Oh gawd... shes playing the 'victim' card yet again...

[vesavius]

Crying about how JJ 'made her bleed' and caused her to flash her taco...

This all despite SS having been told what she was going into the pool if she threw that water, and yet choosing to throw it anyhow. Not too bright tbh.

Maybe if she was so worried about her reputation as a doctor she should have considered that before acting like a twat on BB?

At least Borin Corin is talking sense to her in bed.

(cue all the posters here with victim complexes rushing to her defense over the evil evil man...)

[King Gizzard]

Jeez them two are as bad as each other (her n jj)

[Callum]

To be fair to her she did ask him to stop and he didn't stop

[bbbrrr]

wat happened?

[vesavius]

Jeez them two are as bad as each other (her n jj)

Nate, we agree (for once lol) :joker:

[vesavius]

wat happened?

She said she was gonna pour water over JJ.

He said that if she did he would dump her in the pool.

She poured water over him anyhow.

He dumped her in the pool, accidently showing her taco (maybe) on the way.

She emoed all the way to the DR door.

She started it, he did what he said he would do, she then didnt like it and bitched and cried.



Thats it in a nutshell :)

[MissKittyFantastico]

He warned her though, if you're gonna pour water on someone when they're in bed (which would piss me off a lot more than being thrown in the pool tbh) then you gotta take whats dished out. Not his fault she had a nightie on and flashed her bits! He warned her loads of times and she still went ahead and did it. Now she's making a huge drama again when she was laughing her ass off about it before.

[flamingGalah!]

But did she expose JJ's minge?

[bbbrrr]

ty, maybe she should ware underware

[vesavius]

But did she expose JJ's minge?

:joker:

[MrBlack]

I think this is going to be a big issue in the house...like proper big.

I'd say JJ is in some real ****.

[eviled2010]

Gashgate:elephant:

[vesavius]

I think this is going to be a big issue in the house...like proper big.

I'd say JJ is in some real ****.

actually watching her winge in bed about it you may be right...

Seems she really poured in on thick in the DR... 'I am really shaken up... scared..' ect.

I'm not a fan of JJs particularly, but she would be a real bitch to let him go down like this.

[MrBlack]

yup...its a big deal.

[King Gizzard]

Same I think he's fcked :/ And I don't even like


BB have been harsh in the past when they had to regarding ejections etc.

[MrBlack]

Same I think he's fcked :/ And I don't even like him

me neither...but i dont like sunshine...this could have turned around caoimhe & shabby's eviction..if shabby could just shut up!

[MissKittyFantastico]

I think he's just got a warning because he's back out the DR and talking to Ife and that lot about it.

[vesavius]

I think he's just got a warning because he's back out the DR and talking to Ife and that lot about it.

A warnings fine I guess, though still unwarranted.

JJ has been too good a HM so far to be dumped out like this by her.

I guess they don't want this to become public knowledge the way they are keeping the camera locked on SS sleeping while the others all talk about it.

[red]

OMG will BB kick him out you think?

[Dannyboii]

I wouldnt say shes playing the victim card, just doing what most female do :joker:

[vesavius]

I wouldnt say shes playing the victim card, just doing what most female do :joker:

You heard her talking about it to Corin in bed on LF?

btw, what do 'most female' do?

[vesavius]

OMG will BB kick him out you think?

Looking like not, though could have easily gone that way.

[starry]

We all know JJ is an idiot and that he only has support as some girls think he is fit.

[XxXILuv2PlayXxX]

I wish Ife would shut up about Sunshine saying that she is a drama queen & attention seeker - Ife you are getting to that stage soon yourself if you are not careful!!!!:whistle::crazy:

[King Gizzard]

LOL he would probably of been able to sue if BB kicked him out, from all the false bad press and hatemail he would of got

[vesavius]

I wish Ife would shut up about Sunshine saying that she is a drama queen & attention seeker - Ife you are getting to that stage soon yourself if you are not careful!!!!:whistle::crazy:

I'm not a fan of Ife's tbh but she has got SS perfectly.

Tonight has doubly proven that.

[starry]

Jeez them two are as bad as each other (her n jj)

Not really he dragged her across to the pool and threw her in even though she said stop. Hopefully this at least turns some people against JJ anyway, I really hope it hurts his chances in this series of doing that well.

[starry]

I'm not a fan of Ife's tbh but she has got SS perfectly.

Tonight has doubly proven that.

I don't think so, it's shown Ife to be as big a bitch as Keeva. This matter is none of her business and she is using it as a means of bitching about Sunshine again, along with some of the other turds in there.

[Dannyboii]

You heard her talking about it to Corin in bed on LF?

btw, what do 'most female' do?

Like when girls get carried away with insults or just general dicking around, the lad takes the p (or in this case chucks her in the pool), woman gets upset because the lads 'gone too far'. Happens all the time. :joker:

[vesavius]

Not really he dragged her across to the pool and threw her in even though she said stop. Hopefully this at least turns some people against JJ anyway, I really hope it hurts his chances in this series of doing that well.

Thats a really spiteful position to take tbh... You might not like JJ but to want him to suffer from a silly little girl's false accusations and drama staging is just wrong. :nono:

[vesavius]

I don't think so, it's shown Ife to be as big a bitch as... etc

Like I say, I am no fan of Ife, but she has got Shunshine bang on.

[starry]

Thats a really spiteful position to take tbh... You might not like JJ but to want him to suffer from a silly little girl's false accusations and drama staging is just wrong. :nono:

What evidence have you got that anything she said to BB was false? You seem to be taking the spiteful position.

[vesavius]

What evidence have you got that anything she said to BB was false? You seem to be taking the spiteful position.

I have been watching LF all through it and listened to what SS said to Corin about what she said when she went in the DR.

You?

[red]

i've not seen this yet but this reminds me of charlie & rodrigo last year when roddie spilled cooking oil on charlie's bed:joker:

[starry]

i've not seen this yet but this reminds me of charlie & rodrigo last year when roddie spilled cooking oil on charlie's bed:joker:

It sounds worse to me, but apparently it was NOT shown on LF anyway. Dragging someone out and throwing someone into a pool has been done before but is potentially dangerous. And I heard what Sunshine told Corin (who predictably sat on the fence as always) and that was that what JJ did was 100x more than what she did and that she told him to stop.

[starry]

Some of the bitching apparently was pretty nasty as well. I can only go by what others have said but it wasn't just about her becoming a doctor they were apparently joking about her body (genitals?) too. This is the undercurrent that has been against her from the turds in the house from the start.

[vesavius]

It sounds worse to me, but apparently it was NOT shown on LF anyway. Dragging someone out and throwing someone into a pool has been done before but is potentially dangerous. And I heard what Sunshine told Corin (who predictably sat on the fence as always) and that was that what JJ did was 100x more than what she did and that she told him to stop.


I didnt say the actual act was show... oh nm, your way too entrenched as a Shunshine fan to even discuss this with. It's pointless.

The rest of the house will turn on Shunny after this though, mark my words (except Ben ofc who will move to re-recruit her asap), but I expect all you fans of hers will be playing the 'shes a victim' and 'bully' cards loud and proud about this nonethless. You all know it's the only real chance she has of winning.

[NeoPhoenix]

Trying to be as objective as possible here, I haven't seen the LF so I'm just going by what I've heard in this thread. If it is true that JJ warned her before she threw water on him, then she deserves what she got.

Hypothetical situation: If I tell a guy I'm going to punch him in the stomach, and he warns me that if I do, he is going to kick my ass, what right in the world do I have to complain when that man makes good on his promise and beats me to a bloody pulp?

It makes no sense to me whatsoever that someone would defend SS in this situation. She did something to JJ that he obviously didn't want to happen to him. He gave it back to her in return. Why is he the bad guy in this situation? If SS didn't want to end up in the pool, she shouldn't have thrown water on JJ, simple as that.

[starry]

Some of the house never gave her a chance anyway, so it didn't really matter. Her and John no doubt like each other alot less now but she was always better off without him anyway.

[oddballmisfitsFTW]

sunshine was one of may favourites but after watchin LF it seems sunshine is almost crying "rape" this is gonna turn into rapegate and will add plenty of fuel to the fire for the JJ haters

i supported her on crispgate against the bitches but in this case she is dangerously selfish and not thinking how this situation will affect perception of JJ

do you think sam and amanda would have reacted like sunshine during all their flirtin and messin about with liam???

[starry]

sunshine was one of may favourites but after watchin LF it seems sunshine is almost crying "rape" this is gonna turn into rapegate and will add plenty of fuel to the fire for the JJ haters


I haven't seen any evidence she is crying rape at all. She just told him to stop and she thinks he went too far. She may even have said she didn't want him called to the DR. But we know what the bitches in the house will conclude, and that the particular section of the audience that sides with such bitches will want to think as well.

[starry]

Trying to be as objective as possible here, I haven't seen the LF so I'm just going by what I've heard in this thread. If it is true that JJ warned her before she threw water on him, then she deserves what she got.

Hypothetical situation: If I tell a guy I'm going to punch him in the stomach, and he warns me that if I do, he is going to kick my ass, what right in the world do I have to complain when that man makes good on his promise and beats me to a bloody pulp?

It makes no sense to me whatsoever that someone would defend SS in this situation. She did something to JJ that he obviously didn't want to happen to him. He gave it back to her in return. Why is he the bad guy in this situation? If SS didn't want to end up in the pool, she shouldn't have thrown water on JJ, simple as that.

Throwing a little bit of water at someone's head is very different to dragging someone off to a pool and throwing them in.

[oddballmisfitsFTW]

I haven't seen any evidence she is crying rape at all. She just told him to stop and she thinks he went too far. She may even have said she didn't want him called to the DR. But we know what the bitches in the house will conclude, and that the particular section of the audience that sides with such bitches will want to think as well.


i have heard her say in bed with corin "he made me bleed" and "i was telling him to stop stop stop" as if she is saying it for added effect

why say it in that way "he made me bleed" just say he gave me carpet burn

so many times in BB i have seen the lads throwin girls in pool and all kinda stuff no one else has ever reacted like sunshine did

[cazzy555]

I'm not sure who's to blame and I don't really like either of them I think the whole thing just got blown out of proportion because sunshine got upset about it.

one point I would like others to consider though - there is not much is this world more frightening for a woman than when she realises how physicaly weak she is compared to a man when he uses his strength against her. now I'm not saying he should be treated like he raped her but I bet he scared her and thats why she got upset.

[billy123]

I wouldnt say shes playing the victim card, just doing what most female do :joker:
being an annoying little weirdo? most women dont do that just really self centered nutters!

she is rapidly digging her own grave in that house its lucky for her there are bigger fish to fry in that house at the moment.

[NeoPhoenix]

Throwing a little bit of water at someone's head is very different to dragging someone off to a pool and throwing them in.

The point I was trying to make here is that what happened to SS could have been avoided entirely by SS had she not thrown water on JJ in the first place. You don't get to play the victim when you are the one who instigated the situation. If JJ had done what he did without provocation, then I'd be on Sunshine's side 100%, but that is not the case. Hell, I was even on Sunshine's side during the whole Crispgate debacle.

Bottom line is Sunshine's fate was in her own hands and she made the wrong decision. She was warned and chose to ignore that warning, therefore she deserves what she got. It's not as if JJ physically beat her up or anything. She got thrown in a pool, big friggin deal. Most of us learn at a young age that there are consequences for our actions, apparently Sunshine missed that lesson. I have absolutely no sympathy at all for her in this situation.

[Barbie]

I'm presuming he didn't reveal her modesty on purpose..

so then she can't complain if he warned her what he would do...

If i say im going to do something to a guy and they say they will do such and such then i will do it anyway to call their bluff, but when they do it i don't throw a strop because i was warned

it is then an "informed decision" lol

[starry]

In BB10 Big Brother actually warned HMs not to not throw someone in the pool by an announcement. I don't really see any difference, except that that was a man (Rodrigo) and this was a woman. Obvious double standards.

[charmingmissc]

I'm presuming he didn't reveal her modesty on purpose..

so then she can't complain if he warned her what he would do...

If i say im going to do something to a guy and they say they will do such and such then i will do it anyway to call their bluff, but when they do it i don't throw a strop because i was warned

it is then an "informed decision" lol

i agree with your point of view, because that is the way i deal with joshing about.
she chose to throw the water, he did what he said he would do.

[NeoPhoenix]

The only double standard here, starry, is that you seem to think SS's behavior was justified because she is a woman and not a man. I guarantee if this was one of the guys JJ did this to, you wouldn't be harping all over JJ for it. I'm sure JJ was probably warned in the DR about this situation. Also if I recall correctly, Rodrigo didn't instigate the situation that led to him being carried to the pool either. Sunshine did. There's a big difference there.

[WOMBAI]

He warned her though, if you're gonna pour water on someone when they're in bed (which would piss me off a lot more than being thrown in the pool tbh) then you gotta take whats dished out. Not his fault she had a nightie on and flashed her bits! He warned her loads of times and she still went ahead and did it. Now she's making a huge drama again when she was laughing her ass off about it before.

If she had a nightie on - commonsense should have told him to be careful about not exposing her! Doubt he gave it a thought - or would have cared if he had! Fault on both sides - but does he always have to act like a bull in a china shop!

[fingers]

Look at it from JJs point of view, "if I don't throw her in the pool I'm going to come across as a wimp, I can't allow that" lol, typical Macho Aussie thicko.

[starry]

The only double standard here, starry, is that you seem to think SS's behavior was justified because she is a woman and not a man. I guarantee if this was one of the guys JJ did this to, you wouldn't be harping all over JJ for it. I'm sure JJ was probably warned in the DR about this situation. Also if I recall correctly, Rodrigo didn't instigate the situation that led to him being carried to the pool either. Sunshine did. There's a big difference there.

Rodrigo blew his temper in ways that Sunshine never has, he definitely did start alot of situations. Indeed he even threw a bottle of water (or something) at Charlie's head from what I remember. That is far more dangerous than sprinkling a bit of water at someone. It doesn't matter who starts the 'play' it matters who accelerates it into something unnecessarily aggressive. Some of them do get very physical with her by pulling her around and touching her up.

[NeoPhoenix]

Rodrigo blew his temper in ways that Sunshine never has, he definitely did start alot of situations. Indeed he even threw a bottle of water (or something) at Charlie's head from what I remember. That is far more dangerous than sprinkling a bit of water at someone. It doesn't matter who starts the 'play' it matters who accelerates it into something unnecessarily aggressive. Some of them do get very physical with her by pulling her around and touching her up.

I'm not defending every single thing Rodrigo did while he was in BB. What he did outside of the pool incident is irrelevant to this discussion. He started a lot of things in the house, but in the pool incident, he hadn't provoked anyone as far as I remember. That is the difference here. Rodrigo didn't provoke anyone in that situation, Sunshine did. She shouldn't get a free pass just because she happens to be female. I know a lot of women like SS who think they can do whatever they want to men without repercussions solely for the fact that they are female. I think it is BS personally. If you don't want to burn your hand, you don't put your hand on a hot stove. Likewise if you don't want to get dumped in the pool, don't throw water on JJ. End of story. You still have yet to admit that SS could have avoided the entire situation had she not thrown water all over JJ.

[Peter Plunker]

Tough one this. Obviously JJ (even though he's a prat) didn't mean to flash the foof but the fact remains that he did, even if it was by accident. I think some maturity on both their parts is called for.

[fruit_cake]

She shouldn't get a free pass just because she happens to be female. I know a lot of women like SS who think they can do whatever they want to men without repercussions solely for the fact that they are female.

what a load of rubbish, what about JJ's free pass? if he were a girl and played around with peoples emotions in the same way he'd be hated like rachael was.

[stoney]

whoops thought this was a Shabby thread:conf:
she has been playing the victim all week from nominations thru the hat saga to saying Caoimhe has been using her and leading her on:sleep:

[ange7]

To be fair to her she did ask him to stop and he didn't stop

lol ...to be fair he asked her to stop first and she didn't. You watching the same show?

[Livia]

.......(cue all the posters here with victim complexes rushing to her defense over the evil evil man...)

If we don't agree with you we've all got to be nuts, right?

[WOMBAI]

If we don't agree with you we've all got to be nuts, right?

Just what I thought - seems like a rather pathetic attempt to prevent people from disagreeing! :hugesmile:

[ange7]

what a load of rubbish, what about JJ's free pass? if he were a girl and played around with peoples emotions in the same way he'd be hated like rachael was.
He doesn't play with sunshines's emotions .... she initiates all fooling around with JJ. She needs to come up with something better than dumping water on someone she has the hots for ..... . She has the emotional intelligence of a 10 year old and can't work out why everyone doesn't respond positively to her tantrums like her daddy does hehe

[NeoPhoenix]

what a load of rubbish, what about JJ's free pass? if he were a girl and played around with peoples emotions in the same way he'd be hated like rachael was.

I never said I liked JJ anywhere in this entire topic. In fact he annoys the piss out of me. But I can see past my like/dislike for SS and JJ and look at the situation from an objective viewpoint. I actually like SS most of the time and thought she got a bit bullied during the whole stupid crispgate thing, but this situation here is completely her fault as without her instigation, she never would have wound up in the pool. What is so hard to get about this?

[Sabrewulf238]

I'm not sure if many woman would be too pleased having their vagina flashed in front of possibly millions of people.

[ange7]

I'm not sure if many woman would be too pleased having their vagina flashed in front of possibly millions of people.
Then why initiate a wrestle/fight/grope with JJ WHILE wearing no underwear. ;P

[WOMBAI]

I never said I liked JJ anywhere in this entire topic. In fact he annoys the piss out of me. But I can see past my like/dislike for SS and JJ and look at the situation from an objective viewpoint. I actually like SS most of the time and thought she got a bit bullied during the whole stupid crispgate thing, but this situation here is completely her fault as without her instigation, she never would have wound up in the pool. What is so hard to get about this?

That may be true - but JJ is also responsible for his actions - and he shouldn't have been so gung ho in his response! All it required was a bit of tact on his part - clearly too much to ask of him! Maybe her biggest mistake was underestimating his stupidity!

[Sabrewulf238]

Then why initiate a wrestle/fight/grope with JJ WHILE wearing no underwear. ;P

It is possible that she didn't expect him to drag her around the room......which was probably naive considering he likes dragging people about. :hugesmile:

[ange7]

That may be true - but JJ is also responsible for his actions - and he shouldn't have been so gung ho in his response! All it required was a bit of tact on his part - clearly too much to ask of him! Maybe her biggest mistake was underestimating his stupidity!

"so gung ho what what!!" ...she knew JJ would man-handle her into the pool. He did it before and even warned her as much this time round. Lol at you for not knowing what SS motives were ...hehe

[ange7]

It is possible that she didn't expect him to drag her around the room......which was probably naive considering he likes dragging people about. :hugesmile:
he dragged her towards the pool once before. She was laughing herself stupid then ... this time she forgot she had no underwear on ...lol

[chuff me dizzy]

Crying about how JJ 'made her bleed' and caused her to flash her taco...

This all despite SS having been told what she was going into the pool if she threw that water, and yet choosing to throw it anyhow. Not too bright tbh.

Maybe if she was so worried about her reputation as a doctor she should have considered that before acting like a twat on BB?

At least Borin Corin is talking sense to her in bed.

(cue all the posters here with victim complexes rushing to her defense over the evil evil man...)

And why if shes a "trainee effing Dr" is she wearing nighties that short with the chance of her Muckymary being seen if she bent over,tripped etc ?Keep your knickers on you fake cow

[chuff me dizzy]

he dragged her towards the pool once before. She was laughing herself stupid then ... this time she forgot she had no underwear on ...lol

Oh please !! Rachel got hammered on here for having no knickers on ,PLEASE dont make you Scumshine/Bonnie Langford didnt realise .therefore making her a poor little innocent ,because she DID know she had none on

[WOMBAI]

"so gung ho what what!!" ...she knew JJ would man-handle her into the pool. He did it before and even warned her as much this time round. Lol at you for not knowing what SS motives were ...hehe

Lol at you for thinking you know what SS's motives were! :sleep:

[chuff me dizzy]

Then why initiate a wrestle/fight/grope with JJ WHILE wearing no underwear. ;P

Could it have anything to do with ATTENTION/CAMERA time ?you never know she may have a sore throat so couldnt do here 4 hour audition for the touring show "A night with the stars of Hollywood"

[WOMBAI]

Oh please !! Rachel got hammered on here for having no knickers on ,PLEASE dont make you Scumshine/Bonnie Langford didnt realise .therefore making her a poor little innocent ,because she DID know she had none on

She had her nightie on - acceptable not to wear knickers then! Rachael just fancied herself - and liked showing herself off! Quite a difference!

[chuff me dizzy]

Rodrigo blew his temper in ways that Sunshine never has, he definitely did start alot of situations. Indeed he even threw a bottle of water (or something) at Charlie's head from what I remember. That is far more dangerous than sprinkling a bit of water at someone. It doesn't matter who starts the 'play' it matters who accelerates it into something unnecessarily aggressive. Some of them do get very physical with her by pulling her around and touching her up.

I doubt EXTREMELY that anyone is brave or desperate enough to "TOUCH HER UP"Mikey Hughes turned her down so Im damn sure someone with JJ`s looks wont bother ,FFS

[chuff me dizzy]

She had her nightie on - acceptable not to wear knickers then! Rachael just fancied herself - and liked showing herself off! Quite a difference!

if you have got a nighty on that barely covers your ass you do not muck about in it on national tv

[WOMBAI]

Could it have anything to do with ATTENTION/CAMERA time ?you never know she may have a sore throat so couldnt do here 4 hour audition for the touring show "A night with the stars of Hollywood"

Oh come on - it seems pretty obvious that SS is not the type to want her 'bits' exposed on national TV. Not to mention as a med student - there are rules and regulations about conduct - even in your private time!

[Livia]

if you have got a nighty on that barely covers your ass you do not muck about in it on national tv

How about regional TV? Would it be acceptable not to wear knickers with your nightie on, say... Anglia?

[ange7]

Could it have anything to do with ATTENTION/CAMERA time ?you never know she may have a sore throat so couldnt do here 4 hour audition for the touring show "A night with the stars of Hollywood"
dude...get off you pipe. I'm on JJ's side on this. Read the posts before you flame and then ask questions later hehe

[ange7]

Lol at you for thinking you know what SS's motives were! :sleep:
Because she's so deep...as deep as the rainbows she farts.

[vesavius]

If we don't agree with you we've all got to be nuts, right?

But I was right wasnt I?

[cazzy555]

I didn't realise Sunshine had no knickers on, thats kinda stupid on her part to go knickerless in a house full of cameras and then complain when her minge gets seen.

[Livia]

dude...get off you pipe. I'm on JJ's side on this. Read the posts before you flame and then ask questions later hehe


To be honest, I'm amazed anyone is on his side. He's a reasonably good looking guy... but deeply flawed, stupid and insincere. He's like a child, only without the sense of self that children have.

[Livia]

But I was right wasnt I?

Probably, in your own mind... you always are.

[vesavius]

I'm presuming he didn't reveal her modesty on purpose..

so then she can't complain if he warned her what he would do...

If i say im going to do something to a guy and they say they will do such and such then i will do it anyway to call their bluff, but when they do it i don't throw a strop because i was warned

it is then an "informed decision" lol

Thank you Barbie for being objective and clear on the matter.

[chuff me dizzy]

If she had a nightie on - commonsense should have told him to be careful about not exposing her! Doubt he gave it a thought - or would have cared if he had! Fault on both sides - but does he always have to act like a bull in a china shop!

I just have to pull you up on the first sentence"IF SHE HAD A NIGHTIE ON-COMMONSENSE SHOULD HAVE TOLD """HIM"""" who had the nightie on ?Ss or JJ ? SHE had her nighty on ,To quote Kelly Osbourne.Her nighty,her mucking about,her attention seeking,her vagina "FFS dont pass the blame onto JJ for HER having no drawers on

[starry]

Oh dear your thread is looking a bit pathetic now, it's JJ who plays the victim card LOL.

[WOMBAI]

I didn't realise Sunshine had no knickers on, thats kinda stupid on her part to go knickerless in a house full of cameras and then complain when her minge gets seen.

Stupid - yes - but she clearly, naively thought that JJ wouldn't really carry out his threat in that situation!

[Jords]

I am sick of hearing this victim card nonsense. :rolleyes:

John James through a pillow at her, so she SPRINKLED a bit of water on his face, he then tried to drag her to the pool but then just soaked her with water from a glass I think. But when he dragged her it caused her to get carpet burns and maybe her flashing, so she joked she is leaving but wanted to go to the DR just because she was highly worried her vajayjay showed (which is reasonable). He got all serious, not Sunshine, she actually came out thinking they were just having fun..

[vesavius]

Probably, in your own mind... you always are.

But the fact remains I was.

Some of you people obviously have victim complexes that you automatically project on any HM you feel to be socially 'weak', feeling you have to protect them right or wrong, and making them by default 'blameless'.

I see it a lot around here and it's a problem because it stops us all talking about the actual situation clearly and openly without having to cut through the usual rubbish.

[vesavius]

Oh dear your thread is looking a bit pathetic now, it's JJ who plays the victim card LOL.

Deflection.

[WOMBAI]

I just have to pull you up on the first sentence"IF SHE HAD A NIGHTIE ON-COMMONSENSE SHOULD HAVE TOLD """HIM"""" who had the nightie on ?Ss or JJ ? SHE had her nighty on ,To quote Kelly Osbourne.Her nighty,her mucking about,her attention seeking,her vagina "FFS dont pass the blame onto JJ for HER having no drawers on

Fair point - but still most men would have been more gracious in that situation - he is an over-sensitive fool - who shows no sensitivity to others!

[vesavius]

I am sick of hearing this victim card nonsense. :rolleyes:


Then don't assume it as your default position maybe.

[Jords]

The don't assume it as your default position maybe.

Which means?

[chuff me dizzy]

Oh dear your thread is looking a bit pathetic now, it's JJ who plays the victim card LOL.

Did you see it ? or just stabbing in the dark? SHE ran to the DR claiming she was"bleeding all over"not a drop or a scratch ,yet again more camera time ,

[chuff me dizzy]

Fair point - but still most men would have been more gracious in that situation - he is an over-sensitive fool - who shows no sensitivity to others!

WRONG ,most women in this situation would have put her knickers on BEFORE she started mucking about ,its too late to play the victim after the event

[cazzy555]

Stupid - yes - but she clearly, naively thought that JJ wouldn't really carry out his threat in that situation!

I agree she just wanted a bit of fun and thought the threat was more of a dare.

[Raph]

can't wait to see this tonight!

[ange7]

Oh dear your thread is looking a bit pathetic now, it's JJ who plays the victim card LOL.
Starry
may I introduce you to sunshine
http://www.channel4.com/bigbrother/images/guid/6dcb24a3fb168f1f1a3f930a59bdfa42_extralarge.jpg

[Livia]

But the fact remains I was.

Some of you people obviously have victim complexes that you automatically project on any HM you feel to be socially 'weak', feeling you have to protect them right or wrong, and making them by default 'blameless'.

I see it a lot around here and it's a problem because it stops us all talking about the actual situation clearly and openly without having to cut through the usual rubbish.

Don't make yourself look silly by spouting your amateur psychobabble. If someone disagrees with you then you attack them and accuse them of having some kind of complex. Even if you had the education and the qualifications to psychoanalyse people you could not do it to strangers on a forum. Stop taking yourself so seriously because you're starting to look a little... manic.

[starry]

I hate amateur psychobabble but some of the BB audience are full of it unfortunately.

[WOMBAI]

I am sick of hearing this victim card nonsense. :rolleyes:

John James through a pillow at her, so she SPRINKLED a bit of water on his face, he then tried to drag her to the pool but then just soaked her with water from a glass I think. But when he dragged her it caused her to get carpet burns and maybe her flashing, so she joked she is leaving but wanted to go to the DR just because she was highly worried her vajayjay showed (which is reasonable). He got all serious, not Sunshine, she actually came out thinking they were just having fun..

I didn't see it - I am going by what has been said on here - but, from what you say, it seems JJ started it! Not what others have said - sounds like they conveniently left that bit out! She sprinkled a bit of water at him in response - and he overeacts big time - not unusual for him of course Also confirms in my mind that she had no idea he would react that way - and that she wasn't just parading around knickerless as people have implied!

[vesavius]

I hate amateur psychobabble but some of the BB audience are full of it unfortunately.

What a poor defence against the point being made.

[vesavius]

Don't make yourself look silly by spouting your amateur psychobabble... because you're starting to look a little... manic.

Hmm... hypocrite much? :joker:

[chuff me dizzy]

I didn't see it - I am going by what has been said on here - but, from what you say, it seems JJ started it! Not what others have said - sounds like they conveniently left that bit out! She sprinkled a bit of water at him in response - and he overeacts big time - not unusual for him of course Also confirms in my mind that she had no idea he would react that way - and that she wasn't just parading around knickerless as people have implied!

PLEASE wait until you HAVE seen it before handing out the blame

[ange7]

Hmm... hypocrite much? :joker:
did Livia say that?
what a rude and cheap shot.
Liv don't be so nasty and horribly personal.

:P

[starry]

Hmm... hypocrite much? :joker:

John has been playing the victim this morning, why don't you just admit it? Is it that difficult?

[WOMBAI]

PLEASE wait until you HAVE seen it before handing out the blame

I don't need to - I trust Jord's description of events!

[Jords]

I didn't see it - I am going by what has been said on here - but, from what you say, it seems JJ started it! Not what others have said - sounds like they conveniently left that bit out! She sprinkled a bit of water at him in response - and he overeacts big time - not unusual for him of course Also confirms in my mind that she had no idea he would react that way - and that she wasn't just parading around knickerless as people have implied!

Im not sure if she was thrown in the pool or just a glass chucked over her, it was just a glass from what I saw, but he could have done both, anybody know?
And she was wearing knickers, she mentioned them many the times!


Sunshine and John James have clashed after she claimed that he caused her genitals to become exposed upon throwing her into the pool for the second time today.

Ife, Mario and John James tried to calm the sopping wet and stressed 24-year-old medical student after she announced that she was quitting due to her belief that her vagina had been exposed when John James dragged her through the house and garden in just her nighty and threw her into the pool.

"Sunshine, stop being a drama queen," ordered Ife. "You're not going to leave."

"Does that look like a face that's going to leave?" John James asked, as Sunshine broke out into a brief smile.

"I kinda have to be a doctor and that’s going out on TV," she screeched. "I'm not upset because I'm wet - that was funny. Dragging me to the pool with my vagina showing - not funny."

Despite backtracking on her desire to quit, Sunshine still wanted to see Big Brother to confirm whether her private parts had been caught on camera. However, John James was unaware of this and believed that Sunshine was still going to the Diary Room to quit, which angered him as Sunshine had started the dispute after pouring a bottle of water over him while in bed.

"Everything that we’ve done you have started," he stated. "I don’t find it funny when you come over to me and pour a bottle of water on me… Don’t start something that you can't finish."

"Water's water, you made me bleed," Sunshine replied, referring to carpet burns she had received from being dragged across the living area.

"I understand that you get upset [at pranks] Sunshine. I don’t get upset," John James hit back. "I'm serious Sunshine, can you cut with the **** for an hour."

The dispute came to an end when Ife clarified to John James that Sunshine believed she had exposed herself and was merely going to see Big Brother to confirm this. However, Ife later disputed whether Sunshine could tell that she exposed herself and, after Sunshine asked for Mario to comfort her in the Diary Room, disrupted Shabby and Caoimhe's heart-to-heart to vent her frustration.

"I cant even pretend anymore. It's four steps forward and two steps back with Sunshine," she said, continuing her rant by criticising Sunshine for being attention-seeking and for placing the importance of her profession above those of other housemates.

"She chats on and on and on about this medical bollocks," protested Shabby. "If she's that ****ing concerned why is she here?"

Meanwhile John James branded pal David "two-faced" after Caoimhe said that he had relayed to the people in the bedroom a much more aggressive version of events that showed John James in a negative light.

1st bit in bold - clearly shows Sunshine was joking about leaving, JJ just wanted to cause a bigger scene.

2nd to bits - John James CAN NOT take a joke at all the hypocrite!

[ange7]

I don't need to - I trust Jord's description of events!
you are hilarious!!! hehehe
do all your trusted news sources sign off with cute emoticons :elephant::cat::elephant:

[chuff me dizzy]

I don't need to - I trust Jord's description of events!

so you are a sheep ? you follow someones opinion and view of things ?:shocked:

[vesavius]

John has been playing the victim this morning, why don't you just admit it? Is it that difficult?

Whether he is or isnt that has nothing to do with the OP and is, at best, an obvious attempt to deflect the conversation away from Shunsine.

Poor debate :nono:

[WOMBAI]

you are hilarious!!! hehehe
do all your trusted news sources sign off with cute emoticons :elephant::cat::elephant:

I know he isn't prone to needless exaggeration like many on here! :hugesmile:

[vesavius]

Im not sure if she was thrown in the pool or just a glass chucked over her, it was just a glass from what I saw, but he could have done both, anybody know?
And she was wearing knickers, she mentioned them many the times!




1st bit in bold - clearly shows Sunshine was joking about leaving, JJ just wanted to cause a bigger scene.

2nd to bits - John James CAN NOT take a joke at all the hypocrite!

I agree that BB will want to paint a a picture of Shunny as a 'victim', that is obviously their 'story' for her. This official account is jaundiced and extremely incomplete, as will the HL show be.

They know what gets the 'victim' crowd all het up.

Drama whoring like Shunny does is very annoying at the least, and at worst potentiolly very destructive.

It's a shame that people condone it by supporting her behaviour.

[WOMBAI]

so you are a sheep ? you follow someones opinion and view of things ?:shocked:

Not at all! Just using my judgement based on a combination of factors - a reliable poster, the type of person I believe Sunshine is and the exaggerated accounts of events by many other posters on this forum - as demonstrated on each and every thread!

[p3bbl3z]

Were we all watching a different show last night??
Sunshine clearly had underwear on

[Jords]

Resolved?

Sunshine and John James appeared to make amends this morning after last night's incident involving Sunshine being thrown in the pool.

Talking in the bathroom with fellow housemates Josie and Corin, Sunshine initiated the conversation by telling him that even though he had hurt her, she didn't want to fall out about it.

"I was really upset last night and I went in [the Diary Room] and I wanted to leave," she confirmed, before continuing: "I didn't go in there to say tell John off, I said over and over again I didn't want to get you into trouble."

"The public will see what they are going to see," John James said, shrugging. "I apologise for the carpet bit."

Sunshine told him that the best thing for them to do would be to get on and forget about the incident.

"Both of you just need to stop the joking then because it's going to get out of hand," Corin advised the pair.

Josie agreed that they should put it behind them, telling John James later that she didn't want to hear about it all day and that he should stop being miserable.

[vesavius]

Resolved?

I have already addressed your question.

I am not sure why you are asking it.

[Livia]

I have already addressed your question.

I am not sure why you are asking it.

I just KNOW you don't talk like that in real life LOL...

[vesavius]

I just KNOW you don't talk like that in real life LOL...

Attempting to move the thread to me instead of talking about the topic at hand...

Naughty :nono:

[Livia]

Attempting to move the thread to me instead of talking about the topic at hand...

Naughty :nono:

See? What a procrastinator. I have to read your posts because they're hilarious... and wrong.

[vesavius]

See? What a procrastinator. I have to read your posts because they're hilarious... and wrong.

Your still doing it... Trying to troll me with no value personal attacks instead of discussing the point.

Deflection is poor poor debate by people that know they have lost and have nowhere to go :nono:

[Dannyboii]

Your still doing it... Trying to troll me with no value personal attacks instead of discussing the point.

Deflection is poor poor debate by people that know they have lost and have nowhere to go :nono:

But your debate is poor since:

A: You didn't see it on LF (fully)
B: The screenshots show nothing
C: Your extremly bias against sunshine
D: Your extremly bias for John James
E: You fail to respond to the media scources which show what actually happenned

Back to school for you.

[BB_Eye]

ZOMG All you guyz r PATHETIC. It doesn't matter what Sunshine does, all you Sunshine haters always paint her as an attention seeker. YOUR ALL THE SAME.

Hmm, I sounded like a certain Josie fan there.

[vesavius]

But your debate is poor since:

A: You didn't see it on LF (fully)
B: The screenshots show nothing
C: Your extremly bias against sunshine
D: Your extremly bias for John James
E: You fail to respond to the media scources which show what actually happenned

Back to school for you.

lol ok, here we go... Dannys here with his silly points... one at a time then...

A: You didn't see it on LF (fully)

I never said I did. I did though see the parts I am am criticising Shunshine for fully.

I saw her grandstand for the other HMs, complain about 'bleeding all over' (emotive lieing), check the cameras, and then run right to the DR to say it all again to camera (again). All over something she herself started, fully knowing what would happen.

I heard her say herself to Corin in bed what she said to BB.

I saw her drama ***** as she played the victim (again).

B: The screenshots show nothing

I have never claimed they did, just that they might be good for all the Shunny apologists that didnt even watch the LF they are so vehemently saying is wrong.

C: Your extremly bias against sunshine

Yes, I do hate her showboating and me me attitude. I do hate her whining and victim stance. I do hate her fake contrived personality.

But... If your going to discount me for that, I can also discount everything you say as false for very obvious reasons.

D: Your extremly bias for John James

Wrong.

I am balanced about JJ. I fully recognise all his faults and flaws.

His faults and flaws do not make him always in the wrong automatically though, no matter how it might suit the 'victim' crowd.

E: You fail to respond to the media scources which show what actually happenned

What media sources? The extremely clipped and jaundiced official account?

I have actually responded to that in another thread, but post me a link if there have been others I have missed.




Want to try again?

[Dannyboii]

lol ok, here we go... Dannys here with his silly points... one at a time then...

A: You didn't see it on LF (fully)

I never said I did. I did though see the parts I am am criticising Shunshine for fully.

I saw her grandstand for the other HMs, complain about 'bleeding all over' (emotive lieing), check the cameras, and then run right to the DR to say it all again to camera (again). All over something she herself started, fully knowing what would happen.

I heard her say herself to Corin in bed what she said to BB.

I saw her drama ***** as she played the victim (again).

B: The screenshots show nothing

I have never claimed they did, just that they might be good for all the Shunny apologists that didnt even watch the LF they are so vehemently saying is wrong.

C: Your extremly bias against sunshine

Yes, I do hate her showboating and me me attitude. I do hate her whining and victim stance. I do hate her fake contrived personality.

But... If your going to discount me for that, I can also discount everything you say are false.

D: Your extremly bias for John James

Wrong.

I am balanced about JJ. I fully recognise all his faults and flaws.

His faults and flaws do not make him always in the wrong automatically though, no matter how it might suit the 'victim' crowd.

E: You fail to respond to the media scources which show what actually happenned

What media sources? The extremely clipped and jaundiced official account?

I have actually responded to that in another thread.




Want to try again?

No, because you just proved my point.

Your bias, didn't see it and failed to respond to articles which show what happenned :joker:.

Both as bad as each other over the whole incident IMO, just don't understand how you can say shes attention seeking and playing the victim - She went to DR, asked BB not to show her clunge and went to bed. This morning she made up with JJ and said not to talk about it anymore. Hardly attention seeking or playing the victim.

[vesavius]

No, because you just proved my point.

Your bias, didn't see it and failed to respond to articles which show what happenned :joker:.

Both as bad as each other over the whole incident IMO, just don't understand how you can say shes attention seeking and playing the victim - She went to DR, asked BB not to show her clunge and went to bed. This morning she made up with JJ and said not to talk about it anymore. Hardly attention seeking or playing the victim.

No, she said a lot more then that in the DR. She told Corin that in bed.

You obviously didnt watch the LF and your arguing from a position of ignorance.

[Dannyboii]

No, she said a lot more then that in the DR. She told Corin that in bed.

You obviously didnt watch the LF and your arguing from a position of ignorance.

You DIDN'T SEE IT, You admitted your BIAS and you still FAIL TO RESPOND to media articles which show what ACTUALLY HAPPENNED. You don't even know what she said in the DR, because they DIDNT SHOW IT. For all we know, she could have been asking for a crisp sandwich. :joker:

I did wath the LF. How is having a 1 on 1 convo, in bed, quietly, attention seeking or playing a victim?

[vesavius]

You DIDN'T SEE IT, You admitted your BIAS and you still FAIL TO RESPOND to media articles which show what ACTUALLY HAPPENNED.


:sleep:I have answered all these points already... go back and read them if you want.:sleep:

Look... I asked you to post links to the media articles you are talking about. How can I respond if you give me nothing to respond to?

[/B] You don't even know what she said in the DR, because they DIDNT SHOW IT. For all we know, she could have been asking for a crisp sandwich. :joker:

Danny, if you HAD watched it, which you obviously didnt, you would have heard Shunshine herself tell Corin what she said in the DR.

Unless you are calling her a liar?

I did wath the LF. How is having a 1 on 1 convo, in bed, quietly, attention seeking or playing a victim?

Well, seeing as it followed grandstanding for the house and running to the DR, and she knew the camera was on her, some would say someone who wasnt attention seeking would have just **** about it.

[Dannyboii]

:sleep:I have answered all these points already... go back and read them if you want.:sleep:

Look... I asked you to post links to the media articles you are talking about. How can I respond if you give me nothing to respond to?



Danny, if you HAD watched it, which you obviously didnt, you would have heard Shunshine herself tell Corin what she said in the DR.

Unless you are calling her a liar?



Well, seeing as it followed grandstanding for the house and running to the DR, and she knew the camera was on her, some would say some who wasnt attention seeking would have just **** about it.

You answered them yes, but in doing so you proved what I said was correct... go back and read them if you like :sleep::sleep::sleep::sleep::sleep::sleep::sleep:

You don't actually have anything other than your own interpretation of events and personal opinion to back up your points, making your points totally irrelivant :)

[vesavius]

You answered them yes, but in doing so you proved what I said was correct... go back and read them if you like :sleep::sleep::sleep::sleep::sleep::sleep::sleep:

You don't actually have anything other than your own interpretation of events and personal opinion to back up your points, making your points totally irrelivant :)

Your running out of steam Danny boy... :joker::joker:

[Dannyboii]

Your running out of steam Danny boy... :joker::joker:

Are you actually going to answer any point made against your arguement, or are you going to continue posting rubbish and avoiding the question.

Are you David Cameron?

[Jords]

Round 1: Dannyboii vs. vesavius

Ding! Ding! Ding!

[vesavius]

Are you actually going to answer any point made against your arguement, or are you going to continue posting rubbish and avoiding the question.

Are you David Cameron?

All your points have been answered, I don't see why I should have to repeat myself for the short bus. :joker:

[Dannyboii]

You answered them yes, but in doing so you proved what I said was correct... go back and read them if you like :sleep::sleep::sleep::sleep::sleep::sleep::sleep:

You don't actually have anything other than your own interpretation of events and personal opinion to back up your points, making your points totally irrelivant :)

:xyxwave:

[vesavius]

:xyxwave:

No steam left at all now apparently :bawling:

Does that mean I win the internet??

[Dannyboii]

You answered them yes, but in doing so you proved what I said was correct... go back and read them if you like :sleep::sleep::sleep::sleep::sleep::sleep::sleep:

You don't actually have anything other than your own interpretation of events and personal opinion to back up your points, making your points totally irrelivant :)

:xyxwave:

[vesavius]

:xyxwave:

lmao :joker:

Your the internet equivalent of a 5 year old standing in the middle of the floor with her fingers in her ears going 'lalalacanthearyoulalal'

Too entertaining :joker:

[Dannyboii]

lmao :joker:

Your the internet equivalent of a 5 year old standing in the middle of the floor with her fingers in her ears going 'lalalacanthearyoulalal'

Too entertaining :joker:

I'm waiting for you to answer the bit in bold, which you are doing a very good job of ignoring

[vesavius]

I'm waiting for you to answer the bit in bold, which you are doing a very good job of ignoring

/sigh.. you have been answered.

Reading comprehension is a valuable life skill Danny.

[Dannyboii]

/sigh.. you have been answered.

Reading comprehension is a valuable life skill Danny.

But once again, you haven't offered anything concrete.

You seem to be fixated on the fact she is attention seeking and playing the victim and I was just interested in seeing if you had anything to actually back it up with.

I could quite easily say Josie is playing a game and attention seeking.. don't know why and nothing to back it up with, I just don't like her so might aswell make every single thing she does seem as bad as possible.. but I dont, because I'd rather make an opinion based on evidence (whether I like the person or not), not preconceived thoughts.

[vesavius]

*edited to avoid purposefully stupid repetition*

You seem to be fixated on the fact she is attention seeking and playing the victim and I was just interested in seeing if you had anything to actually back it up with.

*edited to not drag the conversation off onto other HMs*

If you was that 'interested' you would be reading the entire thread again, understanding the valid points that have been made by people that actually DID watch the LF last night, and questioning them for more information with an open mind (and not your entrenched support for Shunny).

I don't think your really that 'interested' at all though tbh...

I am pretty bored with you now though, you seem to have nothing else to say, so consider this my sign off on this particular topic with you. You can have the inevitable last word :sleep:

[Livia]

If you was that 'interested' you would be reading the entire thread again, understanding the valid points that have been made by people that actually DID watch the LF last night, and questioning them for more information with an open mind (and not your entrenched support for Shunny).

I don't think your really that 'interested' at all though tbh...

I am pretty bored with you now though, you seem to have nothing else to say, so consider this my sign off on this particular topic with you. You can have the inevitable last word :sleep:


You're like a dog with a bone vesavius. You seem to be on here all the day long and say the same thing over and over. You're quite confrontational, and the person who posted the definition of "keyboard warrior" seems to have the measure of you. No one needs to produce evidence to support their likes and dislikes. You certainly don't.

I'm shoving you on 'ignore' now, so feel free to have a go back in that fractured, tortured way you have of using the language... I won't see it.

[vesavius]

You're like a dog with a bone vesavius. You seem to be on here all the day long and say the same thing over and over. You're quite confrontational, and the person who posted the definition of "keyboard warrior" seems to have the measure of you. No one needs to endlessly produce evidence to support their likes and dislikes. You certainly don't.

I'm shoving you on 'ignore' now, so feel free to have a go back in that fractured, tortured way you have of using the language... I won't see it.

again with the personal attacks in lieu of actual points regarding the topic :bawling:

[chuff me dizzy]

You DIDN'T SEE IT, You admitted your BIAS and you still FAIL TO RESPOND to media articles which show what ACTUALLY HAPPENNED. You don't even know what she said in the DR, because they DIDNT SHOW IT. For all we know, she could have been asking for a crisp sandwich. :joker:

I did wath the LF. How is having a 1 on 1 convo, in bed, quietly, attention seeking or playing a victim?

Hold on a minute love :conf:........... what "media" was in the diary room ?:conf:

[Jamietwo]

Trying to be as objective as possible here, I haven't seen the LF so I'm just going by what I've heard in this thread. If it is true that JJ warned her before she threw water on him, then she deserves what she got.

Hypothetical situation: If I tell a guy I'm going to punch him in the stomach, and he warns me that if I do, he is going to kick my ass, what right in the world do I have to complain when that man makes good on his promise and beats me to a bloody pulp?

It makes no sense to me whatsoever that someone would defend SS in this situation. She did something to JJ that he obviously didn't want to happen to him. He gave it back to her in return. Why is he the bad guy in this situation? If SS didn't want to end up in the pool, she shouldn't have thrown water on JJ, simple as that.

well said, i agree.

[chuff me dizzy]

But once again, you haven't offered anything concrete.

You seem to be fixated on the fact she is attention seeking and playing the victim and I was just interested in seeing if you had anything to actually back it up with.

I could quite easily say Josie is playing a game and attention seeking.. don't know why and nothing to back it up with, I just don't like her so might aswell make every single thing she does seem as bad as possible.. but I dont, because I'd rather make an opinion based on evidence (whether I like the person or not), not preconceived thoughts.
TO back up the well known FACT she is a stupid fugly attention seeking brat ,you have to watch the show ,but to get a true picture of Arkle take off your rose tinted specs first

[chuff me dizzy]

well said, i agree.

Seconded ,JJ DID tell her if she threw water on him and his bed he would throw her in the pool, she carried on .......end of saga

[chuff me dizzy]

If you cant do the time,dont do the crime !!!

[Stacey.]

:joker: He's funny.

[MeMyselfAndI]

i love JJ and SS :laugh2:

[WOMBAI]

well said, i agree.

His actions were disproportionate to hers - which is an important consideration!

[chuff me dizzy]

His actions were disproportionate to hers - which is an important consideration!

He told her several times that if she threw water on him he would throw her in the pool ,she carried on ,because if he DID throw her in the pool she KNEW it would be in the hls ,everything she does is for attention including dressing up today like a total twat

[WOMBAI]

He told her several times that if she threw water on him he would throw her in the pool ,she carried on ,because if he DID throw her in the pool she KNEW it would be in the hls ,everything she does is for attention including dressing up today like a total twat

Don't think we are ever going to see eye-to-eye on this - but I think she was just trying to have a laugh! He over-reacted - possibly causing her major embarrassment. As far as I am concerned - there are far bigger attention-seekers than her in there - I think she is pretty controlled considering!

[chuff me dizzy]

Don't think we are ever going to see eye-to-eye on this - but I think she was just trying to have a laugh! He over-reacted - possibly causing her major embarrassment. As far as I am concerned - there are far bigger attention-seekers than her in there - I think she is pretty controlled considering!

WRONG she was doing her daily,boring "Look at me "routine

[chuff me dizzy]

Don't think we are ever going to see eye-to-eye on this - but I think she was just trying to have a laugh! He over-reacted - possibly causing her major embarrassment. As far as I am concerned - there are far bigger attention-seekers than her in there - I think she is pretty controlled considering!

IF she was so worried about her honour to the outside world why didnt she go to Primark and buy a pair of jamas or a longer nighty than the one she brought in which just covers her ass ? £5 would have sorted her honour out ,IF I didnt want to bring dishonour upon myself I would not walk around the house like she does in a tiny nighty

[WOMBAI]

IF she was so worried about her honour to the outside world why didnt she go to Primark and buy a pair of jamas or a longer nighty than the one she brought in which just covers her ass ? £5 would have sorted her honour out ,IF I didnt want to bring dishonour upon myself I would not walk around the house like she does in a tiny nighty

She wasn't exactly parading around - they were in the bedroom going to bed. She wasn't expecting all that to happen was she! And besides - there still seems to be confusion about whether she had knickers on or not - personally I would be very surprised if she didn't! Maybe they got pulled down - when JJ was dragging her along the floor!

[BB_Eye]

As a layperson, I don't think attention seekers are the sorts of people that confide in one person they trust. They will run into a room bursting into tears so everyone will know it or lay it on really thick how they are being "persecuted". I don't really buy this "Sunshine is playing the victim" malarky.

[chuff me dizzy]

She wasn't exactly parading around - they were in the bedroom going to bed. She wasn't expecting all that to happen was she! And besides - there still seems to be confusion about whether she had knickers on or not - personally I would be very surprised if she didn't! Maybe they got pulled down - when JJ was dragging her along the floor!

She has worn this same nighty from day one ,she does not just put it on as she gets into bed ,it IS revealing if you dont want to draw attention to yourself

[chuff me dizzy]

As a layperson, I don't think attention seekers are the sorts of people that confide in one person they trust. They will run into a room bursting into tears so everyone will know it or lay it on really thick how they are being "persecuted". I don't really buy this "Sunshine is playing the victim" malarky.

But THAT is exactly what she does ,she draws a crowd around her ,she seeks everyone out

[vesavius]

As a layperson, I don't think attention seekers are the sorts of people that confide in one person they trust. They will run into a room bursting into tears so everyone will know it or lay it on really thick how they are being "persecuted". I don't really buy this "Sunshine is playing the victim" malarky.

Which is exactly what she did, though I admit she couldnt quite conjure up the fake tears :joker:

[MrWong]

Sunstroke was flirting, in the really awkward, rubbish way that she does because she's not used to male attention.

She pushed it too far and ended up crying.

The End.

[chuff me dizzy]

Sunstroke was flirting, in the really awkward, rubbish way that she does because she's not used to male attention.

She pushed it too far and ended up crying.

The End.

With a face like is there any wonder men dont look at her,never mind her vile selfish attitude

[chuff me dizzy]

Which is exactly what she did, though I admit she couldnt quite conjure up the fake tears :joker:

Wait for the hls ,she may have squeezed a couple out in the dr just for effect

[vesavius]

Wait for the hls ,she may have squeezed a couple out in the dr just for effect

No doubt she will be presented as the 'victim'... BB seem to have that story in mind for her if the earlier edits have been anything to go by. :yuk:

This is why I love LF, the truth is harder to hide.

[BB_Eye]

But THAT is exactly what she does ,she draws a crowd around her ,she seeks everyone out

Again, I just don't see it. Attention-seekers are bullies and have the manipulative skills to establish a support base early on. Remember the way Jennifer whipped up her lackeys into an emotional frenzy over her smudged painting a couple of seasons back? Do you really think Sunshine is capable of that?

[vesavius]

Again, I just don't see it. Attention-seekers are bullies and have the manipulative skills to establish a support base early on. Remember the way Jennifer whipped up her lackeys into an emotional frenzy over her smudged painting a couple of seasons back? Do you really think Sunshine is capable of that?

Attention seekers come in many many flavours. There isnt one definition tbh.

[MrWong]

Again, I just don't see it. Attention-seekers are bullies and have the manipulative skills to establish a support base early on. Remember the way Jennifer whipped up her lackeys into an emotional frenzy over her smudged painting a couple of seasons back? Do you really think Sunshine is capable of that?

Attention seekers are attention seekers.

They don't have to be bullies, just insecure *****wits that have to 'play up' to get noticed. Otherwise she'd be wallpaper that everyone would ignore. :sleep:

[BB_Eye]

Attention seekers come in many many flavours. There isnt one definition tbh.

So then you agree she isn't being unfair on JJ and that she is actually quite harmless?

[vesavius]

So then you agree she isn't being unfair on JJ and that she is actually quite harmless?

I can't see how you took that from what I said :conf:

I think the fact that her grandstanding and emoing could have gotten another HM unfairly ejected makes her far from harmless.

[MrWong]

I can't see how you took that from what I said :conf:

I think the fact that her grandstanding and emoing could have gotten another HM unfairly ejected makes her far from harmless.

Yep, she's come over as rather sinister.

[video_kid]

She's really starting to annoy me now as a housemate in general - I want her to go this week.

[WOMBAI]

Yep, she's come over as rather sinister.

What bull! Nothing sinister about her - that is all in your head!

[MrWong]

What bull! Nothing sinister about her - that is all in your head!

Nah, it was all on the live feed.

Didn't you watch it???

[chuff me dizzy]

Nah, it was all on the live feed.

Didn't you watch it???

No she didnt

[vesavius]

No she didnt

As didnt most of the Shunny defenders :bawling:

[WOMBAI]

No she didnt

Oooh!

[chuff me dizzy]

I can't see how you took that from what I said :conf:

I think the fact that her grandstanding and emoing could have gotten another HM unfairly ejected makes her far from harmless.

That is what has made JJ so mad ,and rightly so ,she could so eaily have had him removed ,he was called to the DR as far as I could gather by what was said today HOLD IT ,just shown JJ on bblb getting a warning over it ,That is BANG OUT OF ORDER ,she is one scheming cow ,this is war now between me and the vile bitch :mad::mad::mad::mad: how dare she get him a warning ? how dare she

[vesavius]

That is what has made JJ so mad ,and rightly so ,she could so eaily have had him removed ,he was called to the DR as far as I could gather by what was said today HOLD IT ,just shown JJ on bblb getting a warning over it ,That is BANG OUT OF ORDER ,she is one scheming cow ,this is war now between me and the vile bitch :mad::mad::mad::mad: how dare she get him a warning ? how dare she

Go go Chuffy lol :cheer:

[chuff me dizzy]

Go go Chuffy lol :cheer:

This is NOT because its JJ its because IMO grasses are lower than worms tits

[MrWong]

No she didnt

Oh geez, figures. :rolleyes:

[BB_Eye]

I can't see how you took that from what I said :conf:

I think the fact that her grandstanding and emoing could have gotten another HM unfairly ejected makes her far from harmless.

The decision to eject JJ would depend entirely on what he did. The cameras don't lie.

But I seriously doubt this will or should happen and I think Sunshine would agree.

[chuff me dizzy]

The decision to eject JJ would depend entirely on what he did. The cameras don't lie.

But I seriously doubt this will or should happen and I think Sunshine would agree.

if she put a compliant in they would have to act on it ,FACT

[chuff me dizzy]

Oh geez, figures. :rolleyes:

I know ,bleated all day about a Sainthood for the scheming ugly ho then comes out she never even saw the lf

[Jords]

If any of you saw BBLB, Sunshine didnt seem that bad in the DR after, she just asked if she was flashing that please not to show it. :)

[chuff me dizzy]

If any of you saw BBLB, Sunshine didnt seem that bad in the DR after, she just asked if she was flashing that please not to show it. :)

She was in there last night for over half an hour ,they showed 1 minute on BBLB so you do not know what else she said

[Julie10]

Trying to be as objective as possible here, I haven't seen the LF so I'm just going by what I've heard in this thread. If it is true that JJ warned her before she threw water on him, then she deserves what she got.

Hypothetical situation: If I tell a guy I'm going to punch him in the stomach, and he warns me that if I do, he is going to kick my ass, what right in the world do I have to complain when that man makes good on his promise and beats me to a bloody pulp?

It makes no sense to me whatsoever that someone would defend SS in this situation. She did something to JJ that he obviously didn't want to happen to him. He gave it back to her in return. Why is he the bad guy in this situation? If SS didn't want to end up in the pool, she shouldn't have thrown water on JJ, simple as that.



That is the second time he has thrown her in the water today. The first time she banged her knee the second time she scraped her leg. He should have thrown water back at her. But oh no that wasn't enough for spiteful sulky JJ.

Why take it to a different level and do something silly and potentially dangerous by throwing her in the pool? He threw her in the pool because he knew she was upset at getting her hair wet the last time.

Regardless of the situation that resulted in this he chose to be more spiteful just to hurt her because he wants to get his kicks out of doing it. Weirdo!:nono:

[GabrielleisLove]

I'm beginning to see a pattern with John James. He targets one of the nominees and then waits and sees if they are evicted to test his popularity. Think about it, he did it the first week and Rachael was evicted. He tried to do the same to Ben last week. And this week he is trying to wind Sunshine up. For someone who abhors "gameplayers", he is proving to be one himself.

[vesavius]

If any of you saw BBLB, Sunshine didnt seem that bad in the DR after, she just asked if she was flashing that please not to show it. :)

Jords, did you hear what she was saying when she was telling Corin about her DR visit after?

She obviously went out of her way to make this as bad as possible for JJ.

[WOMBAI]

Jords, did you hear what she was saying when she was telling Corin about her DR visit after?

She obviously went out of her way to make this as bad as possible for JJ.

What like JJ did when he went running in the DR after his convo with Dave about Dave putting him up if he won the task! Seemed an obvious attempt to get Dave into trouble!

[vesavius]

What like JJ did when he went running in the DR after his convo with Dave about Dave putting him up if he won the task! Seemed an obvious attempt to get Dave into trouble!

This thread isnt about what JJ did in that situation, it's about what Shunshine did in this one.

Stay on topic please? :nono:

[WOMBAI]

This thread isnt about what JJ did in that situation, it's about what Shunshine did in this one.

Stay on topic please? :nono:

You can't condemn one without the other! And we don't even know what SS said in the DR - we do know what JJ said!

[vesavius]

You can't condemn one without the other! And we don't even know what SS said in the DR - we do know what JJ said!

Please, if you want to talk about that situation make a new thread and I will join it.

Don't try to hijack this one?

[Jords]

Jords, did you hear what she was saying when she was telling Corin about her DR visit after?

She obviously went out of her way to make this as bad as possible for JJ.

Now why would she do that?

I heard it and she just told Corin what happened and Corin suggested that althought their flirting is fun they should stop because JJ cant take a joke - stop trying to twist things.

[Niall]

Am I the only one who, 20 minutes after of finding out her minge got flashed, is still laughing at it?? :joker:

[Jords]

Am I the only one who, 20 minutes after of finding out her minge got flashed, is still laughing at it?? :joker:

I was laughing all last night, but people are twisting things on here to make Sunshine sound bad when she was having a lot of fun last night until she thought her vadge flashed.

[vesavius]

Now why would she do that?

Because she is... wait for it... an attention seeking drama *****?

You have been reading this thread right? :joker:


I heard it and she just told Corin what happened and Corin suggested that althought their flirting is fun they should stop because JJ cant take a joke - stop trying to twist things.

Let me see if I can find a log of the LF last night, you obviously arnt going to be prepared to take anyone elses word on things.

[Jords]

Sunshine is friends with JJ, she will not want to have gotten him in trouble! Today she was the one who tried getting them to sort things out, JJ just went on and on like usual.

You are a Josie fan, you must be very aware hes been like this with her..........

[Lucy.]

Do you think they will show this on the hl show? I wanna see what happened.

[chuff me dizzy]

Jords, did you hear what she was saying when she was telling Corin about her DR visit after?

She obviously went out of her way to make this as bad as possible for JJ.

I went to bed before it came out ,it had been in there well over half an hour when I went up ,what did it say to Corin ?

[chuff me dizzy]

Do you think they will show this on the hl show? I wanna see what happened.

It will be edited down

[Brekkie]

Hated her the first couple of weeks, but was beginning to warm to her considering how she handled herself over "crispgate" - but no, gut instinct was right - she just can't handle an adult friendship and as soon as you become her friend she is ready to play the victim card.

No way at all JJ should have been reprimanded for last night - we've seen that sort of horse-play every year and if you're not up for it, you shouldn't be in there. It seems he even warned her too and yet she still provoked him - and then goes off crying about it.


Really hope now she gets the boot on Friday - one of the most vile HMs of all time.

[kelswife]

Shes a pain in the backside, if you can dish it out you should expect to get it back.....horse!!!!!!!!!!!!!
:dance2:

[chuff me dizzy]

Hated her the first couple of weeks, but was beginning to warm to her considering how she handled herself over "crispgate" - but no, gut instinct was right - she just can't handle an adult friendship and as soon as you become her friend she is ready to play the victim card.

No way at all JJ should have been reprimanded for last night - we've seen that sort of horse-play every year and if you're not up for it, you shouldn't be in there. It seems he even warned her too and yet she still provoked him - and then goes off crying about it.


Really hope now she gets the boot on Friday - one of the most vile HMs of all time.

Agree with everything you say ,apart from you thought she handled crispgate well ,That was when my dislike of her turn to "cant bear the sight or sound of her"she acted like an utter brat ,last night was disgraceful she should her true self and now as all the hm8s against her ,serves her right

[chuff me dizzy]

Shes a pain in the backside, if you can dish it out you should expect to get it back.....horse!!!!!!!!!!!!!
:dance2:

Please apologise to horses everywhere who will be hurt and offended by this

[WOMBAI]

Hated her the first couple of weeks, but was beginning to warm to her considering how she handled herself over "crispgate" - but no, gut instinct was right - she just can't handle an adult friendship and as soon as you become her friend she is ready to play the victim card.

No way at all JJ should have been reprimanded for last night - we've seen that sort of horse-play every year and if you're not up for it, you shouldn't be in there. It seems he even warned her too and yet she still provoked him - and then goes off crying about it.


Really hope now she gets the boot on Friday - one of the most vile HMs of all time.

JJ has done his fair share of crying and telling tales - pretty good at playing the 'victim' himself! What goes around, comes around! :hugesmile:

[Brekkie]

That's fair enough, but he dealt with it with the people concerned - not running off to BB!

[chuff me dizzy]

That's fair enough, but he dealt with it with the people concerned - not running off to BB!

:thumbs:

[WOMBAI]

That's fair enough, but he dealt with it with the people concerned - not running off to BB!

Actually he did run to the DR to tell tales on Dave over the nominations and Dave telling him he would put him up if he won the task! It is very convenient how so many seem to have forgotten about that!

[vesavius]

That's fair enough, but he dealt with it with the people concerned - not running off to BB!

Brekkie, don't fall for this.

Shunshines supporters here constantly try and move the debate away from her and her behaviour and on to other HMs as a deflection tactic because they can't condone her actions. It's all they have.

Ignore them :)

Back on topic though....

Shunny herself on LF admits she overreacted, got carried away, and that she was in the wrong in how she dealt with things last night, it's time for her fans here to do the same imo.

I mean, it hasnt stopped her carrying on playing the victim, but underneath that 'I'm so happy and glittery' fake facade thats all she has. We have seen her clearly now.

[Brekkie]

He wasn't going in saying BB should tell him off about it though - he wasn't even moaning about it, he was just expressing his shock that Dave had said it and analysing it from a gameplaying point of view - not saying he is being personally victimised.

[chuff me dizzy]

Brekkie, don't fall for this.

Shunshines supporters here constantly try and move the debate away from her and her behaviour and on to other HMs as a deflection tactic because they can't condone her actions. It's all they have.

Ignore them :)

Back on topic though....

Shunny herself on LF admits she overreacted, got carried away, and that she was in the wrong in how she dealt with things last night, it's time for her fans here to do the same imo.

I mean, it hasnt stopped her carrying on playing the victim, but underneath that 'I'm so happy and glittery' fake facade thats all she has. We have seen her clearly now.
I have seen the "real her" for a long while now ,and its not nice ,Her cuz and the rest of the family have done more damage than good with the over the top fawning on here ,they think we are stupid and like them dont even watch the show ,how silly do they look ?have you had trouble signing in to your channel 4 account? i have been trying for over half an hour now ,keeps going back to sing in page? im starting to get mad now :devil::devil::devil:

[chuff me dizzy]

He wasn't going in saying BB should tell him off about it though - he wasn't even moaning about it, he was just expressing his shock that Dave had said it and analysing it from a gameplaying point of view - not saying he is being personally victimised.

Or the forums favourite word BULLIED

[vesavius]

I have seen the "real her" for a long while now ,and its not nice ,Her cuz and the rest of the family have done more damage than good with the over the top fawning on here ,they think we are stupid and like them dont even watch the show ,how silly do they look ?have you had trouble signing in to your channel 4 account? i have been trying for over half an hour now ,keeps going back to sing in page? im starting to get mad now :devil::devil::devil:

No chuff mine is fine...

[WOMBAI]

He wasn't going in saying BB should tell him off about it though - he wasn't even moaning about it, he was just expressing his shock that Dave had said it and analysing it from a gameplaying point of view - not saying he is being personally victimised.

No-one knows what SS said in the DR - lot of assumptions being made here again - no surprises there then! :rolleyes:

And John was more clever than that - he just drew attention to it - then, if it backfired on him, he could turn around and say - I wasn't telling tales, just shocked at what he said! Yes John, of course you weren't!

[chuff me dizzy]

No chuff mine is fine...

Just tried again re-registered in my husbands name still keeps going back to sign in page ,im leaving it for tonight now if it doesnt work soon

[Joelle.]

Im sorry but how the **** is Sunshine vile??? I think you mean Caoimhe and Shabby when you use that word.

[Beso]

That's fair enough, but he dealt with it with the people concerned - not running off to BB!

i think she just went to the diary room to ask for the flange not to be shown on tv.

[BB_Eye]

Finally, some plurality of opinion.

[vesavius]

No-one knows what SS said in the DR - lot of assumptions being made here again - no surprises there then! :rolleyes:

*edited for attempting to drag the thread into talking about other HMs*


I am basing my judgement off what I heard her say to Corin in bed, no assumptions.

Shunshine has admitted she was wrong last night and that she over reacted, and that she regrets the damage (and possible damage) she caused in the cold light of day (all the while checking the camera ofc...), so why can't her supporters?

I mean, she is still a attention seeking drama *****, but at least she has accepted her part in it all.

[vesavius]

Just tried again re-registered in my husbands name still keeps going back to sign in page ,im leaving it for tonight now if it doesnt work soon

Good luck :flower:

[chuff me dizzy]

I am basing my judgement off what I heard her say to Corin in bed, no assumptions.

Shunshine has admitted she was wrong last night and that she over reacted, and that she regrets the damage (and possible damage) she caused in the cold light of day (all the while checking the camera ofc...), so why can't her supporters?

I mean, she is still a attention seeking drama *****, but at least she has accepted her part in it all.

i doubt very much she "regrets the damage"it gave her what she thrives on and craves ,ATTENTION

[chuff me dizzy]

Good luck :flower:

still wont work ,sod it

[WOMBAI]

I am basing my judgement off what I heard her say to Corin in bed, no assumptions.

Shunshine has admitted she was wrong last night and that she over reacted, and that she regrets the damage (and possible damage) she caused in the cold light of day (all the while checking the camera ofc...), so why can't her supporters?

I mean, she is still a attention seeking drama *****, but at least she has accepted her part in it all.

Well I hope the other party involved has been as gracious and accepted his part in it - I won't hold my breath though!

[LBB11]

I dont think John James should not have got in troble he told her not to and she did, i think she broke down with the stress of the house havent seen her cry properly till tonight, just my HO

[billy123]

she isnt mentally mature enough to be in the house they should remove her for her own good.

[WOMBAI]

she isnt mentally mature enough to be in the house they should remove her for her own good.

And JJ and Shabby are!

[oddballmisfitsFTW]

BB giving warning to JJ was pathetic

did Liam ever get a warning for throwin around Samanda

[vesavius]

she isnt mentally mature enough to be in the house they should remove her for her own good.

I think she knows exactly what she is doing, probably been pulling the same tricks all her adult life.

That little scene in the DR was so telling.

[Brekkie]

I don't know who is worse - Sunshine or the producers for falling for it. Considering JJ got a much undeserved reprimand when Sunshine started it and provoked it, how come she didn't get reprimanded similarly.

She's been the vilest of the vile tonight - her actions in the diary room showed she is not mentally capable to be in the house, and her apparent concern over what is shown should be ignored by BB. If she was so concerned she shouldn't have even auditioned - and BB should not be making concessions to reassure her. It's nothing like that which will affect her future career - it's her behaviour and demeanour in the house. I'd rather die than be treated by Sunshine.


The real telling point though was yet again her trying to twist the situation, saying she took it as fun while John James couldn't take the joke. John James wasn't the one running to the diary room now was he.

[Brekkie]

Some comments from twitter:


# but I didn't see anything that I thought was THAT bad? Did I miss something!? (chatting with cuz) 4 minutes ago via TweetDeck

# was it not just hi jinx? 7 minutes ago via TweetDeck

# what did jj do to warrant a warning? 7 minutes ago via TweetDeck


That's Davina McCall's twitter BTW!

[Jords]

Edit the title.

She played the 'my vagina flashed' card not the 'victim' card.

[WOMBAI]

I don't know who is worse - Sunshine or the producers for falling for it. Considering JJ got a much undeserved reprimand when Sunshine started it and provoked it, how come she didn't get reprimanded similarly.

She's been the vilest of the vile tonight - her actions in the diary room showed she is not mentally capable to be in the house, and her apparent concern over what is shown should be ignored by BB. If she was so concerned she shouldn't have even auditioned - and BB should not be making concessions to reassure her. It's nothing like that which will affect her future career - it's her behaviour and demeanour in the house. I'd rather die than be treated by Sunshine.


The real telling point though was yet again her trying to twist the situation, saying she took it as fun while John James couldn't take the joke. John James wasn't the one running to the diary room now was he.

Not this time no - he has already been there and done that, got the teeshirt - so to speak!

[p3bbl3z]

Maybe after the incidents with Rachael, Ben, Dave and Sunshine etc BB thought they had to do something to look like they weren't allowing him to continually attack other housemates

[vesavius]

Edit the title.

She played the 'my vagina flashed' card not the 'victim' card.

I will compromise...

She played the 'I wanted something to kick off about because I had a drink or two and needed the attention so I overreacted about maybe showing my knickers and pretended to be a victim' card.

Better? :joker:

[Brekkie]

Maybe after the incidents with Rachael, Ben, Dave and Sunshine etc BB thought they had to do something to look like they weren't allowing him to continually attack other housemates
Nobody thought that though - apart from Rachael John James has been the victim in those cases, and handled himself much better than he did in the first week.

It is not Big Brother's place to interfere in such matters until a line is seriously crossed - and we've not come close at all to that line this series. Sunshine though would rather tell tales or hide behind a fake smile then bitch and sulk rather than address any concerns like grown ups.

Indeed JJ has already apologised (for nothing) before she ran to the diary room - but despite saying "that's fine" as she did with Ben in the first week she then had to go and make a big deal out of it to get more and more attention.

[chuff me dizzy]

I think she knows exactly what she is doing, probably been pulling the same tricks all her adult life.

That little scene in the DR was so telling.

oh yes , I bet her school friends(if she had any) could tell a few stories because what she did in the dr she had defo done before,Its just a pity BB has lost its shine in the media or who knows what would have come out ,I remeember in the first few days (i think it was the day after"my dead Mam,Grandma,Grandad... and the day before "i got crap gse`s but my Mam made a phone call and now im in medical school) she CLAIMED she had been bullied at school because she was ugly ,but a few days before on her vt on coming into the house she said ,and I remember because i had to change my knickers with laughing"Im here to prove brains and beauty go together"she is the type of frsak who one day will cry rape

[Brekkie]

Exactly - she's got no chance of getting laid when she gets out as no man will want to run the risk. Then again refuse and you're probably at her mercy.

[nastynorrie]

omg i would slap that girl down, what an attention seeking wee bun, and why was mario not brought back into the d/r he held her legs, as for the cut bollocks it was a wee carpet burn

[chuff me dizzy]

Exactly - she's got no chance of getting laid when she gets out as no man will want to run the risk. Then again refuse and you're probably at her mercy.

She is a certain "cry rape" bird

[WOMBAI]

Exactly - she's got no chance of getting laid when she gets out as no man will want to run the risk. Then again refuse and you're probably at her mercy.

OMG - OTT or what! You all talk about her over-reactions - when you are all now implying she is someone who cries rape! Pot and kettle ...

[Jords]

I will compromise...

She played the 'I wanted something to kick off about because I had a drink or two and needed the attention so I overreacted about maybe showing my knickers and pretended to be a victim' card.

Better? :joker:

Noooo, far too long! :joker:

[rusticgal]

To be fair to her she did ask him to stop and he didn't stop

Well he didnt ask her to pour a bottle of water over his head...she just did it.It all backfired and she couldnt deal with the consequences.You do something like that to someone be prepared for what you get... its not like he got nasty... stupid cow!!

[jools]

seems several points are being missed.1.he didnt throw her in the pool,as in, she didnt end up in the water.2.she didnt flash her fanny3.she was wearing underwear...she said said she was wearing french knickers.
if she was so worried about her credibility as a future doctor,why go on bb in the first place.
i agree jj does go well over the top a lot of the time,but as corin pointed out,everyone knows he is like that,so why go back for more.

[lynette]

If Sunshine is really SOOOOOOOO concerned about what would be shown, and how it could affect her career as a doctor, why did she bother to audition for BB in the first place?

TBH she wanted more airtime and it backfired on her.

[starry]

The anti-Sunshine people and JJ are getting alot more worked up about this than her. That's the irony. She asked whether anything was seen on TV, perfectly reasonable. And JJ was too rough, she got bruises all over her legs.

[Big Brother Fan]

its not fair!! She was in shock!!!! :)

[vesavius]

The anti-Sunshine people and JJ are getting alot more worked up about this than her. That's the irony. She asked whether anything was seen on TV, perfectly reasonable. And JJ was too rough, she got bruises all over her legs.

No, the irony is that her defenders still defending her when she long ago gave up defending herself. :joker:

[Brekkie]

If Sunshine is really SOOOOOOOO concerned about what would be shown, and how it could affect her career as a doctor, why did she bother to audition for BB in the first place?

Exactly. The thing that annoys me most is she is so concerned about protecting her own reputation she couldn't care less about how she affects the reputation of others around her - as obviously their careers and friends/family on the outside world are far less important than hers.


Her actions that night basically led to a housemate being accused of assault - and unlike in the real world it seems within the Big Brother house JJ had no real option to defend himself, or for others around him to put in their views of the situation. If it had been a work place disciplinary I'd like to think the truth would have been established very quickly and no official disciplinary action would have been taken.


P.S. Worth noting that C4 have now removed the article relating to last nights show, full of comments defending JJ and saying how wrong BB were to reprimand him.

[nastynorrie]

It is possible that she didn't expect him to drag her around the room......which was probably naive considering he likes dragging people about. :hugesmile:

:bawling: THE STUPID DRAMA QUEEN HAD KNICKERS ON, SHE WAS AN ATTENTION SEEKING DAFT WEE BUN :devil:

[vesavius]

What a fantastic result tonight that reflects what many in this thread have been saying.

So glad to see the victim card defeated for once :dance: