John James was completley right!

[serensilver]

On last nights live feed JJ was right, Ben is the most selfish housemate, he doesnt do anything for other people he is moaning for not having enough "alone" time ffs this is big brother its a community house you cant expect to be alone and have lights out and silence from 11:30 in the night!:conf:

Its all "poor Ben poor Ben" If Ben had his way they'd all be in bed by 11:30 and we would have nothing to watch apart from them all snoozing! :sleep:

I just wish they would stop molly codling him and tell him to get involved with tasks and stop being so damn selfish!:cloud:

[karezza]

I agree - Crab Eyes is a deranged, misogynistic idiot.

[Chels]

Nathan said exactly the same and everyone called him a bully cos of it.

[serensilver]

Nathan said exactly the same and everyone called him a bully cos of it.

Well they shouldnt have cant believe how much he gets fushed over :nono:

[Chels]

Well they shouldnt have cant believe how much he gets fushed over :nono:

Yeah, I don't like JJ or Ben that much but JJ was 100% right. Didn't see it but I read the updates this morning :p

[Zippy]

Ben is his own person. If he doesnt wanna do certain tasks then he shouldnt. End of.

BB HMs should be true to themselves first and foremost.

And JJ should shut his angry gob and stop dangling his carrot in Josies face!

[Kazanne]

On last nights live feed JJ was right, Ben is the most selfish housemate, he doesnt do anything for other people he is moaning for not having enough "alone" time ffs this is big brother its a community house you cant expect to be alone and have lights out and silence from 11:30 in the night!:conf:

Its all "poor Ben poor Ben" If Ben had his way they'd all be in bed by 11:30 and we would have nothing to watch apart from them all snoozing! :sleep:

I just wish they would stop molly codling him and tell him to get involved with tasks and stop being so damn selfish!:cloud:

Ben has said he is selfish,he is honest,just waiting for jj to admit anything bad about himself,like being a coward for instance.

[Kazanne]

Ben is his own person. If he doesnt wanna do certain tasks then he shouldnt. End of.

BB HMs should be true to themselves first and foremost.

And JJ should shut his angry gob and stop dangling his carrot in Josies face!

Carrot?lol you being a bit generous there:joker:

[30stone]

Ben is his own person. If he doesnt wanna do certain tasks then he shouldnt. End of.

BB HMs should be true to themselves first and foremost.

And JJ should shut his angry gob and stop dangling his carrot in Josies face!

Bens just selfish though and wont put any effort in, if your going to screw everyone else over by doing **** all in a task, expect to have someone shout at you.

Id be going mad at ben.. especially the time where he made dave do the exercises for him..

[Kazanne]

Yeah, I don't like JJ or Ben that much but JJ was 100% right. Didn't see it but I read the updates this morning :p

Perhaps you should see it, as the updates if they are from here may not be factual:sleep:

[Zippy]

Id be going mad at ben.. especially the time where he made dave do the exercises for him..

:joker:

One of my series HLs!

For pure cheek.

[MeMyselfAndI]

i tottally agree!!
Ben has gone down in my ladder!! he was my joint 3rd fave
rude person!

[Kazanne]

Nathan said exactly the same and everyone called him a bully cos of it.

Nathan said it once maybe twice,not 100s of times,nathan got to know Ben and liked him JJ however is only interesting in himself,I so wish JJ had gone over Nathan,now the twonk is rooted there

[Angus]

Bens just selfish though and wont put any effort in, if your going to screw everyone else over by doing **** all in a task, expect to have someone shout at you.

Id be going mad at ben.. especially the time where he made dave do the exercises for him..

Well all they have to do in the house is NOMINATE him, that is the ultimate sanction for the HMs you don't like, so just bloody use it, and don't subject us viewers to the mindless rantings of an aussie ***** who can barely string a coherent sentence together, never mind a reasoned argument, and who doesn't wait to listen to his opponent's response before going off on one again.

[Zippy]

i tottally agree!!
Ben has gone down in my ladder!! he was my joint 3rd fave
rude person!

Yeah yeah we get it. Anyone who says a bad word to your beloved JJ goes down your ladder. Your ladder being a fickle piece of crap.

[Chels]

Perhaps you should see it, as the updates if they are from here may not be factual:sleep:

I don't need no proof, Ben's done this non-teamwork, selfish bastard buisness from the moment he walked through those doors. JJ isn't the first to bring him up on it so he's clearly in the right.

[Kore]

Ben has said he is selfish,he is honest,just waiting for jj to admit anything bad about himself,like being a coward for instance.

And JJ has admitted he gets angry in debates! AND is WILLING to change to become a better person. When he asked Ben if he would be willing to put 100% into the tasks so the group could have hot water and foor ben said NO!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

[30stone]

And JJ has admitted he gets angry in debates! AND is WILLING to change to become a better person. When he asked Ben if he would be willing to put 100% into the tasks so the group could have hot water and foor ben said NO!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

Ben is such a tit!

Was one of my favourites at the start now probably one of my worst.
Along with mario who has recently dropped in my estimations.

[calyman]

On last nights live feed JJ was right, Ben is the most selfish housemate, he doesnt do anything for other people he is moaning for not having enough "alone" time ffs this is big brother its a community house you cant expect to be alone and have lights out and silence from 11:30 in the night!:conf:

Its all "poor Ben poor Ben" If Ben had his way they'd all be in bed by 11:30 and we would have nothing to watch apart from them all snoozing! :sleep:

I just wish they would stop molly codling him and tell him to get involved with tasks and stop being so damn selfish!:cloud:

"Fixed for a more objective appraisal"


On last nights live feed Ben was right, JJ is the most angry, snidey, stupid and misogynistic housemate, he doesnt do anything for other people he is moaning for not having enough "air" time ffs this is big brother its a community house you cant expect to be always on screen and have the fake nomance dragging on!

Its all "poor JJ poor JJ" If JJ had his way he'd marry, then divorce himself and we would have nothing to watch apart from his breakdown!

I just wish they would stop molly codling him and tell him to get counselling and stop being so damn selfish!

[Kazanne]

Bens just selfish though and wont put any effort in, if your going to screw everyone else over by doing **** all in a task, expect to have someone shout at you.

Id be going mad at ben.. especially the time where he made dave do the exercises for him..

Ben has tried at his tasks as explained last night ,the tasks that have been given are not what Ben is good at,but he has tried he has not refused as JJ claimed,and didnt JJ fail a S&R task on purpose?(well he'de have us believe that)lol,and JJ was seething that task was all about Ben last night so he did not want to do it,and he didnt so they probably failed,so where is the spiteful little twonks team spirit now?ben will not care much about his case he is easy going,but IF they fail the task that will be in part down to JJ,that is what makes JJ such a hypocrite

[MeMyselfAndI]

well Zippy ur blind
Corin is such a fake cow :D

[flamingGalah!]

So what if Ben doesn't give 100% in tasks? It's up to him! They know what he's like & he's honest about it... It doesn't however give that twat JJ the right to have a go (again) & argue & bully him at the same time potentially ruining the Ben task!! lol... It just made JJ look like even more of a sad twat to me... :xyxwave:

[flamingGalah!]

well Zippy ur blind
Corin is such a fake cow :D

Lol! How exactly is Corin fake?? And I don't mean her hair, tan or tits... :xyxwave:

[chuff me dizzy]

When Ben claimed the nest was his sanctuary and people should give him quite time in it ?? wtf ?? WHO does he think he is ?

[joeysteele]

Well if the task was to be and at the toff, JJ has well and truly failed that task so should be well punished, If the idea was that they should be like Ben then JJ has shown he not only cannot be like him but has no idea how to act properly and with grace and intelligence,also to make his points in a decent and structured way,JJ then has totally failed this task, it was not reliant on Ben to win this task for THEM, they had to win it for themselves. JJ has shown he will use total disruption to get his way and also use as it an excuse to lose his temper, he has shown himself up to be the real oddball he is and a rather nasty person deep down inside too. Get this actor out and his filthy foul mouthed temper with him.John James act like a well to do person, JJ hasnt a clue how to act like a decent human being never mind act like someone with some style and grace to them.

[chuff me dizzy]

So what if Ben doesn't give 100% in tasks? It's up to him! They know what he's like & he's honest about it... It doesn't however give that twat JJ the right to have a go (again) & argue & bully him at the same time potentially ruining the Ben task!! lol... It just made JJ look like even more of a sad twat to me... :xyxwave:

Its NOT up to him ,as JJ pointed out ,he signed before he went in h would do tasks, if Ben chooses to not be assed the others suffer ,this is what JJ was pointing out to him ,and he was right

[flamingGalah!]

When Ben claimed the nest was his sanctuary and people should give him quite time in it ?? wtf ?? WHO does he think he is ?

He is King Ben! :D

[Livia]

On last nights live feed JJ was right, Ben is the most selfish housemate, he doesnt do anything for other people he is moaning for not having enough "alone" time ffs this is big brother its a community house you cant expect to be alone and have lights out and silence from 11:30 in the night!:conf:

Its all "poor Ben poor Ben" If Ben had his way they'd all be in bed by 11:30 and we would have nothing to watch apart from them all snoozing! :sleep:

I just wish they would stop molly codling him and tell him to get involved with tasks and stop being so damn selfish!:cloud:

JJ would have thought he was right too. He never considers for one minute that there might be another side to the story and that his own actions are at fault. He's like a big baby.

[flamingGalah!]

Its NOT up to him ,as JJ pointed out ,he signed before he went in h would do tasks, if Ben chooses to not be assed the others suffer ,this is what JJ was pointing out to him ,and he was right

But no one HAS to do the tasks, it is up to them. People in the past have rebelled or given up, usually stating silly reasons, at least Ben is honest...

JJ could point things out in a different manner though, he just comes across as aggressive & argumentative & any points he makes are lost...

[joeysteele]

BB should as punishment for failing the task so soon,put John James automatically up for the public vote next week and make BEN immune from being nominated next week to as a punishement to the other housemates who allowed JJ to scupper the task.
That will give JJ a hell of a week even if he doesnt go but it will hammer the grumpy Steve too who nominates Ben every week anyway.Ben may not get his case but he will be able to award himslef a small smile at the result. John James is a very nasty person indeed and add his temper to that it even makes him likely dangerous too.

[chuff me dizzy]

But no one HAS to do the tasks, it is up to them. People in the past have rebelled or given up, usually stating silly reasons, at least Ben is honest...

JJ could point things out in a different manner though, he just comes across as aggressive & argumentative & any points he makes are lost...

If he doesnt do the task they should nominate him

[flamingGalah!]

If he doesnt do the task they should nominate him

Well quite!! Why the ****** don't they then?? It's simple, if they hate him that much nominate him..

[flamingGalah!]

BB should as punishment for failing the task so soon,put John James automatically up for the public vote next week and make BEN immune from being nominated next week to as a punishement to the other housemates who allowed JJ to scupper the task.
That will give JJ a hell of a week even if he doesnt go but it will hammer the grumpy Steve too who nominates Ben every week anyway.Ben may not get his case but he will be able to award himslef a small smile at the result. John James is a very nasty person indeed and add his temper to that it even makes him likely dangerous too.

Lol, that would be great! :dance:

[Kazanne]

Its NOT up to him ,as JJ pointed out ,he signed before he went in h would do tasks, if Ben chooses to not be assed the others suffer ,this is what JJ was pointing out to him ,and he was right

Chuff ,JJ has not always put 100% into tasks,by his own admission

[Zippy]

Its NOT up to him ,as JJ pointed out ,he signed before he went in h would do tasks, if Ben chooses to not be assed the others suffer ,this is what JJ was pointing out to him ,and he was right

Utter tripe. Nobody signs to do tasks!

They make decisions as they go along. If Ben doesnt wanna do certain things then he damn well shouldnt have to.

