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Patrick
26-06-2010, 04:46 PM
I just watched the music video for Alejandro and it got me thinking that Lady GaGa has gotten weirder and weirder with every video.

I think Just Dance, Love Game, The Fame, Eh Eh were the last music videos we saw her being well normal and sexy.

Then Poker Face and Paparazzi came along and while she still looked actually not too bad you could see her outfits started getting weirder and that wasn't a bad thing and her sound didn't change which was good.

Then we got to Bad Romance and thats when things really got weird, her sound changed slightly but it was fantastic but yeah Bad Romance was probably her first music video were she really changed.

And of course Telephone came which was a massive video and thats when everything just changed completely and now I watched Alejandro and I must say I loved that song to bits but that music video is completely horrible.
Its getting a bit tiring now, her sound has changed alot which, her outfits have gotten very bizzare and just random now, the videos do not even make sense, everything has changed about her tbh Music Wise and Looks.


What do you think?

Do you like the old Lady Gaga more than the one we have now?

Take a look at the diffrence:


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xDramatick
26-06-2010, 04:49 PM
I just watched the music video for Alejandro and it got me thinking that Lady GaGa has gotten weirder and weirder with every video.

I think Just Dance, Love Game, The Fame, Eh Eh were the last music videos we saw her being well normal and sexy.

Then Poker Face and Paparazzi came along and while she still looked actually not too bad you could see her outfits started getting weirder and that wasn't a bad thing and her sound didn't change which was good.

Then we got to Bad Romance and thats when things really got weird, her sound changed slightly but it was fantastic but yeah Bad Romance was probably her first music video were she really changed.

Poker Face was her third music video, she's always been a bit odd.
I prefer her weirder personally, Alejandro's one of my favourite GaGa videos.

Twilight
26-06-2010, 04:50 PM
Her old style is wayyy better, imo.

Vicky.
26-06-2010, 04:51 PM
In her earlier videos, she looked amazing.

Pretty much looks like a man in drag now :S

I preferred her older songs too...by far.

Shaun
26-06-2010, 04:56 PM
I'd only say I prefer the old style because it was what it said on the tin - now every video she makes is lapped up by a bunch of ****ing dingbats who think that she's "artistic". Newsflash: she is not.

InOne
26-06-2010, 05:09 PM
She actually looked hot in Just Dance.

Tom4784
26-06-2010, 05:43 PM
Alejandro was self indulgent but I liked Telephone and Paparazzi, what she needs is Balance between the normal music videos and the big long ones since the longer videos will and have started to lost their impact because of her reliance on them.

Stacey.
26-06-2010, 05:44 PM
I liked her first original style in Poker Face etc.

Smithy
26-06-2010, 05:44 PM
Then we got to Bad Romance and thats when things really got weird, her sound changed slightly but it was fantastic but yeah Bad Romance was probably her first music video were she really changed.

And of course Telephone came which was a massive video and thats when everything just changed completely and now I watched Alejandro and I must say I loved that song to bits but that music video is completely horrible.
Its getting a bit tiring now, her sound has changed alot which, her outfits have gotten very bizzare and just random now, the videos do not even make sense, everything has changed about her tbh Music Wise and Looks.

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Bad Romance was the first song off of TFM so thats why she changed, it's like a new sort of era for her.

Telephone was long because it was the sequel to Paparazzi and I think Alejandro was a one off for being a long video, I doubt the next single will have a long video. The video's do make sense but I agree she's changed, but imo for the better.

Ninastar
26-06-2010, 08:24 PM
I like her in just dance and her older style because I think its when she looked best.

Smithy
25-08-2010, 03:26 PM
Wait and see what she's doing now O_O

Jords
25-08-2010, 03:28 PM
^
What? :laugh:

Smithy
25-08-2010, 03:31 PM
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Harry!
25-08-2010, 03:31 PM
Yes she has changed. She is now a copycat phoney who constantly copies other peoples looks, much to deluded teenagers who think she is original and ''artistic''.

Smithy
25-08-2010, 03:32 PM
Clearly, pinhead didn't read the spoiler :rolleyes:

Harry!
25-08-2010, 03:37 PM
Clearly, pinhead didn't read the spoiler :rolleyes:

Exibit A:
http://i.ytimg.com/vi/WRS6nieJzBg/0.jpg

And dressing up as a man is NOT original.

Smithy
25-08-2010, 03:39 PM
Oh, my god Harry

That isn't her just dressing up as a man thats her covering the japanese version of vogue as a man, with the name Jo Calderone, she's created an entire alter ego for herself

http://twitter.com/jocalderone

InOne
25-08-2010, 03:41 PM
Terrible move for GaGa. WTF is she doing? lol

Harry!
25-08-2010, 03:42 PM
Oh, my god Harry

That isn't her just dressing up as a man thats her covering the japanese version of vogue as a man, with the name Jo Calderone, she's created an entire alter ego for herself

http://twitter.com/jocalderone

WOW :rolleyes: she has created 2 outer egos. Its like a convay-about at a airport.

Smithy
25-08-2010, 03:49 PM
Terrible move for GaGa. WTF is she doing? lol
I have no idea :|
I think she may be performing at the VMA's like that :/
WOW :rolleyes: she has created 2 outer egos. Its like a convay-about at a airport.

What do you mean 2?
And they're called conveyor belts

InOne
25-08-2010, 03:55 PM
I have no idea :|
I think she may be performing at the VMA's like that :/


What do you mean 2?
And they're called conveyor belts

I mean there is one thing dressing up like a man, but she looks like a man :/

She has lost any sex appeal she had. Silly GaGa :nono:

Shaun
25-08-2010, 03:57 PM
Interesting move, I imagine she's attributed it to Bowie/Grace Jone's androgyny.

Harry!
25-08-2010, 03:59 PM
I have no idea :|
I think she may be performing at the VMA's like that :/


What do you mean 2?
And they're called conveyor belts

Lady Gaga being one of them.

And she is fast turning into a mockery of herself. She needs to stop with the gimicky outfits and the blatent copying of other peoples music videos. A complete new direction or ''Reinvention'' as Lady Gaga calles it.

What new visually has Lady Gaga brought to the table since being on the scene persides her music, Not alot. And I am fed up of teens saying she is original when she has brought nothing that has been done before.

Less of the style and more about the substance. And she is NOT NOT NOT The Queen Of Pop being on the scene for only a few years. She needs to have many more albums before you can call her that.

Shaun
25-08-2010, 04:01 PM
PLUS she looks kinda like a young Bob Dylan in those pics:

http://theurbanian.com/wp-content/uploads/2009/08/bob_dylan.jpg

Smithy
25-08-2010, 04:02 PM
Lady Gaga being one of them.

And she is fast turning into a mockery of herself. She needs to stop with the gimicky outfits and the blatent copying of other peoples music videos. A complete new direction or ''Reinvention'' as Lady Gaga calles it.

What new visually has Lady Gaga brought to the table since being on the scene persides her music, Not alot. And I am fed up of teens saying she is original when she has brought nothing that has been done before.

Less of the style and more about the substance. And she is NOT NOT NOT The Queen Of Pop being on the scene for only a few years. She needs to have many more albums before you can call her that.

She is actually Lady GaGa though that isnt a persona, it's her being herself

The biggest misconception about me is I’m a character or a persona. That when the lights and cameras turn off, I turn into a pumpkin. It’s simply not true. I make music and art and design all day long. Yes, I wash my face and go to sleep but when I wake up, I am always Lady Gaga.

