Genius songwriters.

[CaraRawr]

Who are your favourites?

I think that Patrick Stump from Fall Out Boy is a brilliant songwriter, if you listen to any of their albums you can see why I say that.

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[Vladimir]

Brandon Flowers (the frontman of The Killers).

[Shaun]

I think you can guess the list of names I'd throw out :tongue:

Paul McCartney, John Lennon, David Bowie, Noel Gallagher, Kate Bush, Roger Waters (Pink Floyd), Michael Jackson, Bob Dylan, Elton John, Mick Jagger/Keith Richards, Joe Strummer (The Clash), Ray Davies (The Kinks), Neil Tenant/Chris Lowe (Pet Shop Boys).

Still writing....Brandon Flowers, Chris Martin, Gary Barlow, Robbie Williams.

[setanta]

Nick Drake, Leonard Cohen

[InOne]

Morrissey.

[BB_Eye]

Brian Wilson
Lennon/McCartney
John Cale
Nick Drake
Jarvis Cocker

[BB_Eye]

Oh yeah, can't forget Morrissey. :tongue:

Plus, Iggy Pop, Brian Eno and Frank Zappa

[InOne]

Richard Ashcroft

[MeMyselfAndI]

Leona Lewis :)

[lol]

The Rev.
Without a ****ing doubt.

This song is crazy, but a masterpiece with godly lyrics. If you don't think this is a good song, I feel sorry for you. :L

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RIP Rev, foREVer.

[Shaun]

Leona Lewis :)

she doesn't write. she can't with those ****ing hooves.

[CaraRawr]

The Rev.
Without a ****ing doubt.

This song is crazy, but a masterpiece with godly lyrics. If you don't think this is a good song, I feel sorry for you. :L

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RIP Rev, foREVer.


amazing.

[Harry!]

Madonna has written alot of tracks.

[Twilight]

Oh please, get the **** out isn't a insult.

[GiRTh]

Kurt Kobain, Bob Marley, Cole Porter, George Gershwin, Stevie Wonder, Nick Cave

[BB_Eye]

Kurt Kobain, Bob Marley, Cole Porter, George Gershwin, Stevie Wonder, Nick Cave

Gershwin was more of a composer than a songwriter. I suppose he did write some musicals though... sort of like Bernstein.

[BB_Eye]

Some more...

Tom Waits
Mark E. Smith
Thurston Moore
Quincey Jones
Phil Spector

[GiRTh]

I was thinking of Bernstein and Rodgers and Hammerstein. I included Gershwin just for Summertime from Porgy and Bess

[GiRTh]

Cant believe no one mentioned Neil Young and Bruce Springsteen.

[BB_Eye]

Cant believe no one mentioned Neil Young and Bruce Springsteen.

I listened to Springsteen non-stop a few years back, but have grown cold towards him more recently. His style of music is too earnest and bombastic for my liking.

Neil Young I really respect and you can really tell the influence he had on the likes of Mercury Rev and the Flaming Lips, but I simply haven't heard enough of his stuff.

[GiRTh]

I listened to Springsteen non-stop a few years back, but have grown cold towards him more recently. His style of music is too earnest and bombastic for my liking.

Neil Young I really respect and you can really tell the influence he had on the likes of Mercury Rev and the Flaming Lips, but I simply haven't heard enough of his stuff.I see your point. Springsteens rock and roll songs can be a bit much but I'd hardly call Nebraska bombastic.

Of all the people mentioned in this thread I think Neil Young should have been one of the first. Frankly I think its a joke that anyone would cal Robbie Williams or Leona Lewis a 'genius' songwriter. Neil Young has been writing songs since the 60's and can still show these young 'uns how its done.

[Stacey.]

Lady GaGa and Taylor Swift.

[BB_Eye]

I see your point. Springsteens rock and roll songs can be a bit much but I'd hardly call Nebraska bombastic.

Perhaps not, but it has a certain rugged seriousness to it which is not for everyone, me included.

Of all the people mentioned in this thread I think Neil Young should have been one of the first. Frankly I think its a joke that anyone would cal Robbie Williams or Leona Lewis a 'genius' songwriter. Neil Young has been writing songs since the 60's and can still show these young 'uns how its done.

I'm sure accusations of musical snobbery will come rolling in if I said Robbie Williams is a mediocre songwriter (which he is) so I'll just say each to their own, but I think people have to be careful about using the word 'genius' too lightly. He owes most of his biggest chart successes to Guy Chambers and even those songs left a lot to be desired. In fact, songs like "Rudebox" could make Williams a candidate for one of the all time worst songwriters.

[Smithy]

MJ
GaGa
Lily Allen (Probably not a 'genius' as such but still a talented writer)

[Boothy]

Morrissey.

Beat me to it.

