89%.....Do the maths!!!

[rusticgal]

Thats a lot of people loving JJ....:joker::joker:

['Conor]

no thats a lot of people hating nathan lol

[stonedape]

It's a lot of people loving JJ. Outside of hardcore fans I doubt viewers knew who Nathan was, let alone hated him.

[Shiloh]

It's a lot of people loving JJ. Outside of hardcore fans I doubt viewers knew who Nathan was, let alone hated him.

So true..

[Jords]

People will tire of him eventually.

[ange7]

poor Nathan!
Is that a BB record?

[billy123]

People will tire of him eventually.
i hope so im sick of his whining already he has the mentality of a 12 year old kid i bet australians are embarrassed to have him representing them he isnt the brightest.

[ange7]

lol he's not representing OZ. You'd need to be pretty thick to think all Australians are like JJ. I don't think Caoimhe is representative of the Irish. Stereotypes are for the lazy and the stupid.

[billy123]

lol he's not representing OZ. You'd need to be pretty thick to think all Australians are like JJ. I don't think Caoimhe is representative of the Irish. Stereotypes are for the lazy and the stupid.you would have to be an absolute imbecile to think that anybody previously said that all australians are like jj :nono:
and wtf has Caoimhe got to do with this thread?

[Stacey.]

Or a lot of people hating Nathan.

[Shiner]

Do the maths? Erm, it was 89% to evict. At best "the maths" tells us that Nathan was not liked and compared to him the voters are more ambivalent about JJ. If it were a "vote to save" and JJ got 89% then you'd have a good point.

[Jamietwo]

poor Nathan!
Is that a BB record?

no i remember someone getting 91%, someone like alex or charley or one of those types.

[arista]

no thats a lot of people hating nathan lol



Yes Nathan is Scum.

[Shiloh]

no i remember someone getting 91%, someone like alex or charley or one of those types.

Sezer also got more than 90% I think.

[Angus]

Thats a lot of people loving JJ....:joker::joker:

When you've got two arsewipes up for eviction it just means one is more hated than the other.:pat:

[stonedape]

Do the maths? Erm, it was 89% to evict. At best "the maths" tells us that Nathan was not liked and compared to him the voters are more ambivalent about JJ. If it were a "vote to save" and JJ got 89% then you'd have a good point.


In a head to head, a vote to evict is the same thing as a vote to save. That's what's nice about head to heads...it's harder to fly UTR with two bigger personalities getting the evict votes, like Caohwecmwe did in Week 3.

[Shiner]

In a head to head, a vote to evict is the same thing as a vote to save.....

It's so not.
That's like saying that Nat's 89% was just made from JJ fans calling because he was up against their favourite, which is preposterous. It's partly true, but his 89% was actually made up of "counter votes" and "hate votes" (which is why Endemol run it like that, to make more money).
In a vote to save, Nat's fans would have vote for him and JJ's fans for JJ.

[Alpertinator]

No Nathan and JJ were the only ones, so JJ lovers had only one thing they could do to save JJ. There's no vote to save so all they could do is vote Nathan. Look, say it was a 3 or 4 up for eviction, Nathan may have gotten the second least votes (if it was against Camomile and Dave I'm sure he would have).

The reason Nathan got so many votes is cos' he was the only other option.

[Shiner]

No Nathan and JJ were the only ones, so JJ lovers had only one thing they could do to save JJ. There's no vote to save so all they could do is vote Nathan. Look, say it was a 3 or 4 up for eviction, Nathan may have gotten the second least votes (if it was against Camomile and Dave I'm sure he would have).

The reason Nathan got so many votes is cos' he was the only other option.

Come on, are you suggesting that the only people that voted to evict Nathan were JJ fans?

[JayManUnleashed]

How is that true? Josie fans could have voted Nathan. Steve fans could have voted Nathan. Not just JJ fans.

[stonedape]

For sure it's not all JJ fans, and I'm sure some of that 89% were people that hated Nathan. I just think it flies in the face of common sense to think Nathan garnered such overwhelming hatred for cooking and doing nothing 3 weeks then getting in one argument with Shabby. And when you think about who he's up against, the fit guy girls won't give up until finals regardless of behavior, it seems plausible a good number of those were save JJ votes. We'll never really be able to say, but I'm going with common sense.

[Shiner]

I'ts likely that the "hate" votes would have been from his picking on Ben (you of all people should have got that) coupled with his monumental stupidity in general add that to what you said about him not doing all that much and you have a HM who is hard to relate to. You are right to agree that a portion of votes will have been from JJ fans but "common sense" dictates that his votes would have been universal accross the all fan basses. Your original argument was that a head to head vote to evict situation is the same as "vote to save" situation, which I think we've cleared up that it most definitely isn't.

[stonedape]

I'ts likely that the "hate" votes would have been from his picking on Ben (you of all people should have got that) coupled with his monumental stupidity in general add that to what you said about him not doing all that much and you have a HM who is hard to relate to. You are right to agree that a portion of votes will have been from JJ fans but "common sense" dictates that his votes would have been universal accross the all fan basses. Your original argument was that a head to head vote to evict situation is the same as "vote to save" situation, which I think we've cleared up that it most definitely isn't.

