Ben is a poor excuse for a human being!!!

[camertone]

God Ben! I agree with Davina....DO THE TASKS! It's not as if the military guy was asking him to do something physically impossible. Don't like Dave, but credit where it is due, he at least is doing the task, and having a laugh about it. Personally I don't think the military guy should have given Ben a choice. Either do it or you are out.

i never liked ben! he has no backbone!
he came back and lied about how he chose who will take on his punishment!
ben is a selfish and a pathetic excuse for a human being.

mario realized that ben never was his friend and ben will throw him under bus at anytime, just like he did it to dave. ben doesn't care about anybody! that's why mario doesn't like ben anymore!

dave to ben: if you do that to your best friend, what do you do to your enemies?

ben always tries to justify himself and his actions with a bunch of bs.

ben thinks he does nothing wrong and never really sorry for his selfishness and wrongdoings.

ben never completes tasks and always complains.
ben is the worst housemate ever in bb history!

ben has no common sense, no clue! he doesn't know anything about life of everyday people. (or he calls them ordinary people!) guess ben is above ordinary people and he definitely looks down on hard working middle class people like nathan and josie.

ben: oh, poor politicians, they work so hard around the clock, pay those rich upper class people more money! what?! wtf!!

[billy123]

your odd

[JustSkipIt]

your odd

I think the OP is correct in just about every sense.
What IS odd is that Ben is still my favourite despite all of these things

[billy123]

I think the OP is correct in just about every sense.
What IS odd is that Ben is still my favourite despite all of these things
so you think ben is the worst housemate in history?

[JustSkipIt]

so you think ben is the worst housemate in history?

I said 'just about every sense'
You don't have to even like Ben to accept he has been one of the all-time greatest HMs

[Frank E]

It may have been the 4th of July but a general infantryman of the New World colonies is out of his jusrisdiction ordering a british citizen in physical activity, particularly when that infantryman is of low rank.

[billy123]

I said 'just about every sense'
You don't have to even like Ben to accept he has been one of the all-time greatest HMsso you must agree that "ben is a selfish and a pathetic excuse for a human being" then?

[Claymores]

so you must agree that "ben is a selfish and a pathetic excuse for a human being" then?

I will if nobody else does bob! I HATE that toffy prick

[Colbert-Bump]

Nathan couldn't even do the laughing task, where's a thread about that?

[billy123]

I will if nobody else does bob! I HATE that toffy prick

dont be silly :pat:

[Claymores]

c'mon excusers, load them up - try deflecting to another task - where did I try defending Nathan?

Rewatch sticking to wall

Rewatch tofster telling HMs he doesn't care of team and BB experience has nothing to add.

Rewatch him saying in DR "can you tell the others of the hot water without mentioning me?"

I ain't even started on ToT scenario yer

He's an awful individual

[Claymores]

It's not all Pimms & croquet

[fivecougz]

he was castrated at birth.

[tintedshadow]

c'mon excusers, load them up - try deflecting to another task - where did I try defending Nathan?

Rewatch sticking to wall

Rewatch tofster telling HMs he doesn't care of team and BB experience has nothing to add.

Rewatch him saying in DR "can you tell the others of the hot water without mentioning me?"

I ain't even started on ToT scenario yer

He's an awful individual

but thats the point,he's an individual,i always find it strange that a bunch of strangers who are fully grown adults need to be imposing their views on others (by which i mean the housemates not anyone on here).. as if ben needs to explain himself when he chose not to go through with the punishment.. why in a setting like this does it need to be about chastising another for being an individual? this show's about character's not team building skills like its the scouts..

i had a slight issue with ben to begin with,with the amount of backstabbing towards his so called mates (mario/dave/sunshine)... after a while i realised everyone has turned on each other so i dont see how bens much worst than the rest.. he's a pillock at times but in general he's decent,even chasing after mario for a time while mario was spewing venom over the past few days.. i dont think he's as bad as is being made out tbh

[Stacey.]

Yep. He's a really obvious game-player.

[Claymores]

If liking "an individual" means liking a lying self-centered creep who would happily **** on you then I'm glad I don't know the "individuals" you do tintedshadow

It was a kind edit compared to LF

I now worry who your 'friends' are pal

[Claymores]

Yep. He's a really obvious game-player.

No Stace - he doesn't even know the BB game as he thinks he's above it.

He's awaiting the Pimms & croquet coming out in one of the "reception rooms"

[Beso]

I've said it before and I'll say it again, BEN is the tyoe of housemate who's character traits should not be judged they should be enjoyed until he goes.