By blatent copying of other peoples videos I imagine you mean the slight similarities between Alejandro and something madonna made (:sleep: play a new record)

And she wore a telephone on her head, I don't think anyone's done that before :)

Stacey.
25-08-2010, 04:07 PM
I thought she was a man in them next photos :shocked:

Smithy
25-08-2010, 04:09 PM
PLUS she looks kinda like a young Bob Dylan in those pics:

http://theurbanian.com/wp-content/uploads/2009/08/bob_dylan.jpg

:O
She does

I think that's her real hair too :/

M X
25-08-2010, 04:09 PM
I don't have a favourite, I'll love her to death no matter what.

Harry!
25-08-2010, 04:10 PM
She is actually Lady GaGa though that isnt a persona, it's her being herself



By blatent copying of other peoples videos I imagine you mean the slight similarities between Alejandro and something madonna made (:sleep: play a new record)

And she wore a telephone on her head, I don't think anyone's done that before :)

I dont believe one second that babble in the quote. And it isnt just Alejandro music video it is others that she has made also. Though nowadays I am less of Lady Gaga copies Madonna *Finds 10s of examples* but teens like you really do need to do some research and not belive the babble that Lady Gaga is.

And having a telephone on your head is hardly anything special :sleep:.

Smithy
25-08-2010, 04:12 PM
I dont believe one second that babble in the quote. And it isnt just Alejandro music video it is others that she has made also. Though nowadays I am less of Lady Gaga copies Madonna *Finds 10s of examples* but teens like you really do need to do some research and not belive the babble that Lady Gaga is.

And having a telephone on your head is hardly anything special :sleep:.
You don't have to, no one cares if you do, but it's the truth.

And please don't try and Patronize me we both know Madonna leached off Marylin Monroe, anyway, I don't see why you even had to bring this whole debate up, just answer the question and leave, your getting tedious.

MeMyselfAndI
25-08-2010, 04:13 PM
Old Gaga :D
Alejandro video put me off her :(

Harry!
25-08-2010, 04:19 PM
You don't have to, no one cares if you do, but it's the truth.

And please don't try and Patronize me we both know Madonna leached off Marylin Monroe, anyway, I don't see why you even had to bring this whole debate up, just answer the question and leave, your getting tedious.

Lady Gaga fans are tedious particly young teeens who dont do there homework.

Madonna will always be better then Gaga anyway.

Stacey.
25-08-2010, 04:22 PM
Harry stop being annoying :nono:

Harry!
25-08-2010, 04:26 PM
Harry stop being annoying :nono:

I speak for all the Madonna fans who are fed up of this.

Jords
25-08-2010, 04:27 PM
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:shocked:

Why??? She can pull off looking like a man very well!

Smithy
25-08-2010, 04:28 PM
Lady Gaga fans are tedious particly young teeens who dont do there homework.

Madonna will always be better then Gaga anyway.
There is no homework to do it's all opinion

Ok, in what sense will Madonna be better than GaGa?

GaGa is an amazing song writer, writes all her own songs
She has the better vocals
She has directorial input into every video she makes

The only thing you have is that she's had more number 1's and sold more records, well yes, she's been around 15 times longer

So therefore imo, GaGa > Mandonna

Smithy
25-08-2010, 04:29 PM
:shocked:

Why??? She can pull off looking like a man very well!

It may (hoping not) be something she's going to bring into the public domain, I think it's to do with equality and stuff, I'm not entirely sure yet :/

M X
25-08-2010, 04:29 PM
I dont believe one second that babble in the quote. And it isnt just Alejandro music video it is others that she has made also. Though nowadays I am less of Lady Gaga copies Madonna *Finds 10s of examples* but teens like you really do need to do some research and not belive the babble that Lady Gaga is.

And having a telephone on your head is hardly anything special :sleep:.

Stop saying 'teens like you'. Lady Gaga has fans of all ages.
and to be honest, i don't have anything against Madonna, but showing your unkept vagina in a sleezy book for money and publicity isn't anything special.
and fyi, that telephone hat was created by Philip Tracey, one of the most respected designers of all time, and i'm sure has worked with Madonna before.

Jase.
25-08-2010, 04:31 PM
The ignorance of some people in this thread is actually making me laugh out loud. Wow.

Braden
25-08-2010, 04:31 PM
Older, I think she's losing a big spark. Imo reently she's trying to copy Madonna and Grace Jones with her weirdness. But when she was her old self , it was much more individual.

Harry!
25-08-2010, 04:38 PM
There is no homework to do it's all opinion

Ok, in what sense will Madonna be better than GaGa?

GaGa is an amazing song writer, writes all her own songs
She has the better vocals
She has directorial input into every video she makes

The only thing you have is that she's had more number 1's and sold more records, well yes, she's been around 15 times longer

So therefore imo, GaGa > Mandonna

I think the fact that she has been in the industry for 30 years and still going strong is more then enough an explanation.

And a entry in the Guiness Book Of Records 2011 astge Top-Selling Female Recording Artist justifys my point further.

Stop saying 'teens like you'. Lady Gaga has fans of all ages.
and to be honest, i don't have anything against Madonna, but showing your unkept vagina in a sleezy book for money and publicity isn't anything special.
and fyi, that telephone hat was created by Philip Tracey, one of the most respected designers of all time, and i'm sure has worked with Madonna before.

At the time of the Sex book it was still tabbo to pose nude like that. If Lady Gaga was to do a book like that many wouldnt blink an eye to be honest. Becasue of Madonna more people are expressing themselves scuse the pun.

A telephone on a hat doesnt ring as many bells as inative as Madonna's work.

Smithy
25-08-2010, 04:51 PM
I think the fact that she has been in the industry for 30 years and still going strong is more then enough an explanation.

And a entry in the Guiness Book Of Records 2011 astge Top-Selling Female Recording Artist justifys my point further.



See thats all you ever answer with, the length she's been in the business, nothing about her skills, vocal ability or talents, oh wait....

Jase.
25-08-2010, 05:15 PM
Harry, quit being an ignorant child. All GaGa fans are "teenagers"? If you're going to be ignorant, come out with something which at least sounds believable.

The fact remains she's the biggest pop star on the planet right now. She's pushing boundaries with her music and fashion. As Mika said, she has given every female pop star who is currently relevant an identity crisis.

I just find it so embarrassing how fans of one major artist can appreciate what another artist is doing. So...embarrassing.

Scarlett.
25-08-2010, 07:19 PM
Old Gaga, the Alehandrawn video was a long drawn out nonsensical pile of self indulgent trash

Saying that, I like her new music more than her old (bar Poker Face, Paparazzi and Just Dance)

Tom
28-08-2010, 04:38 PM
I think this is her best song (well one shes featured on, its not actually hers). Shes really normal in it and suits that style IMO.

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She just looks like a bad drag queen now

M X
29-08-2010, 11:42 AM
At the time of the Sex book it was still tabbo to pose nude like that. If Lady Gaga was to do a book like that many wouldnt blink an eye to be honest. Becasue of Madonna more people are expressing themselves scuse the pun.

A telephone on a hat doesnt ring as many bells as inative as Madonna's work.

Erm, no. At the time of the 'Sex' book, Playboy had been around for many years. And also, Madonna has admitted that she has no idea why she did that book and that when she looks back on it, it isn't artistic.

And to be honest, the spoiler in your sig is pathetic. To say that Lady Gaga is untalented is complete ignorance. Even if I wasn't a fan you have to be able to admit she is talented. You can't accuse her of being a Madonna wannabe. She's said before - 'I'm not going to be the second Madonna, I'm going to be the first Lady Gaga.'

Madonna is talented, no doubt. But maybe your upset because as Madonna's star is beginning to fade, Lady Gaga's is on the rise?

BB_Eye
29-08-2010, 01:04 PM
I just wish her dull and ordinary music was half as 'crazy' as her outfits.

