His doggy explanation on how he supports himself

[AtomicKitty]

When keeley ask Dave about how he supports himself/ how being a minister, left me a bit wondering a bit, his strange explanation on how he supports himself

he went on to say: "in different ways we have partners that support us, bring ministries from other parts of the world and I set up conferences and then I do my own conferences, then I go to churches and speak in churches"

Uhmm got the funny feeling he has some explaining to do to his congregation...
:shocked:

[vesavius]

He draws a wage from the cult he set up and leads.

[Colbert-Bump]

So what?

[AtomicKitty]

wonder then how these people that follow him feel about giving and his family a free ride

[Angus]

What on earth is it to do with Keeley or you or I how he makes his money? The nosy bitch is unemployed herself so she can't talk.

[Angus]

wonder then how these people that follow him feel about giving and his family a free ride

Why do you care - are you supporting him?:conf:

[Fetch The Bolt Cutters]

i think he sells crack

[AtomicKitty]

Why do you care - are you supporting him?:conf:

why do I care?!! because churches are tax exempt institutions where a heck of a lot of money flows in, which most followers give as donation to support the church infrastructure, activities, charity and community support and certainly Not support a grown a** man. he strong, he is young, and is not handicapped so why the heck isn't he working like everyone else?! while doing his ministry?... right because he is milking the members donations...

I Sure would also be drunk on the lords love if someone was paying my mortgage, feeding and clothing me and whatever expense...

[vesavius]

btw, its 'dodgy' , not 'doggy'.

Unless you are sugessting he is, in fact, a dog.

[AtomicKitty]

Doggy fits him quite well I think

[Frank E]

God will provide.

[newspresenter]

wonder then how these people that follow him feel about giving and his family a free ride

Its not a free ride, its entertainment.

[AtomicKitty]

Its not a free ride, its entertainment.

I don't think the members of his church would call his role of being a minister in the church as entertainment.
I'm just wondering if his followers are fully aware that their contributions to the church are also contributions to pay for his comfy keeping.
I highly doubt it.
heck this it the first time I hear of a minister getting a paid to speak in churches and for spreading the love of God and gospel?
sorry but that sounds a bit strange and like a scam.

[SoFarSoGood282]

He takes donations on his website.....

[AtomicKitty]

He lives with lives at home with his wife of 17 years along with his four kids, three dogs, six chickens and lots of rabbits.
thats a lot of dosh needed too keep all that.
if he takes donation on his website and his organization is listed as a nonprofit organization since it is a church then thats tax exempt.. now if he is dipping into that pot of donations to support himself and his noah's ark of a family...and unless they members of the church are fully disclose that some of the money goes to support him and his family then I believe that is not right.

well who knows I'm just speculating...
but I'm sure some people that follow him will find that a bit strange and perhaps unethical.

[calyman]

i think he sells crack
I think he talks cack

[WOMBAI]

why do I care?!! because churches are tax exempt institutions where a heck of a lot of money flows in, which most followers give as donation to support the church infrastructure, activities, charity and community support and certainly Not support a grown a** man. he strong, he is young, and is not handicapped so why the heck isn't he working like everyone else?! while doing his ministry?... right because he is milking the members donations...

I Sure would also be drunk on the lords love if someone was paying my mortgage, feeding and clothing me and whatever expense...

He is working! He ministers and organises events etc - and for that he receives a salary! What is wrong with that?

[WOMBAI]

I don't think the members of his church would call his role of being a minister in the church as entertainment.
I'm just wondering if his followers are fully aware that their contributions to the church are also contributions to pay for his comfy keeping.
I highly doubt it.
heck this it the first time I hear of a minister getting a paid to speak in churches and for spreading the love of God and gospel?
sorry but that sounds a bit strange and like a scam.

You are making blind allegations based on assumptions and without any foundation!

All ministers, vicars etc get a wage, why should he be any different, just because you don't like his style of ministering!

[fingers]

wonder then how these people that follow him feel about giving and his family a free ride

There are many threads on here about his freeloading lifestyle, organising Sloshfests and junket trips to America all costing more than any "NORMAL" minister would receive in wages and in any case he is NOT an ordained minister, he woke up one morning from one of his drug induced stupors and decided I'm gonna be a minister. thus was born a moneymaking cult founded on the belief (his belief) that he could cure cancer and grow new legs for amputees like Steve. This is one such thread (the links are very revealing and will be rubbished as usual by the usual suspects on here!!! lol

http://www.thisisbigbrother.com/forums/showthread.php?t=146474:conf:

[Peter Plunker]

G'morning fingers, still barking up that tree eh?
What do you do for a living?

