caoimhe's football shirt !!!!!!

[LiquidGold]

why did everyone have red but she had green???? :conf: isnt she an england supporter? i know she's irish but i dont get it cause everyone had red english shirts on but she had green

[supergirthuk]

Dave's shirt was red but it had the Wales badge on it.

[Locke.]

And she didn't sing the national anthem because she was Irish aswell, but Dave still sang it even though he is Welsh. They should have just locked the useless bitch in the house.

[Zippy]

Well she shouldnt be singing somebody elses anthem anyway.

I wouldn't!

[supergirthuk]

Its not her anthem. A few of the England players dont sing the national anthem should we lock them up or throw them in the stocks? Oh hang on I may be on to something there. :)

[InOne]

It would be like a Spanish person singing our anthem.

[LiquidGold]

It would be like a Spanish person singing our anthem.

yeah never mind about that / they all had red shirts except for her! and she's not the only non english person what about david & john yet they still had red shirts haha

[supergirthuk]

I know lichtenstein has the same music for their anthem as england but do they sing the same words as we do?

[Locke.]

She was playing for England, should have sang the anthem.

[billy123]

I know lichtenstein has the same music for their anthem as england but do they sing the same words as we do?
well i never knew that thanks very interesting no idea about the words though.
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edit: the words are different they translate as this.
ENGLISH TRANSLATION

High above the young Rhine
Lies Liechtenstein, resting
On Alpine heights.
This beloved homeland,
This dear fatherland
Was chosen for us by
God's wise hand.
This beloved homeland,
This dear fatherland
Was chosen for us by
God's wise hand.

Long live Liechtenstein,
Blossoming on the young Rhine,
Happy and faithful!
Long live the Prince of the Land,
Long live our fatherland,
United by brotherly bonds and free.
Long live the Prince of the Land,
Long live our fatherland,
United by brotherly bonds and free

[supergirthuk]

yeah never mind about that / they all had red shirts except for her! and she's not the only non english person what about david & john yet they still had red shirts haha

Dave's shirt was an england shirt but it had a wales badge on it to represent his nationality. Dont you think BB could have afforded proper shirts for them. what a bunch of money grabbers they are. Shame on you BB.

[supergirthuk]

She was playing for England, should have sang the anthem.

Why, it didnt help the England team. I dont think Ashley cole sings the anthem either and over the four games he was one of the better players that turned up. Whereas John Terry sung his heart out and was at fault for all four of the German goals in my opinion (Totally out of position for all four goals and little or no attempt to get back into position). (He was probably collecting german wag's phone numbers at the time.)

[James]

Umm, deleted a few posts there.

[InOne]

Umm, deleted a few posts there.

Me telling the truth as usual.

[James]

England need a new anthem, I think. GSTQ is meant to be the UK national anthem.

[supergirthuk]

well i never knew that thanks very interesting no idea about the words though.
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edit: the words are different they translate as this.
ENGLISH TRANSLATION

High above the young Rhine
Lies Liechtenstein, resting
On Alpine heights.
This beloved homeland,
This dear fatherland
Was chosen for us by
God's wise hand.
This beloved homeland,
This dear fatherland
Was chosen for us by
God's wise hand.

Long live Liechtenstein,
Blossoming on the young Rhine,
Happy and faithful!
Long live the Prince of the Land,
Long live our fatherland,
United by brotherly bonds and free.
Long live the Prince of the Land,
Long live our fatherland,
United by brotherly bonds and free

Thanks for the info. You can have a gold star for that. Are you trying to fit the translation into the music? I gave up. :blush:

[supergirthuk]

Umm, deleted a few posts there.

Please tell me they where replies to the John Terry criticism?

[billy123]

Thanks for the info. You can have a gold star for that. Are you trying to fit the translation into the music? I gave up. :blush:
haha yes i gave it a go and it sounded bad in my head i wont be trying it out loud.

[supergirthuk]

England need a new anthem, I think. GSTQ is meant to be the UK national anthem.

This often gets thrown up, about as often as we get beat by the germans (so quite regularly then), and the usual one heading the alternative anthem charts is usually Jerusalem. Im not struck on that myself. Any suggestions apart from "Always look on the bright side of life"?

[supergirthuk]

haha yes i gave it a go and it sounded bad in my head i wont be trying it out loud.

We couldnt use their words with that line "United by brotherly bonds and free" cos we just arent.

[Frank E]

why did everyone have red but she had green???? :conf: isnt she an england supporter? i know she's irish but i dont get it cause everyone had red english shirts on but she had green

She's from somewhere where the footbal team reprresents an actual country.

[supergirthuk]

She's from somewhere where the footbal team reprresents an actual country.

?

[Zippy]

yeah never mind about that / they all had red shirts except for her! and she's not the only non english person what about david & john yet they still had red shirts haha

Well if they sang GSTQ then it is Davids national anthem...he's British after all.

And JJ the closet case has English parents and UK passport so Im sure it wasnt a stretch. Especially as he seems to think he's Beckham.

I don't want foreigners singing our anthem anyways. Its wrong.

[Angus]

Its not her anthem. A few of the England players dont sing the national anthem should we lock them up or throw them in the stocks? Oh hang on I may be on to something there. :)

Sounds like the ideal punishment for the lot of them after that disgraceful display yesterday.

[InOne]

Sounds like the ideal punishment for the lot of them after that disgraceful display yesterday.

The HM's could not give a **** about football, you can tell that.

[billy123]

The HM's could not give a **** about football, you can tell that.
steve,dave and nathan did that much was obvious via the live feed.

[InOne]

steve,dave and nathan did that much was obvious via the live feed.

So they say. But in the real world...

[tmx]

How many of the housemates would be able to name the Irish national anthem, let alone sing it?

Probably none.

So why the heck is Caoimhe expected to know the BRITISH* national anthem?

* hence why Dave and John both know it (or should have done)

[starry]

She looked like she was trying not to scowl when the anthem was played. :D

[starry]

steve,dave and nathan did that much was obvious via the live feed.

Sunshine and Mario watched all the game as well, and apparently do watch football games on TV on the outside.

[stoney]

why did they use the British national anthem for the English national anthem:conf:

[fruit_cake]

How many of the housemates would be able to name the Irish national anthem, let alone sing it?

Probably none.

So why the heck is Caoimhe expected to know the BRITISH* national anthem?

* hence why Dave and John both know it (or should have done)

Caoihme's quite happy to soak up the fame on British big brother.. if she doesn't like it then she should have gone on big brother Ireland!

[Claymores]

England need a new anthem, I think. GSTQ is meant to be the UK national anthem.

No it isn't, Scotland dropped that

[Raph]

Well she shouldnt be singing somebody elses anthem anyway.

I wouldn't!

this. :hugesmile:

[Claymores]

why did they use the British national anthem for the English national anthem:conf:

Constitutionally, I'd thought GSTQ became England's National Anthem once Scotland officially dropped it and retook it's own :conf:

[SoFarSoGood282]

How many of the housemates would be able to name the Irish national anthem, let alone sing it?

Probably none.

So why the heck is Caoimhe expected to know the BRITISH* national anthem?

* hence why Dave and John both know it (or should have done)

This!

God she's Irish get over it!!
She has an Irish name, she wore the Irish Jersey and didn't sing the anthem because she's IRISH!!!!

[tmx]

Constitutionally, I'd thought GSTQ became England's National Anthem once Scotland officially dropped it and retook it's own :conf:

Neither England nor Scotland have an official National Anthem. Flower of Scotland is the unofficial one for Scotland while England use the British one. Wales do have a national anthem, called 'Hen Wlad Fy Nhadau'

GSTQ is the British National Anthem, as well as the royal anthem of Australia, the Bahamas, Barbados, Canada and Jamaica.

It was actually in the news a few days ago about how England should get its own Anthem - http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/politics/10407937.stm

Caoihme's quite happy to soak up the fame on British big brother.. if she doesn't like it then she should have gone on big brother Ireland!

Well firstly, according to Caoihme, Big Brother approached HER to come on the show.

Secondly, Big Brother held auditions in Ireland, it is broadcast in Ireland and up until the voting scandals you could vote from Ireland.

Hence, Big Brother UK effectively includes Ireland

And finally who said anything about her not liking it? This is about hert not knowing the words

[tmx]

And she didn't sing the national anthem because she was Irish aswell, but Dave still sang it even though he is Welsh. They should have just locked the useless bitch in the house.

That makes no sense at all.

GSTQ is the BRITISH national anthem.

Wales is a part of Britain while Ireland is not. ergo Dave should know it while Caoihme should not.

[AngelChair]

She did make a face regarding it, but i just think she felt awkward because she didnt know the words!

Otherwise she might have been singing:
Sinne Fianna Fáil
A tá fé gheall ag Éirinn,
buion dár slua
Thar toinn do ráinig chugainn,
Fé mhóid bheith saor.
Sean tír ár sinsir feasta
Ní fhagfar fé'n tiorán ná fé'n tráil
Anocht a théam sa bhearna bhaoil,
Le gean ar Ghaeil chun báis nó saoil
Le guna screach fé lámhach na bpiléar
Seo libh canaídh Amhrán na bhFiann.

[SoFarSoGood282]

She did make a face regarding it, but i just think she felt awkward because she didnt know the words!

Otherwise she might have been singing:
Sinne Fianna Fáil
A tá fé gheall ag Éirinn,
buion dár slua
Thar toinn do ráinig chugainn,
Fé mhóid bheith saor.
Sean tír ár sinsir feasta
Ní fhagfar fé'n tiorán ná fé'n tráil
Anocht a théam sa bhearna bhaoil,
Le gean ar Ghaeil chun báis nó saoil
Le guna screach fé lámhach na bpiléar
Seo libh canaídh Amhrán na bhFiann.


She should have start singing that.....that would really piss some people off!!

