Drunk on the holy spirit

[brian3]

After reading the bible. Dave acts like a 12 year old who has drunk a mouthfull of shandy and is walking around saying "I'm REALLY drunk". It looks so fake

[fingers]

After reading the bible. Dave acts like a 12 year old who has drunk a muthfull of shandy and is walking around saying "I'm REALLY drunk". It looks so fake

It IS so fake!:dance:

[bbbrrr]

its like he's stoned on the holy spirit, his voice goes really relaxed and tired

[paper-cut-exit]

Yup! also looks fake to me.

[Lee.]

I cannot be doing with it at ALL! He actually doesn't seem to be too a bad person until he start all that sh!t. If I was in there with him I would find it very difficult to listen to without telling him to ****!

[bananarama]

He is simply copying that other idiot from CBB.........

[King Gizzard]

He is simply copying that other idiot from CBB.........

Lol I'm pretty certain Dave has been doing this long before January

[bbbrrr]

ya i think he is funny and likeable, but that god stuff is total bs

[bananarama]

Lol I'm pretty certain Dave has been doing this long before January


You may be right but I'm not convinced.......

[Claymores]

Drunk on the holy spirit - I sometimes think that Dave has sneaked-in some Absinthe instead of mouthwash.

(both are green coloured)

[BigBrotherfan4ever]

After reading the bible. Dave acts like a 12 year old who has drunk a mouthfull of shandy and is walking around saying "I'm REALLY drunk". It looks so fake

Totally agree :thumbs:

[Peter Plunker]

Not fake.

[Claymores]

After reading the bible. Dave acts like a 12 year old who has drunk a mouthfull of shandy and is walking around saying "I'm REALLY drunk". It looks so fake

What willDave do if BB put-in a Muslim or Jewish HM?! Will he still give bible classes or teach the Jewish HM that Jesus did really come to save the world?

[Lee.]

Of course it's fake!! He's clearly not high/drunk from reading the bible.. that's just nonsense, therefore he must be acting it for whatever reason!

[chuff me dizzy]

After reading the bible. Dave acts like a 12 year old who has drunk a mouthfull of shandy and is walking around saying "I'm REALLY drunk". It looks so fake

I could kick my tv screen through when he does this ,what a total twat

[BigBrotherfan4ever]

I could kick my tv screen through when he does this ,what a total twat

Me too:joker:

[georgehudson]

He is the biggest cock ive ever seen on BB, or anywere for that matter, no wait!, accept from one person thats at my school aha.

[fingers]

Not fake.

You've already said that you are his mate, are you also a member of his "Church"?

[chuff me dizzy]

Me too:joker:

If he could see how *******ng stupid he looked ?? and dont even start me on the"I cured cancer"BS :devil::devil::devil:

[Claymores]

If he could see how *******ng stupid he looked ?? and dont even start me on the"I cured cancer"BS :devil::devil::devil:

Hands-on - he did tell Steve he'd get the Lord to grow Steve new legs thu his powers

Out of order thing to say Dave

[chuff me dizzy]

Hands-on - he did tell Steve he'd get the Lord to grow Steve new legs thu his powers

Out of order thing to say Dave

Lets see him do it ,live on bb ....... did you hear him on about when he goes to U.S conferences? the things these looby yanks can cure is nobodies business ,makes Jesus turning water into wine look childs play

[Raph]

Agreed. I really don't like Dave.

[WOMBAI]

You've already said that you are his mate, are you also a member of his "Church"?

What - is that an attempt to discredit him! If he is also a member of his church - you think his opinions aren't valid - don't be ridiculous!

[Malza]

retarded idiot :bored:

[Claymores]

You've already said that you are his mate, are you also a member of his "Church"?

Wasn't that President's pal Gavin you're thinking of?!

[fingers]

What - is that an attempt to discredit him! If he is also a member of his church - you think his opinions aren't valid - don't be ridiculous!

Just curious, just the facts, Ma'am!

[Claymores]

retarded idiot :bored:

The definitive German view from Syl the pornstar supporter :joker:

[fingers]

Wasn't that President's pal Gavin you're thinking of?!

Nah he said it on here about a week ago.

[Malza]

The definitive German view from Syl the pornstar supporter :joker:

:joker:
Someone over there needs to be spanked or what?

[WOMBAI]

Just curious, just the facts, Ma'am!

Sounds like you wanted to twist the facts to suit your views!

[Claymores]

:joker:
Someone over there needs to be spanked or what?

Don't start Sylvia or I'll set Enid on you - she can take your kinks and raise them by 10 wee pal :hugesmile:

[fingers]

Sounds like you wanted to twist the facts to suit your views!

Are you for real?

[WOMBAI]

Are you for real?

Of course! :hugesmile:

[Malza]

Don't start Sylvia or I'll set Enid on you - she can take your kinks and raise them by 10 wee pal :hugesmile:

Pffff

[Claymores]

Pffff

Remind me the name of the pornstar - I'll tell my pal Christof from Aachen later I want him to win on ICQ to see is he even has been watching German BB!

[reece(:]

omg he gets drunk when reading the bible? I thought it was with a bit of booze down him.

[flamingGalah!]

Not fake.

Of course it is fake, unless he has sneaked tiny traces of coccaine between every page, as he does sniff the bible too... Which actually wouldn't surprise me considering his past...

Or it could just be that he has little in the way of brain cells left after years of drug & alcohol abuse & he really does think he is getting high, when infact he is just insane...

[discotheque]

Just a ploy to get impressionable people to join his throng.

Tell people you can 'get drunk' on that crap, surround em with others already apparently 'converted' and use peer pressure/conformity principles to hoodwink them into thinking they too are 'intoxicated'. Hey we're all acting like idiots, why aren't you ? Standard cult induction nonsense.

[WOMBAI]

Just a ploy to get impressionable people to join his throng.

Tell people you can 'get drunk' on that crap, surround em with others already apparently 'converted' and use peer pressure/conformity principles to hoodwink them into thinking they too are 'intoxicated'. Hey we're all acting like idiots, why aren't you ? Standard cult induction nonsense.

Rubbish - you are reading way too much into it!

[flamingGalah!]

Rubbish - you are reading way too much into it!

So do you think it is scientifically possible to get drunk by simply reading a book?? :conf:

[Lee.]

So do you think it is scientifically possible to get drunk by simply reading a book?? :conf:

No is the answer to that.. he's either acting or just plain barking mad. He doesn't come across as barking mad in other ways, so I assume he's acting.. But then on the other hand, the fact that he expects people to accept his "Jesus highs" kind of make me think he is in fact as mad as a box of frogs!

[stoney]

After reading the bible. Dave acts like a 12 year old who has drunk a mouthfull of shandy and is walking around saying "I'm REALLY drunk". It looks so fake

Its good on him.

So what he finds fun and enjoyment out of something that is not addictive or harmful. Where the rest of us dont have his strength of belief.

A pity there are not a good few more dave's in our world:dance:

[discotheque]

Rubbish - you are reading way too much into it!

I'm not saying he's trying to convert folks in there. But I've seen that Happy Clappy nonsense too many times in the real world and I've no doubt the 'you can get drunk on our lord' routine is used to entice often quite vulnerable/impressionable/desperate/young people.

[flamingGalah!]

No is the answer to that.. he's either acting or just plain barking mad. He doesn't come across as barking mad in other ways, so I assume he's acting.. But then on the other hand, the fact that he expects people to accept his "Jesus highs" kind of make me think he is in fact as mad as a box of frogs!

I personally think he has damaged many braincells due to his past addictions...

[janaddy86]

I wonder if his wife and family etc cringe a little bit when he pulls that one. :)

[WOMBAI]

I wonder if his wife and family etc cringe a little bit when he pulls that one. :)

He has done nothing for them to be ashamed of - unlike many of the other hms - whose relatives may well be cringing!

[janaddy86]

He has done nothing for them to be ashamed of - unlike many of the other hms - whose relatives may well be cringing!