[InOne]

Sorry Smithy, but GaGa isn't a genius songwriter.

[Deirdre]

Who are your favourites?

I think that Patrick Stump from Fall Out Boy is a brilliant songwriter, if you listen to any of their albums you can see why I say that.

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Pete Wentz writes the majority of FOB songs :)
Those that haven't been mentioned, Alex Turner, Kanye West, Drake, Eminem (his older stuff), Amy Winehouse.

[CaraRawr]

Pete Wentz writes the majority of FOB songs :)
Those that haven't been mentioned, Alex Turner, Kanye West, Drake, Eminem (his older stuff), Amy Winehouse.

seriously? i always thought it was a joint effort but patrick wrote more. wow.

[lol]

And Eminem is a great songwriter in my opinion, I love his lyrics, especially in the song "Lose Yourself".

[Smithy]

Sorry Smithy, but GaGa isn't a genius songwriter.

but Leona Lewis is D:

Anyway, if you look at it as her only just starting out in her career writing all her own music similar to the way the Beatles did, she has so much room to improve, and just get better and better.

[Iceman]

but Leona Lewis is D:

Anyway, if you look at it as her only just starting out in her career writing all her own music similar to the way the Beatles did, she has so much room to improve, and just get better and better.

A comparison between GaGa and The Beatles..........?????? moving on........

Eminems earlier stuff was gold.
Jim Morrison


and most of whats been said already

[InOne]

but Leona Lewis is D:

Anyway, if you look at it as her only just starting out in her career writing all her own music similar to the way the Beatles did, she has so much room to improve, and just get better and better.

She is no genius. Accept it.

[Smithy]

A comparison between GaGa and The Beatles..........?????? moving on........

Eminems earlier stuff was gold.
Jim Morrison


and most of whats been said already

Early GaGa and early Beatles, they wrote songs about holding hands and kissing, she's doing the same, sort of :p

[Shaun]

Smithy. Shut the **** up.

[Ramsay]

Lennon
Mccartney
Harrison

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[GiRTh]

Diane Warren, Curtis Mayfield, Hal David, Otis Redding and Steve Cropper, Elton John, Lord Webber, Ashford and Simpson, Bobby Womack, Paul Simon, Diana Krall, Van Morrison, Queen, Billy Joe, Elvis Costello, Trent Reznor, Berry Gordy, Lionel Richie, Thom yorke and Johny Greenwood, Prince, Bono and The Edge, Chuck D, sly Stone, George Clinton, Jimi Hendrix, James Taylor, Jackson Browne

[LemonJam]

Stevie Wonder, Michael Jackson, Robert Smith, Billy Corgan >

[LemonJam]

Pete Wentz writes the majority of FOB songs :)


Pete only writes the lyrics, Patrick does the instrumentation.

[GiRTh]

Burt Bacarach

[Smithy]

Smithy. Shut the **** up.

Are you in Germany yet?

[BB_Eye]

Diane Warren, Curtis Mayfield, Hal David, Otis Redding and Steve Cropper, Elton John, Lord Webber, Ashford and Simpson, Bobby Womack, Paul Simon, Diana Krall, Van Morrison, Queen, Billy Joe, Elvis Costello, Trent Reznor, Berry Gordy, Lionel Richie, Thom yorke and Johny Greenwood, Prince, Bono and The Edge, Chuck D, sly Stone, George Clinton, Jimi Hendrix, James Taylor, Jackson Browne

Some great choices in there, particularly Otis Reddng, George Clinton, Sly Stone, Diana Krall, Thom Yorke and Johnny Greenwood.

Some good female songwriters off the top of my head (everyone I mentioned previously was male)...

Kim Gordon
Kate Bush
PJ Harvey
Bjork
Liz Phair

[setanta]

Kurt Kobain, Bob Marley, Cole Porter, George Gershwin, Stevie Wonder, Nick Cave

Nick Cave is very special. Great lyricist.

[setanta]

Oh, and Joni Mitchell.

[GiRTh]

Suzanne Vega

[GiRTh]

Steven Sondheim

[InOne]

People might slay me, bit I'm gonna say Alex Turner. The AM appealed to a generation, and you can't knock that.

[GiRTh]

People might slay me, bit I'm gonna say Alex Turner. The AM appealed to a generation, and you can't knock that.No slating from me. He's one of the best songwriters of this generation and he's got that lyrical genius thing going.

[InOne]

No slating from me. He's one of the best songwriters of this generation and he's got that lyrical genius thing going.

Definitely. That first album, he just totally tapped in to what everyone was on about.

[MrGaryy]

Gary Barlow, Linda Perry, Michael Jackson, Guy Chambers, John Lennon, Kurt Cobain, Brandon Flowers, Gary Lightbody, Courtney Love, Amy Winehouse, Paul McCartney, Billy Corgan, Joni Mitchell.

