Should a married man, with 8 kids act like that with a young woman - on TV?

[Highlander]

Steve should be ashamed of himself, great example to his kids eh! Also, how that makes his wife feel? What a dirty old git.

[Niamh.]

8 kids by how many different women? maybe that is why....................

[Highlander]

8 kids by how many different women? maybe that is why....................

Not all by his current wife then?

[fingers]

He's such a cringeworthy creep!

[stoney]

just cos we are old married men does not mean we are dead

If your partner trust you its ok to have a laugh and even flirt a little bitty with someone else.

As my wife says...." I'm allowed to window shop as long as I dont get my wallet out my pocket"

[Mr XcX]

Shameful and FAKE!!!!

[yousoboo!]

especially when Steve started trying to turn on keeley with talk of his vibrating leg.

[cell]

I would rather a bit of cringe then a bore fest. It's his issue to deal with the wife when he gets home, his issue, not mine. At least it gives something to talk about, I think it's kinda funny actually.

[Niamh.]

Not all by his current wife then?

no, one of the HMs asked him and he said no but I can't remember how many different mothers there are

[Mystic Mock]

no, one of the HMs asked him and he said no but I can't remember how many different mothers there are

i think it was two wifes he had before his wife now.

[CaraRawr]

Meh, tbh.

[Niamh.]

i think it was two wifes he had before his wife now.

so 3 wives altogether? hhhmmmmm, I think we're getting a taster of why then!

[Mac Hiavellian]

just cos we are old married men does not mean we are dead

If your partner trust you its ok to have a laugh and even flirt a little bitty with someone else.

As my wife says...." I'm allowed to window shop as long as I dont get my wallet out my pocket"

Lol.

It should be okay for Steve's wife provided it doesn't turn in to a Marc Bannerman/Cerys Matthews situation. It's just a bit different if his kids are watching

[oddballmisfitsFTW]

he does it for his wife, that's why he looks at camera

she at home flicking her bean :joker:

[biggestbrother]

He's creepy and pervy.

I'd vomit if he tuched me.

[James]

I've deleted some posts here. It goes too far sometimes.

[stoney]

sorry james

[Natalie.]

He shouldn't

[Fuzzylogic]

It's **** all to do with us, who are we to judge.

The only people who this should matter to is his wife and kids.

[InOne]

It's **** all to do with us, who are we to judge.

The only people who this should matter to is his wife and kids.

Erm, he is on national tv. It has everything to do with us.

[yousoboo!]

I've always loved how the BB hate figure changes every week.

[Mac Hiavellian]

I've always loved how the BB hate figure changes every week.

Every minute, more like

[Beso]

Hasn't this been discussed to death already?..merge the ****ing threads james.

[Barbie]

It not bad when he is just attracted to her, you cant just switch that off when you get married i presume. But he is almost literally drooling over her, which is wrong.

[flamingGalah!]

It was quite creepy & very cringy...

[Angus]

Steve should be ashamed of himself, great example to his kids eh! Also, how that makes his wife feel? What a dirty old git.

Let's turn that round - "should a 31 year old intelligent, attractive woman persistently drape herself all over a married father of eight, overtly flirting with him, and making innuendos, knowing full well his wife and kids are probably watching?" What a shameless little slapper.:whistle:

[Zippy]

The 8 kids bit should give you a clue.

He's a randy sod.

[Beso]

The 8 kids bit should give you a clue.

He's a randy sod.

or catholic.

[ElProximo]

Let's turn that round - "should a 31 year old intelligent, attractive woman persistently drape herself all over a married father of eight, overtly flirting with him, and making innuendos, knowing full well his wife and kids are probably watching?" What a shameless little slapper.:whistle:

This exactly.

My thoughts added are:
- If Steve were a 41 year old sexy fashionable club promoter with great hair and abs then there would be ZERO discussion or comment about 'perv' and certainly not edited to maximum awkwardness.