[Angus]

Yep. He's a really obvious game-player.

Shock, Horror - a gameplayer on a game show:shocked: Whatever next?!
Don't worry though, the viewers are pretty astute at kicking out the more obvious ones as has been proved the past few weeks:hugesmile:

[Claymores]

I've said it before and I'll say it again, BEN is the tyoe of housemate who's character traits should not be judged they should be enjoyed until he goes.



How about if I've stopped enjoying the crapola and are now really irritated by a lying-self-centred pompous creep?

[Beso]

How about if I've stopped enjoying the crapola and are now really irritated by a lying-self-centred pompous creep?

he'll do something new and entertaining shortly.

[Claymores]

he'll do something new and entertaining shortly.

**** -up something else ?

[tintedshadow]

If liking "an individual" means liking a lying self-centered creep who would happily **** on you then I'm glad I don't know the "individuals" you do tintedshadow

It was a kind edit compared to LF

I now worry who your 'friends' are pal

pal?dont worry yourself about who my friends are... humble yourself..

also i wasnt saying he was right for ignoring the punishment which could've affected the house,my point was more that in the house everyone seems happy to impose their own opinions on the others actions as if everyone has to live by their standards...

in future,keep your post's less personal as mine we're not meant to rile you up any which way,k pal?

[Angus]

It's good to see that Ben is quite literally irritating the crap out of his haters:hugesmile: -BB seem reluctant to boot him out in spite of everything and it's fun to watch the battle of the wills.

Until BB can come up with some half decent HMs to replace the deadwood dullards in the house, at least we still have Ben providing us with entertainment.

[Beso]

**** -up something else ?

Do I look like mystic meg?

[tintedshadow]

It's good to see that Ben is quite literally irritating the crap out of his haters:hugesmile: -BB seem reluctant to boot him out in spite of everything and it's fun to watch the battle of the wills.

Until BB can come up with some half decent HMs to replace the deadwood dullards in the house, at least we still have Ben providing us with entertainment.

im not sure thats true though,i think some people on here have legit reasons to dislike ben while others are just doing it to troll the forums,either way they all have a right to their say,personally i dont think bb want him out. they seem to be giving him far too much air time if that was the case,and his little dialogue with the t.o.t and also with the marine yday,i think he's being shown in a fairly good way so far..

[Claymores]

pal?dont worry yourself about who my friends are... humble yourself..

also i wasnt saying he was right for ignoring the punishment which could've affected the house,my point was more that in the house everyone seems happy to impose their own opinions on the others actions as if everyone has to live by their standards...

in future,keep your post's less personal as mine we're not meant to rile you up any which way,k pal?

If you felt my post was personal you should have hit the report button, James is active at the mo and would have hit me. The point I made was that if you like "individuals" who are lying, self-centred horrible indiciduals then welcome back to the 1980s. I'm glad you enjoy Ben.

[Claymores]

im not sure thats true though,i think some people on here have legit reasons to dislike ben while others are just doing it to troll the forums.

Again, if you see trolls, the report button is on the left hand side kiddo.

[yousoboo!]

Ben thinks he can dip in and out of the BB game when it suits.

[tintedshadow]

If you felt my post was personal you should have hit the report button, James is active at the mo and would have hit me. The point I made was that if you like "individuals" who are lying, self-centred horrible indiciduals then welcome back to the 1980s. I'm glad you enjoy Ben.



enough members have been far more insulting than you,and i havent reported them,nor would i report you,since i have infractions to my name id rather not be drawn in to any online disagreements... you see my post?not once did i look to get personal,i expect the same courtesy in return... keep it simple,dont try it with me and their wont be any issues...

[Claymores]

they seem to be giving him far too much air time if that was the case,and his little dialogue with the t.o.t and also with the marine yday,i think he's being shown in a fairly good way so far..

They didn't even show Ben being demonstrated to be a liar about what his task actually was on the plasma.

On LF, it's clear they know that Ben's secret mission wasn't to do horrible things like steal Shabby's hat collection, but to organise arm wrestling and talk chav.

The plasma of the lies indignated the rest of the HMs, no idea how c4 are gonna hide that part of the storyline to keep Ben looking good.