[King Gizzard]

Ray Davies

[InOne]

Gary Barlow, Linda Perry, Michael Jackson, Guy Chambers, John Lennon, Kurt Cobain, Brandon Flowers, Gary Lightbody, Courtney Love, Amy Winehouse, Paul McCartney, Billy Corgan, Joni Mitchell.

Winehouse?

[MrGaryy]

yeah man, Winehouse is epic.

[GiRTh]

yeah man, Winehouse is epic.Winehouse has got potential. Her lyrics are so bitter they're amazing. If she hadnt ****ed herself up she'd be huge.

[InOne]

This thread proves genius is subjective.

[GiRTh]

This thread proves genius is subjective.True. I'm amazed some guys are posting songwriters already mentioned,.

[MrGaryy]

Winehouse has got potential. Her lyrics are so bitter they're amazing. If she hadnt ****ed herself up she'd be huge.

she'll be back though. to varying degrees of success but the quality will still be there, you can't lose what she has. on the plus side of her troubled times, at least she has lots to write about again. her lyrics are iconic, yet totally relateable.

[GiRTh]

she'll be back though. to varying degrees of success but the quality will still be there, you can't lose what she has. on the plus side of her troubled times, at least she has lots to write about again. her lyrics are iconic, yet totally relateable.I think she needs to come back without Mark Ronson. His production may have been one of the best things about Black in Black but I'm not keen on his retro approach.

[James]

Waters/Gilmour/Wright when they wrote together. Syd Barrett.

[InOne]

I'd also say Eminem

[Firewire]

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[InOne]

Twilight Twitty
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[Princess]

Argee with Shaun's(besides Robbie) and Gary's lists.

Besides them-Cathy Dennis,John Shanks,Mark Owen,Take That(as a whole),Diane Warren and Billy Mann.

[Stu]

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[MrGaryy]

Argee with Shaun's(besides Robbie) and Gary's lists.

Besides them-Cathy Dennis,John Shanks,Mark Owen,Take That(as a whole),Diane Warren and Billy Mann.
argh can't believe I forgot Cathy Dennis!

I'd also add Nerina Pallot to my list too.

[Shaun]

Nerina Pallot

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...wut!?

[MrGaryy]

http://blogs.targetx.com/snhu/ChrisDupuy/Tumbleweed.jpg

...wut!?

Her foray into writing for other artists is proving to be very good. Perhaps more of a prediction on my part.

[Princess]

The song she wrote for Diana Vickers is my fav on the whole album.

[GiRTh]

Nerino Pallot caught my eye too but I didnt want to say anything - each to their own, and all that.

[MeMyselfAndI]

She is no genius. Accept it.

yes lady gaga is.
she has written tones of amazing songs that have got #1 in less than a year. and she has write songs for britney spears and stuff.
she is a really good songwriter

it goes
#1 Leona Lewis
#2 Taylor Swift
#3 Lady Gaga
at song writting

[Shaun]

can you please just not post in the music section, since you know so very little about it?

[MrGaryy]

yes lady gaga is.
she has written tones of amazing songs that have got #1 in less than a year. and she has write songs for britney spears and stuff.
she is a really good songwriter

it goes
#1 Leona Lewis
#2 Taylor Swift
#3 Lady Gaga
at song writting

DEAD @ this bitch.

[Iceman]

hang on has leona lewis written a song yet?

[MeMyselfAndI]

hang on has leona lewis written a song yet?

she write My Hands
and she has co wrote 7 songs

[GiRTh]

hang on has leona lewis written a song yet?We dont bother gettng bogged down with little details like that.:spin:

[Iceman]

she write My Hands
and she has co wrote 7 songs

wow 1 song actually written??

and a whole 7 co written......

[GiRTh]

she write My Hands
and she has co wrote 7 songs
LMAO. So that's enough is it ? I thought you were going to say she'd been writing since she was a kid like Elton John, Gary Barlow or Diana Krall.

[BB_Eye]

wow 1 song actually written??

and a whole 7 co written......

Bob Dylan should start getting worried.

[Iceman]

Bob Dylan should start getting worried.

I know its crazy i mean 7 songs co written....id be bricking it....

[InOne]

yes lady gaga is.
she has written tones of amazing songs that have got #1 in less than a year. and she has write songs for britney spears and stuff.
she is a really good songwriter

it goes
#1 Leona Lewis
#2 Taylor Swift
#3 Lady Gaga
at song writting

Just because someone is popular does not make the a genius dear.

[Iceman]

Just because someone is popular does not make the a genius dear.

she wont even attempt to listen.....its like floggin a dead horse ;)

[Shaun]

she wont even attempt to listen.....its like floggin a dead horse ;)

isn't that what Simon Cowell was doing producing "Echo"?