- A number of Steve's critics made it very clear that if a male HM wanted to have sex with another male HM this was something 'off-limits' for any criticism or judgment since it was simply their own personal sexual orientation.
OK.
So I'd just ask they apply the same standards here. Even IF Steve has sex with Keeley tomorrow - that is HIS sexuality he was born with and his orientation and lifestyle. You ought not judge him, discriminate against him and certainly not call him derogatory names.
Agreed?

[Talulabelle]

just cos we are old married men does not mean we are dead

If your partner trust you its ok to have a laugh and even flirt a little bitty with someone else.

As my wife says...." I'm allowed to window shop as long as I dont get my wallet out my pocket"

I doubt she'd be happy if you went into the shop, climbed onto the window display and started fondling the goods tho.

:nono:

[Talulabelle]

Omg that wagging finger looks really rude! :shocked:

[Hero1]

Oh goodness I waited to reply on this post ages ago but I picked up a banned for awhile LOL

Anyway, is it alright for a married man to flirt, it is alright, but it must be highly humiliating for a wife who has stuck by a cripple with no legs, to see her hubby flirt with a hot young blonde and talk about his false likes pumping and vibrating and saying it is not a vibrator, YUK!

Lets just hope Keelely does not have her BB goggles on, and moves swiftly away from Steve. It cannot be a nice feeling at all.

[chuff me dizzy]

Disgusting ,i hope his wife has his bags packed when he gets home, he has shown himself and her up (Mind you she looks like a Russian shot-putter so Keely must be like Miss World to him )

[Hero1]

There are little snippets on Steve that shows us if there are more like him in the army, no wonder are on a losing battle in Iraq and Afghanistan.

Funny how he told Ben he has no rights to talk about the war because he is a politician, DUDE, it is dodgy politicians that have warped minds and send sheeps who will jump off a bridge with no questions asked to war.

[bbfan1991]

Steve is so creepy and a waste of a housemate:mad:.

[jj43]

He is a man *****

[stonedape]

If he hadn't set himself up in the father role and went more for crazy flirty uncle at the beginning, I think we'd all accept it. He made his morally upstanding war hero bed, and now he must lie in it.

[troy4783]

no he should not

[ElProximo]

If he hadn't set himself up in the father role and went more for crazy flirty uncle at the beginning, I think we'd all accept it. He made his morally upstanding war hero bed, and now he must lie in it.

He didn't set himself up as 'father role' and never made any claim or acceptance of 'morally upstanding war hero' (whatever insulting thing you think that means),
and,
He is not much older than Keeley or Corin or a few others in there so 'Uncle' seems inappropriate.

btw.. I do agree that he DID find himself a sort of 'father figure' HM by a sort of default position,
but,
No, your idea that he somehow took this position as the father and moral leader and now is 'letting you down' is simply not the case here.

[BB_Eye]

This exactly.

My thoughts added are:
- If Steve were a 41 year old sexy fashionable club promoter with great hair and abs then there would be ZERO discussion or comment about 'perv' and certainly not edited to maximum awkwardness.

- A number of Steve's critics made it very clear that if a male HM wanted to have sex with another male HM this was something 'off-limits' for any criticism or judgment since it was simply their own personal sexual orientation.
OK.
So I'd just ask they apply the same standards here. Even IF Steve has sex with Keeley tomorrow - that is HIS sexuality he was born with and his orientation and lifestyle. You ought not judge him, discriminate against him and certainly not call him derogatory names.
Agreed?

No one stated this was off-limits. Don't try to derive double standards from this. I know how habitually eager you are to jump on any homophobic bandwagon.

Steve is married and has 8 children. Does that not mean anything to you?

[WOMBAI]

No one stated this was off-limits. Don't try to derive double standards from this. I know how habitually eager you are to jump on any homophobic bandwagon.

Steve is married and has 8 children. Does that not mean anything to you?

:sleep:

[rusticgal]

I disagree.... he really does not like Keeley... I think he is trying to show her up for what she is and that is a manipulator.He does not like the fact that she came straight in the house and pronounced herself as 'the baroness'... she is using her sexuality to create the misgivings that you guys are now portraying.
I have to take my view on what I have watched and what I percieve....but thats how I see it at the moment.I might be wrong but will willingly to hold my hands up if proved so...