Sophii3x
29-08-2010, 04:26 PM
I REALLY miss the early Gaga (late 08/early 09). Her style was far better, she looked great and acted normal.. fame clearly changed her. She's acts and dresses ridiculous now, attention *****.

Smithy
29-08-2010, 04:51 PM
Madonna is talented, no doubt. But maybe your upset because as Madonna's star is beginning to fade, Lady Gaga's is on the rise?

Obviously :P

Harry!
29-08-2010, 05:06 PM
Erm, no. At the time of the 'Sex' book, Playboy had been around for many years. And also, Madonna has admitted that she has no idea why she did that book and that when she looks back on it, it isn't artistic.

And to be honest, the spoiler in your sig is pathetic. To say that Lady Gaga is untalented is complete ignorance. Even if I wasn't a fan you have to be able to admit she is talented. You can't accuse her of being a Madonna wannabe. She's said before - 'I'm not going to be the second Madonna, I'm going to be the first Lady Gaga.'

Madonna is talented, no doubt. But maybe your upset because as Madonna's star is beginning to fade, Lady Gaga's is on the rise?

The sex book is 'art' but at its most vulger form.

MY picture in my sig is there because of Smithy and a row we had a few days back. It was the only picture I could find on google which as a ''comeback'' to picture gate. Not what I personally think of her.

I admit and have said this countless times Lady Gaga IS talented - does se use her 'talent' well is the question.

You said ''Madonna's star is beginning to fade'' which is completely incorrect, The only reason why she is not in the papers as much this year is because she is directing her latest film which fills most of her time up and has little time for recording new music. She will at some point over the next year or so release another album and possibly go back on tour again once she has finished her film.

How long is Lady Gaga's star going to shine is the question you need to ask.

Smithy
29-08-2010, 05:08 PM
I admit and have said this countless times Lady Gaga IS talented - does she use her 'talent' well is the question.


Yes she writes music everyday, is currently touring the US singing live near enough every night and is trained in classical piano (which she plays on the tour)

Harry!
29-08-2010, 05:13 PM
Yes she writes music everyday, is currently touring the US singing live near enough every night and is trained in classical piano (which she plays on the tour)

Musically yes and I cant fault her for that. Imagery not as much.

Smithy
29-08-2010, 05:14 PM
Well you cant see her on the radio harry

Harry!
29-08-2010, 05:16 PM
Well you cant see her on the radio harry

Thank god for that. Saying that I dont listen to the radio and have to have it off when I am in a car because it annoys me. :laugh:

iRyan
29-08-2010, 05:23 PM
I miss the old Gaga from the Just Dance/Poker Face/Love Game era. She actually looked hot and she had this young, fresh, energetic appeal. Now she looks like a 40 year old wacky fashion designer.

Smithy
13-09-2010, 12:16 PM
She's back :D

http://gagadaily.com/wp-content/uploads/2010/09/Photo-026.jpg

http://gagadaily.com/wp-content/uploads/2010/09/Photo-066.jpg

Last time i'll bump I promise :L

Mac Hiavellian
13-09-2010, 12:22 PM
I didn't mind her when she started out but now she's everywhere, her songs are too samey atm and she has just got a lot stranger. Take her back!

Barbie
13-09-2010, 12:31 PM
She does some good music,

The just dance era of looking hot was quite typical pop, i think she needed that to get her foot in the door, if she'd walked into the spotlight wearing a meat dress she would have been shot down in seconds. Once she had a few hits, she toned up the weird and made a name for herself.

I prefered the pokerface, Bad Romance and Telephone videos, then Alejandro came along and was just plain weird, but dull i thought

Jordan.
13-09-2010, 12:43 PM
Rofl, that meat dress makes me sick a little in my mouth. Imagine the smell of it by the end of the night. D:

30stone
13-09-2010, 12:54 PM
Bad Romance / Poker Face.

Smithy
13-09-2010, 01:14 PM
Rofl, that meat dress makes me sick a little in my mouth. Imagine the smell of it by the end of the night. D:

I don't think it's real meat :conf2:

setanta
13-09-2010, 01:28 PM
I loved that article in the Times about her. She's vacuous and highly aware of how to sell herself to a culture bereft of any real heart now. A product of our times unfortunately.

Smithy
13-09-2010, 01:30 PM
:laugh:

I read that too, the journalist clearly hadn't done her research

Jordan.
13-09-2010, 01:54 PM
I don't think it's real meat :conf2:

I hope not but i wouldnt doubt it tbh. :laugh:

Zippy
13-09-2010, 06:59 PM
Im not keen on the Alejandro video. Just doesnt seem all that original or memorable.

Then again, Im not mad about the song so...

Omen
13-09-2010, 07:05 PM
Im not keen on the Alejandro video. Just doesnt seem all that original or memorable.

Then again, Im not mad about the song so...

Total shyte

Omen
13-09-2010, 07:10 PM
Social critic and author Camille Paglia has gone to town on ubiquitous pop chameleon Lady Gaga and her “little monsters” in Britain’s Sunday Times.
Venting her spleen under the heading Lady Gaga and the death of sex, Paglia lets rip with an epic takedown of the singer.
Best bits from Paglia’s diatribe:
On Gaga’s fans
“Generation Gaga doesn’t identify with powerful vocal styles because their own voices have atrophied: they communicate mutely via a constant stream of atomised, telegraphic text messages. Gaga’s flat affect doesn’t bother them because they’re not attuned to facial expressions.”
On Gaga ’stealing’ from Madonna
“Gaga has borrowed so heavily from Madonna (as in her latest video-Alejandro) that it must be asked, at what point does homage become theft? However, the main point is that the young Madonna was on fire. She was indeed the imperious Marlene Dietrich’s true heir. For Gaga, sex is mainly decor and surface; she’s like a laminated piece of ersatz rococo furniture. Alarmingly, Generation Gaga can’t tell the difference. Is it the death of sex? Perhaps the symbolic status that sex had for a century has gone kaput; that blazing trajectory is over…”
On her background
“Although she presents herself as the clarion voice of all the freaks and misfits of life, there is little evidence that she ever was one. Her upbringing was comfortable and eventually affluent, and she attended the same upscale Manhattan private school as Paris and Nicky Hilton.”
On her message
“She constantly touts her symbiotic bond with her fans, the ‘little monsters’, who she inspires to ‘love themselves’ as if they are damaged goods in need of her therapeutic repair. ‘You’re a superstar, no matter who you are!’ She earnestly tells them from the stage, while their cash ends up in her pockets. She told a magazine with messianic fervour: ‘I love my fans more than any artist who has ever lived.’ She claims to have changed the lives of the disabled, thrilled by her jewelled parody crutches in the Paparazzi video.”
On Gaga’s sexuality
“Despite showing acres of pallid flesh in the fetish-bondage garb of urban prostitution, Gaga isn’t sexy at all – she’s like a gangly marionette or plasticised android. How could a figure so calculated and artificial, so clinical and strangely antiseptic, so stripped of genuine eroticism have become the icon of her generation? Can it be that Gaga represents the exhausted end of the sexual revolution? In Gaga’s manic miming of persona after persona, over-conceptualised and claustrophobic, we may have reached the limit of an era.”

Zippy
13-09-2010, 11:01 PM
At the end of the day it comes down to the music. The imagery alone will not sustain her. So far she's made brilliant pop songs that are modern, catchy and memorable. Some of the biggest selling songs in the world over the past few years.

I guess the big danger is that she will allow the imagery to take priority over the quality of the music. Or become too self indulgent and disappear up her own ass...like Bjork did.

However, I still see her being around for some time. She's actually very commercial.

headaball
14-09-2010, 12:11 AM
Fake nutcase.