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[Jamie888]

The Monk is laughing like a hyena saying he is posessed by the holy spirit..he has just about cleared the room....growing up as a catholic i understand the influence the church can have on you but he has taken it to another level and added his own crap which is worrying...very worrying...think Waco and you will be on the right track....:devil:

[vesavius]

he has a jug of Kool Aid in the kitchen.

[paper-cut-exit]

I think he's suffering from burnt-out junkie syndrome tbh.

[starry]

Does it actually hurt anyone in the house though?

[supergirthuk]

I think a few may just die of embarrassment so yeh.

[spitfire]

He was absolutely pathetic.

[ElProximo]

The Monk is laughing like a hyena saying he is posessed by the holy spirit..he has just about cleared the room....growing up as a catholic i understand the influence the church can have on you but he has taken it to another level and added his own crap which is worrying...very worrying...think Waco and you will be on the right track....:devil:

I don't think he is in danger of a Waco style incident as he is unlikely to kill members of another cult to revenge fellow police officers,
but,
yes, he is heavily deluded into psychosomatic 'fleshly' experiences which he seems to believe are from God.

IF you wanted to go by some of the statistics out there it is much more likely the homosexual in the house will end up in a suicide and/or murder incident in their life.
Not that I suppose anyone in there will end up in any of those situations.

But yeah.. David's cult is not 'especially' infatuated with End Times and Apocalyptic stuff which is what can lead to that kind of trouble seen in Waco.
Not yet.
Given enough time you watch and they will but for whatever reason I don't see David going there.
I'd say he is the one who.. when the group does decide to go horribly 'grape kool-aid wrong' he will lead the group that splits away and is later interviewed on the news about what the other group did.

[stonedape]

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see? It could be worse. :thumbs:

[ElProximo]

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see? It could be worse. :thumbs:

No, its not worse but I am pretty sure this topic wasn't started so people like you can find some antichristian clips and start loading the thread with them?

[stonedape]

No, its not worse but I am pretty sure this topic wasn't started so people like you can find some antichristian clips and start loading the thread with them?

yeah, your tripe is so much more necessary/entertaining. It's 2 clips, suck it up. And Jesus Camp isn't anti-christian, evangelicals in America liked the film. It's revealing you say it's anti-christian. My point was that the Brits have it easy compared to Aussies and Americans, but I didn't know it needed s-p-e-l-l-i-n-g o-u-t.

[ElProximo]

yeah, your tripe is so much more necessary/entertaining. It's 2 clips, suck it up. And Jesus Camp isn't anti-christian, evangelicals in America liked the film. It's revealing you say it's anti-christian. My point was that the Brits have it easy compared to Aussies and Americans, but I didn't know it needed s-p-e-l-l-i-n-g o-u-t.

I'm aware that 'Jesus Camp' was actually put together by concerned Christians who were, in effect, their own 'error-checking mechanism',
however,
people like you think it is useful antichristian propaganda and believe that is what your achieving. It does work too,
and,
you can actually see your misunderstanding (and consequent deceptive communication) when you say things like 'compared to Americans'.

In fact, 'Jesus Camp' type of Pentecostalism is a fringe in the USA and makes up a very small portion of the Christian body there,
so,
to put it in comparison here... I could confidently guesstimate that a comparable number of Brits (or more) attend 'Spirtualism Churches'.
However, credit due to the USA is that when a fringe of them does go to 'Jesus Camp' they respond with exposing it and criticizing it.

Brits like you don't get to s-p-e-l-l anything to anyone after they make a generalization based on just several children in several cringing moments in one Jesus Camp.
People like you post video clips of Theroux's 'most hated family' and actually believe that is what Americans are doing.

I can EASILY find you 10 manic street preachers (not the band) in just Manchester.
I could go take video clips like the ones you found in Liverpool this week with full on shaking, rolling and hysterical behavior.
You could find 20 Spiritualism Churches in London by tomorrow afternoon.

But anyways... I'd rather stay on topic discussing David the Housemate and what he is all about.
There are 23408234230 forum topics all over the internet doing the little 'rip on Christians' crap you can paste those types of vids on.
We only have a few about BB11 David.