[WOMBAI]

I disagree.... he really does not like Keeley... I think he is trying to show her up for what she is and that is a manipulator.He does not like the fact that she came straight in the house and pronounced herself as 'the baroness'... she is using her sexuality to create the misgivings that you guys are now portraying.
I have to take my view on what I have watched and what I percieve....but thats how I see it at the moment.I might be wrong but will willingly to hold my hands up if proved so...

I agree! I think people have been too quick to believe a guy like Steve is bound to fancy a woman like Keely - mixed together with a bit of 'who does he think he is, she is way out his league' attitude!

[chuff me dizzy]

I disagree.... he really does not like Keeley... I think he is trying to show her up for what she is and that is a manipulator.He does not like the fact that she came straight in the house and pronounced herself as 'the baroness'... she is using her sexuality to create the misgivings that you guys are now portraying.
I have to take my view on what I have watched and what I percieve....but thats how I see it at the moment.I might be wrong but will willingly to hold my hands up if proved so...

Do you think so ? she did make a beeline for him as did Rachel and Im not a bitch (well ok i am) but I can imagine he STINKS of sweat ,I have never seen him shower or put deodrant on ,and no one could fancy him with that black eye looking at them

[ElProximo]

No one stated this was off-limits. Don't try to derive double standards from this. I know how habitually eager you are to jump on any homophobic bandwagon.


Oh no.. don't be a hypocrite on this. The basic idea is that people are born with sexual desires and compulsions and they ought not be discriminated or criticized for them and even celebrated.
IF it were true that Steve's sexuality is to desire to have sex with as many different women as possible then that is.. 'who he is' and it is not a 'choice'!
and,
You have no right to criticize this by your own standards and actually you ought to celebrate it and encourage him to be proud of his sexual desires!


Steve is married and has 8 children. Does that not mean anything to you?

It doesn't matter what it means to me or you.
When I said that I thought it was immoral for 2 men to marry you made it clear that by YOUR STANDARDS that was neither here nor there and I ought not put 'my morality' on others,
so,
in this case, be consistent. IF Steve wants to have sex with multiple partners besides his wife then who are YOU to judge him?
Just because YOU decided that is immoral for yourself doesn't mean its immoral for him.
Its just 'his lifestyle' and who are you to enforce your moral standards on him?

[chuff me dizzy]

FFS bible basher here

[lynette]

I've deleted some posts here. It goes too far sometimes.

I think you missed deleting that one ^^ about bean flicking - UGH!:nono:

[lynette]

No, I don't think a married man with 8 kids should act like he does with a young woman - on TV.

I wonder what his (3rd ?) wife and 8 kids think of his behaviour? Although he may be like it outside the house too.....?

[Crimson Dynamo]

the very fact he is on bb is reason enough to doubt his credibility as mr upstanding

[Shasown]

Just because you are on a diet doesnt mean you cant look at the cakes in a cake shop now does it?

Its when you start fingering the icing you get into trouble.

[WOMBAI]

Just because you are on a diet doesnt mean you cant look at the cakes in a cake shop now does it?

Its when you start fingering the icing you get into trouble.

Quite! :hugesmile:

[charmingmissc]

no

[WOMBAI]

no

Maybe Josie should stop letching after JJ then! She wants in his pants and he isn't about to let her! :hugesmile: Shame on the little hussy!

[Omah]

Steve is patently a incorrigible lecher, but Keeley put herself in his lap .....

[oddballmisfitsFTW]

Steve is patently a incorrigible lecher, but Keeley put herself in his lap .....

so did Rachel

and both Keeley and Rachel cuddle with all the HMs Ben, Mario etc

all the HMs are cuddly this year, its not just Keeley and Steve
even Ben and Dave cuddle :joker:

[Omah]

so did Rachel

and both Keeley and Rachel cuddle with all the HMs Ben, Mario etc

all the HMs are cuddly this year, its not just Keeley and Steve
even Ben and Dave cuddle :joker:

Nobody cuddled Steve before Keeley - he was Mr Invisible - then, within the space of a couple of hours, he went from kissing Keeley to threatening to "******* with her head" (or wtte) ..... that "nice" Poppa Steve "The Baron" suddenly became Mr Nasty Piece Of Work after a visit to the Diary Room ..... :eek:

[Eye_Spy]

another mirage of a 'hero' being dismantled. he cannot keep putting on an act forever.

[starry]

But what about the way women act to him in there? We've seen Keeley, Rachel and Laura all want attention from him.

[WOMBAI]

Steve is patently a incorrigible lecher, but Keeley put herself in his lap .....

He is patently not! You just don't like older, disabled men on the show and saying anything to get him out!

[AquaShots]

He is patently not! You just don't like older, disabled men on the show and saying anything to get him out!

Talk about pigeon holing! :shocked:

It's NOTHING to do with not liking disabled men, it's his nature that is disliked!

[WOMBAI]

Talk about pigeon holing! :shocked:

It's NOTHING to do with not liking disabled men, it's his nature that is disliked!

Yes it is - kids don't like the older ones, especially when they are disabled - and, of course, they won't admit it, but it is obvious! There are far worse than Steve in there - and the hate for him is way over the top - unfortunately, what he is has everything to do with it!

[Omah]

He is patently not! You just don't like older, disabled men on the show and saying anything to get him out!

You cannot possibly know that accusation to be true or not ..... ;)

[Omah]

Yes it is - kids don't like the older ones, especially when they are disabled - and, of course, they won't admit it, but it is obvious! There are far worse than Steve in there - and the hate for him is way over the top - unfortunately, what he is has everything to do with it!

Are you calling me a "kid" ?

:conf:

[AquaShots]

Yes it is - kids don't like the older ones, especially when they are disabled - and, of course, they won't admit it, but it is obvious! There are far worse than Steve in there - and the hate for him is way over the top - unfortunately, what he is has everything to do with it!

I strongly disagree. I dislike him cos he is boring, nasty and and seems to get rewarded for contributing very little.

[smudgie]

I think he acts with total disprespect for his family. But perhaps he has different standards to me.

[Cordelia]

I think Steve should be ashamed of himself. If i was his child i'd be disapointed!

[WOMBAI]

I think Steve should be ashamed of himself. If i was his child i'd be disapointed!

How ridiculous! The guy has done nothing to be ashamed of - what is wrong with you people! Can't older, disabled, married men have fun too!

Keeley liked Steve, all the girls like Steve - they wouldn't if they thought he was a 'dirtly old man' - all this nonsense is in the head's of those determined to 'hate' him because they find his presence in the the house unsavoury and boring! :nono:

[stoney]

so should they not put anyone in that is married or has a partner outside:conf:

Steve is trying to have a laugh and some fun:dance:

Is he the only one NOT allowed to:conf:

[AquaShots]

How ridiculous! The guy has done nothing to be ashamed of - what is wrong with you people! Can't older, disabled, married men have fun too! :nono:

Get of your high horse already, it is you who is boring now! It is NOTHING to do with him being disabled. You are showing that is all you see when you look at him!:nono:

[WOMBAI]

Get of your high horse already, it is you who is boring now! It is NOTHING to do with him being disabled. You are showing that is all you see when you look at him!:nono:

Rubbish! It has everything to be with him being disabled - pretty obvious by the many comments and pathetic 'jokes' about him! His disability, together with his age and the way he looks - is what a lot of the 'kids' see and cannot see past! The constant hate for him when he has done nothing to deserve it is what is really BORING!

[AquaShots]

It is NOTHING to do with him being disabled.:

OK let me rephrase, the reason I do not want to see him on my TV any more is because I do not like his behaviour; his unwarranted self righteousness attitude.

I am not bothered about his legs or his eye or his arm, these visual only things, are thrust into the eyes of the viewer for the shock value nothing more.

I don't like him, and he makes me cringe to such a degree that I am losing my interest in BB so much I find myself muting the volume when he is waffling on.

He is a kill-joy, and regardless of whether someone has legs, or arms or two heads, someone like that is a misery to watch on TV.

