Facts about Dave

[Peter Plunker]

Dave is not in a cult.

Dave is not gay.

Dave does not charge people for prayer, do you really think God would answer if he did?

Dave earns his living as a full time minister. This entails speaking at various churches and conferences. This is largely self financed, his ministry does recieve some support from people that want to send him money.

Dave does not claim that he can cure diseases, he claims God can, this is in line with Christian scripture.

These are facts, not opinions.

[flamingGalah!]

Dave is not in a cult.

Dave is not gay.

Dave does not charge people for prayer, do you really think God would answer if he did?

Dave earns his living as a full time minister. This entails speaking at various churches and conferences. This is largely self financed, his ministry does recieve some support from people that want to send him money.

Dave does not claim that he can cure diseases, he claims God can, this is in line with Christian scripture.

These are facts, not opinions.

These are NOT facts, they are your opinions as a close friend of his... :sleep:

[fingers]

Erm, which seminary did he attend and where and when was he ordained as a MINISTER?

[paper-cut-exit]

Dave is not in a cult.

Dave is not gay.

Dave does not charge people for prayer, do you really think God would answer if he did?

Dave earns his living as a full time minister. This entails speaking at various churches and conferences. This is largely self financed, his ministry does recieve some support from people that want to send him money.

Dave does not claim that he can cure diseases, he claims God can, this is in line with Christian scripture.

These are facts, not opinions.


Your as loon-toons as Dave, i widnae believe a word you said either!

[eye sea]

Dave is not in a cult.

Dave is not gay.

Dave does not charge people for prayer, do you really think God would answer if he did?

Dave earns his living as a full time minister. This entails speaking at various churches and conferences. This is largely self financed, his ministry does recieve some support from people that want to send him money.

Dave does not claim that he can cure diseases, he claims God can, this is in line with Christian scripture.

These are facts, not opinions.

That seems very very very very fair.

[WOMBAI]

These are NOT facts, they are your opinions as a close friend of his... :sleep:

Just as your opinions are your opinions - nothing more! :sleep:

[flamingGalah!]

Just as your opinions are your opinions - nothing more! :sleep:

Well obviously, I'm not the one going round stating it as fact am I?? :sleep: :nono:

[Hero1]

Dave earns his living as a full time minister


ENOUGH SAID, PIMPING JESUS, NO ONE SHOULD MAKE MONEY OF CHRIST, GO OUT AND WORK LIKE A MAN. IT IS SAID CHRIST WAS A FISHERMAN AND FIXED NETS (WELL PAYING TRADE BACK THEN) WHICH ALL WOULD HAVE BEEN MANUAL HARD LABOUR, SKILLS, TRADE AND AN HONEST TAX PAYER.

[WOMBAI]

Well obviously, I'm not the one going round stating it as fact am I?? :sleep: :nono:

Yes you are! :nono:

[Hero1]

He is living of his congregation, so far I see no one special on my TV to have that luxury of deluded folks who have given up their hard earned cash in the name of Christ.

[Livia]

Dave earns his living as a full time minister


ENOUGH SAID, PIMPING JESUS, NO ONE SHOULD MAKE MONEY OF CHRIST, GO OUT AND WORK LIKE A MAN. IT IS SAID CHRIST WAS A FISHERMAN AND FIXED NETS (WELL PAYING TRADE BACK THEN) WHICH ALL WOULD HAVE BEEN MANUAL HARD LABOUR, SKILLS, TRADE AND AN HONEST TAX PAYER.

Ahhh... another Jesus Expert.

And stop shouting, do.

[flamingGalah!]

Yes you are! :nono:

No I think you will find it was Peter Plunker who stated what he wrote wasn't his opinion, but was FACT :sleep:

[WOMBAI]

No I think you will find it was Peter Plunker who stated what he wrote wasn't his opinion, but was FACT :sleep:

You have been calling Dave a fraud and a charleton!

[flamingGalah!]

You have been calling Dave a fraud and a charleton!

And?? Did I say it was FACT? No... Fail... :sleep:

[fingers]

Erm, which seminary did he attend and where and when was he ordained as a MINISTER?

[WOMBAI]

And?? Did I say it was FACT? No... Fail... :sleep:

You implied it - you're just playing with words now - in effect, back-tracking! :sleep:

[DrunkerThanMoses]

Another great fact, I jsut need to get on the x24 and Im in his home town in 10 mins

[flamingGalah!]

You implied it - you're just playing with words now - in effect, back-tracking! :sleep:

No, you are. You were implying I said something I didn't... No playing with words at all... :nono: :sleep:

[WOMBAI]

No, you are. You were implying I said something I didn't... No playing with words at all... :nono: :sleep:

I think we should leave that decision to others reading the threads!

[fingers]

Erm.... which seminary did he attend and where and when was he ordained as a MINISTER?

[Hero1]

Ahhh... another Jesus Expert.

And stop shouting, do.

Sorry, usual when I shout in here, the board software programme puts it back on small caps.

[reece(:]

What about being drunk on the lords love, thats a load of bull!

[bansheewails]

Erm am I missing something, because priests live off their congreations too, or has that changed since I was last at mass?

[fingers]

Erm, which seminary did he attend and where and when was he ordained as a MINISTER?

[Mr XcX]

Dave is not in a cult.

Dave is not gay.

Dave does not charge people for prayer, do you really think God would answer if he did?

Dave earns his living as a full time minister. This entails speaking at various churches and conferences. This is largely self financed, his ministry does recieve some support from people that want to send him money.

Dave does not claim that he can cure diseases, he claims God can, this is in line with Christian scripture.

These are facts, not opinions.

Fact 1.
He is a FAKE and a FRAUD.

Thats it.

[WOMBAI]

Erm, which seminary did he attend and where and when was he ordained as a MINISTER?

Stuck record! :sleep:

[vesavius]

Dave is not in a cult.

yes he is, by defintion. This has been proven.

Dave does not charge people for prayer, do you really think God would answer if he did?

No, he dosent actively charge, but thats not how most donations are gathered in most cults is it? I am sure it is willingly accepted from the deceived.

and you really offer up the claimed 'answering of God' as proof? can you link me any medically validated proof that he has cured anyone at all ever?

if not, where is the evidence that God does indeed answer?

Dave earns his living as a full time minister. This entails speaking at various churches and conferences. This is largely self financed, his ministry does recieve some support from people that want to send him money.

Self financed how? from the sale of DVDs and the like to the deceived? From the coffers of other cults that have gatherd funds from their own deceived?

and as for accepting donations, yes, I am sure he does.

Dave does not claim that he can cure diseases, he claims God can, this is in line with Christian scripture.

But Dave claims he can channel the power of God to heal? This is just careful word play.


These are your 'facts'? Really?

[WOMBAI]

Fact 1.
He is a FAKE and a FRAUD.

Thats it.

Remind me not to ask you for a legitimate definition of anything! :hugesmile:

[fingers]

Erm.... which seminary did he attend and where and when was he ordained as a MINISTER?

[flamingGalah!]

I think we should leave that decision to others reading the threads!

No. You were wrong. End of.

[SocietyIsRuined]

He's about as religious as Jim Jones. Hide the Kool Aid from the housemates.

[WOMBAI]

Erm.... which seminary did he attend and where and when was he ordained as a MINISTER?

Desperado! :joker:

[fingers]

Now he has gone to the Diary Room in a panic about what Andrew said!

[Josy]

Erm.... which seminary did he attend and where and when was he ordained as a MINISTER?

:laugh3: Your determined to get an answer eh?

I think he might have you on ignore.

[coolestrock]

I dont like dave or anything he has to say,,,the fraudster

[vesavius]

I will repeat here for clarity, seeing as a new thread was made in an effort to shift the conversation;

In religion and sociology, a cult is a group of people devoted to beliefs and goals which are not held by the majority of society, often religious in nature. Its marginal status may come about either due to its novel belief system or due to idiosyncratic practices that cause the surrounding culture to regard it as far outside the mainstream.


Counterfeit religions are also skilled at focusing their members’ attention on peripheral issues. They most often appeal to their emotions by talking about love and by getting people heavily involved in church-sponsored social events, or even missionary-type activities. If their members feel good about what they are doing, it makes little difference to them what they are being taught. Such people often remain loyal to a counterfeit church no matter what. Even when some are exposed as frauds, it doesn’t keep a loyal, but ignorant, few from continuing to support them.

Among those counterfeit churches that do study the Bible, many use only a small portion of it. They constantly refer to pet scriptures that can seem to support their beliefs. Often they have pulled these verses out of context and misinterpreted them, giving a far different impression than what the Bible actually means.

Proverbs 16:25 says, “There is a way which seems right to a man, but its end is the way to death” (Revised Standard Version).

[fingers]

:laugh3: Your determined to get an answer eh?

I think he might have you on ignore.

Nah he just can't answer it, St.Dave woke up one morning and decided that God had made him a minister.

[vesavius]

it's an entire 'religion' based on acid flashbacks.

[Josy]

OT - Vesavius what is that in your avatar, i feel as if ive seen it before somewere :conf:

[vesavius]

OT - Vesavius what is that in your avatar, i feel as if ive seen it before somewere :conf:

It's a Skeksis from the Dark Crystal, reminded me of Corin lmao :D

[fingers]

OT - Vesavius what is that in your avatar, i feel as if ive seen it before somewere :conf:

It's a Familiar!!! lol

[Hero1]

Dave has been in that house for over a month, yet to see him fast ONCE.