[Livia]

How many of the housemates would be able to name the Irish national anthem, let alone sing it?

Probably none.

So why the heck is Caoimhe expected to know the BRITISH* national anthem?

* hence why Dave and John both know it (or should have done)

She's on a BRITISH show in BRITAIN. If I were on an Irish show in Ireland maybe I would, out of respect, sing their anthem. What's more she should have been asked to wear a red shirt. John James wore a red shirt and he's an Aussie. She should have worn a red shirt with an Irish badge on it, but as usual, the more politically sensitive nations have to have special treatment.

[AngelChair]

She's on a BRITISH show in BRITAIN. If I were on an Irish show in Ireland maybe I would, our of respect, sing their anthem. What's more she should have been asked to wear a red shirt. John James wore a red shirt and he's an Aussie. She should have worn a red shirt with an Irish badge on it, but as usual, the more politically sensitive nations have to have special treatment.

Areyou seriously saying if you were accepted onto Big Brother in Slovakia/Italy/Germany you would learn their national anthem before you went on??

Really.....?

[SoFarSoGood282]

She's on a BRITISH show in BRITAIN. If I were on an Irish show in Ireland maybe I would, our of respect, sing their anthem. What's more she should have been asked to wear a red shirt. John James wore a red shirt and he's an Aussie. She should have worn a red shirt with an Irish badge on it, but as usual, the more politically sensitive nations have to have special treatment.



An anthem is a song of loyalty or devotion, a song of praise. A national anthem is therefore by definition a song that praises a nation or expresses loyally to a nation. Caoimhe has no loyalty so why should she be a hypocrite and sing GSTQ!!

[Peter Plunker]

Dave's jersey was the Welsh one, not the english one with a Welsh badge stuck on. Made by Champion not Umbro.

PS Dave loves hiss footy and is a Cardiff City season ticket holder.

[Livia]

Areyou seriously saying if you were accepted onto Big Brother in Slovakia/Italy/Germany you would learn their national anthem before you went on??

Really.....?

No... maybe not... but you catch my drift. I wouldn't think twice about wearing an Irish shirt if I were in Ireland. Or a German shirt if I were in Germany. And actually I already know the Italian National Anthem... but you wouldn't want me to sing it, I assure you. I make Sunshine sound like a really good singer.

[Livia]

An anthem is a song of loyalty or devotion, a song of praise. A national anthem is therefore by definition a song that praises a nation or expresses loyally to a nation. Caoimhe has no loyalty so why should she be a hypocrite and sing GSTQ!!

Yeah, I understand the concept of a national anthem, although I think you're dragging it a little far there. But she shouldn't have had an exception made for her with the shirt unless they'd afforded the same privilege to John James. It was only a bit of fun, no one was asking her to make a political comment...

[SoFarSoGood282]

Yeah, I understand the concept of a national anthem, although I think you're dragging it a little far there. But she shouldn't have had an exception made for her with the shirt unless they'd afforded the same privilege to John James. It was only a bit of fun, no one was asking her to make a political comment...

She was given the shirt by BB. JJ parents are English, he has a English passport!! JJ has said before that he supports England and watches the matches. I don't know the words to GSTQ, I wouldn't say she does either...

[AngelChair]

No... maybe not... but you catch my drift. I wouldn't think twice about wearing an Irish shirt if I were in Ireland. Or a German shirt if I were in Germany. And actually I already know the Italian National Anthem... but you wouldn't want me to sing it, I assure you. I make Sunshine sound like a really good singer.

:joker: Sunshine does sound like a strangled cat! :cat:

Im thinking if there were other foreign HMs this year they would all be given their own gear too. I think its more to do with having pride in the country you are from rather than the country you are currently residing in.

[Livia]

:joker: Sunshine does sound like a strangled cat! :cat:

Im thinking if there were other foreign HMs this year they would all be given their own gear too. I think its more to do with having pride in the country you are from rather than the country you are currently residing in.

If Caoime was allowed to wear an Irish shirt in an England/Germany World Cup task, maybe they should have had someone in the German house wearing a French shirt in honour of Henri's handball that knocked Ireland out. Or is that just too mean?

[AngelChair]

If Caoime was allowed to wear an Irish shirt in an England/Germany World Cup task, maybe they should have had someone in the German house wearing a French shirt in honour of Henri's handball that knocked Ireland out. Or is that just too mean?

That would be hilariously mean!! :joker:

[karezza]

I think Big Brother want her out - she is a poisonous influence on Scabby.

[Claymores]

Yeah, I understand the concept of a national anthem, although I think you're dragging it a little far there. But she shouldn't have had an exception made for her with the shirt unless they'd afforded the same privilege to John James. It was only a bit of fun, no one was asking her to make a political comment...

I sure as 'ell wouldn't have sung the English National Anthem or worn an Engerland strip. Nothing fun in oppressing others of a different nationality

[tmx]

Yeah, I understand the concept of a national anthem, although I think you're dragging it a little far there. But she shouldn't have had an exception made for her with the shirt unless they'd afforded the same privilege to John James. It was only a bit of fun, no one was asking her to make a political comment...