[bbfan1991]

Steve is so creepy:yuk::shocked:.

[WOMBAI]

OK let me rephrase, the reason I do not want to see him on my TV any more is because I do not like his behaviour; his unwarranted self righteousness attitude.

I am not bothered about his legs or his eye or his arm, these visual only things, are thrust into the eyes of the viewer for the shock value nothing more.

I don't like him, and he makes me cringe to such a degree that I am losing my interest in BB so much I find myself muting the volume when he is waffling on.

He is a kill-joy, and regardless of whether someone has legs, or arms or two heads, someone like that is a misery to watch on TV.

I don't find him at all self-righteous! How is he self-righteous? Older hms are usually less inclined to put up with some of the childish, selfish antics of some of the younger ones - but why single him out!

I guess we all see different things in the hms we like or don't like - depending on our age and taste - but I certainly don't find anything about Steve to be disgusting or cringeworthy!

[AquaShots]

I don't find him at all self-righteous! How is he self-righteous? Older hms are usually less inclined to put up with some of the childish, selfish antics of some of the younger ones - but why single him out!

I guess we all see different things in the hms we like or don't like - depending on our age and taste - but I certainly don't find anything about Steve to be disgusting or cringeworthy!

Well we do see different things. Females tend to be more offended by his behaviour.

I know his kind and people like that ALWAYS justify their behaviour, but I tell you what, I would not like to be his wife; I would be mortified by his grabing hands and creepy stares and I would also hate to be an object of his desire.

I am not wrong by saying I don't like the feeling he gives me when I see or him him, he turns my stomach and I'm not interested in his age, his disabilities, tattoos, shaved head, marital status etc.... I just don't like him and it ruins my pleasure having to put up with his presence in a show enjoy watching.

[rockchick]

wise up everyone if john james acted like steve it would be O GOOD OLD JJ DOING IT FOR THE BOYS i look at steve and i can still see elements of a young good looking solider bb have given him confidence and i hope he feels good about himself he surely must be self concious and have restricted movement when everyone is jumping and going mad i say go on steve recapture some of your youth if only for a whild

[stoney]

Well we do see different things. Females tend to be more offended by his behaviour.

I know his kind and people like that ALWAYS justify their behaviour, but I tell you what, I would not like to be his wife; I would be mortified by his grabing hands and creepy stares and I would also hate to be an object of his desire.

I am not wrong by saying I don't like the feeling he gives me when I see or him him, he turns my stomach and I'm not interested in his age, his disabilities, tattoos, shaved head, marital status etc.... I just don't like him and it ruins my pleasure having to put up with his presence in a show enjoy watching.

but not one female that is spending the time with him in the house has shown any offence at any way he has acted tho rather than teh carefully editted bits we get from the production team:spin:

[AquaShots]

but not one female that is spending the time with him in the house has shown any offence at any way he has acted tho rather than teh carefully editted bits we get from the production team:spin:

This is not a discussion about whether the other female house mates are bothered.
(They have already been called up on their agenda for getting pally with him.)
I am the viewer. I don't want to see it.

[stoney]

This is not a discussion about whether the other female house mates are bothered.
(They have already been called up on their agenda for getting pally with him.)
I am the viewer. I don't want to see it.

I dont want to see a showmance and a lot of bitchin but they give it to us every year.

Steve aint the worse inmate in there and is no more pervy than a lot of them.
What did you think of JJ(original)s antics in bed last night where he was pretending loudly in the darkenned bedroom that Josie was playing with him:conf:


does steve cuddle more or less than the other guys? yes from what i see cos he waits till the female intiates it which i would have thought would make it far more acceptable. I havent noticed him being particularly "grabby"

As for the cooking with his top off i had more of a problem with hairy nathan doing that tbh

His dress style is simply that his choice the same as the others. He told them in week 1 why he wears shorts a lot but tbh I cant remember or even really notice anymore:blush:

[AquaShots]

I dont want to see a showmance and a lot of bitchin but they give it to us every year.

