One question

[setanta]

Would the way one of your friends views a person dictate how you act towards them, particularly when you've seen where the problem arose and still had fun and been friendly with said person in the first place?

[Jessica.]

If my friend has a problem with someone I have a problem with that person.

[setanta]

If my friend has a problem with someone I have a problem with that person.

That's not how it works though, particularly when you have no problem with the person yourself and were talking to them freely prior to that.

[Stacey.]

Not really. That's up to them of what they think of the person, wouldn't let that affect the way I see them.

[Jessica.]

That's not how it works though, particularly when you have no problem with the person yourself and were talking to them freely prior to that.

What are you on about? Are you talking about something particular? I was just answering the question.. :S

[setanta]

Not really. That's up to them of what they think of the person, wouldn't let that affect the way I see them.

Yep, that's the way I see it too Stacey.

[setanta]

What are you on about? Are you talking about something particular? I was just answering the question.. :S

Don't play dumb Stacey lol.

[Shaun]

I'm not one for pack mentality.

[Jessica.]

Don't play dumb Stacey lol.

That's not my name you eejit! I honestly don't have a clue what you are talking about.

[setanta]

I'm not one for pack mentality.

Nor am I, but I'll fight it.

[setanta]

That's not my name you eejit! I honestly don't have a clue what you are talking about.

Sorry about the name thing, but you kno darling, you kno.

[MissKittyFantastico]

I don't think you should really be bringing personal issues here James. It seems like you're looking for an argument again tbh.

[MrGaryy]

Well if it was a person who I had nothing to do with and didn't converse with often I would just be like, whatever, I wouldn't join in bitching sessions or whatever but I wouldn't reject that person if they were to make an effort with me just because of my friend's opinion with them.

But if it was someone I was involved with as well as being involved with my friend who had a problem with them I would probably just choose a side. I find it makes life easier. Plus I find fence sitting irritating.

[DrunkerThanMoses]

Ah I had this situation not long ago, two of my friends were fighting and the one said stuff about the other that I thought had some truth to it, but I still liked them both the same.

[setanta]

I don't think you should really be bringing personal issues here James. It seems like you're looking for an argument again tbh.

Whatever Michelle. It's a fairly open question.

[setanta]

Well if it was a person who I had nothing to do with and didn't converse with often I would just be like, whatever, I wouldn't join in bitching sessions or whatever but I wouldn't reject that person if they were to make an effort with me just because of my friend's opinion with them.

But if it was someone I was involved with as well as being involved with my friend who had a problem with them I would probably just choose a side. I find it makes life easier. Plus I find fence sitting irritating.

But what if you've been friendly with the said person and then cut him off just because of something your friend said? What if the majority sided with some bullshi$ reason your friend came up with to turn everybody's backs on him/her?

[MrGaryy]

But what if you've been friendly with the said person and then cut him off just because of something your friend said? What if the majority sided with some bullshi$ reason your friend came up with to turn everybody's backs on him/her?

Well it depends of the severity of the situation obviously and if it was something really terrible or serious then I would obviously be less flippant with my actions but in the case of your average falling out, I find floating in the middle does you no favours in the end and just shows you up as being a bit vanilla. So I would side with the person I agreed with most in the knowledge it would probably be sorted in the end or at least to the degree that I would eventually be able to be friends with both, post argument.

[setanta]

Well it depends of the severity of the situation obviously and if it was something really terrible or serious then I would obviously be less flippant with my actions but in the case of your average falling out, I find floating in the middle does you no favours in the end and just shows you up as being a bit vanilla. So I would side with the person I agreed with most in the knowledge it would probably be sorted in the end or at least to the degree that I would eventually be able to be friends with both, post argument.

Nothing terrible, nothing serious, and it has been apologized over.

[MrGaryy]

Nothing terrible, nothing serious, and it has been apologized over.

*wasn't aware this was related to a current issue*

well in that case I suppose I would just be friendly towards both. But my point is that if it came down to it at crunch time, I would without a doubt just choose a side. And I usually respect people for doing that.

