wow, her odds shortening again...

[Tamtam]

Love or hate her (and I get that she is hated by people who don't get her and have the emotional depth of a puddle) the fact that she survived being over exposed in a harsh situation recently as bookies fave is surprising to me. the fact that her odds are now shortening is amazing! You go girl!

http://www.oddschecker.com/specials/tv/big-brother/winner

other interesting changes to me are also Ben's overtaking JJ again and Andrews rise (yay).

[DrunkerThanMoses]

Rather her win then Ben.

Suprised Mario is 5th, useually someone who is up for eviction there odds go down, while his has gone up :)

[Kazanne]

I like Josie,lets hope she dumps the JJ growth that is attatched to her

[MrGaryy]

I still can;t see her winning. Ben has a better chance.

[Kazanne]

I think ben will leave

[DrunkerThanMoses]

I think ben will leave

No he wont, hes in there to get "famous", he must not watch the show to know that he will be fmaous for about 10 mins.

[arsenalforever]

I think ben will leave

nah he won't he's in it to win
and at the moemnt he has a great chance

[Shiner]

I think Josie is BB's new favorite to win now. Despite being central to all the inharmonious situations she get's a very favorable edit.

[BigBrotherfan4ever]

I wouldn't mind either Josie or Ben winning they are both my favorites at the minute, i would also love to see Rachel in the final as well, i've really taking to her as well.

[Tamtam]

I think Josie is BB's new favorite to win now. Despite being central to all the inharmonious situations she get's a very favorable edit.

Really? You honestly think this? She has been over exposed and been through days of harshness in my opinion in which most of the argument that led to her acting like she did was cut out... hardly a kind edit?

As far as I can see it, she survived despite a harsh story and is now on the back burner again for a while. Not many would have stayed fave after her trial, look at how Corin crashed for instance... The fact that she did is amazing and very telling.

[erichardse10]

Josie, JJ or Ben will win!

[stoney]

easily the best girl in there, and if we get rid of the horrid Caoimhe who sucks thew joy and fun out of everyone, and also the most fun 3 dimensional character too.

She is the most entertaining character by far in both fun times and on teh odd occasion a wee tiny bitty bitchy and real:spin:

[BB_Eye]

Terrible thread

Go back to your main account, OP.

[Tamtam]

Terrible thread

Go back to your main account, OP.

I am just going to put you on ignore I think. You obviously have nothing to add that at all positive on any thread I have seen you in.

Can someone help me with ignoring a poster please? I don't know these boards very well.

[Livia]

Love or hate her (and I get that she is hated by people who don't get her and have the emotional depth of a puddle) the fact that she survived being over exposed in a harsh situation recently as bookies fave is surprising to me. the fact that her odds are now shortening is amazing! You go girl!

http://www.oddschecker.com/specials/tv/big-brother/winner

other interesting changes to me are also Ben's overtaking JJ again and Andrews rise (yay).

What's not to get with Josie? She's not exactly a profound well of intellect and wit, is she. She's not exactly complex and compelling. She's just a bit thick, physically and mentally. I understand you like her, but condemning people who don't as having the emotional depth of a puddle is daft.

[Shiner]

Really? You honestly think this? She has been over exposed and been through days of harshness in my opinion in which most of the argument that led to her acting like she did was cut out... hardly a kind edit?

As far as I can see it, she survived despite a harsh story and is now on the back burner again for a while. Not many would have stayed fave after her trial, look at how Corin crashed for instance... The fact that she did is amazing and very telling.

Sounds like you agree with me. :conf:
She has openly lied, bitched, manipulated, stirred and even did a crazy and still came out of it smelling of roses.... because of the showmance.

[Tamtam]

What's not to get with Josie? She's not exactly a profound well of intellect and wit, is she. She's not exactly complex and compelling. She's just a bit thick, physically and mentally. I understand you like her, but condemning people who don't as having the emotional depth of a puddle is daft.

This reply shows me that you obviously are one of the people that I talked about in my first post. I can't tell you how to 'get her', you either do or you don't. You obviously just don't, and thats fine. :)

[Tamtam]

Sounds like you agree with me. :conf:
She has openly lied, bitched, manipulated, stirred and even did a crazy and still came out of it smelling of roses.... because of the showmance.

hehe no, I don't agree with you at all.

