MTV Rocks!?

[Simone.]

None of this music is rock.
It really irritates me, they've had Vampire Weekend, Plan B & Florence and the Machine on, it's seriously just not rock.

Just thought I'd mention it.

[Damaris]

Yeah i noticed this! Plan B is about as 'rock' as Pink is. :/

[BB_Eye]

Lol, music channels.

[Twilight]

MTV Rocks sucks, best music channel is scuzz, imo.

[MrGaryy]

They also had All Time Low on this morning pmsl.

[BB_Eye]

Sonic Youth and other alternative rock bands used to be a bit of a fixture on MTV in the 80's. That would be unthinkable now.

[InOne]

Vh2 used to be the best chan for me. But of course they replaced it with silly stuff like this chan. Even Scuzz and Kerrang have lost their touch.

[Chels]

I actually have this on now lol. Paramore's on atm.

[Chels]

Scuzz is the worst music channel around D: it's all that awful screaming sh*t, it has a cheap look about it as well. Kerrang is quality though.

[Stu]

It's good when they do the alternative 80's stuff on the odd night, but apart from that it sucks like all music channels suck. YouTube makes music video channels totally redundant.

Kerrang also used to be pretty reliable, but it's turned into the emo/scene channel. All Time Low and their ilk don't belong on rock channels. It's now effectively a pop rock channel.

Scuzz is Kerrang's unwashed cousin.

[Twilight]

Scuzz is the worst music channel around D: it's all that awful screaming sh*t, it has a cheap look about it as well. Kerrang is quality though.

screaming isn't really ****, imo.

[InOne]

I actually have this on now lol. Paramore's on atm.

Says it all lol

[MrGaryy]

It's good when they do the alternative 80's stuff on the odd night, but apart from that it sucks like all music channels suck. YouTube makes music video channels totally redundant.

Kerrang also used to be pretty reliable, but it's turned into the emo/scene channel. All Time Low and their ilk don't belong on rock channels. It's now effectively a pop rock channel.

Scuzz is Kerrang's unwashed cousin.

aye, I remember when Kerrang played actual rock music. Now it is, like you said, the emo/scene channel.

[lol]

MTV Rocks sucks, best music channel is scuzz, imo.

This.

Although Scuzz is turning into pussy stuff now. :/

[Chels]

screaming isn't really ****, imo.

It injures my ears :p

[Twilight]

aye, I remember when Kerrang played actual rock music. Now it is, like you said, the emo/scene channel.

Well i like that kinda music, so its a good channel imo :P

[Chels]

Says it all lol

Lmao, paramore are overrated as fck. Don't get the hype.

[lol]

Scuzz is the worst music channel around D: it's all that awful screaming sh*t, it has a cheap look about it as well. Kerrang is quality though.

Lmfao...Kerrang is a load of crap.
It plays the same stuff over and over again...Paramore...Fall Out Boy...All Time Low.

If I hear them stupid Weightless and Misery Business songs again I'll have to nuke them.

Scuzz is certainly not screaming anymore, it has normal metal/hard rock, such as Avenged Sevenfold.
Though it's losing its touch now, playing soft stuff like Lost Prophets and 30STM (I like them, but Scuzz is supposed to be Metal-type stuff)

[MrGaryy]

Well i like that kinda music, so its a good channel imo :P

Well have fun with that, I don't remember saying it wasn't.

[InOne]

Lmao, paramore are overrated as fck. Don't get the hype.

I don't get the hype for most bands these days lol

[Chels]

Lmfao...Kerrang is a load of crap.
It plays the same stuff over and over again...Paramore...Fall Out Boy...All Time Low.

If I hear them stupid Weightless and Misery Business songs again I'll have to nuke them.

Scuzz is certainly not screaming anymore, it has normal metal/hard rock, such as Avenged Sevenfold.
Though it's losing its touch now, playing soft stuff like Lost Prophets and 30STM (I like them, but Scuzz is supposed to be Metal-type stuff)

I like some of the stuff on Kerrang, like the Offspring and Muse and stuff.

Not into metal personally, but everyone has their own taste. 30stm and Lostprophets are quality imo.