[setanta]

*wasn't aware this was related to a current issue*

well in that case I suppose I would just be friendly towards both. But my point is that if it came down to it at crunch time, I would without a doubt just choose a side. And I usually respect people for doing that.

Yeah, so would I, but what about when it occurs over the net and somebody is just banished because of it, even though they've been talking to the others with no problem prior to this and then suddenly find themselves ostracized?

[MrGaryy]

Yeah, so would I, but what about when it occurs over the net and somebody is just banished because of it, even though they've been talking to the others with no problem prior to this and then suddenly find themselves ostracized?

[might I just add that with all due respect unless you name names this is starting to look a tad petty, but I'll continue for the sake of it.]

If it happened over the net I would probably be even more definitive about it. At the end of the day these people dont have to speak to each other and makes little difference to their lives whether or not they do. While there's no need to make it a dead awkward thing for others around by being rude or nasty to the person, I wouldn't bother making the effort to get around the issue because there's not really any need to in my opinion. I would just ignore them furthermore.

[setanta]

[might I just add that with all due respect unless you name names this is starting to look a tad petty, but I'll continue for the sake of it.]

If it happened over the net I would probably be even more definitive about it. At the end of the day these people dont have to speak to each other and makes little difference to their lives whether or not they do. While there's no need to make it a dead awkward thing for others around by being rude or nasty to the person, I wouldn't bother making the effort to get around the issue because there's not really any need to in my opinion. I would just ignore them furthermore.

Yep, and I probably will. It just hurts when you try to be nice and then are cut off because of what one person thinks of you, you know that way?

[Jessica.]

Sorry about the name thing, but you kno darling, you kno.

D: I would prefer if you didn't call me darling.

[setanta]

D: I would prefer if you didn't call me darling.

Says your one who had no problem talking to me about 2 days ago. Grow up hun, really.

[MrGaryy]

Yep, and I probably will. It just hurts when you try to be nice and then are cut off because of what one person thinks of you, you know that way?

Yeah I understand what you mean but if I were you I wouldn't let it bother me. I mean at the end of the day it's all fonts and avatars. These people don't know you and make no difference to your life so **** em, I say.

[I say this not knowing who they are so sorry if I just insulted someone I like. But then again, they're obviously a lame mess, so I don't really care if that offended you or not.]

[setanta]

Yeah I understand what you mean but if I were you I wouldn't let it bother me. I mean at the end of the day it's all fonts and avatars. These people don't know you and make no difference to your life so **** em, I say.

[I say this not knowing who they are so sorry if I just insulted someone I like. But then again, they're obviously a lame mess, so I don't really care if that offended you or not.]

It's not particularly bothering me really; I just think they've proven to me how gimpy they are, you know that way?

[Jessica.]

Says your one who had no problem talking to me about 2 days ago. Grow up hun, really.

I always have a problem with you, I was just being civilized because I don't want an argument all the time. I would prefer of you called me by my name, your little pet names are creepy.

[MissKittyFantastico]

If you dont care why have you made a thread about the whole issue?

You're the one being pathetic at this point over something you claim not to even be bothered about.

[setanta]

If you dont care why have you made a thread about the whole issue?

You're the one being pathetic at this point over something you claim not to even be bothered about.

I'm not being pathetic at all... I'm just proving how pathetic you lot are.

[MrGaryy]

Well I may as well be nosy. I assume this is about Michelle, Niamh, Jords, ect. crew?

[MissKittyFantastico]

I'm not being pathetic at all... I'm just proving how pathetic you lot are.

Yes but you're not bothered by it so you say, so why make a whole very thinly veiled thread looking for attention on a subject that doesn't even concern anyone else? Totally unnecessary and like I said obviously either looking for an argument or for affirmation from other FM's on how you feel you've been slighted in some way. Why not just leave it alone and get on with it.

[InOne]

James, I thought you knew the reasons anyway? Why bitch about it now. What point are you trying to make by posting this thread?

[Jessica.]

Well I may as well be nosy. I assume this is about Michelle, Niamh, Jords, ect. crew?

I honestly didn't have a clue what it was about until like a minute ago, Jords isn't involved at all, I wasn't but I seem to have been dragged into it somehow.

[setanta]

Yes but you're not bothered by it so you say, so why make a whole very thinly veiled thread looking for attention on a subject that doesn't even concern anyone else? Totally unnecessary and like I said obviously either looking for an argument or for affirmation from other FM's on how you feel you've been slighted in some way. Why not just leave it alone and get on with it.

Because I think it's interesting how a group of people will turn their backs on a person just because of the say so of one particular person, that's all. I think it's totally necessary to highlight it, particularly when you lot had no problem with me being in that chatroom prior to this. It's shameful for all of you. you know this!

[MrGaryy]

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[Smithy]

:laugh2:

[setanta]

James, I thought you knew the reasons anyway? Why bitch about it now. What point are you trying to make by posting this thread?

I'm posting it because of the very fact that I know the reasons for it.

[Jessica.]

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[MissKittyFantastico]

Because I think it's interesting how a group of people will turn their backs on a person just because of the say so of one particular person, that's all. I think it's totally necessary to highlight it, particularly when you lot had no problem with me being in that chatroom prior to this. It's shameful for all of you. you know this!

Well obviously people care more about 'a particular person' and how they feel than they do about someone who has had numerous arguments and been quite frankly vile to the rest of the people in there over recent months. Yes you came in and chatted on a couple of occasions but at the end of the day if 'said person' feels so uncomfortable that they wont chat with their friends as they usually do on a regular basis, then it's a pretty easy decision for people to make on where their loyalties lie really.

Anyway like you said, you don't care so I really do fail to understand why this is even still being discussed here.

[Shasown]

James it all depends on the circumstances, what was done and what was said.

I still like you though, couldnt give a **** about your political beliefs, football associations, musical tastes, or your criminal record.

You are right in that some people on this forum and in real life tend to behave like sheep and will go with someone elses opinion, but hey, were they really your friend in that case?

[setanta]

Well obviously people care more about 'a particular person' and how they feel than they do about someone who has had numerous arguments and been quite frankly vile to the rest of the people in there over recent months. Yes you came in and chatted on a couple of occasions but at the end of the day if 'said person' feels so uncomfortable that they wont chat with their friends as they usually do on a regular basis, then it's a pretty easy decision for people to make on where their loyalties lie really.

Anyway like you said, you don't care so I really do fail to understand why this is even still being discussed here.

Yes, so why didn't you highlight that on the many ocassions I was in ********? You're fencing here Michelle. You're bringing other situations into the scenario that have been dealt with, just like Niamh has done. This is a forum, people argue sometimes and people deal with it. This, on the otherhand, is crazy.

[setanta]

James it all depends on the circumstances, what was done and what was said.

I still like you though, couldnt give a **** about your political beliefs, football associations, musical tastes, or your criminal record.

You are right in that some people on this forum and in real life tend to behave like sheep and will go with someone elses opinion, but hey, were they really your friend in that case?

That's what I'm trying to understand Shasown. We've had our arguments in the past but I still read your comments and try to get involved with your conversations. I bare no ill towards you. But when somebody is ostracized for no reason other than the fact that they've crossed swords with one particular person (an altercation that I've apologized for by the way) then I have to take a stand.

[MissKittyFantastico]

Yes, so why didn't you highlight that on the many ocassions I was in ********? You're fencing here Michelle. You're bringing other situations into the scenario that have been dealt with, just like Niamh has done. This is a forum, people argue sometimes and people deal with it. This, on the otherhand, is crazy.

No I'm not, I'm telling you straight what the issue here is. People have chosen a side and are sticking with it, end of. No fencing or anything, that's it. And considering your past treatment of the people involved, I'd say that was a pretty easy and logical choice when it came down to the crunch. Niamh has done nothing wrong to any of us and is counted as a friend by everyone there, you on the other hand have given everyone reason at some time to dislike you. So when it came down to making a choice it was pretty darn easy. End of the matter.

[setanta]

No I'm not, I'm telling you straight what the issue here is. People have chosen a side and are sticking with it, end of. No fencing or anything, that's it. And considering your past treatment of the people involved, I'd say that was a pretty easy and logical choice when it came down to the crunch. Niamh has done nothing wrong to any of us and is counted as a friend by everyone there, you on the other hand have given everyone reason at some time to dislike you. So when it came down to making a choice it was pretty darn easy. End of the matter.

Are you really going to get into treatment here? This was one night, that's it, where i lost the rag because I'd been accused of so many hideous things. I'm sorry Michelle, but that's a fact. I lost the run of myself that night because I'd been accused of so much, incorrectly.

[setanta]

Anyway, what I'm talking about. lets get to the crunch. You had no problem talking to me before she came along................ do I have to go on?

[MissKittyFantastico]

Are you really going to get into treatment here? This was one night, that's it, where i lost the rag because I'd been accused of so many hideous things. I'm sorry Michelle, but that's a fact. I lost the run of myself that night because I'd been accused of so much, incorrectly.

I'm not talking about one night James, I'm talking about how you've been with pretty much everyone in there at different times over the past 6 months or so That is why it was very easy to choose between speaking to you in there and you feeling all fine and dandy and Niamh not wanting to speak in there because of you. That's the end of it.

[Smithy]

You were really mean to Stu to James :nono:

[Shasown]

That's what I'm trying to understand Shasown. We've had our arguments in the past but I still read your comments and try to get involved with your conversations. I bare no ill towards you. But when somebody is ostracized for no reason other than the fact that they've crossed swords with one particular person (an altercation that I've apologized for by the way) then I have to take a stand.


I bare no ill towards towards you either, and appreciate its mutual, we both fervantly believe things that are polar to each other yet we can still find mutual respect and a common ground.

As for crossing swords, **** mate i upset shed loads on here everyday, I make no apology for most of my postings. Even when I do apologise in most cases I coudnt really give a monkeys, I know I am right. Just as you do.

The English team is ****, who cares now, I said pretty much the same as you did cept I support the wankers. We both hate the hype built up around them. Yet we both see it from different sides. In the end, it doint mean nothing, there are bigger things to argue over.

[setanta]

I'm not talking about one night James, I'm talking about how you've been with pretty much everyone in there at different times over the past 6 months or so That is why it was very easy to choose between speaking to you in there and you feeling all fine and dandy and Niamh not wanting to speak in there because of you. That's the end of it.

And? And did we get on after that? And did we have a problem? And was I online with you for X amount of hours after that, chuckling away and having a good laugh? And did I apologize for one night were I lost the head?

You're bringing up various events to substantiate your banning of me and they don't hold water. And that's a fact.

[setanta]

I bare no ill towards towards you either, and appreciate its mutual, we both fervantly believe things that are polar to each other yet we can still find mutual respect and a common ground.

As for crossing swords, **** mate i upset shed loads on here everyday, I make no apology for most of my postings. Even when I do apologise in most cases I coudnt really give a monkeys, I know I am right. Just as you do.

The English team is ****, who cares now, I said pretty much the same as you did cept I support the wankers. We both hate the hype built up around them. Yet we both see it from different sides. In the end, it doint mean nothing, there are bigger things to argue over.

ExactafEmkimondo my friend.

[setanta]

You were really mean to Stu to James :nono:

Stu loves me , and that's a fact.

[Shasown]

ExactafEmkimondo my friend.

So reading the other posts thing to do is go back in accept you and others have areas you disagree over, but accept the commonality you have between you and build on that.

Its not hard believe me.

[setanta]

So reading the other posts thing to do is go back in accept you and others have areas you disagree over, but accept the commonality you have between you and build on that.

Its not hard believe me.

Nah, this is different my friend.

[MrGaryy]

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