"What are you a size 18?"

[InOne]

:bored: Nice thing to say to a girl eh

[Jords]

Pmsl.

[fruit_cake]

insensitive prat

[30stone]

Was a bit harsh wasnt it lol

[Jords]

He was only asking, the way she was going on about it you would think she was 16/18, shes fine imo though.

[Livia]

I don't think he meant to be mean. She was the one who was moaning about her big belly and how much weight she'd put on in the house before Dave even said a word.

[Alpertinator]

See that's funny cos' say I was out in public and Jack said that to Jill and everyone I was out with kinda' went :shocked: ...I'd be like "What? That good or bad?"

I have numeric dyslexia or somethin'... numbers mean fuc- k all to me and I don't understand sizes and stuff. Can't remember dates and my shoe size and $hit... kinda' embarassin' actually. But yeah anyway I wouldn't know that was an offensive thing to say unless someone told me so.

[InOne]

That fat deluded twat can't say anything about Josie's weight.

[Jords]

He wasnt judging her!

[oddballmisfitsFTW]

they were just talking about weight and doin exercises, dave said his wife is size 14 then asked "what are you? 18? she said 16 but then said probably 18 now
it's not like he guessed size 24 or anything

Josie is the one with the issues, she is a total bitch

dave did ******* all wrong

GT FO Josie

[paper-cut-exit]

I thought a 40 year old man would have more sense than to enter a conversation with a woman about her weight. In my experience... that's a no go area imo! Far better to say a few vague words then get out of there asap!

[InOne]

Comparing her to his wife as well :bored:

[setanta]

they were just talking about weight and doin exercises, dave said his wife is size 14 then asked "what are you? 18? she said 16 but then said probably 18 now
it's not like he guessed size 24 or anything

Josie is the one with the issues, she is a total bitch

dave did ******* all wrong

GT FO Josie

I agree. She was just as involved in the conversation as he was and he was asking her if she wanted to do exercises with Caoimhe and himself, right?

She just threw a wobbler (no pun intended) because she was struggling with her own insecurities and the influx of new pretty girls within the house. It had f£ck all to do with what David said.

[fruit_cake]

Comparing her to his wife as well :bored:

i can't imagine anyone wanting to be a wife to that 'thing' how could anyone want to be with that.

[the-gaffer]

You gotta be fair to Dave, he doesn't seem like the most knowledgable when it comes to woman and she was the one doing the complaining, he was basically telling her his wife isn't some size 8 and she looks great, Josie is just feeling down because shes put on a bit of beef, shes taking it out on someone who mentions it even when she brought it up, everyone is the same, she was a bit harsh tho, well seen it was behind his back

[Lucy.]

Hmm I don't think he meant it bad, they were having a discussion, Josie just got offended because she's feeling a bit low cause of all the other girls in the house which you could see when she was talking about Keeley's ass.

[InOne]

i can't imagine anyone wanting to be a wife to that 'thing' how could anyone want to be with that.

Indeed, he is becoming more slimey by the day.

[InOne]

Hmm I don't think he meant it bad, they were having a discussion, Josie just got offended because she's feeling a bit low cause of all the other girls in the house which you could see when she was talking about Keeley's ass.

Still, he's like 40, you must know not to say things like that around girls at his age.

[Niamh.]

the golden rule is to say a size below what you actually think a girls size is

[WOMBAI]

That fat deluded twat can't say anything about Josie's weight.

Josie's fatter! Sick of her whining now!

[bansheewails]

Men listen carefully, dont mention weight (even if you are asked to be honest) or guess a womans age! Just a little tip! :devil:

[InOne]

Josie's fatter! Sick of her whining now!

You seemed to have switched from a feminist to a God lover. You didn't even really read the thread, just popped in. What is it about St Dave?

[Lucy.]

Maybe. But c'mon do you really think Dave has any idea about female clothes sizes? I doubt it. He's not likely to be able to effectively judge what size Josie is.