[flamingGalah!]

Dave is a fraud & a disgrace. He should be investigated & have his "church" closed down!!

[Peter Plunker]

Aye up, here's the other one, roll call! Now we just need chuff and Vasaviuvuius for a full class.

[fingers]

Dave is a fraud & a disgrace. He should be investigated & have his "church" closed down!!

and Peter Plonker is his staunchest lieutenant, always with rhe ready quip! lol:wavey:

[Peter Plunker]

What do you do for a living fingers?

[Livia]

With all the free money sloshing around the country, people picking up luxury lifestyles paid for by the taxpayer, single-parents being paid by the government to sit on their lazy ar5es watching Jeremy Kyle instead of supporting their own kids, the very richest people in society being allowed to pay hardly any tax because they have accountants who know all the loopholes... I'm surprised you're mad at Dave. I think Keeley had a bloody nerve to ask him how he makes his money after speaking to him for ninety seconds. How ill-mannered.

[WOMBAI]

Dave is a fraud & a disgrace. He should be investigated & have his "church" closed down!!

If he had anything to hide - he would hardly go on such a public tv show and expose himself, not only to riducule from all the sceptics, but potential investigations if any 'concerns' arose! He is not a stupid man - I seriously doubt he would have put himself in that position if he had anything to worry about! Cults are usually very private and hide away from publicity! He may appear odd, he may be eccentric - doesn't make him a conman!

[fingers]

What do you do for a living fingers?

We're giving your cult all this free publicity and you hurl insults, Bhwoy!

http://endtimespropheticwords.wordpress.com/category/dave-vaughan/

[WOMBAI]

G'morning fingers, still barking up that tree eh?
What do you do for a living?

Ha, ha - he is like a dog with a bone!

[stoney]

:cat:When keeley ask Dave about how he supports himself/ how being a minister, left me a bit wondering a bit, his strange explanation on how he supports himself

he went on to say: "in different ways we have partners that support us, bring ministries from other parts of the world and I set up conferences and then I do my own conferences, then I go to churches and speak in churches"

Uhmm got the funny feeling he has some explaining to do to his congregation...
:shocked:

do you honestly think his small congregation are not fully aware of how their contributions go:conf:

or is this just another anti-religion stick to beat david with:sleep:

[Peter Plunker]

How do you earn your money fingers?

The lack of an answer suggests either dole or mummy and daddy.

[WOMBAI]

How do you earn your money fingers?

The lack of an answer suggests either dole or mummy and daddy.

I agree!

[Livia]

Maybe we should all say what we do and how much we earn, then we can run it past the OP and supporters, make sure it's acceptable to them.

[fingers]

How do you earn your money fingers?

The lack of an answer suggests either dole or mummy and daddy.

Wrong, I've decided to invent a cult and live on donations!! :joker::joker::joker::wavey:

[Peter Plunker]

Wrong, I've decided to invent a cult and live on donations!! :joker::joker::joker::wavey:

How do you earn your money fingers?

[stoney]

Wrong, I've decided to invent a cult and live on donations!! :joker::joker::joker::wavey:

when's the first meeting, what's it about( the cult?) and how much to join :conf:

[CaudleHalbard]

Are Dave's cult (The New Ecstatics) a registered charity, does anyone know?

One suspects Dave draws state benefits as well as anything received from his bunch of former druggies and alcoholics.

If either or both of the above is the case, it is then a matter of public interest - as it is our tax money involved.

[flamingGalah!]

If he had anything to hide - he would hardly go on such a public tv show and expose himself, not only to riducule from all the sceptics, but potential investigations if any 'concerns' arose! He is not a stupid man - I seriously doubt he would have put himself in that position if he had anything to worry about! Cults are usually very private and hide away from publicity! He may appear odd, he may be eccentric - doesn't make him a conman!

He is stupid, all those drugs have fu**ed his head, that is quite obvious...

All the drunk on god crap is bo**ocks & you know it...

And he IS a con man if he is suggesting he can cure people of cancer etc...

Just think how many vulnerable people suffering from illness may pay him loads of dosh to join his cult to be "cured"... :nono:

[fingers]

when's the first meeting, what's it about( the cult?) and how much to join :conf:

I will have to get the details from Peter Plonker since his master, the weird monk, is unavailable until he gets evicted.
:dance:

[flamingGalah!]

Aye up, here's the other one, roll call! Now we just need chuff and Vasaviuvuius for a full class.

Oh look there is Dave's lap dog... ;)

I bet you really love him don't you?? I bet you really hate his wife though... chuckle... :joker:

[Peter Plunker]

Yawn.

[Zippy]

He sells his ass in the backstreets of Kings cross.

He gets extra by wearing the Monk outfit.

[stoney]

I will have to get the details from Peter Plonker since his master, the weird monk, is unavailable until he gets evicted.
:dance:

i'm all :conf: its your cult but you will have to check with peter:conf:

i think you must be a false prophet:nono:

[WOMBAI]

Are Dave's cult (The New Ecstatics) a registered charity, does anyone know?

One suspects Dave draws state benefits as well as anything received from his bunch of former druggies and alcoholics.

If either or both of the above is the case, it is then a matter of public interest - as it is our tax money involved.

If Dave or his group were doing anything illegal - do you seriously believe Dave would have appeared on such a tv show and exposed himself and his group to such scrunity! Just doesn't add up!

[WOMBAI]

Oh look there is Dave's lap dog... ;)

I bet you really love him don't you?? I bet you really hate his wife though... chuckle... :joker:

Cheap shot - the ploy of those scratching around for a decent argument!

[Peter Plunker]

FWIW, Dave recieves a very modest income and pays tax like the rest of us. Please don't let the facts stop you from bitching though.

[CaudleHalbard]

Dave and his cult may be acting within the letter of the law but sailing close to it - especially if he is drawing benefits and taking part of the donations to use on himself and his family.

[Peter Plunker]

Oh, nearly forgot! How do you earn your money fingers?

[Peter Plunker]

He's not on state benefits!

[stoney]

Dave and his cult may be acting within the letter of the law but sailing close to it - especially if he is drawing benefits and taking part of the donations to use on himself and his family.


that is a really big IF:nono:

[WOMBAI]

He is stupid, all those drugs have fu**ed his head, that is quite obvious...

All the drunk on god crap is bo**ocks & you know it...

And he IS a con man if he is suggesting he can cure people of cancer etc...

Just think how many vulnerable people suffering from illness may pay him loads of dosh to join his cult to be "cured"... :nono:

I didn't see/hear him say that - and only have the exaggeration prone forum member's words for that, so, excuse me if I don't listen to them! Knowing the Dave haters - they have twisted his words and blown them out of all proportion, as is usually the case!

[fingers]

Oh, nearly forgot! How do you earn your money fingers?

http://endtimespropheticwords.wordpress.com/category/dave-vaughan/

same as the weird monk, hopefully!

[CaudleHalbard]

He's not on state benefits!

Do we have specific knowledge of this, e.g. has Dave publicly stated it? Has the Social Security Agency confirmed it?

that is a really big IF:nono:

It's no bigger an if than any other if! :D

Dave looked shifty when Keely was questioning him...............

[fingers]

He told Steve in the house that he could grow him new legs (with the help of Jesus)

I hope Peter Plonker can let me in on this secret.

[Peter Plunker]

Do we have specific knowledge of this, e.g. has Dave publicly stated it? Has the Social Security Agency confirmed it?



It's no bigger an if than any other if! :D

Dave looked shifty when Keely was questioning him...............

Social Security!! You're behind by about 20 years!

I know he's not on the dole.
He probably couldn't believe the cheek of someone quizzing him on his income within minutes of meeting them.

[Peter Plunker]

He told Steve in the house that he could grow him new legs (with the help of Jesus)

I hope Peter Plonker can let me in on this secret.

How do you earn you money fingers?

[vesavius]

Social Security!! You're behind by about 20 years!

I know he's not on the dole.
He probably couldn't believe the cheek of someone quizzing him on his income within minutes of meeting them.

I agree with Peter, Dave isnt on the dole.



Dave draws a wage from the coffers of the cult he created.


I guess sitting around 'drunk' watching TV, with maybe a bit of talking to 'drunk' friends in the evening, with regular extended holidays to other cults around the world at their expense, isnt a bad life.

