Housemates seriously suggesting Ben is an actor plant.

[vesavius]

I don't think he is personally, I think he is just a selfish nasty feckless little scroat, but it's interesting that they think his behaviour is so unrealistic and seemingly designed to take the piss that it could be seriously debated.

[flamingGalah!]

I personally find it hard to believe that JJ is for real more than Ben... His irrational hate of pretty girls & his need to have 13 arguments a day...

[vesavius]

Ben is actually behaving pretty strangely right now... almost out of character...


What if, and just think about this for a second with an open mind... what if the mole task was a triple bluff?

A mole wearing a sign saying 'I am a mole' who isnt a mole, while the real mole is slipped in...


Fun to speculate :D

[vesavius]

His switch and deflection using chocolate etc is actually suspect... the bumbling toff isnt so bumbling all of a sudden...

[Patrick]

It would make sense, he didn't audition he was PUT IN By the exc producer that called him.

[tintedshadow]

His switch and deflection using chocolate etc is actually suspect... the bumbling toff isnt so bumbling all of a sudden...

seems to be handling the situation pretty well,should jj have been scrutinised to such an extent i think we'd all expect him to kick off by now,ben's dealing with things fairly well right about now..

[flamingGalah!]

It would make sense, he didn't audition he was PUT IN By the exc producer that called him.

So were half of them, as is the case every year...

[vesavius]

seems to be handling the situation pretty well,should jj have been scrutinised to such an extent i think we'd all expect him to kick off by now,ben's dealing with things fairly well right about now..

We are seeing a new Ben here right now tbh... did you catch the emphasis when he was talking to Corin "and I do mean that" when he was talking about her beauty?

[vesavius]

So were half of them, as is the case every year...

he is the only one that was walked right in this year though an agent though yes?

[jj43]

Ben is a flaming queen with no good acting skills

[flamingGalah!]

he is the only one that was walked right in this year though an agent though yes?

I thought Steve, Quaver & Scabby were picked too? I think Mario got in via dubious means as well...

[vesavius]

I thought Steve, Quaver & Scabby were picked too? I think Mario got in via dubious means as well...

No, mario definitly auditioned (over 3 days).

caoimhe was given a card on the street to bypass the queue and get an audtion (they do that every year).


Not sure about steve or Shabs.

[Beso]

I's love to know what david whispered in jj's ear as the chocolate was getting handed around.

I think he was saying that ben loves all the attention, which he clearly does, thankfully for us, cause this is funny as.

[Lex]

It's pure television gold!!

All the vipers having a go at the master!....And he's chewing them up and spitting them out!:hugesmile:

Dave's 'old pal fascade is cracking though' !....And 'Iffy's' ear poisoning is on full throttle!....

[vesavius]

It's pure television gold!!

All the vipers having a go at the master!....And he's chewing them up and spitting them out!:hugesmile:

Dave's 'old pal fascade is cracking though' !....And 'Iffy's' ear poisoning is on full throttle!....

tbh, it's all very light hearted and funny. I agree on the TV gold :)

no vipers, no master, just a humourous good conversation that raises some very interesting questions ;)

[vesavius]

I's love to know what david whispered in jj's ear as the chocolate was getting handed around.

I think he was saying that ben loves all the attention, which he clearly does, thankfully for us, cause this is funny as.

I got the vibe that he was confirming he seriously shared their playful suspicion... thats just me though.

[Lex]

I's love to know what david whispered in jj's ear as the chocolate was getting handed around.

I think he was saying that ben loves all the attention, which he clearly does, thankfully for us, cause this is funny as.

He was having yet another dig at his so called friend!!....Saying that Ben is an actor, playing up to the cameras!!

Good friend.... that!!

[Kazanne]

I's love to know what david whispered in jj's ear as the chocolate was getting handed around.

I think he was saying that ben loves all the attention, which he clearly does, thankfully for us, cause this is funny as.