No, technically it is. You are literally voting for X to stay by voting for Y to go. But I can't read minds, neither can you, maybe it was 75% love for JJ, 25% hate for Nathan, one, both, or neither. So your guess is as good as mine, but if you think a non-entity getting 90% of votes because they're hated and they're ambivalent to JJ makes sense, I disagree. My argument from the beginning is that no one cares about Nathan, and lots of people care about JJ. I just brought up the fact that vote to save is the same as vote to evict in a head to head to try to get you thinking, but that clearly hasn't worked.

p.s. all arguments are forgiven for your avatar/sig.

[MrWong]

JJ fans + Shabby fans = Nayfun booted by a massive majority.

[Shiner]

No, technically it is. You are literally voting for X to stay by voting for Y to go. But I can't read minds, neither can you, maybe it was 75% love for JJ, 25% hate for Nathan, one, both, or neither. So your guess is as good as mine, but if you think a non-entity getting 90% of votes because they're hated and they're ambivalent to JJ makes sense, I disagree. My argument from the beginning is that no one cares about Nathan, and lots of people care about JJ. I just brought up the fact that vote to save is the same as vote to evict in a head to head to try to get you thinking, but that clearly hasn't worked.

p.s. all arguments are forgiven for your avatar/sig.

No "technically" it's the opposite.

Creepycat sends his love. :)

[headaball]

I think it does have more to do with JJ having a lot of fans than Nathan a lot of haters. Ben and his fans would take JJ and his teenybopper fans down though in a head to head.

[Zippy]

There have been many votes in the past that high. Its a mixture of JJs female following(he does have the hunk vote all to himself being the only decent looking guy this year) and the fact that Nathan has hardly been shown the past 4 weeks...therefore no great fanbase. And when he was shown past week it was in a very bad light. Whereas JJ always gets good edits. His endless bitching sessions are reduced to a couple of lines if even shown at all.

Plus we dont know how many voted. 89% of 100 people is only 89 people. See how he fairs against a big popular HM.

But overall, no surprise at all. Nathan would have gone against anybody.

[Angus]

There have been many votes in the past that high. Its a mixture of JJs female following(he does have the hunk vote all to himself being the only decent looking guy this year) and the fact that Nathan has hardly been shown the past 4 weeks...therefore no great fanbase. And when he was shown past week it was in a very bad light. Whereas JJ always gets good edits. His endless bitching sessions are reduced to a couple of lines if even shown at all.

Plus we dont know how many voted. 89% of 100 people is only 89 people. See how he fairs against a big popular HM.

But overall, no surprise at all. Nathan would have gone against anybody.

There is one person he wouldn't have gone against:wink: JJ was always on a winner.

[Zippy]

There is one person he wouldn't have gone against:wink: JJ was always on a winner.

Well Caoimhe maybe.

[Kaaarenn!]

poor Nathan!
Is that a BB record?

Nope, I think the most there has been was 94 or 96%.

[arista]

http://i.dailymail.co.uk/i/pix/2010/07/09/article-1293542-0A6340FC000005DC-232_468x654.jpg


what a Utter Piss Head Loser nathan

[Stacey.]

JJ fans + Shabby fans = Nayfun booted by a massive majority.

:thumbs:

[Alpertinator]

The reason Nathan got so many votes is cos' he was the only other option.

This is what I said. Nathan was the only other option. That is my primary point. With JJ being $hit loads popular, obviously Nathan was going to get a big ass majority of the votes, as he was the only other option? Am I the only one that noticed this... :joker:

If there were 4 up, Nathan probably would have done okay and probably wouldn't have been evicted. That, is my primary point.

[JAJ1942]

I think it was probably JJ was the lesser of two evils

[Claymores]

Jedward Fever told us all he phoned JJ 536 times - that must be most of the 11% :joker:

That's his pocket-money for 2010 blown so JJ will be safe next time too - hahahahahaha

[Alpertinator]

Haha I don't want to be mean but Jedfever is kind of an idiot (sorry buddy, in a nice way...). I mean spending that much time and money in this vote, should've just let it lie and waited 'til a time when JJ had more chance of going.

[headaball]

Jedward Fever told us all he phoned JJ 536 times


Seriously? :joker:

[MusicMan]

Wow - I'm so glad Nathan's gone!

By the way, the record goes to Nicole from BB9 as far as I know, she got like 96% or something against Sara and Lisa :)

[Fish]

He was up against a housemate who is always shown who had become pretty popular. It wasn't like Nathan was an awful and mean housemate, we just didn't see him much in the house. Think he seemed like a great guy who just didn't live up to his video at the start.

[Amhuinn]

If there were three or four people up, I think Nathan might still be in the house - depending who he was up against. At the very least, he would have been voted out with a far, far lower percentage.

Despite the chants at the start, he didn't get booed much when he came out and there were quite a few cheers. He wasn't hated, he just failed to make an impact.

[Shiner]

If there were three or four people up, I think Nathan might still be in the house - depending who he was up against. At the very least, he would have been voted out with a far, far lower percentage...[/snip]

You seem have a formed an understanding of how this part of the game works and also the concepts of percentages and probability.
Thanks for pointing this out for us.

:p

[chuff me dizzy]

Thats a lot of people loving JJ....:joker::joker:

Great isnt it ? :dance::dance::dance:

[Stacey.]

I'm so pleased I didn't vote lmao.