[BJ]

The word charlitan springs to mind

[big_bother]

Why dont they ever show Dave in this state on the HL's ....

[poejoe]

:sleep:he's lost the plot

[rusticgal]

...the trouble is is that that is ALL dave is about.... he believes that this will win him BB.Tbh he hasnt much else to offer...whilst a decent man its his waccy religious ways that is defining his character.... the longer he stays the worse he will get... BEWARE!!

[big_bother]

The longer he stays the worse he will get... BEWARE!!

Lets hope he stays in longer then. It's all entertainment. Much better than watching Steve with his arms up on the Sofa doing absolutely nothing.

[chuff me dizzy]

Did I miss this !! bleddy hell ,mind you would my stomach have taken it ? get the one trick pony out of there ,let him go home and spew his bile and rake in dying people money to send his kids to good school ,con man and a heathen

[ElProximo]

Did I miss this !! bleddy hell ,mind you would my stomach have taken it ? get the one trick pony out of there ,let him go home and spew his bile and rake in dying people money to send his kids to good school ,con man and a heathen


David is deluded into this charismania heresy but I really wonder why you would suppose he is 'raking in dying peoples money' (if that is what you tried to write) and why you are saying 'con man',
and,
'heathen'.

I can kind of understand 'heathen' however I don't see where 'con man' or this idea of him making money comes from?

One thing I got from some brief exchanges with him - he absolutely believes what is going on with this stuff.
He really and truly thinks this is great and the real deal and when he tries to convince someone of it he is (in his mind) believing its a good idea.

[fingers]

Did he or did he not claim to have cured a woman of cancer by laying on his hands?

Did he or did he not tell Steve that God would grow him new legs if he would let him (dave) lay his hands on the stumps.

Is that Charlatanism or is it not?

[xzlr8]

did you watch how threatening and aggressive his friends were on bbbm towards another attendee when he said dave was homo-phobic!

[WOMBAI]

Did I miss this !! bleddy hell ,mind you would my stomach have taken it ? get the one trick pony out of there ,let him go home and spew his bile and rake in dying people money to send his kids to good school ,con man and a heathen

Where does the notion that his kids go to private school come from?

[Blueisthecolour]

Did he or did he not claim to have cured a woman of cancer by laying on his hands?

Did he or did he not tell Steve that God would grow him new legs if he would let him (dave) lay his hands on the stumps...[

Is that Charlatanism or is it not?

Yes...

That was clearly not serious, they were both laughing about it...

Dunno...

[crit]

I so desperately want to vote this guy out now.

[fingers]

I so desperately want to vote this guy out now.

Straight into a psychiatric ward?

[BJ]

Why dont they ever show Dave in this state on the HL's ....

Thankfully they're not indulging the idiot

[rusticgal]

Well tbh we need to get all the dullards out first.... at least he adds some sort of entertainment.

[fingers]

Well tbh we need to get all the dullards out first.... at least he adds some sort of entertainment.

That is the very real danger from these cultists, acting like they are harmless buffoons until it is too late to do anything about them.

[Livia]

No, its not worse but I am pretty sure this topic wasn't started so people like you can find some antichristian clips and start loading the thread with them?

Nice to see something sensible on these howling, hysterical 'Dave threads'. Reading some of these posts it's easy to understand how people can be whipped up into the kind of hateful frenzy where they are capable of burning another person at the stake for believing something they don't.

[chuff me dizzy]

That is the very real danger from these cultists, acting like they are harmless buffoons until it is too late to do anything about them.

i agree ,he needs to go ,whilst ever hes in there people with think hes"harmless" and hes is far from it ,he should not be allowed to advertise his sect on national tv

[Shasown]

i agree ,he needs to go ,whilst ever hes in there people with think hes"harmless" and hes is far from it ,he should not be allowed to advertise his sect on national tv

I would hardly call it advertising, he comes across as a bit of a fruit loop.

Would many people be persuaded to join his 'cult' or sect as you call it from his performance in the house?

I think most right minded people and a good few wrong minded ones simply put him down as a crank, well meaning, well intentioned, but a crank nonetheless.