People obviously emotionally connect with Josie and some obviously looked deeper into the reasons why things happened the way they did then others. I guess others didnt condemn her because they related to her situation and understood her lack of self confidence and vulnerability (hence her over defending herself).

Your point was that she is a fave because of a kind edit, mine was that she is fave despite a harsh one.

[Livia]

This reply shows me that you obviously are one of the people that I talked about in my first post. I can't tell you how to 'get her', you either do or you don't. You obviously just don't, and thats fine. :)

I get her just fine. She's a large, under-educated girl from Bristol. She's never had much male attention and now she's revelling in it and making a bit of an ass of herself.

I don't care that you like Josie, I would encourage people to follow who they want to, but accusing people who disagree with you of lacking in emotional intelligence say SO much more about you than it does about the people you are accusing.

[erchie]

I think ben will leave

whoo-hoo !

heres hoping !

[Tamtam]

I get her just fine. She's a large, under-educated girl from Bristol. She's never had much male attention and now she's revelling in it and making a bit of an ass of herself.

I don't care that you like Josie, I would encourage people to follow who they want to, but accusing people who disagree with you of lacking in emotional intelligence say SO much more about you than it does about the people you are accusing.

So defensive... relax, it's just a silly forum to a game show, no need to be so thin skinned over every little perceived 'insult'. If you don't like what I say, just ignore me, it's fine :)

I know you think you get her, but everytime you post you just show me that you don't tbh, but like I say thats also fine :)

(I see you have an ignore list already as a way of dealing with people, can you tell me how to do that here please?)

[Shiner]

hehe no, I don't agree with you at all.

People obviously emotionally connect with Josie and some obviously looked deeper into the reasons why things happened the way they did then others. I guess others didnt condemn her because they related to her situation and understood her lack of self confidence and vulnerability (hence her over defending herself).

Your point was that she is a fave because of a kind edit, mine was that she is fave despite a harsh one.

Then we do agree, it's just that you have applied a positive slant to it because you are a bigger fan. We both agree that she has been edited and we both agree that she has come out of in a good light. However my belief is that it is BB's intention for this to happen this way and it is your belief that because of her obvious greatness that she has beaten the edit. :)

[arsenalforever]

whoo-hoo !

heres hoping !

watch as the show goes down the ****ter

[arsenalforever]

hehe no, I don't agree with you at all.

People obviously emotionally connect with Josie and some obviously looked deeper into the reasons why things happened the way they did then others. I guess others didnt condemn her because they related to her situation and understood her lack of self confidence and vulnerability (hence her over defending herself).

Your point was that she is a fave because of a kind edit, mine was that she is fave despite a harsh one.

her and JJ are BB's golden couple and they have been given very kind Edits
so in no way will they show them in a bad light

[stoney]

its weird.

they both get the same sort of edits and i really like Josie while I totally despise that cowardly JJ

[Tamtam]

watch as the show goes down the ****ter

I think that used to be true, but Ben hasnt done anything really for a couple of weeks though... I am not sure what losing him at this point would really cost the show.

[arsenalforever]

I think that used to be true, but Ben hasnt done anything really for a couple of weeks though... I am not sure what losing him at this point would really cost the show.

disagree
he's the only hm for me that makes it worth watching
better then watching the horible JJJ romance thing

[Tamtam]

her and JJ are BB's golden couple and they have been given very kind Edits
so in no way will they show them in a bad light

just not true. How can you even pretend that when her odds took such a plunge? she obviously was shown in a bad light, but came through regardless.

[Tamtam]

disagree
he's the only hm for me that makes it worth watching
better then watching the horible JJJ romance thing

what has he done in the last week that makes him so great right now? I am open to be convinced.

[Shiner]

I think that used to be true, but Ben hasnt done anything really for a couple of weeks though... I am not sure what losing him at this point would really cost the show.

Actually, Ben has grown in the house - it just isn't shown in the HL (except for the odd bit of toff buffoonery) because of the JJ/Josie and now Steve/Keely story lines taking precedence.

[Beso]

This editing excuse is past it's sell by date, It's how people percieve the edit..People could judge josie for her sly looks that you see all the time on the h/l show as being coniving and nasty or jj attacking people all the time could be seen as nasty by some, and both probably have, it's just the good outways the bad with these two.