Just like JJ the bulgeless didnt wanna walk round in those superhero pants! Vain twat.

[Kore]

So what if Ben doesn't give 100% in tasks? It's up to him! They know what he's like & he's honest about it... It doesn't however give that twat JJ the right to have a go (again) & argue & bully him at the same time potentially ruining the Ben task!! lol... It just made JJ look like even more of a sad twat to me... :xyxwave:

oh here we go! the 'Bully' word again! I hate the way people use this word purposely to try and turn forum members against housemates! He was telling him straight! and Being honest! and Ben couldnt handle it!

[flamingGalah!]

oh here we go! the 'Bully' word again! I hate the way people use this word purposely to try and turn forum members against housemates! He was telling him straight! and Being honest! and Ben couldnt handle it!

Your opinion of JJ is biased & you see him through rose tinted glasses!!

He IS a BULLY!! As he only picks on weaker people!!

And WTF?? How is calling him a bully "purposely" trying to "turn" forum members against him?!? LOL!!!! :laugh2: What, as opposed to you calling Corin fake?? :joker:

Some people do make me laugh at their double standards!!! :joker:

:xyxwave:

[Kore]

Utter tripe. Nobody signs to do tasks!

They make decisions as they go along. If Ben doesnt wanna do certain things then he damn well shouldnt have to.

Just like JJ the bulgeless didnt wanna walk round in those superhero pants! Vain twat.

But that is selfish! the other housemates will not get hot water and food! JJ has a right to tell Ben straight how he feels. Clash of cultures and personality.

JJ is willing to change for Ben (anger) but Ben IS NOT willing to change for all the housemates' well-being. I just find that astonishing, and he is still the favourite to win. pff.

[Kazanne]

Utter tripe. Nobody signs to do tasks!

They make decisions as they go along. If Ben doesnt wanna do certain things then he damn well shouldnt have to.

Just like JJ the bulgeless didnt wanna walk round in those superhero pants! Vain twat.

:joker::joker::joker::joker: thanks,that last paragraph made me chuckle:xyxwave:

[chuff me dizzy]

Chuff ,JJ has not always put 100% into tasks,by his own admission

But hes put a darn sight more effort in than Ben ,Anyone could have done the tape to the board task ,all he had to do was stand there ,but he pulled out ,he said first few days in he had promised Mummy he would do anything to make him look silly(lose his street cred) if I were in there I would nominate him for making zero effort

[Kazanne]

But that is selfish! the other housemates will not get hot water and food! JJ has a right to tell Ben straight how he feels. Clash of cultures and personality.

JJ is willing to change for Ben (anger) but Ben IS NOT willing to change for all the housemates' well-being. I just find that astonishing, and he is still the favourite to win. pff.

Ben did say he will try in the tasks and he does ,he cant help it if he not the atheletic type,he HAS won things for them so all that needs to happen is for JJ to get lost.

[chuff me dizzy]

Your opinion of JJ is biased & you see him through rose tinted glasses!!

He IS a BULLY!! As he only picks on weaker people!!

And WTF?? How is calling him a bully "purposely" trying to "turn" forum members against him?!? LOL!!!! :laugh2: What, as opposed to you calling Corin fake?? :joker:

Some people do make me laugh at their double standards!!! :joker:

:xyxwave:

Utter BS galah and you know it

[flamingGalah!]

Utter BS galah and you know it

Nope, not at all :xyxwave:

[Kore]

Your opinion of JJ is biased & you see him through rose tinted glasses!!

He IS a BULLY!! As he only picks on weaker people!!

And WTF?? How is calling him a bully "purposely" trying to "turn" forum members against him?!? LOL!!!! :laugh2: What, as opposed to you calling Corin fake?? :joker:

Some people do make me laugh at their double standards!!! :joker:

:xyxwave:

But Corin is clearly puttin on an act...? And JJ is real, he is opinionated, and he tells people how he feels. No way is that considered 'bullying' :xyxwave:

He doesnt Pick on weaker people!!! Ben isnt weaker! :joker:

Of course your opinion is biased against JJ... he can do no right, you only pick his faults. Do you even watch the show and sit back and enjoy it? or do you put your face up to the screen and watch JJs every move to find his faults :joker:

[stoney]

On last nights live feed JJ was right, Ben is the most selfish housemate, he doesnt do anything for other people he is moaning for not having enough "alone" time ffs this is big brother its a community house you cant expect to be alone and have lights out and silence from 11:30 in the night!:conf:

Its all "poor Ben poor Ben" If Ben had his way they'd all be in bed by 11:30 and we would have nothing to watch apart from them all snoozing! :sleep:

I just wish they would stop molly codling him and tell him to get involved with tasks and stop being so damn selfish!:cloud:

does JJ have the ability to LISTEN:conf:

cos he was totally unaweare of how to do so last night:nono:

Yep you cant expect total silence to allow people to sleep from 1130 but coming into the bedroom at 130 when people are sleeping to have some playtime is just totally insensitive in a shared house with many other areas, or dont shared rules apply to JJ :conf:I'm totslly with ben and keeley over that

As for JJ's cr@p about the tasks..........which inmate has claimed 2 times now that they threw a task:conf: ( JJ)
Ben has got as involved as any of them when doing tasks, except his pathetic attempt at armwrestling that he allowed himself to be so quickly shut down by Nathan and Shabby, altho he does moan about them:nono:.

But that us because so far most of the tasks have been physical. Lets see the production team do some more creative type things and then we can see super JJ:sleep: do his best:sleep:

But what Ben has always said about the tasks still stand.........he knows what he is good or bad at and he will not put himself out for something he knows he has no chance in.

When JJ was going on and on and on and on and on etc, about ben not trying in tasks ( a lie), not being prepared to try harder in tasks ( a lie as Dave confirmed) and how its cos of Ben they dont get shopping or hot water and JJ would NEVER do such thing I just wanted Ben to remind the smug bore who cost them the luxury budget the week ben lost them the hot water:spin:

JJ witterred on and on and on with his repetitive drivel for over an hour saying mostly the same thing over and over and over and over again:sleep:

I would also belive that he doesn't care what we think of him if he would stop reminding of it so bleedin much:sleep:

[fingers]

Ben has tried at his tasks as explained last night ,the tasks that have been given are not what Ben is good at,but he has tried he has not refused as JJ claimed,and didnt JJ fail a S&R task on purpose?(well he'de have us believe that)lol,and JJ was seething that task was all about Ben last night so he did not want to do it,and he didnt so they probably failed,so where is the spiteful little twonks team spirit now?ben will not care much about his case he is easy going,but IF they fail the task that will be in part down to JJ,that is what makes JJ such a hypocrite

Three words "Arm wrestling task!"

[flamingGalah!]

But Corin is clearly puttin on an act...? And JJ is real, he is opinionated, and he tells people how he feels. No way is that considered 'bullying' :xyxwave:

He doesnt Pick on weaker people!!! Ben isnt weaker! :joker:

Of course your opinion is biased against JJ... he can do no right, you only pick his faults. Do you even watch the show and sit back and enjoy it? or do you put your face up to the screen and watch JJs every move to find his faults :joker:

Please expalin exactly how Corin is putting on an act & is "fake" :conf: perhaps you find it hard to believe that there are genuinely nice people about...

Yes JJ is real, a real BULLY!!!!

Of course Ben is weaker than him, he is very effeminate, JJ would NEVER pick an argument with Steve!! He only picks on women & weaker men... so he's a coward to boot too :xyxwave:

Of course I watch the show, what a silly thing to say... But I find JJ an aggressive, argumentative, nasty, spiteful little twat... His faults are plain to see, perhaps YOU need to take a closer look... ;)

[stoney]

Its NOT up to him ,as JJ pointed out ,he signed before he went in h would do tasks, if Ben chooses to not be assed the others suffer ,this is what JJ was pointing out to him ,and he was right

apart from the TOT task can you point to ANY task that Ben did not try as hard as any other inmate :conf:

Ben has cost them hot water thru talking

But JJ cost them the luxury budget with his noms chat with Shabby:nono: altho he has rewritten that little piece of history

[stoney]

Three words "Arm wrestling task!"

did that cost them any food or hot water fingers:conf:

can you point to any shared group task that Ben has not tried in:conf:

[flamingGalah!]

Ben did very well in the hair cutting task against Titan... ;)

[chuff me dizzy]

But Corin is clearly puttin on an act...? And JJ is real, he is opinionated, and he tells people how he feels. No way is that considered 'bullying' :xyxwave:

He doesnt Pick on weaker people!!! Ben isnt weaker! :joker:

Of course your opinion is biased against JJ... he can do no right, you only pick his faults. Do you even watch the show and sit back and enjoy it? or do you put your face up to the screen and watch JJs every move to find his faults :joker:

Whenever JJ doesnt agree with fm fav hm8s (Ben Borin)he is a BULLY ,they obviously have never seen a bully at work !! JJ speaks his mind ,is 100% HONEST but a bully? no way

[stoney]

Whenever JJ doesnt agree with fm fav hm8s (Ben Borin)he is a BULLY ,they obviously have never seen a bully at work !! JJ speaks his mind ,is 100% HONEST but a bully? no way

How can you saty he is 100% honest.

Last night he repeatedly told us all how much he tries in every task didnt he. Was that him trying to pass this task last night, or didnt it matter cos it was only for Ben's suitcase:conf:
He has also said 2 times now that he didnt try in the S+R task so which one is the lie ( did he try or not:conf:)
He says that ben costs them food and hot water, a lie..........when has Ben cost them anything from the food budget as opposed to JJ who did cost them their first kuxury budget:conf:
He may speak his mind, after being told by someone what it is, but there is no need for the aggressive over the top repitition while not allowing the other person to state their case is there

[Zippy]

JJ ...is 100% HONEST but a bully? no way

:joker::joker::joker::joker::joker::joker::joker:

You're 100% gullible, more like.

[Kazanne]

ben also won them a luxury budget

[Kore]

Whenever JJ doesnt agree with fm fav hm8s (Ben Borin)he is a BULLY ,they obviously have never seen a bully at work !! JJ speaks his mind ,is 100% HONEST but a bully? no way

totally agree! at least JJ tries in team tasks. Ben has ADMITTED not trying and clearly is selfish to the rest of the group.

[Kazanne]

totally agree! at least JJ tries in team tasks. Ben has ADMITTED not trying and clearly is selfish to the rest of the group.

So JJ lost them a shopping budget onec and Ben won them one,Hmmmm

[stoney]

totally agree! at least JJ tries in team tasks. Ben has ADMITTED not trying and clearly is selfish to the rest of the group.

Ben haters keep claiming this but can you point out one team task he has not tried:conf:

also this repetitive cowardly rant was during a team task where people had to act pleasant and like a toff. Was JJ even trying:conf:

[serensilver]

Wow! i didnt expect so many replies! :wavey:

I dont know how many of you have actually watched the live feed from JJ and ben yet. however Ben asked JJ what his problem was up until then JJ hasnt said anything that bad to him, Ben asked so JJ told him that it is selfish that ben doesnt get involved in tasks and doesnt care about other housemates. Ben couldnt handle this and started getting personnal with JJ saying about him being unemployed etc JJ never got personal all the things he said to ben were about the Big Brother house.:wavey:

JJ has admitted that he has anger issues and has said he is toning it down as he doesnt want to upset the other housemates, during the whole conversation/disagreement JJ stayed lounging on his bed not shouting/intimmidating towards Ben.

As for the tasks Ben couldnt do the Exercise task because he wasnt strong enough so he sent and overweight 40 year old instead!

He had to end the one task where he was sellotaped to the wall.

When Titan said about the robot tasks ben said "what is mario getting so wound up about its only a bloody robot"
The arm wrestling task.

During the robot tasks the housemates sent Ben to do the hair cutting because he would cut someone else's hair not his own so he would do that, and also becasue he wouldnt be in the final showdown because he wouldnt be interested in doing it!

He has done some tasks i no like the superhero one where he was put in the room for 5 hours? hardly difficult really?

He did the puppet task, the one where they were on the flying table thing and some others he just needs to help the others to get the luxury budget and hot water! :wavey:

[Kazanne]

Wow! i didnt expect so many replies! :wavey:

I dont know how many of you have actually watched the live feed from JJ and ben yet. however Ben asked JJ what his problem was up until then JJ hasnt said anything that bad to him, Ben asked so JJ told him that it is selfish that ben doesnt get involved in tasks and doesnt care about other housemates. Ben couldnt handle this and started getting personnal with JJ saying about him being unemployed etc JJ never got personal all the things he said to ben were about the Big Brother house.:wavey:

JJ has admitted that he has anger issues and has said he is toning it down as he doesnt want to upset the other housemates, during the whole conversation/disagreement JJ stayed lounging on his bed not shouting/intimmidating towards Ben.

As for the tasks Ben couldnt do the Exercise task because he wasnt strong enough so he sent and overweight 40 year old instead!

He had to end the one task where he was sellotaped to the wall.

When Titan said about the robot tasks ben said "what is mario getting so wound up about its only a bloody robot"
The arm wrestling task.

During the robot tasks the housemates sent Ben to do the hair cutting because he would cut someone else's hair not his own so he would do that, and also becasue he wouldnt be in the final showdown because he wouldnt be interested in doing it!

He has done some tasks i no like the superhero one where he was put in the room for 5 hours? hardly difficult really?

He did the puppet task, the one where they were on the flying table thing and some others he just needs to help the others to get the luxury budget and hot water! :wavey:

You are kidding,JJ has been needling Ben since he did the standup,you have obviously been blinded by jjs so called good looks but those that watch the program have picked up on it,its been going on for weeks,as for the tasks I didnt see JJ rushing to get his rat tails cut,also the throwing of the bronco task although we all know he didnt throw it he lost!!and this latest task he has totally blown simply because he is a spoilt jealous child,

[Mystic Mock]

But Corin is clearly puttin on an act...? And JJ is real, he is opinionated, and he tells people how he feels. No way is that considered 'bullying' :xyxwave:

He doesnt Pick on weaker people!!! Ben isnt weaker! :joker:

Of course your opinion is biased against JJ... he can do no right, you only pick his faults. Do you even watch the show and sit back and enjoy it? or do you put your face up to the screen and watch JJs every move to find his faults :joker:

but ben isnt that strong in arguing because they shout over him so yeah he does have a go on people that he thinks are weak.

[Beastie]

Ben is his own person. If he doesnt wanna do certain tasks then he shouldnt. End of.

BB HMs should be true to themselves first and foremost.

And JJ should shut his angry gob and stop dangling his carrot in Josies face!

Ben should loosen up.. not be a party pooper and get stuck in the tasks!!

[Zippy]

Bens a rubbish arguer to be fair. He's to passive and polite.

But he still whipped JJs ass!

[serensilver]

You are kidding,JJ has been needling Ben since he did the standup,you have obviously been blinded by jjs so called good looks but those that watch the program have picked up on it,its been going on for weeks,as for the tasks I didnt see JJ rushing to get his rat tails cut,also the throwing of the bronco task although we all know he didnt throw it he lost!!and this latest task he has totally blown simply because he is a spoilt jealous child,

:cat:Im not saying JJ hasnt "been meddling" (sounds quite rude:D) with Ben but as dave said JJ is joking about and ben is too sensitive. JJ has never had a full blown row with ben obviously little comments but everyone says them, dave,JJ nathan,josie,mario,steve etc!

How has he blown the latest task? last i saw him he had his pink (ben) shirt on and his wig? :wavey:

[stoney]

Wow! i didnt expect so many replies! :wavey:

I dont know how many of you have actually watched the live feed from JJ and ben yet. however Ben asked JJ what his problem was up until then JJ hasnt said anything that bad to him, Ben asked so JJ told him that it is selfish that ben doesnt get involved in tasks and doesnt care about other housemates. Ben couldnt handle this and started getting personnal with JJ saying about him being unemployed etc JJ never got personal all the things he said to ben were about the Big Brother house.:wavey:

JJ has admitted that he has anger issues and has said he is toning it down as he doesnt want to upset the other housemates, during the whole conversation/disagreement JJ stayed lounging on his bed not shouting/intimmidating towards Ben.

As for the tasks Ben couldnt do the Exercise task because he wasnt strong enough so he sent and overweight 40 year old instead!

He had to end the one task where he was sellotaped to the wall.

When Titan said about the robot tasks ben said "what is mario getting so wound up about its only a bloody robot"
The arm wrestling task.

During the robot tasks the housemates sent Ben to do the hair cutting because he would cut someone else's hair not his own so he would do that, and also becasue he wouldnt be in the final showdown because he wouldnt be interested in doing it!

He has done some tasks i no like the superhero one where he was put in the room for 5 hours? hardly difficult really?

He did the puppet task, the one where they were on the flying table thing and some others he just needs to help the others to get the luxury budget and hot water! :wavey:

just a wee corection.
Ben never said anything about JJ being unempleyed cos Ben knows that JJ is living off the inheritance daddy left him.

He said in a reply to a JJ quip about his hair that JJ's mop made him look unemployed. Not very funny but as usual JJ over-reacted

Yep JJ has SAID he will tone down his temper and aggression, remind me again was that before or after he shouted at ben in that aggressive way about NOT caring what the GBP think

[Mystic Mock]

:cat:Im not saying JJ hasnt "been meddling" (sounds quite rude:D) with Ben but as dave said JJ is joking about and ben is too sensitive. JJ has never had a full blown row with ben obviously little comments but everyone says them, dave,JJ nathan,josie,mario,steve etc!