[Chels]

I don't get the hype for most bands these days lol

We'll stick to Oasis ;)

[Jords]

I feel a little bit sick when I find myself wondering onto Scuzz and being deathened.
Although there was a screaming song on once I did like but couldnt remember what it was called, I want to download it D:

[lol]

I feel a little bit sick when I find myself wondering onto Scuzz and being deathened.
Although there was a screaming song on once I did like but couldnt remember what it was called, I want to download it D:

What was the music video about? I could help find it for you if you want.

[Twilight]

I feel a little bit sick when I find myself wondering onto Scuzz and being deathened.
Although there was a screaming song on once I did like but couldnt remember what it was called, I want to download it D:

I really don't understand how its deafening D:
do you know the lyrics? i might beable to help :)

[InOne]

We'll stick to Oasis ;)

Indeed :D

[Jords]

Nope cant remember lyrics, Ive only heard it the once a while back. The video had a lead singer whos quite a fat guy, and the screen sorts of flips into the really metal parts of the song.

[lol]

What colour was his skin?
If you mean flips as in a book, try My Curse by Killswitch Engage.
They're in a book which the pages are flicking in, and Howard (their singer) is kinda chubby I guess.

[Twilight]

Nope cant remember lyrics, Ive only heard it the once a while back. The video had a lead singer whos quite a fat guy, and the screen sorts of flips into the really metal parts of the song.

Mmm nahh i can't help you there :( was it like really heavy metal or just Post-hardcore?

[lol]

Also what did the lead singers hair look like, if you can remember?

[Jords]

What colour was his skin?
If you mean flips as in a book, try My Curse by Killswitch Engage.
They're in a book which the pages are flicking in, and Howard (their singer) is kinda chubby I guess.

Black and hes fatter than the guy in that video, and in the video it kinda fizzles into the metal parts, like switches into it, I cant remember the name of the band but it wasnt one I had heard of before (maybe not popular). And I dont really know the difference Twi. :laugh:

[InOne]

Maybe Korn?

[BB_Eye]

I can't believe all this greaseball post-grunge music (and that includes screamo/emo whatever you want to call it) is still so popular. It's incredibly dated.

[lol]

I'll try find metal bands with black singers.
Do you remember what other band members looked like?

[Twilight]

Post-hardcore is where they sing in some parts and scream in the other parts :)

[lol]

Maybe Korn?

He's not black and he's certainly not fat. :P

[Twilight]

I can't believe all this greaseball post-grunge music (and that includes screamo/emo whatever you want to call it) is still so popular. It's incredibly dated.

Its good imo, i don't plan on stopping listening to it any time soon. :P

[Jords]

Post-hardcore is where they sing in some parts and scream in the other parts :)

It was post-hardcore then. :tongue:

[MrGaryy]

Its good imo, i don't plan on stopping listening to it any time soon. :P

Why are you so defensive may I ask?

[lol]

Could be metalcore aswell, as that's a fusion of heavy and soft metal.
Metalcore tends to have a few breakdowns aswell, did you hear any?

[InOne]

He's not black and he's certainly not fat. :P

Yeah but he's not white is he lol Is he Pacific Islander or something?

[Twilight]

Why are you so defensive may I ask?

I'm not LOL sorry if i seemed it :P

[lol]

I think I may have found it.
When the heavy guitar plays, the screen kinda rotates and comes upside down sometimes if that's what you mean.

The End of Heartache - Killswitch Engage

Plus Howard is black, and kinda chubby.

[BB_Eye]

Each to their own I guess.

BTW I thought post-hardcore referred to music by bands like Fugazi, who actually emerged from the hardcore punk scene and were quite closely associated with acts like Minor Threat.

nVCMLWtVN5E

The stuff you're referring to (presumably Fall Out Boy or the Lostprophets) sounds nothing like it. Hence the phrase post-grunge, which is really a form of pop.

[Jords]

Nah its not that, the band were like on a stage and the room was very yellowy/brown in colour, dont worry about it Ill probably come across it again sometime, Im not a huge fan of metal but I did quite that.

[lol]

Each to their own I guess.

BTW I thought post-hardcore referred to music by bands like Fugazi, who actually emerged from the hardcore punk scene and were quite closely associated with acts like Minor Threat.

nVCMLWtVN5E

The stuff you're referring to (presumably Fall Out Boy or the Lostprophets) sounds nothing like it. Hence the phrase post-grunge, which is really a form of pop.

Fall Out Boy are like pop rock, and Lost Prophets are just plain rock I think.

Post-hardcore is bands like August Burns Red, Asking Alexandria, Emmure, The Devil Wears Prada etc.
Or they're metalcore, idk the difference between metalcore and post-hardcore.

[lol]

Nah its not that, the band were like on a stage and the room was very yellowy/brown in colour, dont worry about it Ill probably come across it again sometime, Im not a huge fan of metal but I did quite that.

Ah it's fine I'm sitting at home, got nothing to do lol, may aswell try find the vid, besides I may like it aswell. :P

[Stu]

I love when metal fans get anal about subgenres. It's way too subjective. Who gives a toss ... I mean really.

Dark ambient trip hop beats them all.

[Twilight]

Yeah LostProphets are definitely rock, and All time low etc are Pop rock imo.

[lol]

I love when metal fans get anal about subgenres. It's way too subjective. Who gives a toss ... I mean really.

Dark ambient trip hop beats them all.

I wasn't getting "anal" about it...
I simply explained to the person, it's not like I was like "LIEK OMG LOST PROPHETS AREN'T METAL Y00 IDIOT THEY'RE LIEK PROGRESSIVE ALTERNATIVE TRANCE ROCK"

[Stu]

Lostprophets are pop rock too, really, if you want to go into genres like that. Very, very hook centric hard rock songs, clean cut image, lyrics that recycle words like 'hope', 'mountains' and 'heartbreak' ...

... the lot.

[Stu]

I wasn't getting "anal" about it...
I simply explained to the person, it's not like I was like "LIEK OMG LOST PROPHETS AREN'T METAL Y00 IDIOT THEY'RE LIEK PROGRESSIVE ALTERNATIVE TRANCE ROCK"
I think you may take things a little too seriously.

The world aint out to get ya.

The point being genres can be silly given how subjective they are with something like metal. Metal is metal. Most of it sounds like something else and we really don't need the amount of genres that we do, IMHO.

It's a way for elitists to sound elite. And that's only really fun with electronic music. There's only so many ways you can tune a guitar.

[lol]

I think you may take things a little too seriously.

The world aint out to get ya.

I was completely calm about it.
I simply told you I wasn't being "anal" about the whole genre thing lol. >.<

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[Lee.]

"MTV Rocks" may or may not be a misleading name, but I LOVE it anyway! That and NME are really the only ywo channels I watch.

[lol]

I think you may take things a little too seriously.

The world aint out to get ya.

The point being genres can be silly given how subjective they are with something like metal. Metal is metal. Most of it sounds like something else and we really don't need the amount of genres that we do, IMHO.

It's a way for elitists to sound elite. And that's only really fun with electronic music. There's only so many ways you can tune a guitar.

I dislike how many subgenres there are aswell, but there is a huge difference between metalcore and normal rock, I was just explaining that LP aren't metalcore. :P
The difference is as big as Rap and Death metal.

[Stu]

I wasn't even talking about metalcore. More making a general statement directed at nobody in particular.

What on earth is 'normal rock'? :confused:

[lol]

I wasn't even talking about metalcore. More making a general statement directed at nobody in particular.

What on earth is 'normal rock'? :confused:

Idk, it's just the bands that pop up in my head when I think of rock, for example Foo Fighters.

[Stu]

I suppose. 'Normal rock' to me conjures up images of The Pidgeon Detectives, Scouting For Girls, those ones that done sung 'Chelsea Dagger' and any other 'insert your band here', 3PM festival slotting, personality devoid douchebags.

[InOne]

I suppose. 'Normal rock' to me conjures up images of The Pidgeon Detectives, Scouting For Girls, those ones that done sung 'Chelsea Dagger' and any other 'insert your band here', 3PM festival slotting, personality devoid douchebags.

I'd say they were more Indie, or 'Indie Disco'

[Stu]

I'd say they are more steaming bags of piss. That kind of indie is a bizarre oxymoron. As soon as it becomes indie it stops becoming indie.

[InOne]

Yeah, hated that period in 06 I think it was, when a lot of bands like that came out. The Kooks, Kaiser Chiefs ect

[Simone.]

"MTV Rocks" may or may not be a misleading name, but I LOVE it anyway! That and NME are really the only ywo channels I watch.

NME have a channel!?
I always read the magazine but I didn't know they had a channel!

[Ramsay]

kerrang and scuzz are massive sellouts
kerrang used to be about classic/modern rock
scuzz used to be metal
now they are both just stupid emo shows:bawling:

[lol]

kerrang and scuzz are massive sellouts
kerrang used to be about classic/modern rock
scuzz used to be metal
now they are both just stupid emo shows:bawling:

True, although they play some decent bands from time to time. Just gotta get past all the emo crap like Paramore and All Time Low first.

[xDramatick]

I love when metal fans get anal about subgenres. It's way too subjective. Who gives a toss ... I mean really.

This is how I feel!
My bf's brother is ALWAYS correcting me when I describe music, because I label my music like "pop", "indie", "rock", "electro", "R&B", "soul", "jazz", "blues" etc. & generally don't bother with going into subgenres.

[Lee.]

NME have a channel!?
I always read the magazine but I didn't know they had a channel!

Yeah! channel 382 on Sky! :elephant:

[Simone.]

Oohh, that makes sense I don't have sky :(

[Lee.]

Oohh, that makes sense I don't have sky :(

hahah.. oh right. Yip that will explain it :)

[lol]

Forget I even said anything...no point talking to people who can't answer questions without saying "Fail" or w/e...

[Stu]

But aren't Soul, Jazz and Blues pretty much the same?
Jesus christ.

[Lee.]

Jesus christ.

:laugh2:

[LemonJam]

But aren't Soul, Jazz and Blues pretty much the same?

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[Tom4784]

I rarely watch music channels but if I do I generally go for MTV2.

[BB_Eye]

But aren't Soul, Jazz and Blues pretty much the same?

Lolwut?

[xDramatick]

But aren't Soul, Jazz and Blues pretty much the same?

:/

[Lee.]

I rarely watch music channels but if I do I generally go for MTV2.

MTV2 is now called MTV Rocks

[BB_Eye]

Probably showing my age, but I miss MTV2 when it was called M2, before it started playing nothing but hard rock.

[CaraRawr]

It can be decent to be honest, but yeahh FATM is not rock. Kerrang! and Lava ftw, Scuzz can be okay too sometimes.

[Shaun]

Let's all just stick to VH1 Classic.

[lol]

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Is it that hard to answer a question?
I can't help it if I rarely listen to Jazz and stuff.

[Stu]

It's got nothing to do with that, really. I don't listen to Opera but I know it's not the same as Dubstep, which I also don't listen to.

I can't really answer the question. It's almost too obvious. I suggest wikipedia. I mean ... Jazz is Jazz and Blues is Blues. And Soul is Soul. They cross paths but don't they all?

Rock, and in turn everything that came from rock, came from the blues FFS. Rock was just really angry, swaggering, teen blues about nicking a Silk Cut off yer mum and stuff.

[Lee.]

Is it that hard to answer a question?
I can't help it if I rarely listen to Jazz and stuff.

I don't blame you! I reckon Satan himself must have invented jazz!

[Shaun]

Jazz is much more instrumental than both blues or soul.

Blues is probably a lot more 'white' than the other two in that its influenced mainstream rock a lot more: Bob Dylan, Rolling Stones, etc. It's essentially singing about one's troubles, and comes from the deep south's black community.

Soul...more vocal, Aretha, Otis etc. Think gospel meets blues.

[i'm not saying these are precise definitions but they're what I think separates the 3]

[Stu]

And if you want to learn more about the origins of all those genres I suggest you go here: http://www.thisisbigbrother.com/forums/showthread.php?t=92234

[lol]

Jazz is much more instrumental than both blues or soul.

Blues is probably a lot more 'white' than the other two in that its influenced mainstream rock a lot more: Bob Dylan, Rolling Stones, etc. It's essentially singing about one's troubles, and comes from the deep south's black community.

Soul...more vocal, Aretha, Otis etc. Think gospel meets blues.

[i'm not saying these are precise definitions but they're what I think separates the 3]

Thank you for answering me. :)
I understand now.

[BB_Eye]

Is it that hard to answer a question?
I can't help it if I rarely listen to Jazz and stuff.

Well both Jazz and Soul evolved out of blues in different ways. Jazz more directly, Soul from rhythm & blues and gospel. But I just find it ironic that you could listen to Miles Davis' back catalogue and probably find more musical diversity than in the entire heavy metal genre.

[Stu]

Miles Davis' Backwash is a great name for a heavy metal band.