[tintedshadow]

Again, if you see trolls, the report button is on the left hand side kiddo.

listen little lady while you feel it neccesary to quote me,atleast quote me fully,as you would have your answer as to why i wouldnt report a troll,since you seem to have missed the fairly obvios point,ill make it clear for you...

im not sure thats true though,i think some people on here have legit reasons to dislike ben while others are just doing it to troll the forums.either way they all have a right to their say

k now buh bye :wavey:

[Marzy]

Ben is an excellent housemate!. At last a housmate with a difference, and reminds me a lot of Siaviash. One thing you cannot say about Ben and that he's a game player. If Shabby and Ben leave what do we have left? Ben will be there till the end! :dance:

[Claymores]

Ben thinks he can dip in and out of the BB game when it suits.

Short and simple and 100%

[Claymores]

listen little lady while you feel it neccesary to quote me,atleast quote me fully,as you would have your answer as to why i wouldnt report a troll,since you seem to have missed the fairly obvios point,ill make it clear for you...



k now buh bye :wavey:

OK but call me a lady again and I'll come round and gee ye a Glasgow Kiss matey

[tintedshadow]

They didn't even show Ben being demonstrated to be a liar about what his task actually was on the plasma.

On LF, it's clear they know that Ben's secret mission wasn't to do horrible things like steal Shabby's hat collection, but to organise arm wrestling and talk chav.

The plasma of the lies indignated the rest of the HMs, no idea how c4 are gonna hide that part of the storyline to keep Ben looking good.

fair point,perhaps he mislead the rest of the housemates,ill concede that if you can concede that perhaps on live feed (whether the sound cut out/or they hadnt shown the full conversation) that perhaps you havent seen the whole thing.. im stipulating though so tbf if he did mislead them,then your right,either way he's not the only housemate in there this year to have lied is he?

[tintedshadow]

OK but call me a lady again and I'll come round and gee ye a Glasgow Kiss matey

listen buckwee,once you indulge in calling me pal/kiddo i dont think your in any position to complain about anything.. however if its a problem,either report me,or pm me and we'll sort something out... other wise quit trying to antagonise when im quite clearly not here for that...

[Claymores]

listen buckwee,once you indulge in calling me pal/kiddo i dont think your in any position to complain about anything.. however if its a problem,either report me,or pm me and we'll sort something out... other wise quit trying to antagonise when im quite clearly not here for that...

It's fair to say your posts have peed me off this morning as I think they are defending the inexcusable. Calling a bloke a "little lady" just topped it off. I have no wish to ever converse with you in PM as I think your values and ideas don't match mine. I hope you continue to enjoy your hero Ben

[Beso]

put down the handbags lady's.

[Claymores]

put down the handbags lady's.

You're one to talk beso! Bannedo the other day I noticed :hugesmile:

[Beso]

You're one to talk beso! Bannedo the other day I noticed :hugesmile:

yep, not for arguing with a fellow forum member though.

[Claymores]

yep, not for arguing with a fellow forum member though.

Just rude posts? A collection of infractions? :hugesmile:

[Beso]

Just rude posts? A collection of infractions? :hugesmile:

Nope, just the mods not knowing that a paedophile is not someone who likes to look up 19yr old female friends skirts.

[Claymores]

Ben is an excellent housemate!. At last a housmate with a difference, and reminds me a lot of Siaviash. One thing you cannot say about Ben and that he's a game player. If Shabby and Ben leave what do we have left? Ben will be there till the end! :dance:

If Shabby and Ben leave, we have a different storyline with others coming to the fore - this ALWAYS happens.

Don't know if you watch LF? Ben had an awfi lucky edit last night - producers obviously keeping him as the major storyline

[tintedshadow]

It's fair to say your posts have peed me off this morning as I think they are defending the inexcusable. Calling a bloke a "little lady" just topped it off. I have no wish to ever converse with you in PM as I think your values and ideas don't match mine. I hope you continue to enjoy your hero Ben

smh scour through this thread to realise my post wasnt in any way personally attacking you,you then "worry about the friends i have".. then have an issue with my post's? first of all i dont really care if you feel im defending the inexcusable,hows about in future you dont get personal and you wont get your little feelings hurt?smh little lady needs to not go P.M.Sing all over a public forum...

im not sure i care if your pee'd with my post's,i never called you out to begin with,pal... now quit being so butthurt and dont call me out again...

[tintedshadow]

put down the handbags lady's.

lol agreed,i will exit this thread as i didnt mean to go off topic,apologies to all...

[Claymores]

you wont get your little feelings hurt?smh little lady needs to not go P.M.Sing all over a public forum...

im not sure i care if your pee'd with my post's,i never called you out to begin with,pal... now quit being so butthurt and dont call me out again...