[WOMBAI]

Fingers is being very secretive about what he does for a living - despite calling-out others! Question answered as far as I am concerned!

[fingers]

How do you earn you money fingers?

http://endtimespropheticwords.wordpress.com/category/dave-vaughan/

[vesavius]

How do you earn you money fingers?

Fingers didnt enter a reality TV show and willingly open up himself and his life to public scrutiny.

He also isnt using the same said show as a platform to promote his cult (his business).

He has no obligation to tell you how much he earns.

Stop trying to switch the conversation away from Dave. We are here to talk about HMs, not forum members.

[fingers]

Fingers didnt enter a reality TV show and willingly open up himself and his life to public scrutiny.

He also isnt using the same said show as a platform to promote his cult (his business).

He has no obligation to tell you how much he earns.

Stop trying to switch the conversation away from Dave. We are here to talk about HMs, not forum members.
Ah let them play their stupid games, most people can see through that ploy, and it allows me to give them more free publicity like this:


http://endtimespropheticwords.wordpress.com/category/dave-vaughan/


EDIT: Notice how Peter side stepped the question of growing new legs for Steve!!!!

[WOMBAI]

Fingers didnt enter a reality TV show and willingly open up himself and his life to public scrutiny.

He also isnt using the same said show as a platform to promote his cult (his business).

He has no obligation to tell you how much he earns.

Stop trying to switch the conversation away from Dave. We are here to talk about HMs, not forum members.

Not how much - just what he does - that he doesn't claim benefit! Hardly appropriate for one benefit claimant to vilify another!

[vesavius]

Not how much - just what he does - that he doesn't claim benefit! Hardly appropriate for one benefit claimant to vilify another!

he dosent have to tell you anything.

This forum is about HMs, not forum users. Thats something you seem to struggle with repeatedly.

[fingers]

It is curious how all of St. Daves "supporters/defenders" WILL NOT address the issue of how he can grow new legs for Steve by the "laying on of his hands" That was a pretty stupid statement to make on TV and as we are constantly reminded St. Dave is NOT a stupid man!!

[WOMBAI]

he dosent have to tell you anything.

This forum is about HMs, not forum users. Thats something you seem to struggle with repeatedly.

Cop out! Members shouldn't make repeated and unfounded allegations about hms then. He entered the bb house (a gameshow) - he isn't running for election as an MP - he doesn't owe anyone an explanation of his personal life either!

[flamingGalah!]

Cheap shot - the ploy of those scratching around for a decent argument!

Just using the same cheap ploy as Peter Plonker in naming a few forum members who dislike his very close & personal friend...

I didn't see/hear him say that - and only have the exaggeration prone forum member's words for that, so, excuse me if I don't listen to them! Knowing the Dave haters - they have twisted his words and blown them out of all proportion, as is usually the case!

Honestly Dave DID say that. He said a woman who had a tumor on her throat had it disappear after he placed his hands on her neck! He also said of others he had cured & told Steve he could place his hands on his stumps if he wanted him to so he could grow him new legs!!!!

ALL TRUE!!!! Do a search...

:nono:

[fingers]

http://endtimespropheticwords.wordpress.com/category/dave-vaughan/

How does St. Dave "grow new Legs"//

[WOMBAI]

It is curious how all of St. Daves "supporters/defenders" WILL NOT address the issue of how he can grow new legs for Steve by the "laying on of his hands" That was a pretty stupid statement to make on TV and as we are constantly reminded St. Dave is NOT a stupid man!!

Because the supporters know how the haters tell porkies - and twist words, actions and events to suit their own agendas!

[flamingGalah!]

Because the supporters know how the haters tell porkies - and twist words, actions and events to suit their own agendas!

But he DID bloody say it though!! Do a search if you think we are lying... :rolleyes:

I'm sure Peter Plonker will tell you himself how many people Dave has "cured"...

[fingers]

Just using the same cheap ploy as Peter Plonker in naming a few forum members who dislike his very close & personal friend...



Honestly Dave DID say that. He said a woman who had a tumor on her throat had it disappear after he placed his hands on her neck! He also said of others he had cured & told Steve he could place his hands on his stumps if he wanted him to so he could grow him new legs!!!!

ALL TRUE!!!! Do a search...

:nono:

Some people on here cant't handle the truth, they are so used to twisting it to fit their own purposes!

[Peter Plunker]

Dave hasn't cured anyone, God does that. I've seen hundreds of healings, believe it or don't, i couldn't care less.