How has he blown the latest task? last i saw him he had his pink (ben) shirt on and his wig? :wavey:

ben is not the one crying in the dairy room saying he will leave the house if he dont make back up with somebody.

so your point is invalid.

[serensilver]

But he still whipped JJs ass!

Hardly JJ was lying on the bed talking! it would be different if he was standing and yelling at Ben. :wavey:

[serensilver]

just a wee corection.
Ben never said anything about JJ being unempleyed cos Ben knows that JJ is living off the inheritance daddy left him.

He said in a reply to a JJ quip about his hair that JJ's mop made him look unemployed. Not very funny but as usual JJ over-reacted

Yep JJ has SAID he will tone down his temper and aggression, remind me again was that before or after he shouted at ben in that aggressive way about NOT caring what the GBP think

So.......... he mentioned unemployment didnt he? come on JJ wasnt aggresive and as for what the GBP think its with regards to he isnt acting up for the cameras like he says some people are. :wavey:

i chuckled at your "just a wee correction" comment :hugesmile: i was like oh god have a done a spelling mistake :whistle:

[Kore]

Wow! i didnt expect so many replies! :wavey:

I dont know how many of you have actually watched the live feed from JJ and ben yet. however Ben asked JJ what his problem was up until then JJ hasnt said anything that bad to him, Ben asked so JJ told him that it is selfish that ben doesnt get involved in tasks and doesnt care about other housemates. Ben couldnt handle this and started getting personnal with JJ saying about him being unemployed etc JJ never got personal all the things he said to ben were about the Big Brother house.:wavey:

JJ has admitted that he has anger issues and has said he is toning it down as he doesnt want to upset the other housemates, during the whole conversation/disagreement JJ stayed lounging on his bed not shouting/intimmidating towards Ben.

As for the tasks Ben couldnt do the Exercise task because he wasnt strong enough so he sent and overweight 40 year old instead!

He had to end the one task where he was sellotaped to the wall.

When Titan said about the robot tasks ben said "what is mario getting so wound up about its only a bloody robot"
The arm wrestling task.

During the robot tasks the housemates sent Ben to do the hair cutting because he would cut someone else's hair not his own so he would do that, and also becasue he wouldnt be in the final showdown because he wouldnt be interested in doing it!

He has done some tasks i no like the superhero one where he was put in the room for 5 hours? hardly difficult really?

He did the puppet task, the one where they were on the flying table thing and some others he just needs to help the others to get the luxury budget and hot water! :wavey:

Good post Seren. This is exactly how it happened. Did you see the bit where JJ accepted he needs to calm his anger down and said he will work on that for Ben's sake, however Ben REFUSED to try and change and give 100% in tasks to benefit all the housemates.

That's the difference here. Ben is Selfish and JJ is unselfish and is telling Ben how he has never met somebody as Selfish as ben before. Culture Clash.

[serensilver]

Good post Seren. This is exactly how it happened. Did you see the bit where JJ accepted he needs to calm his anger down and said he will work on that for Ben's sake, however Ben REFUSED to try and change and give 100% in tasks to benefit all the housemates.

That's the difference here. Ben is Selfish and JJ is unselfish and is telling Ben how he has never met somebody as Selfish as ben before. Culture Clash.

:dance::dance::dance::dance::dance::dance::dance:: dance::dance::dance:

hey! someone who actually watched the footage and didnt poke holes in it!

:wavey::wavey::wavey::wavey::wavey::wavey::wavey:: wavey::wavey:

[Kore]

Bens a rubbish arguer to be fair. He's to passive and polite.

But he still whipped JJs ass!

Your talking out of YOUR ass Zip :laugh:

NO WAY did Ben whip JJs ass... definately the other way around! Ben was lost for words and ended up asking for the debate to stop because he knew he was in the wrong. Its a shame C4 editors will make JJ look like the bad guy :(

[supergirthuk]

On last nights live feed JJ was right, Ben is the most selfish housemate, he doesnt do anything for other people he is moaning for not having enough "alone" time ffs this is big brother its a community house you cant expect to be alone and have lights out and silence from 11:30 in the night!:conf:

Its all "poor Ben poor Ben" If Ben had his way they'd all be in bed by 11:30 and we would have nothing to watch apart from them all snoozing! :sleep:

I just wish they would stop molly codling him and tell him to get involved with tasks and stop being so damn selfish!:cloud:

There are plenty of places housemates can play and be raucous so why shouldnt people respect others if they want to sleep in a bedroom.

Ben repects that others are not like him and that they may not be able to contain there excitement but he just asks if people would respect that when people are sleeping that people allow them to do so.

Just because John James is sporty and enthusiastic to show himself in a good light with his competitive team spirit it doesnt mean everyone has to. Ben has as much right not to be enthusiastic as JJ has to be so.

However, if John James is the selfless person that he claims to be he would able to accept Ben's choices instead of trying to highlight what he deems as a flaw and get people in the house against Ben. This is obvious gameplay by John James as he attacks at least one housemate each week after evictions or on the Sunday before Monday's nominations. There is nothing wrong with gameplay but he is overly aggressive in the way he does it and do not be mistaken into thinking that what he would like you to believe is a selfless act will be used by himself to show himself in a good light and is therefore not selfless but a calculated gamble with a wholly selfish intent.

[Kazanne]

Your talking out of YOUR ass Zip :laugh:

NO WAY did Ben whip JJs ass... definately the other way around! Ben was lost for words and ended up asking for the debate to stop because he knew he was in the wrong. Its a shame C4 editors will make JJ look like the bad guy :(

he asked it to stop because JJ kept going over old ground as usual and his stop button brokeben said so didn't you hear him?,but IF you want to believe JJ won,who are we to stop you,dream on.

[Kazanne]

There are plenty of places housemates can play and be raucous so why shouldnt people respect others if they want to sleep in a bedroom.

Ben repects that others are not like him and that they may not be able to contain there excitement but he just asks if people would respect that when people are sleeping that people allow them to do so.

Just because John James is sporty and enthusiastic to show himself in a good light with his competitive team spirit it doesnt mean everyone has to. Ben has as much right not to be enthusiastic as JJ has to be so.

However, if John James is the selfless person that he claims to be he would able to accept Ben's choices instead of trying to highlight what he deems as a flaw and get people in the house against Ben. This is obvious gameplay by John James as he attacks at least one housemate each week after evictions or on the Sunday before Monday's nominations. There is nothing wrong with gameplay but he is overly aggressive in the way he does it and do not be mistaken into thinking that what he would like you to believe is a selfless act will be used by himself to show himself in a good light and is therefore not selfless but a calculated gamble with a wholly selfish intent.

Well posted and spot on.

[chuff me dizzy]

Bens a rubbish arguer to be fair. He's to passive and polite.

But he still whipped JJs ass!

So you didnt watch lf last night then ?

[Kazanne]

:cat:Im not saying JJ hasnt "been meddling" (sounds quite rude:D) with Ben but as dave said JJ is joking about and ben is too sensitive. JJ has never had a full blown row with ben obviously little comments but everyone says them, dave,JJ nathan,josie,mario,steve etc!

How has he blown the latest task? last i saw him he had his pink (ben) shirt on and his wig? :wavey:

they are supposed to be talking 'posh' for 24 hours are they not so jj along with others must have failed

[alc09]

JJ was talking ****, he would never talk to another HM like that. Not a chance.

[red]

yes JJ did have a point but he didnt need to be so aggressive about it , IMO he should have told him in a calm way..

[chuff me dizzy]

yes JJ did have a point but he didnt need to be so aggressive about it , IMO he should have told him in a calm way..

"Aggresive" ?????? Jesus wept ,change the record :sleep:

[-Sue-]

chattig / banta or trying to get a point across ito Ben's thick skull you need to shout to be heard.. very furstrating to have your say and the person your tryig to resolve an issue with just keeps spouting 'poor me' or digs.. but skips over all thats said by other person...

[red]

"Aggresive" ?????? Jesus wept ,change the record :sleep:

crab-eyes's head looked like itwas about to explode during the argument..

[chuff me dizzy]

crab-eyes's head looked like itwas about to explode during the argument..

So you didnt bother watching live feed then ? :sleep:

[chuff me dizzy]

chattig / banta or trying to get a point across ito Ben's thick skull you need to shout to be heard.. very furstrating to have your say and the person your tryig to resolve an issue with just keeps spouting 'poor me' or digs.. but skips over all thats said by other person...

Then ropes everyone else in for back up :bored::bored:,loads the gun ofr others to fire the bullits

[-Sue-]

Then ropes everyone else in for back up :bored::bored:,loads the gun ofr others to fire the bullits

exactly he plays the sympathy card well..shame really such a waste of perfectly good points on him from JJ.. in one ear out the other...

[chuff me dizzy]

exactly he plays the sympathy card well..shame really such a waste of perfectly good points on him from JJ.. in one ear out the other...

hes been the same from the start ,Mario has moved away from him now because every argument Ben got in he dragged Mario in to defend him

[alc09]

hes been the same from the start ,Mario has moved away from him now because every argument Ben got in he dragged Mario in to defend him
No, Mario has 'moved away' beause Ben doesn't fancy him.

Ben didn't drag him in, Mario constantly offered to stick up for him, as he did with Ife.

Simple as that.

[serensilver]

they are supposed to be talking 'posh' for 24 hours are they not so jj along with others must have failed

:wavey: oh right so it wasnt just JJ like you made out in your post? so he didnt fail the task they all did!

[serensilver]

"Aggresive" ?????? Jesus wept ,change the record :sleep:

agreed! if they think JJ was aggresive god help them! :joker:

[Kazanne]

:wavey: oh right so it wasnt just JJ like you made out in your post? so he didnt fail the task they all did!

But he is the only one banging on about doing things for the group,so you see he aint so bothered himself:hugesmile:

[muchadoaboutnothing]

JJ is a fine one to talk. Pot and kettle spring to mind. Let's not forget that JJ threw (or so he says) the 'Save and Replace' Task with Caoihme. Where was his committment to a task? I don't think he threw that 'S&R' task. Upon realising he was up against a woman he thought there was a chance that he might lose. So to save face (when Coimhe won the task) it was easy for JJ to say he threw it.

[red]

But he is the only one banging on about doing things for the group,so you see he aint so bothered himself:hugesmile:

he's a hypocrite. too bad he cant see that, he's too thick :(

[chuff me dizzy]

No, Mario has 'moved away' beause Ben doesn't fancy him.

Ben didn't drag him in, Mario constantly offered to stick up for him, as he did with Ife.

Simple as that.

No you are wrong ,he sought Mario out if he knew he had dropped a goolie for him to defend him

[chuff me dizzy]

agreed! if they think JJ was aggresive god help them! :joker:

Not ONCE has he been remotly threatening ,not once as he been violent,thrown anything about ,booted stuff about ,hes gobby ...so what ? hardly rime of the century is it ,some folks are SO pathetic

[Angus]

Not ONCE has he been remotly threatening ,not once as he been violent,thrown anything about ,booted stuff about ,hes gobby ...so what ? hardly rime of the century is it ,some folks are SO pathetic

You seem to have forgotten he got a warning from BB for unacceptable behaviour:rolleyes:

[joeysteele]

serensilver,never mind what I say but really, do yourself some real good and read and absorb the posts left by jedwardfever and kazanne particularly,do what JJ cannot and read them,absorb them and learn from them.
Remove from your eyes the rose coloured glasses you look at the vile tempered,woman hating John James with and sort out your selective memory too.
BEN never insults, he states his case in a reasoned and articulate way,how he hasn't up to now really blown his top with JJ shows his strength of character and understanding in the midst of totally unfair and paranoiac barracking from the likes of John James.
The real reason though that Ben doesn't need to lose his temper and resort to insults etc,is because he has right on his side, his analysis and debate are usually totally correct.
John James is a troublemaker and a rather nasty and unsavoury one at times too.

[Mystic Mock]

:wavey: oh right so it wasnt just JJ like you made out in your post? so he didnt fail the task they all did!

he still done it yet you germ fans are making out he didnt.

[chuff me dizzy]

You seem to have forgotten he got a warning from BB for unacceptable behaviour:rolleyes:

Only because she milked it for all it was worth ,and it was universal on here that he had been badly treated

[joeysteele]

He got the warning because BB from the footage realised that JJ had used inappropriate behaviour and force to drag her along the ground,they further noted that she had requested him to stop but he didnt,they also found that JJ ahd also ignored Mario when he got involved and also he continued to use the physical force even while Mario was trying to free her.
That is why he got the warning,he should have had many more by now,what he did, and I didn't like SUNSHINE,but what he did was very close to an assault,and if anyone wasd ragging a female person I knew as he was then and she was yelling stop,I would have had to step in and use force to remove him from her.If you who are defending him against her on this matter are for real then I feel sorry for you.HE was 100% wrong and really he should have been thrown out for it,it can never be right to put your hands on someone when they tell you to stop or not to.He is arotten piece of work with massive problems and needs help so he should be forced to leave to get that help before he injures himself or someone else.

[serensilver]

serensilver,never mind what I say but really, do yourself some real good and read and absorb the posts left by jedwardfever and kazanne particularly,do what JJ cannot and read them,absorb them and learn from them.
Remove from your eyes the rose coloured glasses you look at the vile tempered,woman hating John James with and sort out your selective memory too.
BEN never insults, he states his case in a reasoned and articulate way,how he hasn't up to now really blown his top with JJ shows his strength of character and understanding in the midst of totally unfair and paranoiac barracking from the likes of John James.
The real reason though that Ben doesn't need to lose his temper and resort to insults etc,is because he has right on his side, his analysis and debate are usually totally correct.
John James is a troublemaker and a rather nasty and unsavoury one at times too.


Why should i read what other people have put and "learn from them":rolleyes: thats only their opinion! and i have mine! in my eyes JJ was right he wasnt aggressive he said what he wanted to! Ben asked him what the problem was so he told him! I didnt say Ben blew his top he always does that poor poor im right thing!:sleep:
Maybe you should remove the rose tinted glasses and realise that ben is a selfish moaner! :sleep:

[jjj2]

When Ben claimed the nest was his sanctuary and people should give him quite time in it ?? wtf ?? WHO does he think he is ?one of the master race i suppose

[Zippy]

He got a warning for violently attacking a fragile innocent woman.

He should be held in a cage in the garden. Like a wild large monkey.

[Julesuk]

He thinks he has the right, sick to death of people excusing bens behaviour in the house, so what if they lost the task they were being asked to do a task to win back the suitcase of someone that only considers himself. Hast thou all forgotten how he made Dave do his wrath of the tree task because he refused to carry on with it. Why dont people get off of JJ's case I dont think he is at all agressive and definitely not a bully there are no bullies in the house. I'm just sick of BB playing up to Ben and giving him his 5 min of fame every friday night.

[serensilver]

He got a warning for violently attacking a fragile innocent woman.

He should be held in a cage in the garden. Like a wild large monkey.

:joker: he hardly violently attacked a fragile woman they just had a argument :nono: if he was that bad he would have had to leave as big brother does not tollerate.

He had one warning weeks ago and thats all

[serensilver]

He thinks he has the right, sick to death of people excusing bens behaviour in the house, so what if they lost the task they were being asked to do a task to win back the suitcase of someone that only considers himself. Hast thou all forgotten how he made Dave do his wrath of the tree task because he refused to carry on with it. Why dont people get off of JJ's case I dont think he is at all agressive and definitely not a bully there are no bullies in the house. I'm just sick of BB playing up to Ben and giving him his 5 min of fame every friday night.


well said Julesuk :wavey:

[joeysteele]

Wekk screensilver you can like John James all you like but if as you say you think he was right in all he sadi and did last night then he also insulted YOU, and the public watching, what were his words, F... the public, I don't give a f... about the public.Charming man I am sure then.
I will add my final comment as to John James and I wish I could say it to him personally. '' John James only 2 weeks ago, spending their money and taking their time to vote for you, the public you don't give a f... about kept you in the BB house,however since you dont' give a f...about the public then I certainly don't give a f... about you either so buzz off back to Australia and take your filthy mouth and filthu temper with you''.
You screensilver dont like the comments on here because most people can now see how nasty and rotten JJ is. You see in decent society a really selfish person is someone who when everyone else is getting on okay, either at home, at a function or even a meeting,but they then cause disruption and conflict to the point where an argument ensues.That is a selfish person and JJ fits the bill 100% as to that.
Ben is not selfish in the real selfish sense, he will consider others, in the cougar task when Corin asked for Ben out first, BEN immediately said to Steve was he okay would he rather go out now and he'd Ben stay in ,far from selfish indeed.Ben looks out for himself more thats all,thats NOT being selfish in the real sense of the word.

[joeysteele]

OOPS serensilver, I keep getting your name wrong, how very selfish of me.My apologies.

[joeysteele]

Ben also does the right right thing becasuse he is usually right anyway unlike JJ who can only talk over people making no sense at all and repeating himself over and over,little wonder they cant show much of JJs arguments in the daytime highlights since it would either be full of bleeps or totally edited out due to his filthy language and delivery of it.
What an ambassador for Australia they must in the eords of Caimhe and Shabby be cringeing.The decent Australians anyway.

[serensilver]

OOPS serensilver, I keep getting your name wrong, how very selfish of me.My apologies.

:joker: i laughed when you got my name wrong i was like who's screensilver :joker: we will never agree regarding JJ i have my opiniions and you have yours. :wavey:

[alc09]

No you are wrong ,he sought Mario out if he knew he had dropped a goolie for him to defend him
That's bollocks and you know it is, I'm sure most people on here can remember Mario going out of his way to stick up for Ben earlier in the series. He did the same with Ife.