Steve aint the worse inmate in there and is no more pervy than a lot of them.
What did you think of JJ(original)s antics in bed last night where he was pretending loudly in the darkenned bedroom that Josie was playing with him:conf:


does steve cuddle more or less than the other guys? yes from what i see cos he waits till the female intiates it which i would have thought would make it far more acceptable. I havent noticed him being particularly "grabby"

As for the cooking with his top off i had more of a problem with hairy nathan doing that tbh

His dress style is simply that his choice the same as the others. He told them in week 1 why he wears shorts a lot but tbh I cant remember or even really notice anymore:blush:

I agree about Nathan, but he is gone.
In any event, this is a thread about Steve.
I personally don't like him, it is not justified by comparing him to other less-irritating house-mates.
It's foolish to think that just cos I am responding to a thread about one house-mate that I think he is the worst house-mate, or other the house-mates behaviour is fine. I will just be happy when he leaves, and I will be quite happy when they are all up, or if he gets nominated cos I believe he thinks he walks on water (no pun intended).

[WOMBAI]

Well we do see different things. Females tend to be more offended by his behaviour.

I know his kind and people like that ALWAYS justify their behaviour, but I tell you what, I would not like to be his wife; I would be mortified by his grabing hands and creepy stares and I would also hate to be an object of his desire.

I am not wrong by saying I don't like the feeling he gives me when I see or him him, he turns my stomach and I'm not interested in his age, his disabilities, tattoos, shaved head, marital status etc.... I just don't like him and it ruins my pleasure having to put up with his presence in a show enjoy watching.

I am female, and a feminist at that, but I see nothing wrong with Steve's behaviour - and neither did his wife!

I think sub-consciously a lot of things like his looks, tatoos, shaved head, age, disability etc can affect the way someone views him - even if they don't acknowledge that! Your strong anti feelings towards him are simply not justified by anything he has acutally done - which would suggest other factors are involved!

Also when you said 'you know his kind' - suggests you have a bias against him and the type of person you think he is - which has to be affected by the way he looks, in my opinion!

[AquaShots]

I am female, and a feminist at that, but I see nothing wrong with Steve's behaviour - and neither did his wife!

I think sub-consciously a lot of things like his looks, tatoos, shaved head, age, disability etc can affect the way someone views him - even if they don't acknowledge that! Your strong anti feelings towards him are simply not justified by anything he has acutally done - which would suggest other factors are involved!

Also when you said 'you know his kind' - suggests you have a bias against him and the type of person you think he is - which has to be affected by the way he looks, in my opinion!

Bla bla bla :sleep:... you spout a lot of dribble.

I am entitled to my opinion.
And right now you are a close second to Steve!
I have given more than enough reasons why I don't like him but it is clear as the over-reaction to everything I say that you disagree, so why don't you put a sock in it, and put a lid on your do-gooder attitude and agree to disagree.

You are getting way to worked up about all this, is he your husband? No!

So open a can of shut the **** up and crawl back under your rock already!

[WOMBAI]

Bla bla bla :sleep:... you spout a lot of dribble.

I am entitled to my opinion.
And right now you are a close second to Steve!
I have given more than enough reasons why I don't like him but it is clear as the over-reaction to everything I say that you disagree, so why don't you put a sock in it, and put a lid on your do-gooder attitude and agree to disagree.

You are getting way to worked up about all this, is he your husband? No!

So open a can of shut the **** up and crawl back under your rock already!

You are the drama queen here dear, not me! You just wrote the biggest load of drivel (not dribble) on this thread - he is not your husband, or boyfriend or whatever ex he reminds you of! Do one! :joker:

[AquaShots]

You are the drama queen here dear, not me! You just wrote the biggest load of drivel (not dribble) on this thread - he is not your husband, or boyfriend or whatever ex he reminds you of! Do one! :joker:

Behave yourself.

[stoney]

Behave yourself.

what is "his kind":conf:

[AquaShots]

My point was targeting his personality and moving away from the all apparent injuries which 'some' people are obsessed are the only reason why he could be disliked.

His kind: typical creep who can always justify their actions as being a naughty boy.