[oddballmisfitsFTW]

I thought a 40 year old man would have more sense than to enter a conversation with a woman about her weight. In my experience... that's a no go area imo! Far better to say a few vague words then get out of there asap!

if a man has conversation about weight and the woman gets offended that's her problem and her issues, especially if the guy is fat as well!

if a man or anyone insults a woman on weight that's out of order same as any insult

[vesavius]

Was a bit harsh wasnt it lol

well, if your saying that it must have been lol

[InOne]

Maybe. But c'mon do you really think Dave has any idea about female clothes sizes? I doubt it. He's not likely to be able to effectively judge what size Josie is.

Then he should have just got out of the convo, like a normal guy would.

[setanta]

Josie's fatter! Sick of her whining now!

Insecure woman looking for something to get the hump over, that's all.

[WOMBAI]

You seemed to have switched from a feminist to a God lover. You didn't even really read the thread, just popped in. What is it about St Dave?

Ha, ha - I'm no God lover, I just like Dave!

And Josie is well getting on my nerves. If her weight bothers her that much -then she should do something about it instead of boring us all with her constant insecurities!

[Lucy.]

Meh, if you think so.
I just don't think he meant it bad and if Josie is gonna get offended about it then that's due to her insecurities not by any fault of his.

[InOne]

Ha, ha - I'm no God lover, I just like Dave!

And Josie is well getting on my nerves. If her weight bothers her that much -then she should do something about it instead of boring us all with her constant insecurities!

She doesn't go on about it that much... Everyone has down days. Give her a break.

[Jords]

Josie should simply not keep bringing her weight up if she gets offended easily by it, nobody has ever spoke about it in the house from my knowledge, unless she starts it off.

[LBB11]

But if shes so worryed about her weight she should do something about it i was a 14 then i was silly with food for a while and went to a 6/8 but now im ok at a 12, as long as i eat properly.

[vesavius]

That fat deluded twat can't say anything about Josie's weight.

Apparently he can say exactly what he likes to who he likes and some here thinks the glory shines out of his arse.

Insensitive bastard imo. It's balatantly obvious that Josie has no self confidence and thinks she is crap, she dosent need it reinforcing 24/7 by people who are fat themselves and just want to bolster their own self esteem at her expense.

[InOne]

Apparently he can say exactly what he likes to who he likes and some here thinks the glory shines out of his arse.

Insensitive bastard imo. It's balatantly obvious that Josie has no self confidence and thinks she is crap, she dosent need it reinforcing 24/7 by people who are fat themselves and just want to bolster their own self esteem at her expense.

I noticed he started apologising at first, then pretty much took it bad. Yup, seems 'The Lord' has come to all these Dave fans.

[WOMBAI]

Apparently he can say exactly what he likes to who he likes and some here thinks the glory shines out of his arse.

Insensitive bastard imo. It's balatantly obvious that Josie has no self confidence and thinks she is crap, she dosent need it reinforcing 24/7 by people who are fat themselves and just want to bolster their own self esteem at her expense.

Her insecurities are her problem - perhaps she shouldn't have gone on the show if her self-esteem is so fragile!

[InOne]

Her insecurities are her problem - perhaps she shouldn't have gone on the show if her self-esteem is so fragile!

As I said before, she doesn't go on and on about them. Dave probably just thinks he is above women, as stated in the Bible...

[paper-cut-exit]

if a man has conversation about weight and the woman gets offended that's her problem and her issues, especially if the guy is fat as well!

Turned into his problem too tho didn't it, hence why i suggested he's better not even getting involved.


if a man or anyone insults a woman on weight that's out of order same as any insult

I didn't say otherwise.

[vesavius]

Her insecurities are her problem - perhaps she shouldn't have gone on the show if her self-esteem is so fragile!

what happened to make you so hard? :/

Are you even aware of what you type reads like?

[InOne]

what happened to make you so hard? :/

Are you even aware of what you type reads like?

I know, usually women are against this kind of thing.

[Patricia4]

Insecure woman looking for something to get the hump over, that's all.

I agree

[InOne]

But if shes so worryed about her weight she should do something about it i was a 14 then i was silly with food for a while and went to a 6/8 but now im ok at a 12, as long as i eat properly.

Yes she said she is, and she doesn't go on about it!!!

[*mazedsalv**]

First of all his wife is quite pretty (was on the phone on BBLB, suprised by what she looked like), it wasn't an insult... he ASKED, she blew it out of the blue, even she admitted she did.... how was he suppsoed to know, he said "You can come exercise with me and caoimhe" he wanted to help her out.

And i would have said 16 or 18, she's big hipped.

[InOne]

I agree

Can't form an opinion?

[vesavius]

Yes she said she is, and she doesn't go on about it!!!

I actually can't believe women are Josie's worst enemy around here when it comes to talking about her weight Inone... It's staggering tbh.

I never really believed that women are other women's most spiteful threat until I came here, not really anyhow.

The spiteful posts I see again and again of them just putting another woman down for her body shape and low self perception are just so sad... and then men are blamed lol

[MissKittyFantastico]

Her insecurities are her problem - perhaps she shouldn't have gone on the show if her self-esteem is so fragile!

Wow, god forbid a woman who doesn't love herself should actually be allowed to appear on a reality TV show eh?

[InOne]

I actually can't believe women are Josie's worst enemy around here when it comes to talking about her weight Inone... It's staggering tbh.

I never really believed that women are other women's most spiteful threat until I came here, not really anyhow.

The spiteful posts I see again and again of them just putting another woman down for her body shape and low self perception are just so sad... and then men are blamed lol

It is odd yeah, but god knows who is really behind the words lol

[Visage]

I didn't think it came across as nasty, some blokes are just dumb when it comes to women's size.

[Vicky.]

Some of the response in here are very insensitive.

Yes, Josie shouldnt be fishing for people to say she isnt fat (which i believe she does....why say you are then kick off when someone basically agrees) but I think its refreshing to see a woman who does not love herself on BB. Its quite rare.

To say she shouldnt go on, just because shes a bit insecure about her weight, is ridiculous really.

[setanta]

Wow, god forbid a woman who doesn't love herself should actually be allowed to appear on a reality TV show eh?

She was fishing for a reason to have a strop because she's been feeling insecure all day. It's not the first time it's happened. Tired of it.

[psychtracker]

C'mon folks...Josie's behaviour was simply indefensible, she was completely and unnecessarily nasty!

[paper-cut-exit]

Lets not forget it was Josie's time of the month too tho.

[setanta]

Lets not forget it was Josie's time of the month too tho.

Excuses excuses. She only said it when she realised that she'd gone overboard, that's all.

[vesavius]

She was fishing for a reason to have a strop because she's been feeling insecure all day. It's not the first time it's happened. Tired of it.

He said something insenstive, she got upset, she confronted him, he apologised. End of.

Completely valid and fair way of dealing with the situation.

[InOne]

Wow, god forbid a woman who doesn't love herself should actually be allowed to appear on a reality TV show eh?

I know, seems Josie damned if she does damned if she doesn't with these lot :bored:

[setanta]

He said something insenstive, she got upset, she confronted him, he apologised. End of.

Completely valid and fair way of dealing with the situation.

Nah, the valid way to resolve the situation would have been to talk to Dave in person, not throw a strop with the rest of her posse, talking complete shi%e too.

[paper-cut-exit]

Excuses excuses. She only said it when she realised that she'd gone overboard, that's all.

Maybe, maybe not.

[MissKittyFantastico]

She was fishing for a reason to have a strop because she's been feeling insecure all day. It's not the first time it's happened. Tired of it.

Yes and she apologised afterwards. God forbid a girl should have a bad day and get upset over a grown man having digs about her size when everyone knows she is sensitive to it. Plus she didn't say anything behind his back that she didn't to his face, so I don't really see the problem.

[setanta]

Maybe, maybe not.

Maybe just aware of the cameras again and trying to look good, as per usual. Smiling while nominating is a perfect example of how she continually attempts to pull the wool over the eyes of the viewers.

[vesavius]

Wow, god forbid a woman who doesn't love herself should actually be allowed to appear on a reality TV show eh?

Exactly.

If she was walking around thinking she was god's gift I would understand the hate, but to dislike someone because they dont think a lot of themselves...? Confusing. :conf:

[rusticgal]

I thought a 40 year old man would have more sense than to enter a conversation with a woman about her weight. In my experience... that's a no go area imo! Far better to say a few vague words then get out of there asap!

Yeah...I thought Dave was very insensitive there.Dont think he meant to be rude...but should have been a little more tactile.

[setanta]

Yes and she apologised afterwards. God forbid a girl should have a bad day and get upset over a grown man having digs about her size when everyone knows she is sensitive to it. Plus she didn't say anything behind his back that she didn't to his face, so I don't really see the problem.

She initiated the conversation though and Dave was answering back and trying to get her to exercise with him, that's all. And she related it all to her friends before going to Dave.... mature not.

And like I said, it's not the first time that she's been bulling for an argument or a strop.

[vesavius]

Nah, the valid way to resolve the situation would have been to talk to Dave in person, not throw a strop with the rest of her posse, talking complete shi%e too.

She did. Thats what i just said.

Jesus, she is allowed a short time to think things through and come to that point.

[oddballmisfitsFTW]

I actually can't believe women are Josie's worst enemy around here when it comes to talking about her weight Inone... It's staggering tbh.

I never really believed that women are other women's most spiteful threat until I came here, not really anyhow.

The spiteful posts I see again and again of them just putting another woman down for her body shape and low self perception are just so sad... and then men are blamed lol

I am male and I put her down cos she was a complete bitch about Dave

she is the one with the issue about her weight, he didn't call her any names, he was talking about his wife and doing exercises with Josie in house and innocently asked her dress size, which he actually guessed right
hate this BS about people should say someone size 18 is size 12 or somethin to make em feel good PC BOLLOCKS

josie was 100% wrong and dave did NOTHING bad at all

[setanta]

She did. Thats what i just said.

Jesus, she is allowed a short time to think things through and come to that point.

No she didn't: she decided to waffle to her friends first. That's not the way to deal with things, especially over such a stupid issue.

[MissKittyFantastico]

She initiated the conversation though and Dave was answering back and trying to get her to exercise with him, that's all. And she related it all to her friends before going to Dave.... mature not.

And like I said, it's not the first time that she's been bulling for an argument or a strop.

No she spoke to only Caoimhe, not her 'posse', or is she not allowed to talk to anyone about how she feels now when she's pissed off either like?

Josie doesn't look for arguments at all, but she will stand up for herself, she doesn't sit and bitch and say nothing like some others in there.

[vesavius]

No she didn't: she decided to waffle to her friends first. That's not the way to deal with things, especially over such a stupid issue.

So she didnt go and talk to him to his face? Is that what you are saying?

[oddballmisfitsFTW]

She did. Thats what i just said.

Jesus, she is allowed a short time to think things through and come to that point.

the only reason she went to dave was because she realised she had been a bitch so needed to smooth it over with dave for sake of the "viewers"

notice how she started by saying "you upset me dave" then after he went all gooey she said "ok maybe i blew outta proportion"

crafty gameplayin bitch she is

[setanta]

No she spoke to only Caoimhe, not her 'posse', or is she not allowed to talk to anyone about how she feels now when she's pissed off either like?

Josie doesn't look for arguments at all, but she will stand up for herself, she doesn't sit and bitch and say nothing like some others in there.

Eh, the crisps, John etc. She's always looking for something.

And she knows if she tells Caoimhe that girl will relay it to the rest of them.

[setanta]

the only reason she went to dave was because she realised she had been a bitch so needed to smooth it over with dave for sake of the "viewers"

notice how she started by saying "you upset me dave" then after he went all gooey she said "ok maybe i blew outta proportion"

crafty gameplayin bitch she is

Exactly. She knew she'd f£cked up so decided to try an repair the damage.

[vesavius]

the only reason she went to dave was because she realised she had been a bitch so needed to smooth it over with dave for sake of the "viewers"

notice how she started by saying "you upset me dave" then after he went all gooey she said "ok maybe i blew outta proportion"

crafty gameplayin bitch she is

So she is now wrong for accepting his apology and accepting her part in it?

:rolleyes::rolleyes:

[setanta]

So she didnt go and talk to him to his face? Is that what you are saying?

Not before she threw a wobbler over nothing. And the moment Dave spoke to her she knew she'd acted like a tit.

[MissKittyFantastico]

Eh, the crisps, John etc. She's always looking for something.

And she knows if she tells Caoimhe that girl will relay it to the rest of them.

Crispgate she was in the wrong yes, she and JJ bicker but that's because of the mixed up feelings between them and that's a whole other issue entirely.

Caoimhe is her closest friend in there after JJ so why should she not talk to her about how she's feeling. The girl can't do right for doing wrong in some people's eyes on here.

[psychtracker]

Let's all just agree she made a complete COW of herself and move on to the next topic :)

[oddballmisfitsFTW]

So she is now wrong for accepting his apology and accepting her part in it?

:rolleyes::rolleyes:

she should apologise to dave

she was wrong to bitch about him AND she was wrong to make dave feel bad when he did ******* all wrong

I would have told her to ******* off

[vesavius]

Not before she threw a wobbler over nothing. And the moment Dave spoke to her she knew she'd acted like a tit.

She spoke to a friend about it, blew off some steam, and then went to talk to Dave about it, alone.

While she was there she accepted his apology and accepted her part in it. What more do you want?

Jesus, how perfect are you?

[InOne]

Let's all just agree she made a complete COW of herself and move on to the next topic :)

Nah, we're not all as narrow minded as you :)

[vesavius]

Let's all just agree she made a complete COW of herself and move on to the next topic :)

shh and get back on your main account.

[setanta]

Crispgate she was in the wrong yes, she and JJ bicker but that's because of the mixed up feelings between them and that's a whole other issue entirely.

Caoimhe is her closest friend in there after JJ so why should she not talk to her about how she's feeling. The girl can't do right for doing wrong in some people's eyes on here.

She's a champion gameplayer and insecure, that's all, and she hates the fact that she may have lost control because of the new additions to the household. It's blatantly obvious.

[oddballmisfitsFTW]

Rebecca (Bex) BB9
Josie (Jose) BB11

2 cheeks of the same arse

and it's an arse full of nasty sh**

[MissKittyFantastico]

She's a champion gameplayer and insecure, that's all, and she hates the fact that she may have lost control because of the new additions to the household. It's blatantly obvious.

In your opinion.

[Smithy]

James the clique has voted and we have come to the conclusion, your wrong. so please sit down and be quiet.

[setanta]

In your opinion.

Constant thumb sucking, playing with her wig and envious of the comments other girls were getting during the task. It's perfectly clear what was going on and Dave was just an excuse for her to throw a wobbler.

[setanta]

James the clique has voted and we have come to the conclusion, your wrong. so please sit down and be quiet.

Lol, and the clique is always right, is it?

[psychtracker]

Nah, we're not all as narrow minded as you :)

You don't know me, so pls don't attack me. Thank you :)

[Jessica.]

Lol, and the clique is always right, is it?

We are.

[InOne]

You don't know me, so pls don't attack me. Thank you :)

Ok sweetie x :)

[setanta]

We are.

Well I'm glad you're finally all accepting that you are a clique, that's the main thing. Don't know what it has to do with this thread though, but fair enough.