Fasting is an important diet to any Christian and one that is self ordained so high, should be showing practical requires of a Christian.

Not even sure if the pig personally prays before he eats or gives thanks?

[SmokinCorpse]

What about being drunk on the lords love, thats a load of bull!

Its called brain damage from all his past drug use ;)

[fingers]

Why the secrecy about where and WHEN St. Dave was ORDAINED a Minister of RELIGION?

Not such a difficult question, is it?

[camertone]

dave is a conman! he scams people for money, he uses religion for personal monetary gain!

he is a hypocrite and homophobic! i thank keeley for exposing what a disgusting troll he is!!

[WOMBAI]

dave is a conman! he scams people for money, he uses religion for personal monetary gain!

he is a hypocrite and homophobic! i thank keeley for exposing what a disgusting troll he is!!

I suspect Keeley is a bigger fraud than Dave - with an agenda of her own!

[fingers]

Why the secrecy about where and WHEN St. Dave was ORDAINED a Minister of RELIGION?

Not such a difficult question, is it?

[paper-cut-exit]

Why the secrecy about where and WHEN St. Dave was ORDAINED a Minister of RELIGION?

Not such a difficult question, is it?


Possibly because it's that much of a secret that no-one even knows... not even Dave!

Oh apart from God that is... he's gotta know i would imagine :D

[WOMBAI]

Why the secrecy about where and WHEN St. Dave was ORDAINED a Minister of RELIGION?

Not such a difficult question, is it?

Plenty of your 'questions' have been answered - but you aren't listening! You are just on a witchunt! :sleep:

[Mr XcX]

I just am Obsessed with FAKE housemates.

[fingers]

Would be nice to know!

Why the secrecy about where and WHEN St. Dave was ORDAINED a Minister of RELIGION?

Not such a difficult question, is it?

[paper-cut-exit]

Would be nice to know!

Why the secrecy about where and WHEN St. Dave was ORDAINED a Minister of RELIGION?

Not such a difficult question, is it?

It's a reasonable, straight forward, and fair question imo.

[fingers]

Usually Pete Plonker is so quick to defend his "mate" but obviously this is such a HARD question to answer!

[Mr XcX]

Did you all see how aggressive Dave's friends were on BBBM. Watch it the week Nathan is on. They cannot love people if they behave like that

[paper-cut-exit]

Usually Pete Plonker is so quick to defend his "mate" but obviously this is such a HARD question to answer!

Looked to me like Peter chose to ignore the question... which suggests to me that he doesn't know the answer.

I'm just stating the obvious here tho huh.

[coolestrock]

Did you all see how aggressive Dave's friends were on BBBM. Watch it the week Nathan is on. They cannot love people if they behave like that

i watched that bbbm and i agree his mates were aggressive,,,,i feel like there is something suspicious about them something doesnt feel right about this clan,,,i certainly wouldnt trust them to speak about christ to anyone i know.

This drunk on the lord business is very disturbing and the sooner dave is out the better

[paper-cut-exit]

Did you all see how aggressive Dave's friends were on BBBM. Watch it the week Nathan is on. They cannot love people if they behave like that

One of them sure had a few words of wisdom tho huh... when he said "opinions are like arseholes... everyone has one" lol :joker:

Not the sorta thing i expected Dave's close friends to come out with.

[WOMBAI]

Would be nice to know!

Why the secrecy about where and WHEN St. Dave was ORDAINED a Minister of RELIGION?

Not such a difficult question, is it?

Came across this on the net! It is an American site - but shouldn't imagine things are any different here!

Q. Does a person have to be an ordained minister to start a church?

No, a person does not need to be an ordained minister prior to starting a church. The Bible doesn’t teach that only currently ordained clergy may start a church. Anyone who has been called by God into the ministry is qualified to start a church, and may thereafter be ordained through that church. Individuals who were previously ordained through a church or church denomination may start a church even if their ministerial credentials have been revoked. If you believe that you've been called by God to enter the full-time ministry but you'd like to be ordained in a new church that you start or help to start, rather than in an existing one, you may be ordained in that new church.

[chuff me dizzy]

These are NOT facts, they are your opinions as a close friend of his... :sleep:

WELL SAID !!Flamin ,another conman ,birds of a feather and all that :sleep:

[fingers]

WELL SAID !!Flamin ,another conman ,birds of a feather and all that :sleep:

'birds of a feather' brings to mind the "Rev." Ian Paisley another so-called Christian bigot!