[arsenalforever]

Actually, Ben has grown in the house - it just isn't shown in the HL (except for the odd bit of toff buffoonery) because of the JJ/Josie and now Steve/Keely story lines taking precedence.

this

he clearly isn't a part of a storyline at the moemnt
but if you watch the Lf he still banging out brillant one liners

[Tamtam]

Actually, Ben has grown in the house - it just isn't shown in the HL (except for the odd bit of toff buffoonery) because of the JJ/Josie and now Steve/Keely story lines taking precedence.

How has he?

[Tamtam]

this

he clearly isn't a part of a storyline at the moemnt
but if you watch the Lf he still banging out brillant one liners

hehe I am sorry, but another forum user's post that happens to share your opinion isnt evidence. Don't just say 'this', tell me how he has grown. Better yet, link it :)

I do watch live feed by the way, and I havent seen this man you describe at all or heard him 'banging out' one liners. I am not anti Ben at all, I have enjoyed him, but he well past his zenith in my opinion and isnt even trying any more!

[Beso]

How has he?

He was first chosen by the girls to come out the lair, that wouldn't have happened a couple of weeks ago.

[arsenalforever]

hehe I am sorry, but another forum user's post that happens to shae your opinion isnt evidence. Don't just say 'this', tell me how he has grown. Better yet, link it :)

your fav is andrew which speaks volumes of your taste

you don't like Ben so i could show you a ton of examples and you still wouldn't agree:hugesmile:

[Tamtam]

your fav is andrew which speaks volumes of your taste

you don't like Ben so i could show you a ton of examples and you still wouldn't agree:hugesmile:

Try me, or I will have to assume you havent got anything to try me with :)

[Angus]

This reply shows me that you obviously are one of the people that I talked about in my first post. I can't tell you how to 'get her', you either do or you don't. You obviously just don't, and thats fine. :)

Oh we "get" her alright, there's not really much to "get" TBH. She's hardly got any complex layers to peel away - unfortunately what you see is pretty much what you get.:rolleyes: She is just your bog standard girl next door. Maybe she's seen as approachable and non-threatening by some, (or as a mother figure by others:wink:), but whatever the reason, people like people for different reasons, usually because they connect with them on some level. There is no need to go around insulting other FMs because they don't share your opinion on a fairly average HM.

[Tamtam]

He was first chosen by the girls to come out the lair, that wouldn't have happened a couple of weeks ago.

and that has made him a better HM to watch how?

[Tamtam]

Oh we "get" her alright, there's not really much to "get" TBH.

This again just shows me that you don't :)

oh and by the way, no one can 'insult' you unless you let them and choose to be insulted. So many over sensitive types around here hehe. Why has something a random poster on a random forum for a TV show cut you so much? I don't get it.

[stoney]

This editing excuse is past it's sell by date, It's how people percieve the edit..People could judge josie for her sly looks that you see all the time on the h/l show as being coniving and nasty or jj attacking people all the time could be seen as nasty by some, and both probably have, it's just the good outways the bad with these two.

I dont like JJ.

can you point out some of this "good" that is meant to outway all the nasty badness eminating from him:conf:

the nightly loo bitching stuff with that horrible nasty spiteful Caoimhe is turning the emotional cripple into a very angry wee boy who has placed his trust in totally the wrong person in Caoimhe:nono:

its also soooooooooo repetitive that it really bores me rigid:sleep:

[Shiner]

This again just shows me that you don't :)

Not everyone can relate to a grown woman who sucks her thumb and plays with a blankie.


How has he?

For the reasons you've been told.
Similarly the reasons that you say that some people don't get Josie applies to Ben. The Ben that you choose to see isn't what others necessarily see too... although they are right. :D

[Angus]

This again just shows me that you don't :)

oh and by the way, no one can 'insult' you unless you let them and choose to be insulted. So many over sensitive types around here hehe. Why has something a random poster on a random forum for a TV show cut you so much? I don't get it.