How do you earn your money fingers?

[Peter Plunker]

It's fine if you don't answer me fingers, it just makes you look like a right tool.

[vesavius]

Dave hasn't cured anyone, God does that. I've seen hundreds of healings, believe it or don't, i couldn't care less.

How do you earn your money fingers?

But Dave channels that healing?

[flamingGalah!]

Dave hasn't cured anyone, God does that. I've seen hundreds of healings, believe it or don't, i couldn't care less.

How do you earn your money fingers?

LOL!!!!! You actually made me laugh out loud then... Bless.... :joker: :joker:

[flamingGalah!]

It's fine if you don't answer me fingers, it just makes you look like a right tool.

The opposite is true of you... ;)

[Peter Plunker]

LOL!!!!! You actually made me laugh out loud then... Bless.... :joker: :joker:

Good.

[fingers]

It's fine if you don't answer me fingers, it just makes you look like a right tool.

Can ST. Dave channel god's love into new legs for STEVE??

[Peter Plunker]

We'll see.


How do you earn your money fingers?

[fingers]

Please answer the question Peter - can St.Dave channel God's love into new legs for Steve?

[fingers]

We'll see.


How do you earn your money fingers?

Guess that answers the question!!! lol:elephant::dance::wavey:

[vesavius]

How do you earn your money fingers?



If you want to talk about forum users peter, tell us... how do you earn yours?


and also, who are you in those vids?


and what is your specific role in The New Ecstatic cult?

[flamingGalah!]

If Peter Plonker is a member of his cult then he must be an ex addict too, obviously explains his bizarre posts...

[Peter Plunker]

I don't have a role in Dave's ministry other than being his mate, I'm not in any of his vids. I'm a design and technology teacher.

Right, you turn.

[fingers]

What is your role in fundraising for the New Ecstatics Peter?

[Peter Plunker]

I don't have one.
How do you earn your money fingers?

[fruit_cake]

he's clearly not short of a few bob given the size of his waistline though

[vesavius]

I don't have one.


lol right.

[fingers]

If Peter Plonker is a member of his cult then he must be an ex addict too, obviously explains his bizarre posts...

Well, he's not about to admit that, is he, just as he won't tell us how St. Dave intends to grow new legs for Steve!

[Peter Plunker]

Bye bye kids, I have lunch to cook. See if you can come up with some new lies while I'm away, these are boring now.

[fingers]

I don't have one.
How do you earn your money fingers?

What size is YOUR waist Pete?

[fingers]

Bye bye kids, I have lunch to cook. See if you can come up with some new lies while I'm away, these are boring now.

Here is a good lie for you to take with you St. Dave did not say on TV that he could grow new legs for steve. lol

[supergirthuk]

Dave is just floggining a product, albeit non-tangible, but a product anyway. If there is a market that will buy it then good luck to him. Its no different than any other church or insurance company or the likes. If there is a demand for the stuff he does then what is the problem?

[vesavius]

Dave is just floggining a product, albeit non-tangible, but a product anyway. If there is a market that will buy it then good luck to him. Its no different than any other church or insurance company or the likes. If there is a demand for the stuff he does then what is the problem?

Selling membership to a cult isnt the same as selling insurance.

Thats the problem.

[fingers]

Conning gullible people that he can cure cancer and grow new limbs is not like flogging beans in a supermarket.

[chuff me dizzy]

When keeley ask Dave about how he supports himself/ how being a minister, left me a bit wondering a bit, his strange explanation on how he supports himself

he went on to say: "in different ways we have partners that support us, bring ministries from other parts of the world and I set up conferences and then I do my own conferences, then I go to churches and speak in churches"

Uhmm got the funny feeling he has some explaining to do to his congregation...
:shocked:

Please !! he is NOT a minister of any shape or form ,hes part of a dodgy cult ,he should not be allowed to wear a monks outfit has he has nothing to do with any REAL church

[chuff me dizzy]

Conning gullible people that he can cure cancer and grow new limbs is not like flogging beans in a supermarket.

BUt the sick and gullible will pay for this promise

[chuff me dizzy]

I don't have one.
How do you earn your money fingers?

Right clever boy ,does Dave claim benefits from the state

[fingers]

BUt the sick and gullible will pay for this promise

I don't think Steve gave any credence to that crap!! lol:dance:

[WOMBAI]

Some people on here cant't handle the truth, they are so used to twisting it to fit their own purposes!

Says the expert on truth twisting! :joker:

[fingers]

Right clever boy ,does Dave claim benefits from the state

Pete said No he Doesn't, But Pete is kinda brainwashed, lol

[WOMBAI]

I don't have a role in Dave's ministry other than being his mate, I'm not in any of his vids. I'm a design and technology teacher.

Right, you turn.

You just owned them - well done! :joker:

[WOMBAI]

Right clever boy ,does Dave claim benefits from the state

He answered that earlier - no!

[hels.a]

Where has the idea that Dave is on benefits even come from?
He is a minister like any other and earns a wage, you don't have to pay to join his church or get healed, you make a donation if you WANT to, and ministers pay tax like everybody else.

[vesavius]

Where has the idea that Dave is on benefits even come from?
He is a minister like any other and earns a wage, you don't have to pay to join his church or get healed, you make a donation if you WANT to, and ministers pay tax like everybody else.

I have already told people that dave takes a wage from his self created cult.

Lets not even start talking about the nature of 'donations' in such thing though.

[fingers]

Where has the idea that Dave is on benefits even come from?
He is a minister like any other and earns a wage, you don't have to pay to join his church or get healed, you make a donation if you WANT to, and ministers pay tax like everybody else.

He is not an ordained minister he created the title for himself

possibly like this asshole:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eDOQyikIUdA

[fingers]

This is another of St. Daves "mates"

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8N8izKEfbaE&NR=1

[MojoNixon]

When keeley ask Dave about how he supports himself/ how being a minister, left me a bit wondering a bit, his strange explanation on how he supports himself

he went on to say: "in different ways we have partners that support us, bring ministries from other parts of the world and I set up conferences and then I do my own conferences, then I go to churches and speak in churches"

Uhmm got the funny feeling he has some explaining to do to his congregation...
:shocked:

At least he is doing something, unlike shabby.

[fingers]

And THIS is easier than sniffing Jesus Juice!

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=itAUIaMM5zQ

[vesavius]

Another nice vid, looking at how these people get their money.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=w6qYo5aMf_c&feature=related

[fingers]

Stand up St. Dave, Dammit stand up!! lol Wonder if that's Pete holding him up?

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Af82HUus3UA&feature=related

[Livia]

He is not an ordained minister he created the title for himself

possibly like this asshole:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eDOQyikIUdA

I'm no expert on the Bible, but as far as I am aware, Jesus wasn't an ordained minister either. I can understand you not liking Dave, but your arguments against him are paper thin and show that you really don't know too much about him or the subject you're arguing against. If he was doing something immoral, illegal or even questionable, you may have a point. But you really don't.

[CaudleHalbard]

I know he's not on the dole.


I agree with Peter, Dave isnt on the dole.


HOW do you know? Do tell! :D

[fingers]

The new HMs have already sussed him out!

http://www.channel4.com/bigbrother/video/2010/Jul/11/josie-is-dave-a-loony/play.c4

Even his "best friend" Ben ridicules him!

[fingers]

I'm no expert on the Bible, but as far as I am aware, Jesus wasn't an ordained minister either. I can understand you not liking Dave, but your arguments against him are paper thin and show that you really don't know too much about him or the subject you're arguing against. If he was doing something immoral, illegal or even questionable, you may have a point. But you really don't.

Your argument that Jesus was not an ordained ministeer is patently ludicrous and does you no favours! lol

[fingers]

Latest dodgy claim! he's been to the Sun!!!!!

when was he ever in Wapping! lol

http://www.channel4.com/bigbrother/article/news/2010/Jul/11/andrew-isn-t-a-believer/view.c4

[Peter Plunker]

How do you earn your money fingers?

[fingers]

How do you earn your money fingers?

I'm a Professor of Theology at Jesus College Oxford.

How big is your waist, Pete?

and how many limbs has St. Dave regrown?

Oh and "fingers" is not my real name!

[Peter Plunker]

'ok'

[InOne]

Does the OP mean 'dodgy'?

[WOMBAI]

Where has the idea that Dave is on benefits even come from?
He is a minister like any other and earns a wage, you don't have to pay to join his church or get healed, you make a donation if you WANT to, and ministers pay tax like everybody else.

Some people making assumptions, as usual! They were like a dog with a bone with that one!

[fingers]

Does the OP mean 'dodgy'?

Yup!:joker:

[WOMBAI]

Does the OP mean 'dodgy'?

The op is on a crusade! :joker:

[fingers]

This is how St Dave gets gullible people to fund his lifestyle!

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=w6qYo5aMf_c&feature=related:wavey:

[ange7]

He draws a wage from the cult he set up and leads.
lol!...Why do you have my uncle Spiro as you avatar. That pic is from Sydney!...Greek orthodox church has a swimming contest and the winner get to put that cross around their neck and gets blessed by the papa (priest). lol sorry... really shocked to see that hehe

[vesavius]

lol!...Why do you have my uncle Spiro as you avatar. That pic is from Sydney!...Greek orthodox church has a swimming contest and the winner get to put that cross around their neck and gets blessed by the papa (priest). lol sorry... really shocked to see that hehe

haha really? it just made me chuckle! I will remove it if it bothers you :)

[ange7]

How do you earn your money fingers?
he sets up conferences and then he does his own conferences
$$$$
snooze you lose Peter

[fingers]

haha really? it just made me chuckle! I will remove it if it bothers you :)

If St. Dave had a moustache and didn't shave his chest, he'd look like that under his Friar Tuck costume!:dance:

[Livia]

Your argument that Jesus was not an ordained ministeer is patently ludicrous and does you no favours! lol

Whereas you think yours doesn't make you look like a raving hysteric? Let it go for goodness sake. You're allowed to dislike some people but you don't have to start a Holy crusade.

Incidentally, what exactly is a "doggy explanation"? Does anyone know?

[ange7]

haha really? it just made me chuckle! I will remove it if it bothers you :)
nah it's funny ... it's been drifting around the internet for a few year. Rightly because it looks like this guy is into 'bling' but lol yeah ... it's a greek thing here in Sydney. Don't bother.

[vesavius]

nah it's funny ... it's been drifting around the internet for a few year. Rightly because it looks like this guy is into 'bling' but lol yeah ... it's a greek thing here in Sydney. Don't bother.

yeah, it was the trunks and bling thing that made me chuckle. ok will keep it up for the time, thanks for being cool :)

[vesavius]

You're allowed to dislike some people but you don't have to start a Holy crusade.

I am sorry, I don't like profit making cults that target vulnerable groups and make false claims about being able to heal by channelling 'the glory'.

[fingers]

Why would a so-calle "Man of God" use such a vile description as Jesus Juice to describe his intoxicant?

does he know that the origin of the "drink" was to get young children drunk and amenable to molestation?

if he does, does he care?

http://www.urbandictionary.com/define.php?term=jesus+juice

[AtomicKitty]

Are Dave's cult (The New Ecstatics) a registered charity, does anyone know?

One suspects Dave draws state benefits as well as anything received from his bunch of former druggies and alcoholics.

If either or both of the above is the case, it is then a matter of public interest - as it is our tax money involved.

totally agree that is exactly my point....

[AtomicKitty]

If Peter Plonker is a member of his cult then he must be an ex addict too, obviously explains his bizarre posts...


Just what I was thinking about

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Just what I was thinking about

Now Pete Plonker and WOBBLE will be back! lol:joker:

[AtomicKitty]

Dave is just floggining a product, albeit non-tangible, but a product anyway. If there is a market that will buy it then good luck to him. Its no different than any other church or insurance company or the likes. If there is a demand for the stuff he does then what is the problem?

Selling a membership to a cult or church is not the same as selling insurance.
for one an insurance company is a register business and pays taxes off the money it makes.
so is Dave paying the tax man his tax contributions from the money his business makes and more so is he paying taxes on the "contributions' he pockets? because if it is a salary he better be paying taxes on that like everyone else...
his website is a .COM not a .ORG which means that the donations made on that website not for a charitable tax exempt institution like a church but instead...
if I was a church goer I would be concern

[fingers]

Selling a membership to a cult or church is not the same as selling insurance.
for one an insurance company is a register business and pays taxes off the money it makes.
so is Dave paying the tax man his tax contributions from the money his business makes and more so is he paying taxes on the "contributions' he pockets? because if it is a salary he better be paying taxes on that like everyone else...
his website is a .COM not a .ORG which means that the donations made on that website not for a charitable tax exempt institution like a church but instead...
if I was a church goer I would be concern

That's more or less what was said before!