How is Ben wanting attention it's JJ and co circling him,Ben is lay there very calm. Dave,Steve,,Nathan and JJ clearly goading him

[Beso]

How is Ben wanting attention it's JJ and co circling him,Ben is lay there very calm. Dave,Steve,,Nathan and JJ clearly goading him

I never said he wanted, I said he loved it, which he does when they are all making fun of him like that, theres a word for it but I won't even attempt to guess what it is.

[Lex]

How is Ben wanting attention it's JJ and co circling him,Ben is lay there very calm. Dave,Steve,,Nathan and JJ clearly goading him

Yep! .....And they dont even know that they're outclassed by Mr. Cool!:hugesmile:

[vesavius]

He was having yet another dig at his so called friend!!....Saying that Ben is an actor, playing up to the cameras!!

Good friend.... that!!

obviously dave has real suspicions about Ben... its brilliant TV

[vesavius]

I never said he wanted, I said he loved it, which he does when they are all making fun of him like that, theres a word for it but I won't even attempt to guess what it is.

yeah, he is loving it and he is not at all phased... quite the professional... ;)

[Beso]

yeah, he is loving it and he is not at all phased... quite the professional... ;)

I doubt he is an actor. Well he probably is an actor of sorts on the outside, but he's not a plant.:nono:

[Lex]

obviously dave has real suspicions about Ben... its brilliant TV

He's in a class of his own!!....I wish that Halfwit was in there with him!

[boomoo]

seems to be handling the situation pretty well,should jj have been scrutinised to such an extent i think we'd all expect him to kick off by now,ben's dealing with things fairly well right about now..



Well they all heard how well he was received on Friday and they want a piece of the action.

Even Nathan is acting out of character. Who would have thought he would have swung behind Ben.

[Lex]

Well they all heard how well he was received on Friday and they want a piece of the action.

Even Nathan is acting out of character. Who would have thought he would have swung behind Ben.

Only to try and hang on his coat-tails!:dance:

[boomoo]

How is Ben wanting attention it's JJ and co circling him,Ben is lay there very calm. Dave,Steve,,Nathan and JJ clearly goading him

But Nathan has just said that Ben and dave have brought him out of himself and he is going to start enjoying himself.

At last we might get a bit of fun from them.

[tintedshadow]

We are seeing a new Ben here right now tbh... did you catch the emphasis when he was talking to Corin "and I do mean that" when he was talking about her beauty?

i think thats just how he articulates,maybe its just me but he seems like the same ben as before only he seems more thick skinned than he's been over the past few weeks... taking it all on the chin which is fair play tbf.. oh well unless jj wins the task tomorrow,he's out on friday,which should give ben a far easier time in the house..

[vesavius]

I doubt he is an actor. Well he probably is an actor of sorts on the outside, but he's not a plant.:nono:

keep an open mind...

would it be impossible for him to be the real mole (with the mario thing as a triple bluff) who's been instructed?

when has a HM ever been allowed out front? when has a HM tried so hard to indirectly/ directly sabotage tasks (if you actually think back)?

when is the 'special reveal' meant to be happening? week 6?

all the seasons people have talked about a mole and there hasnt been one... the last BB?

Don't get me wrong, I'm 80% he isnt, but the possibility is fun to chat about, and I was 100% he wasnt at the start of the night... :D

[tintedshadow]

How is Ben wanting attention it's JJ and co circling him,Ben is lay there very calm. Dave,Steve,,Nathan and JJ clearly goading him

cosign,also dont quite get why jj would insist on asking a million and one questions and taking pop shots at ben yet not satisfied with the answers he recieves...

[Lex]

i think thats just how he articulates,maybe its just me but he seems like the same ben as before only he seems more thick skinned than he's been over the past few weeks... taking it all on the chin which is fair play tbf.. oh well unless jj wins the task tomorrow,he's out on friday,which should give ben a far easier time in the house..

I would'nt worry about that!....JJs never been a match for Ben!!

It's the snakes who are pretending to be his chums that he's got to watch closely!!

[flamingGalah!]

No, mario definitly auditioned (over 3 days).

caoimhe was given a card on the street to bypass the queue and get an audtion (they do that every year).


Not sure about steve or Shabs.

Yeah Quaver being "hand picked" off the street is still getting a "golden ticket" really...

Mario is a funny one though as he has "links" & he is a BB fanatic who bought (or had his sugar Daddy MP) buy him the chair from BB6... It's all a bit fishy to me...

Steve was definitely picked by BB, he didn't audition...

Scabby I'm sure I read got in through her agent...

[Beso]

when is the 'special reveal' meant to be happening? week 6?






oh, whats this, I have not heard this mentioned before.

[tintedshadow]

I would'nt worry about that!....JJs never been a match for Ben!!

It's the snakes who are pretending to be his chums that he's got to watch closely!!

completely agree,why exactly is dave all snuggled up to ben minutes after warning jj of ben's "attention seeking"... snakes indeed,and wtf is it with jj caringabout what clubs bens at now..

[vesavius]

completely agree,why exactly is dave all snuggled up to ben minutes after warning jj of ben's "attention seeking"... snakes indeed,and wtf is it with jj caringabout what clubs bens at now..

take a step back from whether you like one HM or another, thats just white noise right now, and look clearly at whats being said :)

they are all seriously probing Ben to feel him out about being a actor plant, there is no malice here.


They are just exploring his stories...

[Beso]

this is the best nights live feed so far imo...I know this because I have style.

[vesavius]

oh, whats this, I have not heard this mentioned before.

Just something I saw talked about near the start... I make no guarantee to it or if it real lol.


I'm just throwing stuff out there as maybes and what ifs :)

[Beso]

Oh now we have the poopers on the bench.booooooooooooooo the poopers....

[vesavius]

Yeah Quaver being "hand picked" off the street is still getting a "golden ticket" really...

Mario is a funny one though as he has "links" & he is a BB fanatic who bought (or had his sugar Daddy MP) buy him the chair from BB6... It's all a bit fishy to me...

Steve was definitely picked by BB, he didn't audition...

Scabby I'm sure I read got in through her agent...

but none of that that really wouldnt affect whether they had pulled a triple bluff mole thing as a bit of fun with the viewers in the last series...

[vesavius]

Oh now we have the poopers on the bench.booooooooooooooo the poopers....

and the camera finally gets to escape the room :(

[stonedape]

Oh no, he's unique! He cant be real!

[oddballmisfitsFTW]

i watched LF for about an hour or so earlier

there was a 5-10 minute period where Ben had me laughin so much :joker:

[Angus]

HAHA! The paranoia on this forum is hilarious - just because Ben outclasses (in EVERY sense of the word) all the other HMs put together. Imagine JJ or Nathan being on the receiving end of all the digs, they would have exploded by now, but Ben doesn't bother with the nonentities they have shown themselves to be. The more he shrugs off their insults, the angrier they are getting - now THAT is hilarious to watch.

[starry]

He's been involved in enough of the twists to think that.

[vesavius]

HAHA! The paranoia on this forum is hilarious - just because Ben outclasses (in EVERY sense of the word) all the other HMs put together. Imagine JJ or Nathan being on the receiving end of all the digs, they would have exploded by now, but Ben doesn't bother with the nonentities they have shown themselves to be. The more he shrugs off their insults, the angrier they are getting - now THAT is hilarious to watch.

This is just a bit of fun speculation and 'what if' Angus, not 'paranoia' or anything else. This isnt a thread 'against' Ben, it's a friendly thread playing with the idea that BB could have indeed 'broken it's own rules' (as it said it would) and put in a paid actor for the very last season in order to shake things up (as it has always been accused of doing).

I am mainly asking 'is it possible?'

Take it it the light hearted way that it is being talked about maybe? :)

[vesavius]

He's been involved in enough of the twists to think that.

All those twists, all those tasks, all the whitewash edits in his favour, yet we havent seen much of his DR entries at all...

Can anyone actually remember seeing one Ben DR entry that wasnt a nom or directly being given a task in fact?

[Angus]

All those twists, all those tasks, all the whitewash edits in his favour, yet we havent seen much of his DR entries at all...

Can anyone actually remember seeing one Ben DR entry that wasnt a nom in fact?

I think you need to lie down and chill for a bit!

[Angus]

This is just a bit of fun speculation and 'what if' Angus, not 'paranoia' or anything else. This isnt a thread 'against' Ben, it's a friendly thread playing with the idea that BB could have indeed 'broken it's own rules' (as it said it would) and put in a paid actor for the very last season in order to shake things up (as it has always been accused of doing).

I am mainly asking 'is it possible?'

Take it it the light hearted way that it is being talked about maybe? :)

Isn't this the argument that the likes of JJ, Nathan, Keeva etc use every time they have a dig? - "I'm just messing" - "just joking" etc, just to disguise the real purpose of why they're doing it.

Ben has been up for eviction before, and I imagine a fair few of his haters voted for him to be evicted - so are you suggesting that BB took their money fraudulently?

[vesavius]

I think you need to lie down and chill for a bit!

lol I am having fun, why would I want to 'chill'?

is there anything you actually want to throw in here, either for or against, a bit of fun discussion about the possibility? Or are you gonna keep just trying to attack people in your oh very serious way? :P

[vesavius]

Isn't this the argument that the likes of JJ, Nathan, Keeva etc use every time they have a dig? - "I'm just messing" - "just joking" etc, just to disguise the real purpose of why they're doing it.

Ben has been up for eviction before, and I imagine a fair few of his haters voted for him to be evicted - so are you suggesting that BB took their money fraudulently?

lol relax, your taking this waaaaay too seriously...

Not every discussion about Ben is an attack. Theres no need to always be so ultra defensive :)



back on topic though...

No, I am suggesting that Ben would have been indeed taken out if he was voted out by the viewers... his actor/ mole task could easily be to stay in for as long as possible while following BBs directions, with his reveal only coming on his eviction.

There would be nothing fraudulent about it at all, legally anyhow, as long as he was taken out when nommed and voted, which could easily be his fail condition.

[stonedape]

It's possible he's a mole, but to act with a different personality/attitude/accent 24/7 for months takes crazy endurance/acting skill I just don't see Ben being capable of. It would be a beautiful con, but it seems like a stretch.

[vesavius]

It's possible he's a mole, but to act with a different personality/attitude/accent 24/7 for months takes crazy endurance/acting skill I just don't see Ben being capable of. It would be a beautiful con, but it seems like a stretch.

The point is that the Ben you think you know maybe isnt Ben at all... who knows what he is capable of ;)


As for maintaining the act... well, going 'undercover' wouldnt be that hard. He isnt faking his accent, and the personality would only be an exaggeration, not a creation, so easy to keep up.

All he would really be doing is constantly playing dumb (which people do all the time) and following BBs directions. Easy really?

[stonedape]

The point is that the Ben you think you know maybe isnt Ben at all... who knows what he is capable of ;)


As for maintaining the act... well, going 'undercover' wouldnt be that hard. He isnt faking his accent, and the personality would only be an exaggeration, not a creation, so easy to keep up.

All he would really be doing is constantly playing dumb (which people do all the time) and following BBs directions. Easy really?

Not at all. Try doing it for an hour, you'll have a headache. I don't think he's capable.

[vesavius]

Not at all. Try doing it for an hour, you'll have a headache. I don't think he's capable.

I know people that exaggerate their real personalities all their lives ;)


Even with these aside though, there are many many cases of people living undercover, in far more invented personalities, then what Ben would have been doing for just a month.

[stonedape]

I know people that exaggerate their real personalities all their lives ;)


There are many many cases of people living undercover, in far more invented personalities, then what Ben would have been doing for just a month.


Living undercover and exaggerating in public are easy, everyone does it to an extent...this is constant social contact close to 24/7. It's exhausting, and Ben's type of personality would be difficult to fake that long, it's very specific. I'm not saying it's impossible, just highly improbable.

[Tamtam]

The idea is very intriguing... I was watching this in bed last night and while I am not convinced or anything, some of Ben's reactions and body ticks were strange, as was his obvious move to change the subject. This morning he started talking about it again, reaffirming that he isnt a actor, which maybe could be interpretated as trying too hard to insist he isnt.

I honestly think it would be possible for a housemate to go 'undercover' in there... it's not like he would be having to create a whole personality or anything... he could very much just have been put in there to just bring disharmony and friction to the group, while messing up their tasks.

I think it's exactly the sense of humour of the BB guys to put a real mole in and cover it with a fake mole who wore a sign saying I am a mole! and the last series would be the time they would most do it...

I wonder what his fans would say if he was!

[vesavius]

The idea is very intriguing... I was watching this in bed last night and while I am not convinced or anything, some of Ben's reactions and body ticks were strange, as was his obvious move to change the subject. This morning he started talking about it again, reaffirming that he isnt a actor, which maybe could be interpretated as trying too hard to insist he isnt.

I think it's exactly the sense of humour of the BB guys to put a real mole in and cover it with a fake mole who wore a sign saying I am a mole! and the last series would be the time they would most do it..


yep me too, the more I watch the less silly the idea becomes :joker:

[Julesuk]

whats even a funnier tale is the fake mole befriending the real mole.

[vesavius]

whats even a funnier tale is the fake mole befriending the real mole.

:joker::joker:

[Orvakki]

How long is it till week 6?

[vesavius]

How long is it till week 6?


I think we are week 5 now?


The rumoured great reveal... wonder if it's anything or just that, a rumour.

[Beso]

I think we are week 5 now?


The rumoured great reveal... wonder if it's anything or just that, a rumour.



Maybe it's davina getting her minge out!

[vesavius]

Maybe it's davina getting her minge out!

Only, maybe, if 'her minge' is a euphemism for 'Ben' ;)




More seriously though (though not totally seriously obviously...)...

Noticed there wasnt any coverage of the whole 'actor' conversation at ALL in the HL, even though Ben being funny (actually the funniest he has been all series if I am honest) is usually shoe horned into the show no matter what. The whole conversation, from all, was hilarious tbh.

There is a reason for everything they do and don't put in this show... if they don't, and it has obvious entertainment value as this did, it is normally hacked out in order to protect something.



Love the speculation personally... :D

[vesavius]

Once again the HMs are talking about the week 6 secret that is rumoured and how they think there is an actor in there with them.


Week 6...


The HMs are all called together and told to name the real mole in the house (after the original double bluff), with the mole receiving half the prize fund if they fail to pick him out. Whichever HM is named as the mole though, real or not, has to leave the house.

The actor mole is Ben, but they will name Mario?

Possible? :)

[Mr XcX]

Ben is FAKE!!!
Bitchy Weasel Toad IMO

[Angus]

What a bloody ridiculous conspiracy theory. No doubt all those viewers who paid good money to try and get Ben out in the second week would like some proof rather than spiteful conjecture, in order that they can claim their cash back from BB, as well as prosecuting them for obtaining money by deception.:rolleyes:

[vesavius]

What a bloody ridiculous conspiracy theory. No doubt all those viewers who paid good money to try and get Ben out in the second week would like some proof rather than spiteful conjecture, in order that they can claim their cash back from BB, as well as prosecuting them for obtaining money by deception.:rolleyes:

oh calm down, it's just fun speculation based on a conversation the HMs had.

No need to get bent out of shape :rolleyes:

[vesavius]

What a bloody ridiculous conspiracy theory. No doubt all those viewers who paid good money to try and get Ben out in the second week would like some proof rather than spiteful conjecture, in order that they can claim their cash back from BB, as well as prosecuting them for obtaining money by deception.:rolleyes:

oh, btw, if getting evicted had been one of the mole's fail conditions, meaning he indeed would have been removed from the house if the vote had gone against him, then there would be no right to cry foul or for a refund.

There would have been no financial deception.

It would have though explained all the camera time, kind edits, and solo tasks that Ben received for ages, and indeed right after when they started talking about it why he was allowed to melt into the background.