You obviously have a different perspective to some of us here.

[stoney]

I wonder if his wife and family etc cringe a little bit when he pulls that one. :)

I think his family might know him slightly better than us faceless names on the interwebby thingy and as such they will be proud as punch of him:hugesmile:

They would also be willing to give him the benefit of the doubt as opposed to automatically get on his back for simply having a belief in anything as some have:nono:

[WOMBAI]

You obviously have a different perspective to some of us here.

Hardly the only one!

[stoney]

janaddy86 Quote:
"Originally Posted by WOMBAI
"He has done nothing for them to be ashamed of - unlike many of the other hms - whose relatives may well be cringing!"

You obviously have a different perspective to some of us here."

What has he doen to make his family , that actually know him, ashamed of him in your opinion:conf::conf::conf:

[Angus]

Don't people recognise metaphor when they see it? - being drunk on the holy spirit is Dave's way of saying he is filled with the love of God (there are many references to being filled with the holy spirit in the bible and some denominations actively practice rituals designed to put its followers in a state of euphoria very similar to intoxication). If people in the house are sick and tired of hearing him talk about God, then why don't they have the guts to tell him to **** instead of bitching about him behind his back?

Personally, I nod off every time Nathan, Ife, Josie, Scabby, Sidekick or JJ open their mouths, so perhaps they should be more tolerant as they are deadly bores themselves.

[janaddy86]

I think his family might know him slightly better than us faceless names on the interwebby thingy and as such they will be proud as punch of him:hugesmile:

They would also be willing to give him the benefit of the doubt as opposed to automatically get on his back for simply having a belief in anything as some have:nono:

You could well be right.

[janaddy86]

Hardly the only one!

I wasn't suggesting you were.

[discotheque]

Don't people recognise metaphor when they see it? - being drunk on the holy spirit is Dave's way of saying he is filled with the love of God (there are many references to being filled with the holy spirit in the bible and some denominations actively practice rituals designed to put its followers in a state of euphoria very similar to intoxication). If people in the house are sick and tired of hearing him talk about God, then why don't they have the guts to tell him to **** instead of bitching about him behind his back?

Personally, I nod off every time Nathan, Ife, Josie, Scabby, Sidekick or JJ open their mouths, so perhaps they should be more tolerant as they are deadly bores themselves.

He visibly pretends to be 'drunk'

If he's not promoting the physiologically intoxicating effects of his religion then he should not use the term 'drunk'

He might as well say:

'Off me ******in tits on our lord'

[Kaaarenn!]

I'm finding it a bit weird now. It's like he's takin the p**s or something :S

[fingers]

He visibly pretends to be 'drunk'

If he's not promoting the physiologically intoxicating effects of his religion then he should not use the term 'drunk'

He might as well say:

'Off me ******in tits on our lord'

He ACTS drunk, he slurs his words like a drunk does, he PRETENDS to be drunk!

[Claymores]

If people in the house are sick and tired of hearing him talk about God, then why don't they have the guts to tell him to **** instead of bitching about him behind his back?

That's a view - but why did the 'celebs' allow themselves themselves to be bored to death by Steven in CBB? I tend to think it's a human reaction that you don't want to say to someome's face that they're talking sh1te.

I hope BB put a Mulsin and a Jewish person in next to see if they object. See him trying to indoctrinate the Jewish person that Jesus DID really come down to save us all.

Dave saying he'd put 'hands on' to Steve's stumps to get his Lord to grow him new legs was really out of order.

[janaddy86]

janaddy86 Quote:
"Originally Posted by WOMBAI
"He has done nothing for them to be ashamed of - unlike many of the other hms - whose relatives may well be cringing!"

You obviously have a different perspective to some of us here."

What has he doen to make his family , that actually know him, ashamed of him in your opinion:conf::conf::conf:

Well I am in agreement with the thread starter about how he is perceived as acting drunk after reading the bible and how it looks fake.

That is why I was wondering if his family/friends etc might cringe at it.

[Angus]

[QUOTE=discotheque;3424333]He visibly pretends to be 'drunk'

If he's not promoting the physiologically intoxicating effects of his religion then he should not use the term 'drunk'

He might as well say:

'Off me ******in tits on our lord'[/QUOTE

He can use whatever term he wants to describe how he feels - he's certainly far more articulate than some of the FMs on here. One can be "drunk" on fame, or success, or love or power, so why shouldn't Dave be "drunk" on the love of God, if the feeling of loving God makes him feel euphoric. He certainly doesn't have to justify himself to ANYONE least of all to plebs who wouldn't recognise a genuine emotion if it hit them in the face.

[paper-cut-exit]

Dave saying he'd put 'hands on' to Steve's stumps to get his Lord to grow him new legs was really out of order.

If that's what he said then he deserves to be evicted for that alone.

[janaddy86]

Dave saying he'd put 'hands on' to Steve's stumps to get his Lord to grow him new legs was really out of order.

I thought that was quite awkward for Steve when he was talking about that.

[Sabrewulf238]

Dave is a strange one.....sometimes I feel like laughing when it talks about being drunk on the holy spirit.....but other times I'm just like "what the? -_-"

[yousoboo!]

http://www.offgridworship.com/2009/07/how-to-get-drunk-in-holy-ghost.html

[WOMBAI]

If that's what he said then he deserves to be evicted for that alone.

It was tactless, not malicious - Steve would of understood that I'm sure - no need for him to be evicted - over-reaction or what!

[Shiner]

I'm not a big Dave fan or owt but in the spirit of fairness I said this in a different thread and I think it explains it.

It's a fairly well documented phenomenon. It's a sort of hypnotic state entered into by meditation, only they are convinced of it spiritual origins. It can take many different forms. Just think about some of the gospel stuff you might have seen on the telly where they get right in to the music and start swooning and convulsing or the guys in Thailand that can put hooks into their body or knives through there faces. It's the same kind of thing except Dave feels euphoric. It's a big shame that some more stupid people take him literally when he says he gets "drunk" on the lord.

[moghirl]

Just a ploy to get impressionable people to join his throng.

Tell people you can 'get drunk' on that crap, surround em with others already apparently 'converted' and use peer pressure/conformity principles to hoodwink them into thinking they too are 'intoxicated'. Hey we're all acting like idiots, why aren't you ? Standard cult induction nonsense.

That's it in a nutshell, discotheque, .. classic techniques used by these types of cults to lure unsuspecting newcomers into the 'fold' .. drunk on the holy spirit :joker: .. aye right ye are .. pull the other one .. it's got bells ..

[discotheque]

Angus,

I defend his right to have any kind of religious experience, and indeed, to tell people about that experience.

I take issue with the term 'drunk' in this case though because I believe our holy man 'PRETENDS' to be 'drunk' which is extremely alarming to me. You think he is legit, OK.

[paper-cut-exit]

It was tactless, not malicious - Steve would of understood that I'm sure - no need for him to be evicted - over-reaction or what!

I didn't say it was malicious. Just shows how much crap the guy talks and what a fake he is tho.

It's a good enough reason to evict him imo!

But i knew you'd jump to his defence again and disagree :sleep:

[JustSkipIt]

....One can be "drunk" on fame, or success, or love or power, so why shouldn't Dave be "drunk" on the love of God, if the feeling of loving God makes him feel euphoric. He certainly doesn't have to justify himself to ANYONE least of all to plebs who wouldn't recognise a genuine emotion if it hit them in the face.

Thank you Angus - I couldn't agree more

Maybe the word of God leaves him feeling euphoric - or perhaps he has a psychosomatic reaction which leaves him feeling genuinely intoxicated. Who knows? And why does it matter all that much? Dave's a legend.
This constant attack on his faith is getting a bit old now – and if it's the only thing you can fault him for he's not doing too badly.

[Claymores]

It was tactless, not malicious - Steve would of understood that I'm sure - no need for him to be evicted - over-reaction or what!

We disagree for once - having outrageous religious beliefs is one thing - telling a bloke he can 'fix' him thru his healing hands is another.

I dislike people as Dave and Steven Baldwin. Fair play if an epithany has solved their alcohol/drug addictions, but preaching on others not interested is wrong.

[Lee.]

To be honest, acting drunk or not acting, anybody who preaches their religion to others offends me. I personally don't like religion and am not religious myself, but I do however accept that many people feel the need for religion in their life. WHen people start harping on about it to others however, I feel quite uncomfortable and almost offended...

[WOMBAI]

We disagree for once - having outrageous religious beliefs is one thing - telling a bloke he can 'fix' him thru his healing hands is another.

I dislike people as Dave and Steven Baldwin. Fair play if an epithany has solved their alcohol/drug addictions, but preaching on others not interested is wrong.

Don't get me wrong - I don't condone what he said - but he clearly mean't no ill will - but it was very tactless - I think he will realise that and feel bad about it! Personally, I haven't witnessed him preaching - so can't comment on that!

[Stu]

He visibly pretends to be 'drunk'

If he's not promoting the physiologically intoxicating effects of his religion then he should not use the term 'drunk'

He might as well say:

'Off me ******in tits on our lord'

He can use whatever term he wants to describe how he feels - he's certainly far more articulate than some of the FMs on here. One can be "drunk" on fame, or success, or love or power, so why shouldn't Dave be "drunk" on the love of God, if the feeling of loving God makes him feel euphoric. He certainly doesn't have to justify himself to ANYONE least of all to plebs who wouldn't recognise a genuine emotion if it hit them in the face.
No, David and his group explicitly make clear that they get drunk on Jesus Juice. Not relaxed spiritual state, not meditative, not anything which bears comparison to anything other than alcohol and a definate booze intoxication. They claim to get drunk. Pissed. Bottled. Sloshed. And they act it all out, too.

Personally although it's riddiculous I do think he believes it himself. After all it is possible to frenzy yourself into a manic state through ritual without the aid of psychotropic substances as has been documented by various cultures and rituals throughout history. Of course it's all in ones head, then the person attributes it to their own personal Jesus [hey hey hey], simply substitute Jesus for X.

Of course those of us ... what's the term? Oh yeah, rationalists - know it's impossible. It's hillarious that people see it as being somehting that is open to debate. It's not a case of respecting someones beliefs or opening yourself up to possibilities. You just can't get drunk from reading The Bible. Sorry.

[BB_Eye]

It was the best substitute for actually giving the housemates alchohol and letting them have fun that BB could think of.

[Angus]

No, David and his group explicitly make clear that they get drunk on Jesus Juice. Not relaxed spiritual state, not meditative, not anything which bears comparison to anything other than alcohol and a definate booze intoxication. They claim to get drunk. Pissed. Bottled. Sloshed. And they act it all out, too.

Personally although it's riddiculous I do think he believes it himself. After all it is possible to frenzy yourself into a manic state through ritual without the aid of psychotropic substances as has been documented by various cultures and rituals throughout history. Of course it's all in ones head, then the person attributes it to their own personal Jesus [hey hey hey], simply substitute Jesus for X.

Of course those of us ... what's the term? Oh yeah, rationalists - know it's impossible. It's hillarious that people see it as being somehting that is open to debate. It's not a case of respecting someones beliefs or opening yourself up to possibilities. You just can't get drunk from reading The Bible. Sorry.

I'm not wasting my time debating with someone whose mind is so closed that they can't see any point of view but their own. I feel sorry for you, but can't be arsed explaining my point any further. For the record I do not follow any form of organised religion but I sure as hell respect the beliefs of others. You can no more DISPROVE religion than you can PROVE it, so why not just admit that and move on? Instead you assert your opinion as if it were a proven fact - talk about arrogant.

[Angus]

I'm not a big Dave fan or owt but in the spirit of fairness I said this in a different thread and I think it explains it.

I wouldn't waste your time on this lot. Like you, I'm not a Dave fan but to have a go at him because of his beliefs is low. Just because I don't subscribe to his beliefs, doesn't give me the right to ridicule him, especially as religious beliefs in general are based on concepts that can neither be proven or disproven, so it all boils down to a matter of personal opinion.

[Stu]

I'm not wasting my time debating with someone whose mind is so closed that they can't see any point of view but their own. I feel sorry for you, but can't be arsed explaining my point any further. For the record I do not follow any form of organised religion but I sure as hell respect the beliefs of others. You can no more DISPROVE religion than you can PROVE it, so why not just admit that and move on? Instead you assert your opinion as if it were a proven fact - talk about arrogant.
My mind is not closed. You just cannot get drunk on reading The Bible. See it's pretty simple, really.

You expanded the scope of this pretty considerably of your own volition. I was not talking about disproving religion. Well ... religion can be disproved ... but I will assume you meant to say spirituality. In which case why would somewhat of a spiritualist [me, you see] want to disprove any concept of spirituality?

You just cannot get drunk on The Bible. If that makes me close minded, then so be it. But I'm not sure why you are attempting to get me to 'admit' to a facet of an argument I was never arguing in the first place, along with lambasting me for trying to pass my opinion off as fact. I'm not passing opinion off as fact. I'm passing fact off as fact.

You cannot get drunk by reading The Bible. S'a fact, brah.

BTW, there is an invisible pixie spitting invisible spit right above your head right now. You can't disprove it looooooolz. Now respect my belief.

No. Because of course that's ****ing riddiculous. Isin't it. So stop prancing around on some high horse masquerading as an 'equality for all!~' horse demanding that people respect each others beliefs. I don't have to. I'm not obligated to. I don't respect his, I don't respect yours, and in turn I don't expect people to respect mine all the time. Sorry, but I still have one foot in the real world [false alarm, ILTRW - go back to bed]. The world you are proposing is one subject to absoloute chaos. One where we all have carte blanche to make up any old meritless bull**** our imaginations will allow and demand people grant us respect because you cannot disprove the madhat ideas put foward.

It's such a stupid, stupid argument people seem to want to forever put foward. I believe in [some sort of] god but I wouldn't dare say you cannot disprove it. It's just a silly argument.

[Claymores]

Don't get me wrong - I don't condone what he said - but he clearly mean't no ill will - but it was very tactless - I think he will realise that and feel bad about it! Personally, I haven't witnessed him preaching - so can't comment on that!

Fair play to you! He hasn't really preached on other HMs as you correctly say. But if he get's the bible for 30 minutes per day, sod off and go read it Dave rather than subject others to it as he did the other day (dong a Steven Baldwin)

He's also said he's gone in to spread the love of our Lord on many occasions - shove a Muslim or Jewish in. As Happyland said, shoving it down yer throat is quite offensive. If it solved hisalcohol/drug addiction then fine - but we don't need the epithany.

[JustSkipIt]

My mind is not closed. You just cannot get drunk on reading The Bible. See it's pretty simple, really....

Bloody hell - for millennia the greatest philosophical minds have sat around and debated what is and isn't possible.
The poor buggers wasted their time - they should have just sat on their hams and waited for you to come along and tell them :bouncy:

[WOMBAI]

Bloody hell - for millennia the greatest philosophical minds have sat around and debated what is and isn't possible.
The poor buggers wasted their time - they should have just sat on their hams and waited for you to come along and tell them :bouncy:

This! (I tried to keep out of it - but that is a very logical point!) :joker:

[Stu]

Bloody hell - for millennia the greatest philosophical minds have sat around and debated what is and isn't possible.
The poor buggers wasted their time - they should have just sat on their hams and waited for you to come along and tell them :bouncy:
I was under the impression that most grown men need not be told you cannot get intoxicated from reading a book.

Maybe things are different around your area of this wonderful cosmic space we inhabit.

[JustSkipIt]

Fair play to you! He hasn't really preached on other HMs as you correctly say. But if he get's the bible for 30 minutes per day, sod off and go read it Dave rather than subject others to it as he did the other day (dong a Steven Baldwin)

He's also said he's gone in to spread the love of our Lord on many occasions - shove a Muslim or Jewish in. As Happyland said, shoving it down yer throat is quite offensive. If it solved hisalcohol/drug addiction then fine - but we don't need the epithany.

Perhaps it's like ex-smokers - they find something that helps them quit and they want to let all smokers know about it.

Dave has found something that enriches his life and makes him feel fabulous - he wants other people for feel that way too, which is really quite sweet.

[vesavius]

I was under the impression that most grown men need not be told you cannot get intoxicated from reading a book.

Maybe things are different around your area of this wonderful cosmic space we inhabit.

I don't believe David or this particular case, but it must be nice to have the inside track on the universe, how it works, and whats possible.

When can we expect your first book?

[Stu]

This! (I tried to keep out of it - but that is a very logical point!) :joker:
Since you were so eager to quote it, what is the point of his post then? To say that it was me who after all this time came to the revelatory conclusion that you cannot get drunk from reading?

Obviously not, because everyone and their mother knows this.

So what was his point, then? Because I was expecting your involvment sooner or later. You didn't need an excuse. You could have just dropped a ':hugesmile:' or something.

[Stu]

I don't believe David or this particular case, but it must be nice to have the inside track on the universe, how it works, and whats possible.

When can we expect your first book?
I can't seem to finish the thing. Every time I try and write more I feel dizzy and am struck by the urge to have a go on the aul kareokey cajigger.

Now since you decided to drop in on the party, can you explain in your own words why you think I have the inside track on the universe? Because the point you are putting foward doesn't seem to have anything to do with the post you quoted, leaving poor befuddle brains here out in the cold.

Good lad.

[BB_Eye]

I actually believe intoxication is very possible and obtainable without the use of illicit substances or copious amounts of alcohol. But reading the Bible is the last place I would look.

[vesavius]

I can't seem to finish the thing. Every time I try and write more I feel dizzy and am struck by the urge to have a go on the aul kareokey cajigger.

Now since you decided to drop in on the party, can you explain in your own words why you think I have the inside track on the universe? Because the point you are putting foward doesn't seem to have anything to do with the post you quoted, leaving poor befuddle brains here out in the cold.

Good lad.

You need it explaining?

Well... ok...

The point I am putting forward, as you say, is that you make definitive statements about what and what isnt possible and I think you know sh1t all about anything.

And thanks, I try :)

[Claymores]

Perhaps it's like ex-smokers - they find something that helps them quit and they want to let all smokers know about it.

Dave has found something that enriches his life and makes him feel fabulous - he wants other people for feel that way too, which is really quite sweet.

This is a glib post - please don't take it to heart:

I'd rather smoke 40 a day than Dave's religion - maybe he can put his hands on me to make me quit.

I find something about the Dave/Steven crapola very pernicious - fine for them to leave their former addictions behind but do they really have to try indocrinate the rest of the world to their new addiction.

[Claymores]

I actually believe intoxication is very possible and obtainable without the use of illicit substances or copious amounts of alcohol. But reading the Bible is the last place I would look.

Let me into the secret :joker:

[Stu]

You need it explaining?

Well... ok...

The point I am putting forward, as you say, is that you make definitive statements about what and what isnt possible and I think you know sh1t all about anything.

And thanks, I try :)
Statements being plural. In this thread I made one definitive statement. That being that intoxication in the manner that Dave claims to experience through reading pages of The Bible is impossible.

So no, I'm afriad I still do not understand this rather odd attack. Perhaps master would like another go at it ...

[WOMBAI]

Since you were so eager to quote it, what is the point of his post then? To say that it was me who after all this time came to the revelatory conclusion that you cannot get drunk from reading?

Obviously not, because everyone and their mother knows this.

So what was his point, then? Because I was expecting your involvment sooner or later. You didn't need an excuse. You could have just dropped a ':hugesmile:' or something.

Not literally, of course, - but psychologically - maybe! As another poster said - it is about his state of mind (Euphoria) - and as strange as it may seem to the rest of us - if he says that is how it makes him feel - then so be it!

I believe the previous poster was referring to the existence of a higher power and/or how one's beliefs can affect one's mind - it is still a very mis-understood phenomenon - no definitive proof one way or the other! You believe or you don't!

[vesavius]

Statements being plural. In this thread I made one definitive statement. That being that intoxication in the manner that Dave claims to experience through reading pages of The Bible is impossible.

So no, I'm afriad I still do not understand this rather odd attack. Perhaps master would like another go at it ...

Nah, you get it I think, even at your age. I doubt the use of a plural confused even you, but I get thats the only defense that you could grasp for.

Anyhow, I have said what I needed to say, I will leave you to your moment in the spotlight :)

[Stu]

Not literally, of course, - but psychologically - maybe! As another poster said - it is about his state of mind (Euphoria) - and as strange as it may seem to the rest of us - if he says that is how it makes him feel - then so be it!

I believe the previous poster was referring to the existence of a higher power and/or how one's beliefs can affect one's mind - it is still a very mis-understood phenomenon - no definitive proof one way or the other! You believe or you don't!
That has nothing to do with what I asked?

Nevertheless, I understand what you are saying, but again David doesn't just claim to get an altered state from reading The Bible, he claims to get drunk.

Compare it to jogging. People obtain an altered, 'higher' state through jogging all the time. But it's just simple brain chemistry in action. People getting high off jogging in that regard are fine. However if you go out for a jog and stagger back with half your clothes missing in the midst of an 80's revivalist sing along, people may just think you are full of ****.

And that's exactly what these Christian Sloshfests David is involved with are about. They claim to get drunk from The Bible. They don't sit and meditate. By **** they party on with the power of the lord.

EDIT : See post below for more.

[Julie10]

Don't people recognise metaphor when they see it? - being drunk on the holy spirit is Dave's way of saying he is filled with the love of God (there are many references to being filled with the holy spirit in the bible and some denominations actively practice rituals designed to put its followers in a state of euphoria very similar to intoxication). If people in the house are sick and tired of hearing him talk about God, then why don't they have the guts to tell him to **** instead of bitching about him behind his back?

Personally, I nod off every time Nathan, Ife, Josie, Scabby, Sidekick or JJ open their mouths, so perhaps they should be more tolerant as they are deadly bores themselves.



Yes but he actually sways, slurs his words looks like hes about to burp and slouches in his chair like he has had a skinful.

[Stu]

Nah, you get it I think, even at your age. I doubt the use of a plural confused even you, but I get thats the only defense that you could grasp for.

Anyhow, I have said what I needed to say, I will leave you to your moment in the spotlight :)
Defence against what exactly? Because I still have no idea what you are trying to say, so I am alas completely incapable of defending **** from sugar.

From what I gather my punishment for putting foward the maverick idea that one cannot get drunk from The Bible is to be told by various people that I am clueless, up my own ass, arrogant, and full of ****? Only on TiBB, baby.

So do please explain. I just love it when people claim I do not have a defence and then play the classic 'I'm leaving it all to you coz I just happened to get bored of the argument at this very moment lolz' card.

You don't think I have been here with better posters before? It's a shameless attempt to either have the last word yourself, or make me look like an attention seeking nimrod if I reply. It's designed as a no win situation for the person it's directed at.

Nobody suddenly feels the urge to let everyone know they are leaving a thread. No, this is just the forum equivalent of donning a miniskirt, slapping on some eyeliner, unleashing the pepper spray, and legging it to the nearest taxi cab.

:wink:

[Peter Plunker]

Blimey you lot have been busy.

Right, let's clear up a few smaller things first.

Dave does not have a 'church' or people that follow him. He's a full time minister that goes around the country and abroad ministering in churches. As far as I'm concerned there is only one church anyway, it's like a tree with loads of branches.

I've known Dave for over ten years. The intoxication he speaks of has only increased over the last four years but has been spoken of in the church for two thousand years. The bible makes many references to God's presence being like wine and in the book of acts on the day of pentecost the early church founders came rolling out of the 'upper room' and people thought they were drunk, the response was 'These men are not drunk, as you suppose. It's only nine in the morning!' acts 12:15.
The intoxicating presence of God does indeed feel like being drunk or indeed stoned. It isn't mass hysteria or something that is whipped up. Sometimes I feel it just doing my job, or washing the dishes, or driving my car.
Psalm 16;11 says ' You have made known to me the path of life;
you will fill me with joy in your presence,
with eternal pleasures at your right hand.'

1 Corinthians 2:14
14The man without the Spirit does not accept the things that come from the Spirit of God, for they are foolishness to him, and he cannot understand them, because they are spiritually discerned.

Dave is not a preachy guy, he's just himself. You cannot however separate Dave from God. Nor should people try to. It's like accusing John James of preaching about Australia becuase he has an Oz accent.

If you have real axe to grind then contact Endemol with your concerns, don't throw up all kinds of dispicable accusations that bear no truth.

No doubt people will still criticise him and your perfectly entitled to do that. My faith (and Dave's) is rugged enough to withstand petty criticism. Just remember, you don't know him, I do.

[Stu]

You feel drunk at work? That's incredibly irresponsible of God. I would sue him, if I were you.

Seriously though, honest question : Why - as a Christian - do you feel such a small minority of you feel this intoxicating prescence? After all we have what ... a billion ... Christians in the world? Including millions upon millions of the fundamentalist strain.

Has the man upstairs not got enough of the Jesus Juice to go around?

[billy123]

intoxication of christ is hardly new as peter says.
this is the same thing.
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[Peter Plunker]

You feel drunk at work? That's incredibly irresponsible of God. I would sue him, if I were you.

Seriously though, honest question : Why - as a Christian - do you feel such a small minority of you feel this intoxicating prescence? After all we have what ... a billion ... Christians in the world? Including millions upon millions of the fundamentalist strain.

Has the man upstairs not got enough of the Jesus Juice to go around?

No, it's because so much of the church is bound up in tradition and man's way of thinking that they've missed what's in the Bible (including the fundies). So many church leaders preach about being sombre and reverant and are afraid to experience what's in the Bible. Once you've tasted the goodness of God there's no going back. To me NOT enjoying God is irreverant!
Plenty of Jesus juice to go around.

[Stu]

intoxication of christ is hardly new as peter says.
this is the same thing.
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The reality is a whole lot less cooler :

215C-tadRmk

PRAISE!

*hic*

[Stu]

Once you've tasted the goodness of God there's no going back.
Now I know why we coined the term 'Holy ****!'.

That's a great tagline. Works much better than 'Probably The Best Deity In The World'

[WOMBAI]

No, it's because so much of the church is bound up in tradition and man's way of thinking that they've missed what's in the Bible (including the fundies). So many church leaders preach about being sombre and reverant and are afraid to experience what's in the Bible. Once you've tasted the goodness of God there's no going back. To me NOT enjoying God is irreverant!
Plenty of Jesus juice to go around.

:thumbs:

[Claymores]

Blimey you lot have been busy.

Right, let's clear up a few smaller things first.

Dave does not have a 'church' or people that follow him. He's a full time minister that goes around the country and abroad ministering in churches. As far as I'm concerned there is only one church anyway, it's like a tree with loads of branches.

I've known Dave for over ten years. The intoxication he speaks of has only increased over the last four years but has been spoken of in the church for two thousand years. The bible makes many references to God's presence being like wine and in the book of acts on the day of pentecost the early church founders came rolling out of the 'upper room' and people thought they were drunk, the response was 'These men are not drunk, as you suppose. It's only nine in the morning!' acts 12:15.
The intoxicating presence of God does indeed feel like being drunk or indeed stoned. It isn't mass hysteria or something that is whipped up. Sometimes I feel it just doing my job, or washing the dishes, or driving my car.
Psalm 16;11 says ' You have made known to me the path of life;
you will fill me with joy in your presence,
with eternal pleasures at your right hand.'

1 Corinthians 2:14
14The man without the Spirit does not accept the things that come from the Spirit of God, for they are foolishness to him, and he cannot understand them, because they are spiritually discerned.



If you have real axe to grind then contact Endemol with your concerns, don't throw up all kinds of dispicable accusations that bear no truth.

No doubt people will still criticise him and your perfectly entitled to do that. My faith (and Dave's) is rugged enough to withstand petty criticism. Just remember, you don't know him, I do.

Super

"Dave is not a preachy guy, he's just himself. You cannot however separate Dave from God. Nor should people try to. It's like accusing John James of preaching about Australia becuase he has an Oz accent."

You can separate me from Scotland and I'll still have a Scottish accent but I'll not blow about being drunk on the Lord or wear a monk or kilt costume.

"The intoxication he speaks of has only increased over the last four years but has been spoken of in the church for two thousand years. The bible makes many references"

But he has has to slur words when acting drunk :conf:

"If you have real axe to grind then contact Endemol with your concerns"

Not concerned at all - think he's an idiot who has certainly pushed many viewers away from this Lord malarky

You will go to Heaven Peter and I'll be worm food

[billy123]

The reality is a whole lot less cooler :

215C-tadRmk

PRAISE!

*hic*
yes i know that is the reality but it still the same effect drunk on god and its readily accepted people dont bat an eye at them.

[Joelle.]

I mean I like Dave at times but the whole drunk on the holy spirit bull**** really irritates me. It does look very fake (I mean how the hell can you get drunk from reading). I bet he offends a lot of Christians watching as well, he is basically making a laughing stock of religion.

[dudus]

After reading the bible. Dave acts like a 12 year old who has drunk a mouthfull of shandy and is walking around saying "I'm REALLY drunk". It looks so fake

I can't stand people who fake being pissed. Its like whats the point, its something that daft kids do not a grown man. KICK DAVID OUT NOW!

[Stu]

yes i know that is the reality but it still the same effect drunk on god and its readily accepted people dont bat an eye at them.
I was reffering of course to the exchange of gaudy, uninspired Christian music with the thumping electronic beats of the revised video you posted.

[Claymores]

I mean I like Dave at times but the whole drunk on the holy spirit bull**** really irritates me. It does look very fake (I mean how the hell can you get drunk from reading). I bet he offends a lot of Christians watching as well, he is basically making a laughing stock of religion.

:thumbs:

I think so too

[Angus]

No, it's because so much of the church is bound up in tradition and man's way of thinking that they've missed what's in the Bible (including the fundies). So many church leaders preach about being sombre and reverant and are afraid to experience what's in the Bible. Once you've tasted the goodness of God there's no going back. To me NOT enjoying God is irreverant!
Plenty of Jesus juice to go around.

I wouldn't waste your time - some people will never get it. Just because I have not experienced such a phenomenon does not mean it does not exist.

[Peter Plunker]

I mean I like Dave at times but the whole drunk on the holy spirit bull**** really irritates me. It does look very fake (I mean how the hell can you get drunk from reading). I bet he offends a lot of Christians watching as well, he is basically making a laughing stock of religion.

I can't stand people who fake being pissed. Its like whats the point, its something that daft kids do not a grown man. KICK DAVID OUT NOW!


Did you read my post on page 4 or did you just get half way through the thread and just replied anyway?

[dudus]

Drunk on the holy spirit? Whatever next? NUTTERS

[Stu]

You know for the record if you could get intoxicated from God, I think Alcohol is perhaps the last thing it would feel like, considering how creatively and spiritualy bankrupt that particular buzz feels when compared to certain other drugs.. In fact, if one had a pantheist view of things, as I sort of do actually, you can get stoned off God.

http://www.misterseed.com/LATESTnews/2006%20FOLDER/SEPTEMBER%202006/weekphotos1.jpg

:hugesmile:

[Claymores]

Did you read my post on page 4 or did you just get half way through the thread and just replied anyway?

Are you picking a fight? is this what the Lord woud do?

[dudus]

Did you read my post on page 4 or did you just get half way through the thread and just replied anyway?

I didn't even bother reading the first post, got halfway through it and fell asleep. Thanks for the heads up though:xyxwave:

[dudus]

You know for the record if you could get intoxicated from God, I think Alcohol is perhaps the last thing it would feel like, considering how creatively and spiritualy bankrupt that particular buzz feels when compared to certain other drugs.. In fact, if one had a pantheist view of things, as I sort of do actually, you can get stoned off God.

http://www.misterseed.com/LATESTnews/2006%20FOLDER/SEPTEMBER%202006/weekphotos1.jpg

:hugesmile:

Rahtid the babylon scum ah destroy my GODS holy plant:bawling: ONE DAY BABYLON SHALL FALL JAH RASTAFARI

[Peter Plunker]

Weed is vile when compared to God.
PS, my bedroom used to look like that.

[flamingGalah!]

It seems Dave & his "friends" who all believe in this bull**** are all ex druggies & alchoholics, it is a well known fact that even excessive use of "weed" makes you incredibly thick...

It is nonsense, tosh, mumbo jumbo & anyone that thinks it is true really needs to get out more...

[Claymores]

Drunk on the holy spirit? Whatever next? NUTTERS

It's called Absynthe - made by Belgian Monks

[flamingGalah!]

Weed is vile when compared to God.
PS, my bedroom used to look like that.

I rest my case... ;)

[cazzy555]

Dave does act more like he's stoned though than drunk

[Claymores]

Weed is vile when compared to God.
PS, my bedroom used to look like that.

Was Steven Baldwin your fave in CBB this year perchance? He used to have an alcohol/drug dependance before ge got his god addiction

[President]

Dave's a disgrace to the Christian community. He isn't a real Christian. He's taking the piss out of the REAL Christianity beliefs with his stupid "drunk on holy spirit" act :mad:

[Claymores]

Dave's a disgrace to the Christian community. He isn't a real Christian. He's taking the piss out of the REAL Christianity beliefs with his stupid "drunk on holy spirit" act :mad:

What would Gavin say?????

[Stu]

It seems Dave & his "friends" who all believe in this bull**** are all ex druggies & alchoholics, it is a well known fact that even excessive use of "weed" makes you incredibly thick...

It is nonsense, tosh, mumbo jumbo & anyone that thinks it is true really needs to get out more...
There is no proven, widely accepted link between the use of Tetrahydrocannabinol, the active ingredient in Cannabis, and brain damage.

Using Cannabis does not make you thick. Thick people using Cannabis makes them thick. Er. They were always going to be stupid.

[flamingGalah!]

There is no proven, widely accepted link between the use of Tetrahydrocannabinol, the active ingredient in Cannabis, and brain damage.

Using Cannabis does not make you thick. Thick people using Cannabis makes them thick. Er. They were always going to be stupid.

There are links. People who excessively smoke dope end up dopes themselves, I have seen it happen to people I know...

[JustSkipIt]

Dave's a disgrace to the Christian community. He isn't a real Christian. He's taking the piss out of the REAL Christianity beliefs with his stupid "drunk on holy spirit" act :mad:

Speaking as a Catholic - I sometimes roll my eyes at Dave's antics, but I've never been offended by them.
I'm far more disturbed by the amount of people out there who grasp at the most tentative opportunities to spew their disrespect at Christianity. And they call Dave a bigot :nono:

There will be some who will take offence at Dave - but they don't speak for everyone any more than I do.

[Shiner]

Your God is not my God white bwoy
JAH BLESS

I'm sorry but doesn't the Rastafari movement encompasses themes such as the spiritual use of cannabis?


Can you see where I'm going with this?

[BB_Eye]

There are links. People who excessively smoke dope end up dopes themselves, I have seen it happen to people I know...

Oh right... anecdotal evidence.

[Stu]

There are links. People who excessively smoke dope end up dopes themselves, I have seen it happen to people I know...
So it's the I Had This Mate Who ______ hypothesis?

Oh, okay then.

[Claymores]

Oh right... anecdotal evidence.

I prefer speed-heads myself BB Eye - they amuse me more!

[BB_Eye]

I prefer speed-heads myself BB Eye - they amuse me more!

I only ever knew one speedhead. He said the comedown was the worst of any drug. Don't take that as gospel though. :tongue:

[Stu]

I'm sorry but doesn't the Rastafari movement encompasses themes such as the spiritual use of cannabis?


Can you see where I'm going with this?
It also endorses such messages as 'Judge Not' and 'One Love'.

Unfortuneately some of the more ... shall we say passionate [take the nutty Bobo Ashanti sect] followers of what would otherwise be a refreshing, wholly positive spiritual movement seem to have forgotten about that, instead using it as a vehicle for homophobia [because gay people caused Africa's _____] and reverse racism [because the whites treated us like crap and now it's our turn].

Such a shame. The rasta faith fascinates me.

[dudus]

I'm sorry but doesn't the Rastafari movement encompasses themes such as the spiritual use of cannabis?


Can you see where I'm going with this?

Who said me have a problem with ganja rudeboy? ME AH LOVE IT, ME SMOKE TEN SPLIFF A DAY JAH BLESS

[Claymores]

I only ever knew one speedhead. He said the comedown was the worst of any drug. Don't take that as gospel though. :tongue:

Don't mention gospel or Dave's long-term pal will quote us from the bible :joker:

[Raph]

I don't think it's 'fake'. I think it's retarded.

[Stu]

Who said me have a problem with ganja rudeboy? ME AH LOVE IT, ME SMOKE TEN SPLIFF A DAY JAH BLESS
And it's caused you to become a walking, talking cliche?

Didn't Haile Selassie I deny his divinity? And didn't he worship Christ as the Messiah as the Ethiopian Orthodox Christian that he was? So he was worshipping the son of ... himself ... who was also the ... same person as him and the father of the son he was worshipping who is also him?

~Religion.

[Claymores]

I only ever knew one speedhead. He said the comedown was the worst of any drug. Don't take that as gospel though. :tongue:

And the lord god said : let not though comest down and take amphetimine sulphate - Corininthians 14:13 (3 all at half time)

[flamingGalah!]

Oh right... anecdotal evidence.

So it's the I Had This Mate Who ______ hypothesis?

Oh, okay then.

Err no, I said there were links, to which you replied there was no definitive proof...

I only mentioned about people who are constantly stoned as you obviously don't know many dope heads if you think it doesn't effect your brain at all...

[Shiner]

Who said me have a problem with ganja rudeboy? ME AH LOVE IT, ME SMOKE TEN SPLIFF A DAY JAH BLESS

Well (assuming for a moment that you aren't a troll) I was referring to this....

Drunk on the holy spirit? Whatever next? NUTTERS

Pot, kettle, black? :nono:

[Stu]

Err no, I said there were links, to which you replied there was no definitive proof...

I only mentioned about people who are constantly stoned as you obviously don't know many dope heads if you think it doesn't effect your brain at all...
I smoke daily, have done so for years, and in that time I have done a lot of good in my life. It's all down to the person. There is no widely accepted link between THC and brain damage. I can smoke as little or as much as I want and I'm totally cool with it considering it's become [a wholly positive] part of my life. My reactions are sometimes delayed when I am sufficently cained, but only because I was too busy marvelling at the creative outpour inside my brain.

As a matter of fact, I think the vast majority of posts I have made on this forum have been made within a few hours or during said smoking.

Any misconceptions are long standing myths stemming from an ill fated American government experiment where they gave so much dope smoke to Monkeys via facemasks that the Monkeys brain cells died off as a result of oxygen deprivation.

[WOMBAI]

I mean I like Dave at times but the whole drunk on the holy spirit bull**** really irritates me. It does look very fake (I mean how the hell can you get drunk from reading). I bet he offends a lot of Christians watching as well, he is basically making a laughing stock of religion.

ffs - watch the video directly above you and you will see that it is not unusual behaviour for people who share his beliefs!

[Shasown]

If Dave and his mates get high on the words of the Lord just for the sake of getting high, isnt that just another form of self abuse?

[BOOSH]

Drunk on the holy spirit - I sometimes think that Dave has sneaked-in some Absinthe instead of mouthwash.

(both are green coloured)

:laugh2:
I love Dave but this could be true!

[BOOSH]

Don't people recognise metaphor when they see it? - being drunk on the holy spirit is Dave's way of saying he is filled with the love of God (there are many references to being filled with the holy spirit in the bible and some denominations actively practice rituals designed to put its followers in a state of euphoria very similar to intoxication). If people in the house are sick and tired of hearing him talk about God, then why don't they have the guts to tell him to **** instead of bitching about him behind his back?

Personally, I nod off every time Nathan, Ife, Josie, Scabby, Sidekick or JJ open their mouths, so perhaps they should be more tolerant as they are deadly bores themselves.

This!!!!!!! :) Thank you!

[Claymores]

:laugh2:
I love Dave but this could be true!

Yer an evil lass Rach - that comment went woosh over most's heads but you've heard of Absynthe made by Belgian Monks

[discotheque]

http://endtimespropheticwords.wordpress.com/2010/02/14/new-mystics-david-vaughan-emerge-wales-and-john-crowder-at-sloshfest/

Interesting stuff about Dave.

[bronaaaa]

Does he ACTUALLY get drunk on it, or what? :s

[Peter Plunker]

http://endtimespropheticwords.wordpress.com/2010/02/14/new-mystics-david-vaughan-emerge-wales-and-john-crowder-at-sloshfest/

Interesting stuff about Dave.

Those guys are loons, they hate everyone. I've had lengthy discussions with them.

[Claymores]

http://endtimespropheticwords.wordpress.com/2010/02/14/new-mystics-david-vaughan-emerge-wales-and-john-crowder-at-sloshfest/

Interesting stuff about Dave.

Peter used to smoke the grass with him before they found god so better to question Peter than rely on 2nd hand stuff!

[AtomicKitty]

After reading the bible. Dave acts like a 12 year old who has drunk a mouthfull of shandy and is walking around saying "I'm REALLY drunk". It looks so fake

lmao that mental image was so cute.

anyhow... dave.. can't stand him get him out enough with the religious crap and him being so closed minded to gay marriage

[Jezzy]

Wouldn't it be awesome tho, if he really *did* grow Steve's legs back?:shocked:

[Peter Plunker]

Actualy, that endtimespathetic page was lifted word for word from the Sun newspaper who were really supportive.

[Peter Plunker]

Peter used to smoke the grass with him before they found god so better to question Peter than rely on 2nd hand stuff!

My name is also David, I chose Peter Plunker as it was my fave kid's book. :D

[WOMBAI]

http://endtimespropheticwords.wordpress.com/2010/02/14/new-mystics-david-vaughan-emerge-wales-and-john-crowder-at-sloshfest/

Interesting stuff about Dave.

Makes interesting reading - so he certainly isn't faking it for bb - as people imply!

[Claymores]

Those guys are loons, they hate everyone. I've had lengthy discussions with them.

I can believe this Peter - any transcripts for us to enjoy?

[Shiner]

I smoke daily, have done so for years, and in that time I have done a lot of good in my life. It's all down to the person. There is no widely accepted link between THC and brain damage. I can smoke as little or as much as I want and I'm totally cool with it considering it's become [a wholly positive] part of my life. My reactions are sometimes delayed when I am sufficently cained, but only because I was too busy marvelling at the creative outpour inside my brain.

As a matter of fact, I think the vast majority of posts I have made on this forum have been made within a few hours or during said smoking.

Any misconceptions are long standing myths stemming from an ill fated American government experiment where they gave so much dope smoke to Monkeys via facemasks that the Monkeys brain cells died off as a result of oxygen deprivation.

I used to be exactly the same until my brother came down with something pretty horrific after a couple of weeks in the 'Dam. That was about 15 years ago and it still impacts his daily life to this day. It's easy to say "it won't happen to me" because experts say things that concur with my standpoint but until you see it first hand you can't comprehend the horror it induces. You simply can't afford to risk your sanity over looking cool to your mates. To be on the safe side I quit too. For me it involved a complete lifestyle change and a new set of peers. I don't miss it now.

[Shasown]

I could go worse Shas!

Nah you couldnt, have heard all the engerlish ones over the last few days.

Anyways, back to the topic, even if Dave does not get drunk as such, and he simply feels Euphoric, or simply gets a little light headed, knowing that the god he believes in loves him and everyone so much, is he really harming anybody, isnt he just being a little annoying?

[Stu]

I used to be exactly the same until my brother came down with something pretty horrific after a couple of weeks in the 'Dam. That was about 15 years ago and it still impacts his daily life to this day. It's easy to say "it won't happen to me" because experts say things that concur with my standpoint but until you see it first hand you can't comprehend the horror it induces. You simply can't afford to risk your sanity over looking cool to your mates. To be on the safe side I quit too. For me it involved a complete lifestyle change and a new set of peers. I don't miss it now.
I don't smoke to look cool in front of my mates. Don't be riddiculous.

I sympathise with your view but your brother litteraly is a rare exception. I'm not going to stop smoking weed because I could come down with something horrific. Just like I'm not giving up driving because people crash. Just like I'm not giving up supermarket food because I could have a fatal reaction to a chemical in the packaging. Just like I'm not selling my dog because he could rip my testicles off with his teeth in the middle of the night.

You could use your argument for so many things it's insane. A friend of my dads went insane from drinking. He must have had an underlying disorder or something but one night he drank not too much but not too little and the guy just snapped. Insulted all the guests, ripped his shirt off, started reminding my dad of strange stories and events they shared but that in reality never happened.

But it's riddicuous of me or anyone else to stop drinking because of that.

The world you are putting foward is one that has padded walls, cotton floors, very few recreational activities, and people who live a whole lot longer with a whole lot less to live for.

You were absoloutely right to quit though, considering the blood relation/genetics and all that. Smart move.

[Claymores]

He already has.

I sent you a PM David - see what it says

[Claymores]

Nah you couldnt, have heard all the engerlish ones over the last few days.

Anyways, back to the topic, even if Dave does not get drunk as such, and he simply feels Euphoric, or simply gets a little light headed, knowing that the god he believes in loves him and everyone so much, is he really harming anybody, isnt he just being a little annoying?

Isn't this a yes Terry and we're just playing?

[dudus]

No, that obvious fake rasta Dudus .

Ah well it were fun while it lasted:joker:

[Peter Plunker]

Ah well it were fun while it lasted:joker:
Dude, you gave in so quickly! :D

[Shasown]

Isn't this a yes Terry and we're just playing?

To be Frank mate, I think its pretty harmless, to some it will be a mild annoyance, each to their own I suppose so long as the hate doesnt get out of hand. If people do let it get to them, thats their problem.

[dudus]

Dude, you gave in so quickly! :D

Lol I guess I didnt expect to get rumbled so quick:joker:

[Julie10]

Lol I guess I didnt expect to get rumbled so quick:joker:

As soon as I read your first post I knew you were a sad wind up trying to wind up people with no self control ready to believe everything they see on here because its suits there agenda.

[BOOSH]

Yer an evil lass Rach - that comment went woosh over most's heads but you've heard of Absynthe made by Belgian Monks

I've been trying to find green absynthe for years!!!

[Shiner]

I don't smoke to look cool in front of my mates. Don't be riddiculous.

I sympathise with your view but your brother litteraly is a rare exception. I'm not going to stop smoking weed because I could come down with something horrific. Just like I'm not giving up driving because people crash. Just like I'm not giving up supermarket food because I could have a fatal reaction to a chemical in the packaging. Just like I'm not selling my dog because he could rip my testicles off with his teeth in the middle of the night.

You could use your argument for so many things it's insane. A friend of my dads went insane from drinking. He must have had an underlying disorder or something but one night he drank not too much but not too little and the guy just snapped. Insulted all the guests, ripped his shirt off, started reminding my dad of strange stories and events they shared but that in reality never happened.

But it's riddicuous of me or anyone else to stop drinking because of that.

The world you are putting foward is one that has padded walls, cotton floors, very few recreational activities, and people who live a whole lot longer with a whole lot less to live for.

You were absoloutely right to quit though, considering the blood relation/genetics and all that. Smart move.

Then why do you do it? :D

Hey man I'm not preaching. It makes no diff to me what you do. All I'm saying is I used to be exactly the same and was fine with it too. One day though when you're ready you'll quit too (I'm presuming you don't see yourself as one of those sad old wasters that still smokes weed). And once it's fully out of your system the mist will lift and you life will change for the better no matter how peachy you think it is right now.

Oh and as for living in a cotton wool world? I meet dangerhead on everyday at silly speeds but have luxury of sharpness of mind to deal with it in a split second.

Roll a fat one on me.
Peace out.

[Stu]

Then why do you do it? :D

Hey man I'm not preaching. It makes no diff to me what you do. All I'm saying is I used to be exactly the same and was fine with it too. One day though when you're ready you'll quit too (I'm presuming you don't see yourself as one of those sad old wasters that still smokes weed). And once it's fully out of your system the mist will lift and you life will change for the better no matter how peachy you think it is right now.

Oh and as for living in a cotton wool world? I meet dangerhead on everyday at silly speeds but have luxury of sharpness of mind to deal with it in a split second.

Roll a fat one on me.
Peace out.
It's a shame that those tip top, sober braincells of yours could not respond to all my point destroying comments I made in the post you quoted. I really hope you shut off the computer. I had dis mate who had an electric shock, innit, so to be on the safe side I'm typing myself with rubber gloves.

You are such a cliche. I'm so tired of hearing of you and your ilk. 'I made the right choice and stopped, and some day you will too, and you will be super and sober JUST LIKE ME!'.

Why don't you treat Alcohol the same way? Is that also a triviality you grow out of? Are all adult drinkers sad old wasters? No? Why?

You are basically tarring all weed smokers with the same brush. You are arguing based on nothing but your own ancedotal evidence. There's ... there's nothing too it. I can't even argue back the riddiculous points you are putting foward.

And why do I smoke weed? Because I enjoy the state of mind and it's the one drug that has brought me nothing but positives in the past four or five years. My family has a history of alcoholism and I were a right little bugger when I was a boozer.

But hey I grew out of Alcohol and now I have the foresight to be a preachy, patronizing ol' asshole to others who drink responsibly and still have a healthy relationship with the drug.

I'm just like you.

Enjoy.

[BJ]

Lol I'm pretty certain Dave has been doing this long before January

Yes - and it was fake then too

[oddballmisfitsFTW]

when dave gets high on the love of our lord its his way of saying he is horny and has an erection

when he says about feeling all warm in his belly thats his jesus juice

then he finishes off by delivering the semen on the mound

[ange7]

Dave said "I'm Huffing and puffing the word of god" when asked what he was doing.

I think that while he reads he over breathes to the point of Hyperventilation. That could bring a sort of euphoria / drunkenness. Either way he claimed he could cure cancer just by 'rubbing away' the tumors. If you don't believe him he said he had it on video ( lol ... beee tah Max ). This was enough for me to hate him. To make a claim like this to people at the lowest and most vulnerable and possibly imply that they don't need fancy science with it's chemotherapy, radiation therapy, surgery. Nah let a dude called Dave huff and puff, then 'rub' your malignant cancer away. TWAT.

[supergirthuk]

Maybe he just need new reading glasses. I know my head get fuzzy when I need a new prescription. Lets face it he aint the brightest star in the firmament, is he?

[paper-cut-exit]

Footage of dave drunk on the holy spirit

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[ange7]

Footage of dave drunk on the holy spirit

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what a w@nker that guy is
ta for the post

[flamingGalah!]

I smoke daily, have done so for years, and in that time I have done a lot of good in my life. It's all down to the person. There is no widely accepted link between THC and brain damage. I can smoke as little or as much as I want and I'm totally cool with it considering it's become [a wholly positive] part of my life. My reactions are sometimes delayed when I am sufficently cained, but only because I was too busy marvelling at the creative outpour inside my brain.

As a matter of fact, I think the vast majority of posts I have made on this forum have been made within a few hours or during said smoking.

Any misconceptions are long standing myths stemming from an ill fated American government experiment where they gave so much dope smoke to Monkeys via facemasks that the Monkeys brain cells died off as a result of oxygen deprivation.

Ah, I see... Well as a regular smoker of the stuff you are bound to be biased are you not? I completely disagree & think excessive use DOES damage you & will harm you far more than normal tobacco...

Misconceptions as you call them are not myths, you simply don't believe them or don't want to believe them...

Here are a list of some of the side effects which are proven when smoking excessive amounts of cannabis:

Enhanced cancer risk
Decrease in testosterone levels and lower sperm counts for men
Increase in testosterone levels for women and increased risk of infertility
Diminished or extinguished sexual pleasure
Psychological dependence requiring more of the drug to get the same effect
Sleepiness
Difficulty keeping track of time, impaired or reduced short-term memory
Reduced ability to perform tasks requiring concentration and coordination,
such as driving a car
Increased heart rate
Potential cardiac dangers for those with preexisting heart disease
Bloodshot eyes
Dry mouth and throat
Decreased social inhibitions
Paranoia, hallucinations
Impaired or reduced short-term memory
Impaired or reduced comprehension
Altered motivation and cognition, making the acquisition of new information difficult
Paranoia
Psychological dependence
Impairments in learning and memory, perception, and judgment - difficulty
speaking, listening effectively, thinking, retaining knowledge, problem solving,
and forming concepts
Intense anxiety or panic attacks

But hey, it's up to you what you do with your body, just don't be so ignorant of the true dangers it poses...

[discotheque]

Footage of dave drunk on the holy spirit

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Dear me, one minute he's slurring wildy, then he's quite coherent, oh surprise surprise he's drunk again. A very unconvincing performance. Looks more like some desperate kind of attention seeking

[flamingGalah!]

Yep, he's pathetic. And extremely insulting to both christians & those who have lost loved ones to cancer, which he claims to be able to cure... :nono:

[Shiner]

It's a shame that those tip top, sober braincells of yours could not respond to all my point destroying comments I made in the post you quoted. I really hope you shut off the computer. I had dis mate who had an electric shock, innit, so to be on the safe side I'm typing myself with rubber gloves.

You are such a cliche. I'm so tired of hearing of you and your ilk. 'I made the right choice and stopped, and some day you will too, and you will be super and sober JUST LIKE ME!'.

Why don't you treat Alcohol the same way? Is that also a triviality you grow out of? Are all adult drinkers sad old wasters? No? Why?

You are basically tarring all weed smokers with the same brush. You are arguing based on nothing but your own ancedotal evidence. There's ... there's nothing too it. I can't even argue back the riddiculous points you are putting foward.

And why do I smoke weed? Because I enjoy the state of mind and it's the one drug that has brought me nothing but positives in the past four or five years. My family has a history of alcoholism and I were a right little bugger when I was a boozer.

But hey I grew out of Alcohol and now I have the foresight to be a preachy, patronizing ol' asshole to others who drink responsibly and still have a healthy relationship with the drug.

I'm just like you.

Enjoy.

So your only defence is it's not as bad as alcohol. I guess being shot by a pistol isn't as bad as being shot by a rifle. :sad:

And saying this...

You are arguing based on nothing but your own ancedotal evidence.

...is just ridiculous. Like how is there any better evidence than what you've seen with you own eyes?

Dude, you don't have to explain anything to me about the lifestyle, I have been there and if you got off your high horse (no pun) for a minute and threw away your preconceptions you might take on board that my involvement was to a greater degree than you might at first imagine. To me pot-heads are the clichés.

I don't think that this is the forum for this discussion so you look your way and I'll look mine. See you around pal. :)

[Peter Plunker]

I love that vid, 'there's a lorra glory'. :D