Channel 4 will make JJ look good even thought the tosser was wrong

[tpau21]

:(:(

[vesavius]

He was wrong for arguing for mutual support and cooperation in tasks that benefit the whole group?

or are we talking about something else?

[chuff me dizzy]

your joking ? it will be the other way round

[Claymores]

He was correct - and nice enough not to throw the task there and then to demonstrate to Benny-boy the consequences of not 'taking one for the team'

[Kore]

your joking ? it will be the other way round

This!

JJ won the debate with Ben last night, wont be surprised if Ben was shown to be the victorious one after the editing by C4 :(

[chuff me dizzy]

This!

JJ won the debate with Ben last night, wont be surprised if Ben was shown to be the victorious one after the editing by C4 :(

You could put your mortgage on it

[Kore]

You could put your mortgage on it

Then Mojo, Flame and the rest of the bore lovers will be on here like a shot starting a new thread every 5 seconds.

[stoney]

can anyone point any team task that ben has not tried in yet, unlike JJ who "doesn't know how to do a posh accent"
also when has he EVER cost them a food budget like JJ did?

[stoney]

He was wrong for arguing for mutual support and cooperation in tasks that benefit the whole group?

or are we talking about something else?

his general point was ok, altho I'm still waiting for anyone to point out any team tasks where Ben didnt try,altho a little over the top imo.

But he was totally wrong in the over aggressive repitive drivel he sprouted

[vesavius]

his general point was ok, altho I'm still waiting for anyone to point out any team tasks where Ben didnt try,altho a little over the top imo.

But he was totally wrong in the over aggressive repitive drivel he sprouted

I'm no JJ supporter in general :)



I think JJ's main point, and what really winds him up, though is that Ben openly sits there and says he won't do the tasks if they are too hard or don't appeal to him, no matter what is at stake for the others (food, clothes etc).

Like I say, I am no JJ fan, but I fully get why this p1sses him off about the guy. In a 24/7 pressure cooker environment where they all rely on each other for more then the very basics I would hate to have to rely on Ben to return my effort, especially when he repeatedly says screw you, I'm here for me.

[MeMyselfAndI]

jj was in the right

[Mystic Mock]

He was correct - and nice enough not to throw the task there and then to demonstrate to Benny-boy the consequences of not 'taking one for the team'

but john james werent talking in a posh voice neither was dave so the task has been failed due to john james ego.

[Josy]

but john james werent talking in a posh voice neither was dave so the task has been failed due to john james ego.

Corin was actually the first to speak in her normal voice, only a little while after the task started........

[Mystic Mock]

can anyone point any team task that ben has not tried in yet, unlike JJ who "doesn't know how to do a posh accent"
also when has he EVER cost them a food budget like JJ did?

thank you for pointing it out.

[stoney]

I'm no JJ supporter in general :)



I think JJ's main point, and what really winds him up, though is that Ben openly sits there and says he won't do the tasks if they are too hard or don't appeal to him, no matter what is at stake for the others (food, clothes etc).

Like I say, I am no JJ fan, but I fully get why this p1sses him off about the guy. In a 24/7 pressure cooker environment where they all rely on each other for more then the very basics I would hate to have to rely on Ben to return my effort, especially when he repeatedly says screw you, I'm here for me.


EDIT, also ves when was the last time Ben has actually said anything like that beofre JJ's attack last night.


Yep JJ SAYS this ves but can you point to ANY team task where Ben has not tried cos I cant.
But JJ has cost them a food budget and not tried by his own admission in the S+R task


Altho i can point out that JJ did not try even slightly in the team TOT task last night( cos he didnt know how to do a posh accent was his excuse). Maybe it was because that tight wig was cutting off the blood supply to his brain as JJ repetitvely claimed last night

[-Sue-]

He was correct - and nice enough not to throw the task there and then to demonstrate to Benny-boy the consequences of not 'taking one for the team'
:hugesmile::hugesmile::hugesmile:

[Visage]

Corin was actually the first to speak in her normal voice, only a little while after the task started........

That doesn't count in some peoples opinions though.

[Claymores]

Yep JJ SAYS this ves but can you point to ANY team task where Ben has not tried cos I cant.

Think of stick to the wall task which didn't even involve quiffhead any effort.

What is your definition of trying? Starting for a wee bit then wimping out?

[Kore]

I'm no JJ supporter in general :)



I think JJ's main point, and what really winds him up, though is that Ben openly sits there and says he won't do the tasks if they are too hard or don't appeal to him, no matter what is at stake for the others (food, clothes etc).

Like I say, I am no JJ fan, but I fully get why this p1sses him off about the guy. In a 24/7 pressure cooker environment where they all rely on each other for more then the very basics I would hate to have to rely on Ben to return my effort, especially when he repeatedly says screw you, I'm here for me.

Very good comment even though your not a JJ fan, that is spot on

[Fuzzylogic]

Channel 4 will make JJ look good even thought the tosser was wrong

Why would they do that? DO you also beleive the US government was responsible for 911.

Neither of them were right or wrong last night, it was not that kind of argument, it was about personal beliefs that opposed each other. There was never going to be a winner or loser in that argument.

[Mystic Mock]

Corin was actually the first to speak in her normal voice, only a little while after the task started........

actually it was dave and john james i heard not corin.

[Lex]

RATBOY IS A TOSSER!.....And had NO point to make!!

It was just an all-out assault on a major competitor!!

Sneaky little turd would'nt dare do it to a more street-wise competitor!

He's just a coward and a whimp-bully!! :nono:

[Kore]

actually it was dave and john james i heard not corin.

I hard corin clearly im sure..

[Visage]

actually it was dave and john james i heard not corin.

Just because you didn't hear Corin, doesn't mean it wasn't her:conf:

[Mystic Mock]

I hard corin clearly im sure..

i know dave failed first and then i heard john james afterwards but it could have been corin before john james.

[stoney]

Think of stick to the wall task which didn't even involve quiffhead any effort.

What is your definition of trying? Starting for a wee bit then wimping out?

but him stopping caused Mario to WIN the task.

also try going out and buying a roll of Gaffa tape.
then wrap it round your lung area ( I know his shoulders were loose but his lungs were not) and see how much you like it. Its not too good ( yes I have tried it we play with gaffa tape all the time at work altho dont try to stick your kids to the wall with it )

But he did at least try but not for long enough to win the physical task.
To NOT try would have been to not even put youself up for it

[chuff me dizzy]

can anyone point any team task that ben has not tried in yet, unlike JJ who "doesn't know how to do a posh accent"
also when has he EVER cost them a food budget like JJ did?

He had to stand there (nothing else) and be taped to a board ,he pulled it ,he had to do exercise with the gi ,he pulled it

[chuff me dizzy]

but him stopping caused Mario to WIN the task.

also try going out and buying a roll of Gaffa tape.
then wrap it round your lung area ( I know his shoulders were loose but his lungs were not) and see how much you like it. Its not too good ( yes I have tried it we play with gaffa tape all the time at work altho dont try to stick your kids to the wall with it )

But he did at least try but not for long enough to win the physical task.
To NOT try would have been to not even put youself up for it

Oh please .....ffs :sleep:

[Claymores]

but him stopping caused Mario to WIN the task.

What a hero he is - he wimped-out for the team :rolleyes:

You're just talking shyte mow

[stoney]

can you two task experts tell me how long someone must do a task till he fits into your "thats ok he is now trying time"?

He tried simply by volunteering to try to do it.

He doesn't do phisical very well so gave up when it became very uncomfortable.

i was actually shouting at the telly when Caoimhe and Ife were wrapping the gaffa round his lung area that they had to do his shoulders and crotch to win as he would have difficulty breathing simply cos we have played that sort of game before

[stoney]

What a hero he is - he wimped-out for the team :rolleyes:

You're just talking shyte mow

JJ has claimed that Ben's not trying will cost them food.

that has not happened.:sleep:

In the one task you claim he didnt try he actually won the task for mario unlike Jj's claim

next please:joker:

[vesavius]

can you two task experts tell me how long someone must do a task till he fits into your "thats ok he is now trying time"?



oh c'mon Stoney, you can tell a token effort as easily as the rest of us.

Even Ben dosent pretend he tries, in fact he openly declares he dosent and dosent want to.

I know he is hard to defend in this, but lets stay in the area of sensible defendable positions ;)

[BB_Eye]

I just hope the viewers see though his 'team player' bulls***. :rolleyes:

[stoney]

oh c'mon Stoney, you can tell a token effort as easily as the rest of us.

Even Ben dosent pretend he tries, in fact he openly declares he dosent and dosent want to.

I know he is hard to defend in this, but lets stay in the area of sensible defendable positions ;)

Ves, I am coming into that task from a position of knowledge. Honest.

I work in theatre and we play games with gaffa tape all the time. It really aint nice to have it taped tightly round your lungs like the girls had.

I have seen ben saying that once a good few weeks ago, apart from under attack from JJ.
What he has said, and all the others have actually done whether they have said so or not, is that he wasn't prepared to try too hard when its a task he knows he has no chance in
the foursome that had the laughing task, lasted about 30 mins or so
them all last night for the tot task
the not talking about noms so losing the luxury budget

did he put anyone else off when he volunteered to try the task.....nope
did he try to do it...yes.
ok not too well, especially if you dont like him, but it cant count as NOT trying at all as JJ claims

[rusticgal]

but john james werent talking in a posh voice neither was dave so the task has been failed due to john james ego.

JJ's point was that Ben will willingly fail a task at the expense of hot water/food for other HM's, if he doesnt WANT to do it... thats cos Ben is completely selfish.
Their task last night was to be completed then Ben would get his suitcase back..... but cos Ben doesnt do anything for anyone else in the house I think it was good that JJ made a point of failing the task so that Ben would realise what it feels like.... Ben expects people to do things for him but doesnt want to do things for other people.

Ben is a user... he will walk over anyone to get his way.

[stoney]

JJ's point was that Ben will willingly fail a task at the expense of hot water/food for other HM's, if he doesnt WANT to do it... thats cos Ben is completely selfish.
Their task last night was to be completed then Ben would get his suitcase back..... but cos Ben doesnt do anything for anyone else in the house I think it was good that JJ made a point of failing the task so that Ben would realise what it feels like.... Ben expects people to do things for him but doesnt want to do things for other people.

Ben is a user... he will walk over anyone to get his way.

now thats just total hypocrasy tho aint it.


It would be different if JJ had said so at the start rather than to just not try while lambasting another inmate for what, in JJ's high and mighty opinion, is not trying but all the while saying repeatedly that he, JJ, would NEVER EVER do that himself:nono:

But has Ben EVER willingly failed a task that cost the inmates either hot water or food cos I aint seen it:conf: