Is Caoimhe a Sociopath?

[InOne]

She cleary does not give a **** about anyone. She just laughs in Shabbys face when ever she tries to get emotional with her. And well, you know the rest, sly, lethal tongue ect

[Zippy]

I think you're making her more interesting than she actually is. She has a striking look but sadly a very dull personality to go with it. She drew confidence from Shabby. Now she actually speaks with other HMs she doesn't need her so much.

I just hope she goes friday instead of Shabby. She'll never have explosive moments like Shabby will.

[discotheque]

Definitely came across as a hard-faced madam tonight.

[MrBlack]

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Profile of the Sociopath

Glibness and Superficial Charm

Manipulative and Conning
They never recognize the rights of others and see their self-serving behaviors as permissible. They appear to be charming, yet are covertly hostile and domineering, seeing their victim as merely an instrument to be used. They may dominate and humiliate their victims.

Grandiose Sense of Self
Feels entitled to certain things as "their right."

Pathological Lying
Has no problem lying coolly and easily and it is almost impossible for them to be truthful on a consistent basis. Can create, and get caught up in, a complex belief about their own powers and abilities. Extremely convincing and even able to pass lie detector tests.

Lack of Remorse, Shame or Guilt
A deep seated rage, which is split off and repressed, is at their core. Does not see others around them as people, but only as targets and opportunities. Instead of friends, they have victims and accomplices who end up as victims. The end always justifies the means and they let nothing stand in their way.

Shallow Emotions
When they show what seems to be warmth, joy, love and compassion it is more feigned than experienced and serves an ulterior motive. Outraged by insignificant matters, yet remaining unmoved and cold by what would upset a normal person. Since they are not genuine, neither are their promises.

Incapacity for Love

Need for Stimulation
Living on the edge. Verbal outbursts and physical punishments are normal. Promiscuity and gambling are common.

Callousness/Lack of Empathy
Unable to empathize with the pain of their victims, having only contempt for others' feelings of distress and readily taking advantage of them.

Poor Behavioral Controls/Impulsive Nature
Rage and abuse, alternating with small expressions of love and approval produce an addictive cycle for abuser and abused, as well as creating hopelessness in the victim. Believe they are all-powerful, all-knowing, entitled to every wish, no sense of personal boundaries, no concern for their impact on others.

Early Behavior Problems/Juvenile Delinquency
Usually has a history of behavioral and academic difficulties, yet "gets by" by conning others. Problems in making and keeping friends; aberrant behaviors such as cruelty to people or animals, stealing, etc.

Irresponsibility/Unreliability
Not concerned about wrecking others' lives and dreams. Oblivious or indifferent to the devastation they cause. Does not accept blame themselves, but blames others, even for acts they obviously committed.

Promiscuous Sexual Behavior/Infidelity
Promiscuity, child sexual abuse, rape and sexual acting out of all sorts.

Lack of Realistic Life Plan/Parasitic Lifestyle
Tends to move around a lot or makes all encompassing promises for the future, poor work ethic but exploits others effectively.

Criminal or Entrepreneurial Versatility
Changes their image as needed to avoid prosecution. Changes life story readily.
Other Related Qualities:

Contemptuous of those who seek to understand them
Does not perceive that anything is wrong with them
Authoritarian
Secretive
Paranoid
Only rarely in difficulty with the law, but seeks out situations where their tyrannical behavior will be tolerated, condoned, or admired
Conventional appearance
Goal of enslavement of their victim(s)
Exercises despotic control over every aspect of the victim's life
Has an emotional need to justify their crimes and therefore needs their victim's affirmation (respect, gratitude and love)
Ultimate goal is the creation of a willing victim
Incapable of real human attachment to another
Unable to feel remorse or guilt
Extreme narcissism and grandiose
May state readily that their goal is to rule the world

[pixee]

Lol i can see why you'd think that, but do you not think maybe when she laughs at shabby it is because she perhaps doesn't believe it? I know i was cringing at shabby tonight and laughing at the absurdity.

As for the above list, there are quite a few of those we aren't qualified to diagnose with 14 or 15 hours worth of footage maybe a couple only of that HM. But a few...lol you can tick

[MusicMan]

I think Caoimhe just laughs and giggles out of nervousness or awkwardness around a certain topic (ie Shabby's feelings for her)
A natural involuntary reaction I reckon
I haven't seen her be particularly nasty or vicious however

[BB_Eye]

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Profile of the Sociopath



Sounds like this lovely lady

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[BB_Eye]

I think Caoimhe just laughs and giggles out of nervousness or awkwardness around a certain topic (ie Shabby's feelings for her)
A natural involuntary reaction I reckon
I haven't seen her be particularly nasty or vicious however

Yeah, I know it might sound a little too prosaic for some of Caoimhe's most die hard haters to handle, but I think most of her bad behaviour is down to group and social influences. Similar to Imogen, Karly, etc

[arista]

She cleary does not give a **** about anyone. She just laughs in Shabbys face when ever she tries to get emotional with her. And well, you know the rest, sly, lethal tongue ect



No she has had a Tough Life.

[Zippy]

No she has had a Tough Life.

No, Steve has had a tough life.

JJ and Caoimhe are mere amateurs in comparison. And Steve hasn't come out of it as a young, healthy PRETTY person either.

Unlike those two ungrateful, self pitying bastards.

[Frank E]

Her looks are as striking as a wet safety match.

[setanta]

Nah, she's just a brat and putting on a performance, that's all.

[InOne]

I couldn't be bothered to go through the checklist, don't know anything about her past arista, but that does not matter. She just seems quite distant really, and does not know how to react to situations involving emotion. As in could not see what Shabby hat meant to her. Also see how she has Shabby hanging on her like a little puppy, even when Shabby realised she was using her.

[Visage]

No, Steve has had a tough life.

JJ and Caoimhe are mere amateurs in comparison. And Steve hasn't come out of it as a young, healthy PRETTY person either.

Unlike those two ungrateful, self pitying bastards.

Agreed.

[Zippy]

even when Shabby realised she was using her.

Theyve been using each other tbf. When you know somebody isnt that way inclined and they have a BF then its your own effing fault if you let yourself get emotionally sucked in.

But Shabby was trying to act like she was infatuated with her after a week so I dont think its genuine. Just melodrama.

[InOne]

Theyve been using each other tbf. When you know somebody isnt that way inclined and they have a BF then its your own effing fault if you let yourself get emotionally sucked in.

But Shabby was trying to act like she was infatuated with her after a week so I dont think its genuine. Just melodrama.

Don't buy Shabby either for a second either lol She was trying to wriggle out of it in the DR but admitting she overracted, but she knew what she was doing.

[GiRTh]

I couldn't be bothered to go through the checklist, don't know anything about her past arista, but that does not matter. She just seems quite distant really, and does not know how to react to situations involving emotion. As in could not see what Shabby hat meant to her. Also see how she has Shabby hanging on her like a little puppy, even when Shabby realised she was using her.
Agree with this. Keeva is the reason for much of Shabby's unhappiness. Like Shabby's said ' She's had what she wants from me' - or something like that. Shabby's starting to show quite a vulnerable side and with anger management there might be something resembling a balanced individual in about 20 - 30 years.:spin:

[vesavius]

She cleary does not give a **** about anyone. She just laughs in Shabbys face when ever she tries to get emotional with her. And well, you know the rest, sly, lethal tongue ect

lol you think everyone is a freakin sociopath... Is it your word of the week or something? :joker:

[InOne]

lol you think everyone is a freakin sociopath... Is it your word of the week or something? :joker:

;)

[MissKittyFantastico]

She just seems very cold and unemotional to me, very much like Noirin last year.

Wouldn't put her in the same league as Bea though Joe ;)

[supergirthuk]

I imagine her to be a tarmac driveway!

[nanaimo]

shes alright but go go spain:dance:

[AndyJK]

She cleary does not give a **** about anyone. She just laughs in Shabbys face when ever she tries to get emotional with her. And well, you know the rest, sly, lethal tongue ect

I wouldnt go as far as a sociopath. She is definitely sarcastic, controlling, a little bit spiteful and selfish; She is not very forgiving and seems carry resentment towards people over silly things. I don't think she's always honest either.

I really don't know why Shabby fancies her, if she genuinely does. I think she looks odd and not someone I would want to be around. If Keever is evicted, and I hope she is, we will see a different Shabby emerge.

[biggestbrother]

She's just a b!tch.

[big_bother]

She just laughs in Shabbys face when ever she tries to get emotional with her.

You ever thought maybe it's because she's feeling awkward?!. A boyfriend at home and you've got some lesbian pouring out her heart to you, yada yada yada.

I'm not a fan of Caoimhe. I'm just stating.

[Frank E]

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Profile of the Sociopath

Glibness and Superficial Charm

Manipulative and Conning
They never recognize the rights of others and see their self-serving behaviors as permissible. They appear to be charming, yet are covertly hostile and domineering, seeing their victim as merely an instrument to be used. They may dominate and humiliate their victims.

Grandiose Sense of Self
Feels entitled to certain things as "their right."

Pathological Lying
Has no problem lying coolly and easily and it is almost impossible for them to be truthful on a consistent basis. Can create, and get caught up in, a complex belief about their own powers and abilities. Extremely convincing and even able to pass lie detector tests.

Lack of Remorse, Shame or Guilt
A deep seated rage, which is split off and repressed, is at their core. Does not see others around them as people, but only as targets and opportunities. Instead of friends, they have victims and accomplices who end up as victims. The end always justifies the means and they let nothing stand in their way.

Shallow Emotions
When they show what seems to be warmth, joy, love and compassion it is more feigned than experienced and serves an ulterior motive. Outraged by insignificant matters, yet remaining unmoved and cold by what would upset a normal person. Since they are not genuine, neither are their promises.

Incapacity for Love

Need for Stimulation
Living on the edge. Verbal outbursts and physical punishments are normal. Promiscuity and gambling are common.

Callousness/Lack of Empathy
Unable to empathize with the pain of their victims, having only contempt for others' feelings of distress and readily taking advantage of them.

Poor Behavioral Controls/Impulsive Nature
Rage and abuse, alternating with small expressions of love and approval produce an addictive cycle for abuser and abused, as well as creating hopelessness in the victim. Believe they are all-powerful, all-knowing, entitled to every wish, no sense of personal boundaries, no concern for their impact on others.

Early Behavior Problems/Juvenile Delinquency
Usually has a history of behavioral and academic difficulties, yet "gets by" by conning others. Problems in making and keeping friends; aberrant behaviors such as cruelty to people or animals, stealing, etc.

Irresponsibility/Unreliability
Not concerned about wrecking others' lives and dreams. Oblivious or indifferent to the devastation they cause. Does not accept blame themselves, but blames others, even for acts they obviously committed.

Promiscuous Sexual Behavior/Infidelity
Promiscuity, child sexual abuse, rape and sexual acting out of all sorts.

Lack of Realistic Life Plan/Parasitic Lifestyle
Tends to move around a lot or makes all encompassing promises for the future, poor work ethic but exploits others effectively.

Criminal or Entrepreneurial Versatility
Changes their image as needed to avoid prosecution. Changes life story readily.
Other Related Qualities:

Contemptuous of those who seek to understand them
Does not perceive that anything is wrong with them
Authoritarian
Secretive
Paranoid
Only rarely in difficulty with the law, but seeks out situations where their tyrannical behavior will be tolerated, condoned, or admired
Conventional appearance
Goal of enslavement of their victim(s)
Exercises despotic control over every aspect of the victim's life
Has an emotional need to justify their crimes and therefore needs their victim's affirmation (respect, gratitude and love)
Ultimate goal is the creation of a willing victim
Incapable of real human attachment to another
Unable to feel remorse or guilt
Extreme narcissism and grandiose
May state readily that their goal is to rule the world

Oh ****! Thats me that is!

[fruit_cake]

You ever thought maybe it's because she's feeling awkward?!. A boyfriend at home and you've got some lesbian pouring out her heart to you, yada yada yada.

I'm not a fan of Caoimhe. I'm just stating.

she's never said to shabby that she's not interested, she's led her on all the way so i think she's reaping what she sows at the moment.

[discotheque]

Yes, she was on that Irish Big Brother wasn't she ? The one where a number of house mates met with unfortunate accidents.

[big_bother]

she's never said to shabby that she's not interested, she's led her on all the way so i think she's reaping what she sows at the moment.

True :tongue:

[jjj2]

she is just like all Dubliners too straight talking for her own good forgetting to censor herself for an audience that is not use to this sort of strraight talking, Also like alot of Irish people throwing in a few F--ks or other swear words to add extra enfaces to what she is saying , Geldof dose the same. Irish people are so use to it they would hardly notice the swear words in the sentence but it comes as a big shock to english people (Geldof,give me the F--k-n money)

[Sabrewulf238]

I always thought she laughed because she was feeling awkward, people do that.

[Livia]

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Profile of the Sociopath... etc. etc. etc...



Every year we're assured of certain things. They are as inevitable as the seasons. One is that after every eviction people will post that "the show is over because the stupid public are voting out the entertaining ones", yet the following week they're all back on here discussing the remaining housemates. The other is that, at some point, someone will give us a long, rambling cut-and-paste explanation of what a sociopath is, as if we weren't capable of Googling it ourselves if we needed to.

[InOne]

You ever thought maybe it's because she's feeling awkward?!. A boyfriend at home and you've got some lesbian pouring out her heart to you, yada yada yada.

I'm not a fan of Caoimhe. I'm just stating.

A Bf of 3 months, and I highly doubt they 'madly' in love as she says. And yes, she was awkward at first, but I'm talking about when Shabby tells her personal stuff, nothing to do with liking her.

[InOne]

She just seems very cold and unemotional to me, very much like Noirin last year.

Wouldn't put her in the same league as Bea though Joe ;)

Indeed, Bea was not sly in the slightest, she just did it lol

[Jords]

Joe really wants his sociopath this year. :laugh:

[Niamh.]

haha, I knew it had to be you when I saw the S word JoeJoe:hugesmile:

[Niamh.]

I'm not a fan of Caoimhe at all but I will say that the laughing when Shabby gets emotional with her seems to me like a nervous reaction on Caoimhes part, like she doesn't know how to act and feels a bit uncomfortable

[InOne]

I guess it is hard to tell really, as Shabby can be quite full on at time. But I do still think she has a really cold side to her. Also a nasty tongue, and she knew Dave could hear him when she called him a weirdo, I mean, who does that?

[Niamh.]

I guess it is hard to tell really, as Shabby can be quite full on at time. But I do still think she has a really cold side to her. Also a nasty tongue, and she knew Dave could hear him when she called him a weirdo, I mean, who does that?

I just think she's a shallow bitch desperate to fit in with "the cool gang"

[InOne]

I just think she's a shallow bitch desperate to fit in with "the cool gang"

Probably goes back to her past where she said she looked like a boy and all that.

[AndyJK]

She's just a b!tch.

Succinctly put :spin:

[starry]

Probably goes back to her past where she said she looked like a boy and all that.

Shabby told her she looked like a man in her task costume today. :D

[WOMBAI]

She cleary does not give a **** about anyone. She just laughs in Shabbys face when ever she tries to get emotional with her. And well, you know the rest, sly, lethal tongue ect

Oh come on - she is just a nasty bitch - not sociopath!

[InOne]

Oh come on - she is just a nasty bitch - not sociopath!

We've had them before in BB, no reason why one wouldn't pop up again.

[yousoboo!]

yes. awful female.

[boomoo]

I think Caoimhe just laughs and giggles out of nervousness or awkwardness around a certain topic (ie Shabby's feelings for her)
A natural involuntary reaction I reckon
I haven't seen her be particularly nasty or vicious however

She is totally embarrassed by Shabby's persistence. It reminds me of Craig and Anthony. Caoimhe likes Shabby and finds her interesting but that is it.
Shabby keeps telling other housemates she is being led on.
Does she want Caiomhe to say get lost.

Shabby is just talking to other housemates to get support because she fully intends to stay when Caiomhe is out on Friday

[InOne]

She is totally embarrassed by Shabby's persistence. It reminds me of Craig and Anthony. Caoimhe likes Shabby and finds her interesting but that is it.
Shabby keeps telling other housemates she is being led on.
Does she want Caiomhe to say get lost.

Shabby is just talking to other housemates to get support because she fully intends to stay when Caiomhe is out on Friday

Yes but we're not just talking about the Shabby thing. There are other things as well.