I was referring to your insulting another FM actually - telling them they have the emotional depth of a puddle. Generally people with no point to make and no argument to debate always resort to insults. It's the last refuge of a limited intellect and a barren mind. Since I now realise you are in fact such a person, I can see it is not your fault and it is now completely obvious why you like Josie. You recognise a kindred spirit.:wink:

If you wish to chuck a few insults my way, go for it:hugesmile: I am impervious to insults from strangers that I don't give a toss about:xyxwave:

[Shiner]

I dont like JJ.

can you point out some of this "good" that is meant to outway all the nasty badness eminating from him:conf:

the nightly loo bitching stuff with that horrible nasty spiteful Caoimhe is turning the emotional cripple into a very angry wee boy who has placed his trust in totally the wrong person in Caoimhe:nono:

its also soooooooooo repetitive that it really bores me rigid:sleep:

Me too. Keeva has latched on to Josie since Shabby left so is fully part of JJ's world now. I think one of JJ's traits when he interacts one to one with someone is that he reflects and embellishs upon what he is thinks they are saying to him. This works well with the less opinionated HMs but when he is involved with the likes of Keeva who has trust and respect issues we start to see a nasty side coming out. I don't think he means it per se he's just "in with a bad crowd". :)

[Tamtam]

I was referring to your insulting another FM actually

Your still going on about it? This seems to have effected you very deeply :(

[Tamtam]

Not everyone can relate to a grown woman who sucks her thumb and plays with a blankie

See? When I said not getting her emotionally this is what I meant. Your perception of her obviously stops right there and dosent look any deeper. Like I say though, thats fine, I just like to look at the people involved in this little game somehat deeper and try to understand situations for what they are :)

[bbfan1991]

I would be very happy if Jose won:), despite the awkwardness of the JJ situation I just want them to be friends, love her individual moments but I wouldn't mind Ben winning also;).

[Tamtam]

For the reasons you've been told.
Similarly the reasons that you say that some people don't get Josie applies to Ben. The Ben that you choose to see isn't what others necessarily see too... although they are right. :D

But thats just it... no one has told me any reasons... :(

I get Ben, I like Ben, he has made me laugh and I would like him in the final due to that. The last 1-2 weeks though have seen him wither, as soon as he stopped getting tons of solo tasks and the camera time they bring and it was the Ben show actually... Without all those tasks and airtime he has been just as boring as, say, Ife. More so in fact i we are honest. I would love Ben to be the man he once was in there, but he seems to have given up. :(

[Claymores]

He was first chosen by the girls to come out the lair, that wouldn't have happened a couple of weeks ago.

Chosen by Corin the Cretin as her sole decision in the DR - hardly a resounding point of pride to be held-up

[arsenalforever]

Chosen by Corin the Cretin as her sole decision in the DR - hardly a resounding point of pride to be held-up

oh clay are you on for a moan about ben ;)

[Tamtam]

Chosen by Corin the Cretin as her sole decision in the DR - hardly a resounding point of pride to be held-up

oh really? hehe didnt know that. ok, I guess that kind of blows the only 'reason' he has grown in the house over the past 2 weeks kind of out of the water ;)

[arsenalforever]

oh really? hehe didnt know that. ok, I guess that kind of blows the only 'reason' he has grown in the house over the past 2 weeks kind of out of the water ;)

:sleep: your really boring
you clearly won't like the day when ben wins will you

[Shiner]

See? When I said not getting her emotionally this is what I meant. Your perception of her obviously stops right there and dosent look any deeper. Like I say though, thats fine, I just like to look at the people involved in this little game somehat deeper and try to understand situations for what they are :)

I think it is very presumptuous of you to decide where my perception of a person ends based upon a couple of words typed on a forum. :nono:

Your ignorance has annoyed me and I now I feel the need to go away and think about that woman that had her face ripped off by a chimpanzee.

[Claymores]

oh clay are you on for a moan about ben ;)

Not especially - Corin the Cretin is my main target of disaffection this week - as pointed-out above, the ridiculous queen that is Ben has disappeared into the wallpaper this week so is less irksome! :hugesmile:

[Tamtam]

oh clay are you on for a moan about ben ;)

You didnt post any reasons or examples as to how Ben has grown in the past 1-2 weeks :(

[arsenalforever]

Not especially - Corin the Cretin is my main target of disaffection this week - as pointed-out above, the ridiculous queen that is Ben has disappeared into the wallpaper this week so is less irksome! :hugesmile:

:joker: yet is moving up the odds funny ain't it

[arsenalforever]

You didnt post any reasons or examples as to how Ben has grown in the past 1-2 weeks :(

nah not interested in talking to a Bjork fan:joker:

[Claymores]

:joker: yet is moving up the odds funny ain't it

Therein lies a lesson - the less he says/does, the better he fares in the gambling odds :hugesmile:

[Tamtam]

I think it is very presumptuous of you to decide where my perception of a person ends based upon a couple of words typed on a forum. :nono:

Your ignorance has annoyed me and I now I feel the need to go away and think about that woman that had her face ripped off by a chimpanzee.

I only comment on your perceptions as you present them. If you type superficial judgements on HMs I will assume you have superficial judgements, if you post deeper perceptions... etc :(

But yes, I thought that line from Josie was really funny as well :)

[Tamtam]

nah not interested in talking to a Bjork fan:joker:

coward and cop out :)

[arsenalforever]

Therein lies a lesson - the less he says/does, the better he fares in the gambling odds :hugesmile:

He's loved his witty remarks his bitchy side is a touch of the noel cowards
and his put downs are pure class

[arsenalforever]

coward and cop out :)

:joker: no trolly just smart

[Tamtam]

:sleep: your really boring
you clearly won't like the day when ben wins will you

you don't answer my direct replies to your points, but you post this? hehe ok, I am slowly beginning to understand the level this board lives at :)

[Claymores]

He's loved his witty remarks his bitchy side is a touch of the noel cowards
and his put downs are pure class

Noel Coward did end-up in prison, just like Ben's other hero Jeffrey Archer. In both those instances, perhaps those 'epic' figures were maybe missing their childhood experiences from Boarding School :joker::devil:

[Shiner]

I only comment on your perceptions as you present them. If you type superficial judgements on HMs I will assume you have superficial judgements, if you post deeper perceptions... etc :(

But yes, I thought that line from Josie was really funny as well :)

I mentioned her sucking her thumb. You call that a superficial judgement? That sort of behaviour from a grown woman speaks volumes, it's not up to me to fill in the gaps for the pedants out for an argument!

[Tamtam]

:joker: no trolly just smart

hehe yep, very smart to not get into it with me :)

[arsenalforever]

Noel Coward did end-up in prison, just like Ben's other hero Jeffrey Archer. In both those instances, perhaps those 'epic' figures were maybe missing their childhood experiences from Boarding School :joker::devil:

:joker: but yet he did write a Brief encounter once he wins thats all it be

[Tamtam]

I mentioned her sucking her thumb. You call that a superficial judgement? That sort of behaviour from a grown woman speaks volumes, it's not up to me to fill in the gaps for the pedants out for an argument!

Yes, it is exactly that. A superficial judgement. Honestly, judging a person on the fact they suck their thumb! How funny lol :D

[Tamtam]

nah not interested in talking to a Bjork fan:joker:

By the way, I saw the Roses in Manchester in '89 and was at Spike Island. Were you? :)

[Shiner]

Yes, it is exactly that. A superficial judgement. Honestly, judging a person on the fact they suck their thumb! How funny lol :D

You are a hypocrite and a bore. :xyxwave:

I like Björk though.

[Tamtam]

You are a hypocrite and a bore. :xyxwave:


Then leave my thread, no one invited you in :)

[arsenalforever]

By the way, I saw the Roses in Manchester in '89 and was at Spike Island. Were you? :)

yes i was :)

[Tamtam]

yes i was :)

Really? That makes you 35+?

[vesavius]

Love or hate her (and I get that she is hated by people who don't get her and have the emotional depth of a puddle) the fact that she survived being over exposed in a harsh situation recently as bookies fave is surprising to me. the fact that her odds are now shortening is amazing! You go girl!

http://www.oddschecker.com/specials/tv/big-brother/winner

other interesting changes to me are also Ben's overtaking JJ again and Andrews rise (yay).

I think she is doing brilliantly.

Josie for the final :dance:

[bbfan1991]

I think she is doing brilliantly.

Josie for the final :dance:

Agreed:D, glad you're back, missed you on here yesterday LOL.

[vesavius]

Agreed:D, glad you're back, missed you on here yesterday LOL.

haha thanks ;)

[Angus]

Your still going on about it? This seems to have effected you very deeply :(

That would be "affected".:rolleyes: And pot/kettle springs to mind:hugesmile:

[vesavius]

That would be "affected".:rolleyes:

Really Angus, your reduced to correcting people's grammar in an effort to put them down? Thats pretty weak :nono: