in a second.
And i think the bully stuff is a load of crock trying to excuse what he did to rachel and play the feel sorry for me stunt.