Experimental music

[BB_Eye]

I think I'm in the mood for something more musically adventurous. The more it bugs the middle-aged, the better it probably is. :dance:

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[BB_Eye]

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[Simone.]

I kinda love this song, even though it's nothing like my usual taste.

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[LaLaLand]

I've always wanted to get into Zappa - could you tell me what his best tunes are or perhaps his most known?

[BB_Eye]

That male singer reminds me of Bobby Gillespie of Primal Scream.

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[BB_Eye]

I've always wanted to get into Zappa - could you tell me what his best tunes are or perhaps his most known?

The album Hot Rats is pretty quintessential Zappa. You might recognise this tune.

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[BB_Eye]

Apostrophe I also find to be really accessible and I suspect he was influenced by funk music, particularly George Clinton, at this point.

All in all, Zappa is very hard to pin down. I love some of his music, while I could go my whole life without ever listening to some of it again. His attempts to parody and lampoon the punk genre particularly miss the mark for me. He even tried his hand at modern composition, but I have yet to hear any of that.

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[King Gizzard]

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[BB_Eye]

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[BB_Eye]

Something more contemporary

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Just been getting into Diamanda Galas.

Think industrial dance meets noise meets performance art meets pornography meets casual blasphemy.

Not for the faint of heart in other words. :D

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[Mrluvaluva]

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[CaraRawr]

I kinda love this song, even though it's nothing like my usual taste.

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Aaah, they're a great band. I Love Turbulence is a tune.

[lol]

Avenged Sevenfold's self-titled album was quite experimental they said, so I'll extract a masterpiece from it.

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The story of the song is quite twisted and crazy, but they made the song out of nowhere, with no ideas or anything, they just wanted something unlike any of their other songs. And in my opinion, the orchestra and everything really fits the story.

[BB_Eye]

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Great choice. I should listen to more of Coil.

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[Mrluvaluva]

Great choice. I should listen to more of Coil.



You should look up Swans, Psychic TV, Foetus, Test Dept etc too if you haven't experienced anything by them before.

[BB_Eye]

You should look up Swans, Psychic TV, Foetus, Test Dept etc too if you haven't experienced anything by them before.

Thanks for the recommendations... I have the Swans' Children of God. Very much at the more hard rock end of industrial, but pretty good... and talk about dark.

As for Foetus, I have only checked out their recent stuff, but own none of their records. I think their earlier material might really be down my alley though as I like pretty much anything that could be classified as 'no-wave'.

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[Mrluvaluva]

As for Foetus, I have only checked out their recent stuff, but own none of their records. I think their earlier material might really be down my alley though as I like pretty much anything that could be classified as 'no-wave'.

Here is a very early single. Jim's 2nd from 1981. Hope you enjoy.

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[BB_Eye]

Here is a very early single. Jim's 2nd from 1981. Hope you enjoy.


That's incredible. Totally surpassed expectations. :shocked:
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[ange7]

"The more it bugs the middle-aged, the better it probably is."
lol .... all these links are retro....the "middle-aged" made this stuff.
Nintendo generation needs to get creative instead of making 70's and 80's music.

[BB_Eye]

"The more it bugs the middle-aged, the better it probably is."
lol .... all these links are retro....the "middle-aged" made this stuff.
Nintendo generation needs to get creative instead of making 70's and 80's music.

It was a joke. I just meant the middle-of-the-road demographic which is usually overwhelmingly older (although Take That's massive appreciation thread seems to suggest otherwise). Relax, music isn't the same as fashion.

And what do you mean by the Nintendo generation? I thought that was the 80's.

[ange7]

It was a joke. I just meant the middle-of-the-road demographic which is usually overwhelmingly older (although Take That's massive appreciation thread seems to suggest otherwise). Relax, music isn't the same as fashion.

And what do you mean by the Nintendo generation? I thought that was the 80's.
I'm relaxed ...
"Nintendo generation" ... so there's this theory right, it's that gamers have zero creativity. Their generation can't think of "a new sound"... instead it's all retro and same-y.

The flip side of the theory goes like this.... 30 and 40 somethings now a days are still music buyers where as in past ppl that age range weren't .... so "retro" is a market for them and lazy musicians got on board.

[BB_Eye]

I'm relaxed ...
"Nintendo generation" ... so there's this theory right, it's that gamers have zero creativity. Their generation can't think of "a new sound"... instead it's all retro and same-y.

Really? That in itself sounds like a relic from the 1980's and 90's when videogames were widely demonised for creating a generation of unimaginative ADD kids (with television not getting half of the same amount of stick). It doesn't matter either way. Very little electronic music was influenced by videogame sounds although the Commodore 64 is a popular source of samples ;). Electronic music has been around since at least the 1950's. Electronic dance music has been around since at least the early 1980's.

The flip side of the theory goes like this.... 30 and 40 somethings now a days are still music buyers where as in past ppl that age range weren't .... so "retro" is a market for them and lazy musicians got on board.The last 50 years of popular music has been rich with stylistic variety. It seems a shame not to look back on it. I agree with your sentiment that it's not ideal to be living in the past though.

[ange7]

The point about nintendo wasn't that gamer music influenced culture or modern music. It was that gaming is a passive experience where the action is brought to you ... sensory overload and all that. Less need to be creative hence the accusation that the nintendo generation "borrows" so much. The other argument makes more sense though ... the explosion of the "man child" or the "peter pan" theory of adults who don't ant to grow up. They're still buy music and they want 90's and 80's retro.
The point I'm making is for me "experimental" and "retro" are opposites. One is always looking back... the other is looking for new ways forward. ( cool so I am on topic hehe)

[BB_Eye]

And yet even a century after the introduction of atonal and avant-garde music, most of the artists I posted would sound bizarre and unwelcoming to anyone with a conventional understanding of music, who for all intents and purposes is still weaned on a 200 year old idea of what constitutes pleasant, enjoyable music.

I suppose in some respects, the likes of Wagner and Debussy sound exotic and avant-garde compared to what passes for most pop and rock music.

And then there is Schoenberg who I can't get my head around... bear in mind this is from 1912

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[ange7]

cool ...by retro I mean pop tunes from 60's to 08's or so. That list of composers is over my head. Modern composers who are experimental...?
arvo part is all I know. Nimen ( spelling) philip glass, Eno... all popular in there way. I mainly know them through movie soundtracks hehe. Like I said... over my head.

[ange7]

oops I mean film soundtracks

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