Umm, they did offer JJ the Australian kit, but he said he supported England (he has a dual nationality)

Dave had the Welsh kit (it just happens to also be red)

So she didn't have an exception made for her, all the non-English housemates had the choice to wear the English kit or that of their own country

[brian3]

And she didn't sing the national anthem because she was Irish aswell, but Dave still sang it even though he is Welsh. They should have just locked the useless bitch in the house.


because in Ireland God save the queen in part of bigotry and violence

[Iceman]

She wore an Irish shirt because she's Irish.
She didn't sing the National Anthem because she's Irish.
She had the option to wear the English shirt but she didn't because she's Irish.

I dont see what the debate is about???

[KKBL]

She didn't know the bloody words for **** sake. No need to make a big deal out of nothing.

[Claymores]

She wore an Irish shirt because she's Irish.
She didn't sing the National Anthem because she's Irish.
She had the option to wear the English shirt but she didn't because she's Irish.

I dont see what the debate is about???

A bit simple to understand wasn't it!!!!!!

[Big Brother Fan]

Why would she even know the anthem????

[Livia]

because in Ireland God save the queen in part of bigotry and violence

You're right, God Save The Queen is associated with bigotry and violence in Ireland. In England, 'Fields of Athenry' is considered to be a rebel song. Yet Caoimhe sat in the garden - in England - and sang it despite the fact Steve was in the house, missing his legs because of an IRA bomb. So for Gawd sake let's not upset Caoimhe by asking her to wear an England shirt... but let her sing her rebel song and no one is to be offended.

[AngelChair]

The Fields of Athenry is not a rebel song, its an Irish folk ballad!

Jeez if you heard the rebel songs you'd know it!!

[Claymores]

You're right, God Save The Queen is associated with bigotry and violence in Ireland. In England, 'Fields of Athenry' is considered to be a rebel song. Yet Caoimhe sat in the garden - in England - and sang it despite the fact Steve was in the house, missing his legs because of an IRA bomb. So for Gawd sake let's not upset Caoimhe by asking her to wear an England shirt... but let her sing her rebel song and no one is to be offended.

Hey pal, come to Celtic Park or Ibrox. Ireland may be at peace for the moment but the war rages on in Scotland over Sectarianism.

[Livia]

The Fields of Athenry is not a rebel song, its an Irish folk ballad!

Jeez if you heard the rebel songs you'd know it!!

So, Fields of Athenry doesn't have any connection with republicans? Really?

Okaaaaay...

[Deirdre]

Why wasn't JJ wearing the Aussie kit?

[Livia]

Hey pal, come to Celtic Park or Ibrox. Ireland may be at peace for the moment but the war rages on in Scotland over Sectarianism.


I know that, Claymores. I lived in Glasgow.

['Conor]

she had every right not to sing the national anthem! and maybe she didnt no the words, im from ireland and i dont no the words to the english national anthem

[Claymores]

Why wasn't JJ wearing the Aussie kit?

He does have a UK passport cos of his parents and could play for Engerland if he was any good at fitba!

[AngelChair]

So, Fields of Athenry doesn't have any connection with republicans? Really?

Okaaaaay...

What point are you trying to make? That people who have love for their homeland country and its accurate history are just trying to be awkward, thats ridiculous..... you are coming off as a very unintelligent person.

[Claymores]

I know that, Claymores. I lived in Glasgow.

OK - so I don't get why you are miffed a non-Englander wouldn't wear the Engerlish National shirt or sing the Engerlish National anthem :conf:

As said above, I bluddy wouldn't have.

[Livia]

What point are you trying to make? That people who have love for their homeland country and its accurate history are just trying to be awkward, thats ridiculous..... you are coming off as a very unintelligent person.

AngelChair, I like you. We should probably stop debating this. For clarity I'll just say this then drop off this thread: That song, or a version of it, has connotations with British people who suffered thought the Troubles. I have no problem at all with Irish people and if they want to sing that song at home all day long then that's just fine with me. I just thought it was a little naive and unthinking of her to sing it there, with Steve being around.

[Livia]

OK - so I don't get why you are miffed a non-Englander wouldn't wear the Engerlish National shirt or sing the Engerlish National anthem :conf:

As said above, I bluddy wouldn't have.

It's the whole you, me, them, us thing. The UK is so divided it takes a bloody war to join us all up.

[Claymores]

I know that, Claymores. I lived in Glasgow.

Sectarianism in Scottish football terms is also a misnomer for Unionism. It was a fooball task (4-1 bye the way when Germany decided not to rub it in more by putting their 2nd team on in a triple substitution) Hence Rangers fans fly the Union Jack and sing God Save the Queen.

[Livia]

Sectarianism in Scottish football terms is also a misnomer for Unionism. It was a fooball task (4-1 bye the way when Germany decided not to rub it in more by putting their 2nd team on in a triple substitution) Hence Rangers fans fly the Union Jack and sing God Save the Queen.

While the Scottish team watched the whole tournament from the comfort of their own homes, as usual :-)

[Claymores]

What point are you trying to make? That people who have love for their homeland country and its accurate history are just trying to be awkward, thats ridiculous..... you are coming off as a very unintelligent person.

Good post

[Claymores]

While the Scottish team watched the whole tournament from the comfort of their own homes, as usual :-)

Is that even a clever put down???? We sing "We're sh1te and we know we are" at matches. Engerlish media told me Engerland were gonna win the World Cup. not once, not twice - 3 billion times.

[brian3]

You're right, God Save The Queen is associated with bigotry and violence in Ireland. In England, 'Fields of Athenry' is considered to be a rebel song. Yet Caoimhe sat in the garden - in England - and sang it despite the fact Steve was in the house, missing his legs because of an IRA bomb. So for Gawd sake let's not upset Caoimhe by asking her to wear an England shirt... but let her sing her rebel song and no one is to be offended.

I agree 2 wrongs dont make a right. You also have to take into accout the reaction of the Irsh press if she had done that. She would have been lynched

In any case. It's the British big brother. Not the English big brother. The whole task was rubbish. I dought they would have done the same if Scotland, Wales or Northern Ireland where playing.

[Claymores]

AngelChair, I like you. We should probably stop debating this. For clarity I'll just say this then drop off this thread: That song, or a version of it, has connotations with British people who suffered thought the Troubles. I have no problem at all with Irish people and if they want to sing that song at home all day long then that's just fine with me. I just thought it was a little naive and unthinking of her to sing it there, with Steve being around.

You should deffo drop off - Fields is a freedom song . It's not Steve's fault he was sent to a wrong war any more than the coffins coming back from Afghanistan

[Princess]

She was playing for England, should have sang the anthem.

Why would she even know the English national anthem? She's not English.

[brian3]

Sectarianism in Scottish football terms is also a misnomer for Unionism. It was a fooball task (4-1 bye the way when Germany decided not to rub it in more by putting their 2nd team on in a triple substitution) Hence Rangers fans fly the Union Jack and sing God Save the Queen.

the Celtic fans have the Tricolour out a matches. How is that any diffrent

[Claymores]

the Celtic fans have the Tricolour out a matches. How is that any diffrent

It's not - it's Sectarianism, which is why I mentioned the Irish war is still happening in Scotland. If I go to Celtic Park, I take my tricola (I have no religion). If I go to see Scotland play England at anything (tiddlywinks even) I'd take the St Andrews cross that has been all over Europe in soccer and American Football.

I cannot go to the bar that is 100 metres from my house because I'm not a Hun with a Union Jack.

Asking an Irish person to sing God Save the Queen is out of order.

[SoFarSoGood282]

So, Fields of Athenry doesn't have any connection with republicans? Really?

Okaaaaay...

The song is a Irish folk song, there is a republican chorus that some people sing but that doesn't make the original song a rebel song. It would be a rebel song if she sang the other chorus!

[tmx]

Why wasn't JJ wearing the Aussie kit?

He didn't want to. He was givne the option but said he supported England

[Deirdre]

He didn't want to. He was givne the option but said he supported England

Oh right, I see

[setanta]

Caoimhe's jersey? A thing of beauty, wasn't it?

[Claymores]

Caoimhe's jersey? A thing of beauty, wasn't it?

The German HMs ones were better!

[brian3]

It's not - it's Sectarianism, which is why I mentioned the Irish war is still happening in Scotland. If I go to Celtic Park, I take my tricola (I have no religion). If I go to see Scotland play England at anything (tiddlywinks even) I'd take the St Andrews cross that has been all over Europe in soccer and American Football.

I cannot go to the bar that is 100 metres from my house because I'm not a Hun with a Union Jack.

Asking an Irish person to sing God Save the Queen is out of order.

saying the word Hun is even more out of order. It shows just how much of a bigot you are.

Also plaeae explain to me why bting a tricola to Celtic match is any less offensive than a union jack.

[setanta]

The German HMs ones were better!

They were yesterday anyway.

[Kaaarenn!]

And she didn't sing the national anthem because she was Irish aswell, but Dave still sang it even though he is Welsh. They should have just locked the useless bitch in the house.

I thought she wasn't singing it because she didn't know the words lol :laugh:

[soleila]

I'm Irish and I don't know the English anthem - do you know ours?
Anyways, JJ was given an Oz uniform and requested an English one, prob trying to look like David Beckham. He knew the words cos he's basically British!

[fruit_cake]

I'm Irish and I don't know the English anthem - do you know ours?


last time i checked this was the english big brother, not the irish one!

[Claymores]

saying the word Hun is even more out of order. It shows just how much of a bigot you are.

Also plaeae explain to me why bting a tricola to Celtic match is any less offensive than a union jack.

Hun, Mick/Paddy - it's how we call Rangers/Celtic fans without trouble - and as an East Fife fan from me they wear that term with honour.

How can I be bigoted when have no religion?????

Tricola is no less offensive - which is why we do it. My area is predominantly prodi and Unionist - we sing Fields or Irish National Anthem back at the Unionists just to annoy them as they have done singing God Save the Queen to us.

I'm mainly an East Fire Supporter and we chave a song about Cowdenbeath, the Cowden Famileee, a pisstake on the Adams Family, so BB has been quite funny


Get over it kiddo - nobody likes Engerland except the engerlish

[JustKaz]

Dave's shirt was an england shirt but it had a wales badge on it to represent his nationality. Dont you think BB could have afforded proper shirts for them. what a bunch of money grabbers they are. Shame on you BB.

That so made me laugh!!! England shirt with Wales badge????

Dave had a WALES football shirt on.

[brian3]

Hun, Mick/Paddy - it's how we call Rangers/Celtic fans without trouble - and as an East Fife fan from me they wear that term with honour.

How can I be bigoted when have no religion?????

Tricola is no less offensive - which is why we do it. My area is predominantly prodi and Unionist - we sing Fields or Irish National Anthem back at the Unionists just to annoy them as they have done singing God Save the Queen to us.

I'm mainly an East Fire Supporter and we chave a song about Cowdenbeath, the Cowden Famileee, a pisstake on the Adams Family, so BB has been quite funny


Get over it kiddo - nobody likes Engerland except the engerlish

I'm glad it's all a big laugh for you. But In northern Ireland Hun is an bigoted term. You could get fired from work, your head kicked in or even killed for saying it.

It causes great offence to half the population over here.

Perhapes to you it's all fun and games on the weekend.

[brian3]

last time i checked this was the english big brother, not the irish one!


It's the British BB. Even if it was the English BB people who are not from England have the right not to put on the shirt.

[Lee.]

Yeah. The English contestants all had English shirts on, David had a Welsh shirt, JJ apparently had an Aussie shirt and requested and England one for whatever reason and Caoimhe had an Irish one.. Fair enough I reckon?
And as for her singing the English anthem? Why would she know it/want to sing it? I certainly wouldn't stand with my hand on my heart and sing another country's anthem! She did right just to stay quiet!

[Claymores]

last time i checked this was the english big brother, not the irish one!

Check again sprog - this is supposed to be UK -Big Brother, hence why you night well have Irish, Welsh or Scottish contestants at some point.

[pixee]

Why didn't JJ have australia shirt?

Anyway national anthem is outdated but if your a pro footballer guess you have to but i wouldn't sing it and i'm english.

[Claymores]

I'm glad it's all a big laugh for you. But In northern Ireland Hun is an bigoted term. You could get fired from work, your head kicked in or even killed for saying it.

It causes great offence to half the population over here.

Perhapes to you it's all fun and games on the weekend.

It is not a big laugh - my cousin is still in the UVDA and the war is alive and well here. I object to your dismissing this

[Smiddy]

Check again sprog - this is supposed to be UK -Big Brother, hence why you night well have Irish, Welsh or Scottish contestants at some point.

Ireland isn't part of the UK. UK Big Brother has Irish people in it because they hold auditions in Dublin. Simple as.

Anyway this thread is ridiculous, I wouldn't have sang the English National Anthem if I was in the house.

Because:

1. I don't know the words
2. I'm not English

Just like I wouldn't expect an English person to know/sing the Irish National Anthem if they were on an Irish TV Show.

[pixee]

Ireland isn't part of the UK. UK Big Brother has Irish people in it because they hold auditions in Dublin. Simple as.

Anyway this thread is ridiculous, I wouldn't have sang the English National Anthem if I was in the house.

Because:

1. I don't know the words
2. I'm not English

Just like I wouldn't expect an English person to know/sing the Irish National Anthem if they were on an Irish TV Show.

I think this is fair, i wouldn't sing it and i am english because i don't agree with the words as relevant to england anymore.

BUT it is BB lol we won't solve political issues here as some other people are bringing into this thread. Trust the irish and their stupid conflict/war to bring the mood down lol.

[Claymores]

Ireland isn't part of the UK. UK Big Brother has Irish people in it because they hold auditions in Dublin. Simple as.

Anyway this thread is ridiculous, I wouldn't have sang the English National Anthem if I was in the house.

Because:

1. I don't know the words
2. I'm not English

Just like I wouldn't expect an English person to know/sing the Irish National Anthem if they were on an Irish TV Show.

Ah sorry - I don't know the correct term for Scotland, Ireland, Wales and Engerland any more - I was just trying to say it is nor engerlish big brother

[setanta]

I think this is fair, i wouldn't sing it and i am english because i don't agree with the words as relevant to england anymore.

BUT it is BB lol we won't solve political issues here as some other people are bringing into this thread. Trust the irish and their stupid conflict/war to bring the mood down lol.

I was with you up until the final sentence. Let yourself down big time with that one.

[President]

Keeva is proud Irish woman. She shouldn't be wearing England's shirt and good on her to refuse it.

JJ is a dual Aussie/Brit and his parents are English so he probably supports England.

[pixee]

I was with you up until the final sentence. Let yourself down big time with that one.

Forgive me, i know it is a very complicated issue but isn't the basis founded on a disagreement between two different religious groups?

If so...stupid.

(it was mainly a joke ofc lol)

[setanta]

Forgive me, i know it is a very complicated issue but isn't the basis founded on a disagreement between two different religious groups?

If so...stupid.

(it was mainly a joke ofc lol)

And yet you laugh again. It's fairly obvious you don't know what you're talking about, and I don't remember any Irish person really bringing politics into it. Let's not forget that this thread was a ridiculous one from the off.

[MissKittyFantastico]

Why should she wear an England shirt, she's not English?

And as for singing the national anthem the same reason applies, and tbf even Rooney and Milner didn't sing it yesterday and they were playing for their national side ffs.

[brian3]

It is not a big laugh - my cousin is still in the UVDA and the war is alive and well here. I object to your dismissing this

I object to the use of the word Hun. Puls the implication that waving a tricola around to bait people is some sort of jolly jape

[Claymores]

Keeva is proud Irish woman. She shouldn't be wearing England's shirt and good on her to refuse it.

JJ is a dual Aussie/Brit and his parents are English so he probably supports England.

You sneaked out of the group Pres - you were correct. Lucky the Germans took pity on you @ 4 and decided to stop.

[President]

You sneaked out of the group Pres - you were correct. Lucky the Germans took pity on you @ 4 and decided to stop.
I was right, though, wasn't I :D? We got out of the group!

[pixee]

And yet you laugh again. It's fairly obvious you don't know what you're talking about, and I don't remember any Irish person really bringing politics into it. Let's not forget that this thread was a ridiculous one from the off.

You say it is a ridiculous thread then moan when someone tries to break the ice with a jokey jibe. And the OP was just asking why she was in green and everyone was in red obviously not knowing Dave had a wales shirt on, it was a fair question if a naive one.

[Claymores]

I object to the use of the word Hun. Puls the implication that waving a tricola around to bait people is some sort of jolly jape

It's not I can assure you - sorry if I gave that impresssion. The war has ended in NI, it's alive and kicking in Scotland I can assure you - but sorry for offense

[KERRYJ]

she is just a horrible cow

[pixee]

she is just a horrible cow

lol this is more BB forum standard thank you!

[Lee.]

It's not I can assure you - sorry if I gave that impresssion. The war has ended in NI, it's alive and kicking in Scotland I can assure you - but sorry for offense

I would say it's alive and kicking in Glasgow? Well Ibrox and Celtic park really? Not the whole of Scotland..

[Claymores]

I was right, though, wasn't I :D? We got out of the group!

Very correct pres - in fact it should have been 7 against Slovenia - just as Germany should have been 9 if they'd bothered to try instead of playing their 3 simultaneous subs for a laugh

[Claymores]

I would say it's alive and kicking in Glasgow? Well Ibrox and Celtic park really? Not the whole of Scotland..

Come to the pub 100m from my house and shout "Celtic" Lee then see if we can get you to Dumfi General Hospital without you dying in the ambulance

[setanta]

You say it is a ridiculous thread then moan when someone tries to break the ice with a jokey jibe. And the OP was just asking why she was in green and everyone was in red obviously not knowing Dave had a wales shirt on, it was a fair question if a naive one.

I suppose it really boils down to my sense of humour differing from yours really, that's all. Nevermind.

[Stacey.]

Didn't know she didn't sing the anthem.. knew she was wearing green because she's Irish.. still thought she'd have worn red though

[Claymores]

Didn't know she didn't sing the anthem.. knew she was wearing green because she's Irish.. still thought she'd have worn red though

GRRRRR why miss Stace? She's Irish - do you maiively think we like your football team? (non -Engerlish I mean)

I was supporting Germany in the real 4-1 trouncing and sung the German Natoinal anthem

[Big Brother Fan]

Find me a red irish jersey then :P

[Lee.]

Come to the pub 100m from my house and shout "Celtic" Lee then see if we can get you to Dumfi General Hospital without you dying in the ambulance

Oh I know there are pubs like that outside of Glasgow but it's still mainly a Rangers/Celtic thing.. The average Joe Bloggs who has no interest in Celtic or Rangers doesn't really give a toss about the Irish/British/Catholic/Protestant thing.. It all boils down to what I always say and that is religion is the root of all evil.. from football hooliganism to all out world wars! The world would be a better place if religion was banned :)

[tmx]

Didn't know she didn't sing the anthem.. knew she was wearing green because she's Irish.. still thought she'd have worn red though

Why?

Dave didn't wear the English kit either

[Patrick]

Well she shouldnt be singing somebody elses anthem anyway.

I wouldn't!

Um, She wasn't.

She just stood there like a true Irishman (In this case girl) and ignored the anthem.

And to answer the OP she had it because shes Irish, nothing wrong with that but I don't know why JJ didn't have an Ozzy kit on then.

[Patrick]

Asking an Irish person to sing God Save the Queen is out of order.

Well Said.

[Niamh.]

And she didn't sing the national anthem because she was Irish aswell, but Dave still sang it even though he is Welsh. They should have just locked the useless bitch in the house.

How would she even know the words? We don't learn your national anthem over here, we don't learn the American one either. and isn't it the British national anthem, Dave is British so it is his national anthem.

[Iceman]

How would she even know the words? We don't learn your national anthem over here, we don't learn the American one either. and isn't it the British national anthem, Dave is British so it is his national anthem.

Exactly.....id walk out if i had to sing it, not a chance in hell of me doing it....

[Niamh.]

Keeva is proud Irish woman. She shouldn't be wearing England's shirt and good on her to refuse it.

JJ is a dual Aussie/Brit and his parents are English so he probably supports England.

Who said she refused to wear it though, maybe they just gave her that one?

[Frank E]

I was just going to ask if Dave, Caoimhe and John were asked if they would wear an England top or if the production team second guessed them.
I would have been deeply offended if I was given a Scotland top and would have refuesd to have worn one or an England. I'm British by birth, Scottish by imposition.

[Niamh.]

I think the real question here is why are the people who are bothered about, actually bothered about?

[Big Brother Fan]

Silly subject, I would have lost all respect for her (If possible) had she worn the England shirt

[amy-jaynee]

Yeah but it was a task, a penalty shootout, BB wasn't asking them to sing the national anthem when the england team were playing a match.
It's all part of the fun, they're spoil sports. If the match was England vs Wales or Ireland then it wouldn't be fair no, oh wait they didn't even qualify.

[Niamh.]

Yeah but it was a task, a penalty shootout, BB wasn't asking them to sing the national anthem when the england team were playing a match.
It's all part of the fun, they're spoil sports. If the match was England vs Wales or Ireland then it wouldn't be fair no, oh wait they didn't even qualify.

How did they spoil the fun by not wearing the same shirts exactly? and why do you care what T-Shirt they wore?:conf:

And we should have qualified:devil: maybe it would have been better if ye didn't! :joker:

[amy-jaynee]

^ i wasn't the one who made the thread, I was only giving my view. If they refused to wear that shirt then it would be a spoilt sport thing to do, however they probably just got given the shirts, Keeva being Irish got an ireland shirt, and Dave a welsh badge, JJ still got an england one though?!
Yesss, but seeing the teams that got through, if england scraped through, they wouldnt have made it past quarter finals, sad but true

[Niamh.]

^ i wasn't the one who made the thread, I was only giving my view. If they refused to wear that shirt then it would be a spoilt sport thing to do, however they probably just got given the shirts, Keeva being Irish got an ireland shirt, and Dave a welsh badge, JJ still got an england one though?!
Yesss, but seeing the teams that got through, if england scraped through, they wouldnt have made it past quarter finals, sad but true

well apparently Dave, Caoimhe and JJ all got there own countries shirts but JJ wanted an England one cos his parents are English and he has a British passport. So Dave and Caoimhe just took what BB gave them, they didn't get England ones and hand them back demanding their own countries!

[amy-jaynee]

well apparently Dave, Caoimhe and JJ all got there own countries shirts but JJ wanted an England one cos his parents are English and he has a British passport. So Dave and Caoimhe just took what BB gave them, they didn't get England ones and hand them back demanding their own countries!

Ohh that makes sense then :) and JJ did seem to be into the England vs Germany match, which made me think he probably supported England. True, and if they did ask for them changed, it would probably be in a joking kind of way like "big brother if you think im wearing that shirt, no, no way"

[Niamh.]

Ohh that makes sense then :) and JJ did seem to be into the England vs Germany match, which made me think he probably supported England. True, and if they did ask for them changed, it would probably be in a joking kind of way like "big brother if you think im wearing that shirt, no, no way"

Exactly, I think there are people on here who just like to see an issue where there isn't actually one!

[brian3]

I think the whole task was wrong. I would think the same if it was Ireland playing and the had to sing the Irish National Anthem.

1. It is the uk big brother not the English big brother as some people in this thread have said. The uk includes Scotland, Wales and Northern Ireland.

2. Taken into account past animosity within the uk it is wrong to have a task which is about celebration of 1 country.

3. Big brother is about being away from the outside world. Why let the world cup invade that. I seem to recall in BB2 Dean asked if he and Bubble could do some task so they could watch an important football match. They said no.

4. As Shabby quite rightly said. People with no interest in football are left in the dirt. A reward should be something the whole house should like.

5. Had Caoimhe put on the England shirt and sung the NA. She would be crucified by the press and many of the people in Ireland (north and south) The amout of fuss in the southern press over Bryan Mcfadden changing his name to the English translation. But that would be like nothing. She would be hated.