[smudgie]

:joker::joker::joker: His laughing is so fake, and when he asks if "did you see my legs moving..it was the angels pulling them" I could not believe it.
He has lost the plot.

[ElProximo]

Did he or did he not claim to have cured a woman of cancer by laying on his hands?

Did he or did he not tell Steve that God would grow him new legs if he would let him (dave) lay his hands on the stumps.

Is that Charlatanism or is it not?

No, it is not 'Charlatanism'. That would be a word used to describe someone who is deliberately exaggerating/misrepresenting and deceptive about claims to special skills and cures.

David (and this is probably worse news) but David actually believes that this happened and that it can happen and will happen again. He really believes it, is convinced of it.
He is 'sincerely' claiming it.

Hey.. , you can believe I am not 'defending him' or agreeing with him. I would be MORE relieved to find out he was just an atheist trickster,
but,
sadly, its all too apparent he really does believe it and so it is incorrect to say he is a 'Charlatan' which implies or insinuates some kind of 'knowing deceit'.

[fingers]

Charlatan: someone who professes knowledge or expertise, esp in medicine, that he does not have;
A person who makes elaborate, fraudulent, and often voluble claims to skill or knowledge; a quack or fraud;
a flamboyant deceiver; one who attracts customers with tricks or jokes.

[flamingGalah!]

I honestly think he is mentally disturbed, probably long lasting damage from years of drug & alcohol abuse. He needs help...

[ElProximo]

Charlatan: someone who professes knowledge or expertise, esp in medicine, that he does not have;
A person who makes elaborate, fraudulent, and often voluble claims to skill or knowledge; a quack or fraud;
a flamboyant deceiver; one who attracts customers with tricks or jokes.

Yes.
This is what I tried to explain to you earlier. You really don't need to rub your own face in it.

Its important to identify problems first before you can solve them.

[flamingGalah!]

But Dave claims he can cure cancer & other illnesses, he obviously cannot, so he is a FRAUD is he not??? :conf:

[chuff me dizzy]

The Monk is laughing like a hyena saying he is posessed by the holy spirit..he has just about cleared the room....growing up as a catholic i understand the influence the church can have on you but he has taken it to another level and added his own crap which is worrying...very worrying...think Waco and you will be on the right track....:devil:

Firstly let me pull you up on one pint,he is NOT a monk

[-Sue-]

Dave only does 2 things wrong... everything he says & everything he does... be glad tos ee the back of him... I actually want him out more than I do Ben...

[Chels]

I think it's mint how he's an ex football hooligan haha! :D

[ElProximo]

But Dave claims he can cure cancer & other illnesses, he obviously cannot, so he is a FRAUD is he not??? :conf:

No.
It is obvious to him that he has done that and it can be done again. So it is not FRAUD.

I'm not sure why you are confused about this because you would constantly be using and applying this idea in your daily life. Applying to yourself and to others around you.
In your lifetime its probably going to happen that a Doctor will be convinced some kind of medication will cure something, prescribe it and its even possible that at some time along the process you and him will even become convinced it is working,
but,
later it will be found that it was not working at all and maybe even was doing more harm than good.
You will never describe this as FRAUD, never accuse the Doctor of FRAUD,
and,
for that matter you will never consider your own self as having been a FRAUD when you reported to the doctor that YOU thought it was working at the time and for a while.

So I don't know why you are confused over this David thing as if you don't know how to apply 'FRAUD' in this case or what the difference is between FRAUD and 'being incorrect' or 'mistaken'?

[monx]

Firstly let me pull you up on one pint,he is NOT a monk

You can pull me a pint anytime! lol :spin2:

[flamingGalah!]

No.
It is obvious to him that he has done that and it can be done again. So it is not FRAUD.


He hasn't done anything of the sort as it is IMPOSSIBLE to cure someone of throat cancer by simply placing your hands on their throat! So yes he IS a FRAUD... As it cannot be done in the first place it CANNOT be done again... :sleep:

As for the rest of your post, if you kindly re-write it so that it makes sense I may reply to that bit too... :xyxwave:

[chuff me dizzy]

No.
It is obvious to him that he has done that and it can be done again. So it is not FRAUD.

I'm not sure why you are confused about this because you would constantly be using and applying this idea in your daily life. Applying to yourself and to others around you.
In your lifetime its probably going to happen that a Doctor will be convinced some kind of medication will cure something, prescribe it and its even possible that at some time along the process you and him will even become convinced it is working,
but,
later it will be found that it was not working at all and maybe even was doing more harm than good.
You will never describe this as FRAUD, never accuse the Doctor of FRAUD,
and,
for that matter you will never consider your own self as having been a FRAUD when you reported to the doctor that YOU thought it was working at the time and for a while.

So I don't know why you are confused over this David thing as if you don't know how to apply 'FRAUD' in this case or what the difference is between FRAUD and 'being incorrect' or 'mistaken'?
Utter,total 100% BS

[crit]

No.
It is obvious to him that he has done that and it can be done again. So it is not FRAUD.

I'm not sure why you are confused about this because you would constantly be using and applying this idea in your daily life. Applying to yourself and to others around you.
In your lifetime its probably going to happen that a Doctor will be convinced some kind of medication will cure something, prescribe it and its even possible that at some time along the process you and him will even become convinced it is working,
but,
later it will be found that it was not working at all and maybe even was doing more harm than good.
You will never describe this as FRAUD, never accuse the Doctor of FRAUD,
and,
for that matter you will never consider your own self as having been a FRAUD when you reported to the doctor that YOU thought it was working at the time and for a while.

So I don't know why you are confused over this David thing as if you don't know how to apply 'FRAUD' in this case or what the difference is between FRAUD and 'being incorrect' or 'mistaken'?

Id love to respond to this but youre not really very coherent. Purposely I suspect as you really cant defend the indefensible so youve just resorted to posting utter drivel.

[fingers]

Are these the actions of a SANE grown up man?

http://www.channel4.com/bigbrother/video/2010/Jul/13/dave-and-steve-in-hysterics/play.c4

[fingers]

Yes.
This is what I tried to explain to you earlier. You really don't need to rub your own face in it.

Its important to identify problems first before you can solve them.

Just because HE believes his own bullsh!t doesn't make him any less of a charlatan, maybe imbecile describes him better?

[ElProximo]

Just because HE believes his own bullsh!t doesn't make him any less of a charlatan, maybe imbecile describes him better?

Yes it does make him less of a 'Charlatan' and you can see this idea constantly in Courts of Law.
IF you actually believe some bull**** you won't be charged with fraud or misrepresentation etc.

IF simply being 'wrong' made someone a fraud then every pharmaceutical company, every doctor and every hospital would be confirmed 'frauds' and being charged with 'fraud'.
But they are not.
Because (for example) at the time, Doctor Jones did sincerely believe that prescribing boloxifiian tablets would lend cure to conligers syndrome,
and,
it is 'beside the point' that Dr. Jones got confused over what he was reading in his journal and had a wrong idea about how this worked.
He is not a 'fraud' or 'charlatan'.

btw.. this is also why mentally insane people who believe they are Prince Henry are NOT considered to be 'liars' or 'defrauding' or ever accused of identify theft.
It is simply because they believe they are Prince Henry YOU do not call them frauds.
Now 'intellectual hypocrite' would be an interesting name we could discuss here don't you think?

[fingers]

OMG you sound just like Peter Plonker but making less sense, if that is possible!

[chuff me dizzy]

Dick going from hm8 to hm8 telling them how much he loves them :yuk::mad:

[fingers]

Dick going from hm8 to hm8 telling them how much he loves them :yuk::mad:

His wheezing gives the game away, he wheezes when he's lying!

[BB_Eye]

IF simply being 'wrong' made someone a fraud then every pharmaceutical company, every doctor and every hospital would be confirmed 'frauds' and being charged with 'fraud'.

But they are not.
Because (for example) at the time, Doctor Jones did sincerely believe that prescribing boloxifiian tablets would lend cure to conligers syndrome,
and,
it is 'beside the point' that Dr. Jones got confused over what he was reading in his journal and had a wrong idea about how this worked.
He is not a 'fraud' or 'charlatan'.

btw.. this is also why mentally insane people who believe they are Prince Henry are NOT considered to be 'liars' or 'defrauding' or ever accused of identify theft.
It is simply because they believe they are Prince Henry YOU do not call them frauds.
Now 'intellectual hypocrite' would be an interesting name we could discuss here don't you think?

Jesus Christ... get a ****ing life. :sleep:

[flamingGalah!]

Yes it does make him less of a 'Charlatan' and you can see this idea constantly in Courts of Law.
IF you actually believe some bull**** you won't be charged with fraud or misrepresentation etc.

IF simply being 'wrong' made someone a fraud then every pharmaceutical company, every doctor and every hospital would be confirmed 'frauds' and being charged with 'fraud'.
But they are not.
Because (for example) at the time, Doctor Jones did sincerely believe that prescribing boloxifiian tablets would lend cure to conligers syndrome,
and,
it is 'beside the point' that Dr. Jones got confused over what he was reading in his journal and had a wrong idea about how this worked.
He is not a 'fraud' or 'charlatan'.

btw.. this is also why mentally insane people who believe they are Prince Henry are NOT considered to be 'liars' or 'defrauding' or ever accused of identify theft.
It is simply because they believe they are Prince Henry YOU do not call them frauds.
Now 'intellectual hypocrite' would be an interesting name we could discuss here don't you think?

I couldn't understand a bloody word of any of that either... :conf:

When you can write something that makes any sort of sense come back & try to prove your point...

[ElProximo]

I couldn't understand a bloody word of any of that either... :conf:

When you can write something that makes any sort of sense come back & try to prove your point...

What I wrote makes perfect sense. It is a step-by-step explanation. IF you have problems understanding any of that then its you.
You are the problem.
That is damn sad you don't understand simple ethics and easy-to-see examples of right and wrong.

[flamingGalah!]

What I wrote makes perfect sense. It is a step-by-step explanation. IF you have problems understanding any of that then its you.
You are the problem.
That is damn sad you don't understand simple ethics and easy-to-see examples of right and wrong.

Obviously not just me, as others also said they could not understand a word you were going on about... :xyxwave:

How am I the problem that you cannot make any sense??? :conf:

It's a damn shame you cannot see that Dave is a fake, taking advantage of the sick & vulnerable in claiming he can cure them of their ills... :nono:

[fingers]

There are none so blind as those who will not see!

[ElProximo]

Obviously not just me, as others also said they could not understand a word you were going on about... :xyxwave:

How am I the problem that you cannot make any sense??? :conf:

It's a damn shame you cannot see that Dave is a fake, taking advantage of the sick & vulnerable in claiming he can cure them of their ills... :nono:

Nope.
Its you.
You and about 3 others here who have some kind of real problem comprehending basics they themselves actually DO apply in other areas of their life yet become intellectual hypocrites lost and confused in some moral relativity.
Its 'cognitive dissonance'.
The actual problem is in you receiving and processing the information and chopping it up into nonsense so it won't offend your 'emotional' and 'political' opinion.

btw.. people like you are the most easy to take advantage of when a real fraud comes along. A good con artist would see you as a perfect meal.

[flamingGalah!]

Nope.
Its you.
You and about 3 others here who have some kind of real problem comprehending basics they themselves actually DO apply in other areas of their life yet become intellectual hypocrites lost and confused in some moral relativity.
Its 'cognitive dissonance'.
The actual problem is in you receiving and processing the information and chopping it up into nonsense so it won't offend your 'emotional' and 'political' opinion.

btw.. people like you are the most easy to take advantage of when a real fraud comes along. A good con artist would see you as a perfect meal.

No sorry, wrong :xyxwave:

You made no sense... :sleep:

[fingers]

No sorry, wrong :xyxwave:

You made no sense... :sleep:

Again!! lol:dance::joker:

[ElProximo]

Why don't the two of you attempt to identify what exactly you find confusing?
Really 'step through' the specific place where you are having trouble?
Then I can carefully help you work through it.
No?
I didn't think so.