Can you put that through Babelfish and translate into english please? Mine's seems down ATM

[big_bother]

What IS odd is that Ben is still my favourite despite all of these things

Lol, i have to agree with this.

[Claymores]

lol agreed,i will exit this thread as i didnt mean to go off topic,apologies to all...

Super

[Angus]

If Shabby and Ben leave, we have a different storyline with others coming to the fore - this ALWAYS happens.

Don't know if you watch LF? Ben had an awfi lucky edit last night - producers obviously keeping him as the major storyline

You're absolutely right - no HM is bigger than the show, even Ben whom I love. But it's the nature of the "different storyline" that comes to the fore that's debatable. Two weeks of wall to wall Scabby and Sidekick almost had me reaching for the permanent off switch.

That is the allure of BB of course, the way it polarises opinion and sorts the wheat from the chaff. One man's meat is another man's poison - always has been, always will. So whilst Ben is still in the house, I am delighted. When he leaves I'll decide then whether there's any point in continuing to watch or just toodle off and enjoy the rest of my summer BB free!

[Claymores]

You're absolutely right - no HM is bigger than the show, even Ben whom I love. But it's the nature of the "different storyline" that comes to the fore that's debatable. Two weeks of wall to wall Scabby and Sidekick almost had me reaching for the permanent off switch.

That is the allure of BB of course, the way it polarises opinion and sorts the wheat from the chaff. One man's meat is another man's poison - always has been, always will. So whilst Ben is still in the house, I am delighted. When he leaves I'll decide then whether there's any point in continuing to watch or just toodle off and enjoy the rest of my summer BB free!

Great post. I believe the producers are holding Ben as the major storyline for this week as (allegedly) there are 3 new HMs in on Friday so they'll review what gonna show on HL arter that.

On last night's HL they even overplayed the JJ/Josie romance when there were better things to show. Producers believe somehow that viewers like showmances - crazy.

[WOMBAI]

Great post. I believe the producers are holding Ben as the major storyline for this week as (allegedly) there are 3 new HMs in on Friday so they'll review what gonna show on HL arter that.

On last night's HL they even overplayed the JJ/Josie romance when there were better things to show. Producers believe somehow that viewers like showmances - crazy.

Unfortunately - the teens do! Romance mad the lot of em! :sleep:

[headaball]

Unfortunately - the teens do! Romance mad the lot of em! :sleep:

Check this thread out. http://www.digitalspy.co.uk/forums/showthread.php?t=1287792&page=208

I'm not sure whether to laugh at them or feel sorry for them.

[WOMBAI]

Check this thread out. http://www.digitalspy.co.uk/forums/showthread.php?t=1287792&page=208

I'm not sure whether to laugh at them or feel sorry for them.

Correction - teens and forever teens! :joker:

[barn76]

Tasks are part of BB do them or bloody get out Davinas right, Ben should grow a set he is a poor excuse for a man with no backbone who thinks he can put people down with his posh put on accent... He totally over acts his poshness to make him seem more regal and for someone who claims to be intelligent he has no common sence or sence of decency... He was funny for a couple of episodes but the show would be all the better if they chucked him out and put someone new in.... Get Ben out!!!!

[Kazanne]

God Ben! I agree with Davina....DO THE TASKS! It's not as if the military guy was asking him to do something physically impossible. Don't like Dave, but credit where it is due, he at least is doing the task, and having a laugh about it. Personally I don't think the military guy should have given Ben a choice. Either do it or you are out.

i never liked ben! he has no backbone!
he came back and lied about how he chose who will take on his punishment!
ben is a selfish and a pathetic excuse for a human being.

mario realized that ben never was his friend and ben will throw him under bus at anytime, just like he did it to dave. ben doesn't care about anybody! that's why mario doesn't like ben anymore!

dave to ben: if you do that to your best friend, what do you do to your enemies?

ben always tries to justify himself and his actions with a bunch of bs.

ben thinks he does nothing wrong and never really sorry for his selfishness and wrongdoings.

ben never completes tasks and always complains.
ben is the worst housemate ever in bb history!

ben has no common sense, no clue! he doesn't know anything about life of everyday people. (or he calls them ordinary people!) guess ben is above ordinary people and he definitely looks down on hard working middle class people like nathan and josie.

ben: oh, poor politicians, they work so hard around the clock, pay those rich upper class people more money! what?! wtf!!

NO,NO,NO,someone like Hitler is a poor excuse for a human being,think about it.

[Claymores]

NO,NO,NO,someone like Hitler is a poor excuse for a human being,think about it.

How about Jeffrey Archer kazanne? :joker:

[mr white]

ben is the producers golden boy! they so want him to win! last nights hl show editing as if he was being bullied:joker: the reason why they turned against him was that they were shown the video of the tot task & they now know he blantantly lied to them! & why didnt the producers show this on hl show???? cause they want the ben to win

[Kazanne]

How about Jeffrey Archer kazanne? :joker:

I really don't know anything about Archer so why ask me such a daft question and laugh at yourself?I don't see the point of the question.

[Claymores]

ben is the producers golden boy! they so want him to win! last nights hl show editing as if he was being bullied:joker: the reason why they turned against him was that they were shown the video of the tot task & they now know he blantantly lied to them! & why didnt the producers show this on hl show???? cause they want the ben to win

Last night's HL was attrocious - they didn't even show the HM getting the plasma of Ben's lies about the ToT task (remember he claimed he refused the task as it involved horrible things).

The HMs now make jokes about arm-wrestling cos they saw the truth

It was a BIG save HL show.

[JustSkipIt]

so you must agree that "ben is a selfish and a pathetic excuse for a human being" then?

Yes, to be honest, I do.

My whole point was that, for me, I like Ben despite all these faults - and he's excellent entertainment.

[Claymores]

I really don't know anything about Archer so why ask me such a daft question and laugh at yourself?I don't see the point of the question.

Since you love Ben so much, thought you'd know his favourite lag and life story

[Kazanne]

Since you love Ben so much, thought you'd know his favourite lag and life story

Why,is it my business to know? If Ben likes Archer as you say he does,so what?and why would that mean I know anything about Archer:conf: people like people that other people don't.it is called having different interests and different opinions,I am surprised you didn't know that,so i still think your question is pointless.:sleep:

[vesavius]

God Ben! I agree with Davina....DO THE TASKS! It's not as if the military guy was asking him to do something physically impossible. Don't like Dave, but credit where it is due, he at least is doing the task, and having a laugh about it. Personally I don't think the military guy should have given Ben a choice. Either do it or you are out.

i never liked ben! he has no backbone!
he came back and lied about how he chose who will take on his punishment!
ben is a selfish and a pathetic excuse for a human being.

mario realized that ben never was his friend and ben will throw him under bus at anytime, just like he did it to dave. ben doesn't care about anybody! that's why mario doesn't like ben anymore!

dave to ben: if you do that to your best friend, what do you do to your enemies?

ben always tries to justify himself and his actions with a bunch of bs.

ben thinks he does nothing wrong and never really sorry for his selfishness and wrongdoings.

ben never completes tasks and always complains.
ben is the worst housemate ever in bb history!

ben has no common sense, no clue! he doesn't know anything about life of everyday people. (or he calls them ordinary people!) guess ben is above ordinary people and he definitely looks down on hard working middle class people like nathan and josie.

ben: oh, poor politicians, they work so hard around the clock, pay those rich upper class people more money! what?! wtf!!

Indeed Cam, QFT.

[camertone]

c4 daily roll agrees ben is pathetic!

[big_bother]

@Topic

Of course he is, thats why he's in Big Brother. Rar Rar Rar!

[Bonbons81]

If he was a game player he would have done the punishment but he's not he's just honest, do you honestly think if he was game playing he would have ****ed that up?! He would have done what all the others would have done, "took one for the team" pretending they did it for the sake of the house like dave was doing... Bullshine mate! Everyones in it for themselves.. Do we keep forgetting this is a game? A competition?!

I don't respect bens decision to not finish what be started but I do respect the fact that he is himself and does what he wants no matter what the others think! He will obv be up this week and he knows this so to think he has a game plan is ridiculous!!

[Kazanne]

Well said Bonbon,but some people do not like honesty,so get your skid lid on,lol

[Mystic Mock]

God Ben! I agree with Davina....DO THE TASKS! It's not as if the military guy was asking him to do something physically impossible. Don't like Dave, but credit where it is due, he at least is doing the task, and having a laugh about it. Personally I don't think the military guy should have given Ben a choice. Either do it or you are out.

i never liked ben! he has no backbone!
he came back and lied about how he chose who will take on his punishment!
ben is a selfish and a pathetic excuse for a human being.

mario realized that ben never was his friend and ben will throw him under bus at anytime, just like he did it to dave. ben doesn't care about anybody! that's why mario doesn't like ben anymore!

dave to ben: if you do that to your best friend, what do you do to your enemies?

ben always tries to justify himself and his actions with a bunch of bs.

ben thinks he does nothing wrong and never really sorry for his selfishness and wrongdoings.

ben never completes tasks and always complains.
ben is the worst housemate ever in bb history!

ben has no common sense, no clue! he doesn't know anything about life of everyday people. (or he calls them ordinary people!) guess ben is above ordinary people and he definitely looks down on hard working middle class people like nathan and josie.

ben: oh, poor politicians, they work so hard around the clock, pay those rich upper class people more money! what?! wtf!!

noway is ben in the same league as channelle heyes and ziggy for the worst housemate in bb history.

and ben was wise to get away from mario because his a bunny boiler little freak.

[Mystic Mock]

Tasks are part of BB do them or bloody get out Davinas right, Ben should grow a set he is a poor excuse for a man with no backbone who thinks he can put people down with his posh put on accent... He totally over acts his poshness to make him seem more regal and for someone who claims to be intelligent he has no common sence or sence of decency... He was funny for a couple of episodes but the show would be all the better if they chucked him out and put someone new in.... Get Ben out!!!!

you do realise its not just about tasks and that its also an entertainment show.

[camertone]

ben said he's not going to share his prize money if he won!

[Kazanne]

ben said he's not going to share his prize money if he won!

No he didn't.:nono::nono:

[vesavius]

No he didn't.:nono::nono:

Actually, Kaz, he did.

Whether you agree with Steve getting a leg out of the prize fund or not (thats beside the point) Ben clearly said no he wouldnt do it.

[fruit_cake]

theres no reason why Ben should share his prize money.

[Eye_Spy]

God Ben! I agree with Davina....DO THE TASKS! It's not as if the military guy was asking him to do something physically impossible. Don't like Dave, but credit where it is due, he at least is doing the task, and having a laugh about it. Personally I don't think the military guy should have given Ben a choice. Either do it or you are out.

i never liked ben! he has no backbone!
he came back and lied about how he chose who will take on his punishment!
ben is a selfish and a pathetic excuse for a human being.

mario realized that ben never was his friend and ben will throw him under bus at anytime, just like he did it to dave. ben doesn't care about anybody! that's why mario doesn't like ben anymore!

dave to ben: if you do that to your best friend, what do you do to your enemies?

ben always tries to justify himself and his actions with a bunch of bs.

ben thinks he does nothing wrong and never really sorry for his selfishness and wrongdoings.

ben never completes tasks and always complains.
ben is the worst housemate ever in bb history!

ben has no common sense, no clue! he doesn't know anything about life of everyday people. (or he calls them ordinary people!) guess ben is above ordinary people and he definitely looks down on hard working middle class people like nathan and josie.

ben: oh, poor politicians, they work so hard around the clock, pay those rich upper class people more money! what?! wtf!!

the clue was in his promotional videao that was shown before he went into the house, he openly admitted/bragged about how he was a great manipulator of people, hes your typical public schoolboy, complete twat, whos only hobbie is ''widening the cirlce of his friends''

[Angus]

If he was a game player he would have done the punishment but he's not he's just honest, do you honestly think if he was game playing he would have ****ed that up?! He would have done what all the others would have done, "took one for the team" pretending they did it for the sake of the house like dave was doing... Bullshine mate! Everyones in it for themselves.. Do we keep forgetting this is a game? A competition?!

I don't respect bens decision to not finish what be started but I do respect the fact that he is himself and does what he wants no matter what the others think! He will obv be up this week and he knows this so to think he has a game plan is ridiculous!!

Instead of which JJ and Sidekick are up! The other HMs seem to be liking Ben more and more, Scabby wants him to win, and Sidekick wants him as her best man! Even if that envious little twerp JJ wins the task and puts Ben up, Sidekick will be booted out on Friday with a huge percentage!

[Kazanne]

Actually, Kaz, he did.

Whether you agree with Steve getting a leg out of the prize fund or not (thats beside the point) Ben clearly said no he wouldnt do it.

He said that he would go along with it,but it should have been a group decision,as it had put people in a difficult postition as IF they disagreed they would look like right toe rags,and that he had family he would like to sort out to,so imo he did NOT refuse and good on him,most people would have thought the same but wouldn't have said it.