Ben defends Prince Harry's Nazi stunt!

[fingers]

He will defend ANY controversial happening, mentioning that in Austria and Germany people can go to prison over Nazi stunts, He thinks that is wrong as well! (on LF)

[Claymores]

Ben did say thet people like Goebels were not really Nazis, just misunderstood nationalists!

[Mystic Mock]

but nazi stunts aint hurting anybody are they?

[fingers]

Ben did say thet people like Goebels were not really Nazis, just misunderstood nationalists!

I missed that, but it sounds like something he'd utter! Fu cking nutter!

[Boothy]

It's what makes Ben brilliant :laugh2:

[fingers]

but nazi stunts aint hurting anybody are they? That's like saying that the New Ecstatics are a fun loving group of like minded lunatics!

[fingers]

It's what makes Ben brilliant :laugh2:

Whatever floats your boat!

[Claymores]

I missed that, but it sounds like something he'd utter! Fu cking nutter!

It was a while back when Ben had his theories about why we should never have participated in WWII

[alc09]

Got to love Ben. :joker:

[Claymores]

but nazi stunts aint hurting anybody are they?

Go to Israel and try that line.

[-Sue-]

but nazi stunts aint hurting anybody are they?
say that in a synagogue....:nono:

[Angus]

It was a while back when Ben had his theories about why we should never have participated in WWII

Theories shared by millions of revisionists. So he's not allowed an opinion now is he? At least he has one, unlike most of the thickos in there.

[ElProximo]

He will defend ANY controversial happening, mentioning that in Austria and Germany people can go to prison over Nazi stunts, He thinks that is wrong as well! (on LF)

I agree with him and I think its more a case of PC people and media-hype turning ANY idea into something controversial even when it is not.

[fingers]

I agree with him and I think its more a case of PC people and media-hype turning ANY idea into something controversial even when it is not.
Whatever

[GiRTh]

Theories shared by millions of revisionists. So he's not allowed an opinion now is he? At least he has one, unlike most of the thickos in there.Ben IS one of the thicko's

[Hero1]

People are way too sensitive, while Israel are blowing bits out of the Palestinians, no one is allowed to talk about the Nazi's fancy dress or clarifications of nationalities, a little prespective people.

[brian3]

If another HM said this it would be a diffrent story. But Ben sometimes says funny things. So thats ok

[fingers]

Wouldn't suprise me if he was in favour of turning Dachau into a holiday camp.

He probably considers the massacre of 7,000 men women and children at Srebreniza just a minor blip on the road to Democracy.

[Claymores]

Theories shared by millions of revisionists. So he's not allowed an opinion now is he? At least he has one, unlike most of the thickos in there.

People are certainly allowed daft opinions - that's why I don't diss Benites per se for liking him - just the extremes of lying/invention when it is portrayed by certain of them as truth on the forum

[Kazanne]

aw,I love Prince Harry,he's a cutie

[Angus]

He will defend ANY controversial happening, mentioning that in Austria and Germany people can go to prison over Nazi stunts, He thinks that is wrong as well! (on LF)

Oh dear, another sensationalist thread about your pet obsession, Ben.:pat: As usual no context, no transcript, just YOUR opinion thrust onto the forum.

Ben can defend any opinion he wants; at least he doesn't try to curry favour with the public by mouthing platitudes. On this one I happen to agree with Ben - the PC brigade and their sanctimonious condemnation of what was merely an adolescent prank was laughable because of the media OTT over-reaction.

What Ben haters really can't stomach is that he is still riding high in the popularity stakes despite their best efforts to smear his character:rolleyes:

[Hero1]

Wouldn't suprise me if he was in favour of turning Dachau into a holiday camp.

He probably considers the massacre of 7,000 men women and children at Srebreniza just a minor blip on the road to Democracy.

Oh please, stop being so melodramatic.

[fingers]

Oh dear, another sensationalist thread about your pet obsession, Ben.:pat: As usual no context, no transcript, just YOUR opinion thrust onto the forum.

Ben can defend any opinion he wants; at least he doesn't try to curry favour with the public by mouthing platitudes. On this one I happen to agree with Ben - the PC brigade and their sanctimonious condemnation of what was merely an adolescent prank was laughable because of the media OTT over-reaction.

What Ben haters really can't stomach is that he is still riding high in the popularity stakes despite their best efforts to smear his character:rolleyes:

Watch the LF!

[Angus]

Wouldn't suprise me if he was in favour of turning Dachau into a holiday camp.

He probably considers the massacre of 7,000 men women and children at Srebreniza just a minor blip on the road to Democracy.

And he probably eats babies for breakfast, and shags sheep at weekends:rolleyes: - Come on now:pat: You really have got the Ben hate bad haven't you:laugh:

[fingers]

Oh please, stop being so melodramatic.

What's melodramatic about that. You probably think that Slobbo Milosevic was a hero and Radovan Karadzic just a poor misguided philanthropist!

[Claymores]

And he probably eats babies for breakfast, and shags sheep at weekends:rolleyes: - Come on now:pat: You really have got the Ben hate bad haven't you:laugh:

fingers is an equal opportunities hater - hates them all and calls a spade a spade. If Ben ic coming up more frequently than most then that's just an indicator he is indeed a serious twat.

[fingers]

And he probably eats babies for breakfast, and shags sheep at weekends:rolleyes: - Come on now:pat: You really have got the Ben hate bad haven't you:laugh:

I honestlly had no idea of his sexual escapades at weekends!

[fingers]

fingers is an equal opportunities hater - hates them all and calls a spade a spade. If Ben ic coming up more frequently than most then that's just an indicator he is indeed a serious twat.

I don't play favourites and unlike some I am not sycophantic.

[Shasown]

Of course Ben is going to defend Prince Harry, they are both upper class ginger tossers full of their own self importance with very little idea about life in the real world.

Birds of a Feather and all that what ho, Pip Pip, Tally Ho old boy.

[ElProximo]

say that in a synagogue....:nono:

I'm not sure why you think Jews in a Synagogue would be opposed to mocking Hitler and Nazis at costume parties?
I haven't asked anyone in a Synagogue but I can tell you that there is a long list of Jewish Hollywood writers, actors and film companies that were not only dressing up as mock Nazis but investing in the films and presenting them to the public.
You could just start with 'The Great Dictator' where legendary Charlie Chaplin wears mock Nazi costumes. From there check out uber-Jewish synagogue member Mel Brooks Films.

I'm all for mocking Nazis. Seems a lot of Hollywood Jews are too. I agree with them and Prince Henry and now Ben.

Why are you opposed to mocking Nazis?
Fear of offending them?

[fingers]

I'm not sure why you think Jews in a Synagogue would be opposed to mocking Hitler and Nazis at costume parties?
I haven't asked anyone in a Synagogue but I can tell you that there is a long list of Jewish Hollywood writers, actors and film companies that were not only dressing up as mock Nazis but investing in the films and presenting them to the public.
You could just start with 'The Great Dictator' where legendary Charlie Chaplin wears mock Nazi costumes. From there check out uber-Jewish synagogue member Mel Brooks Films.

I'm all for mocking Nazis. Seems a lot of Hollywood Jews are too. I agree with them and Prince Henry and now Ben.

Why are you opposed to mocking Nazis?
Fear of offending them?

Whatever!

[Kazanne]

I don't play favourites and unlike some I am not sycophantic.

Nicking my word again eh? I dont know how unoriginal

[brian3]

I'm not sure why you think Jews in a Synagogue would be opposed to mocking Hitler and Nazis at costume parties?
I haven't asked anyone in a Synagogue but I can tell you that there is a long list of Jewish Hollywood writers, actors and film companies that were not only dressing up as mock Nazis but investing in the films and presenting them to the public.
You could just start with 'The Great Dictator' where legendary Charlie Chaplin wears mock Nazi costumes. From there check out uber-Jewish synagogue member Mel Brooks Films.

I'm all for mocking Nazis. Seems a lot of Hollywood Jews are too. I agree with them and Prince Henry and now Ben.

Why are you opposed to mocking Nazis?
Fear of offending them?

Who says they where mocking them?

[Kazanne]

Whatever!

:joker::joker::joker:lost for words thats not like you:xyxwave:

[fingers]

Nicking my word again eh? I dont know how unoriginal

You only claim it is being "nicked" because it applies to you in particular!

[Angus]

What's melodramatic about that. You probably think that Slobbo Milosevic was a hero and Radovan Karadzic just a poor misguided philanthropist!

What's all this "you probably think" or "Ben probably thinks" crap? What psychic powers do you possess that empower you to extrapolate an opinion on an entirely different issue from what a FM or HM says?

[Kazanne]

You only claim it is being "nicked" because it applies to you in particular!

Exactly:joker:

[Angus]

If I remember correctly The Producers ran for quite a while on Broadway and in the West End and it was FULL of blokes dressed up as nazis goose-stepping across the stage. I didn't hear of any campaigns to get it closed down, but poor old Prince Harry JUST because he's who he is was condemned to kingdom come for going to a birthday bash for a few hours in a nazi costume. So the ***** What! Get over it.

[Mystic Mock]

People are way too sensitive, while Israel are blowing bits out of the Palestinians, no one is allowed to talk about the Nazi's fancy dress or clarifications of nationalities, a little prespective people.

the palestinians started it on israel first.

[Kazanne]

What's all this "you probably think" or "Ben probably thinks" crap? What psychic powers do you possess that empower you to extrapolate an opinion on an entirely different issue from what a FM or HM says?

Angus ,fingers dusted off her crystal ball and can see in the future,nice work if you can get it,:joker:

[ElProximo]

Who says they where mocking them?

Good point. We will never really know if Mel Brooks was mocking Nazis or not. Unless we can get proof and signed statements?
Thanks for pointing that out. I never thought of it that way.

[Claymores]

the palestinians started it on israel first.

I don't know whether to laugh or cry.

You do realise that Palestine was Palestine long before the Jewish Community re-settled there following the Holocaust? You do realise that Israel's first Prime Minister was a well-known terrorist who had forcibly taken over the country by killing many Palestinians?

[Mystic Mock]

I don't know whether to laugh or cry.

You do realise that Palestine was Palestine long before the Jewish Community re-settled there following the Holocaust? You do realise that Israel's first Prime Minister was a well-known terrorist who had forcibly taken over the country by killing many Palestinians?

actually it was israels.

[Claymores]

actually it was israels.

Your post makes much sense - honest

[GiRTh]

If I remember correctly The Producers ran for quite a while on Broadway and in the West End and it was FULL of blokes dressed up as nazis goose-stepping across the stage. I didn't hear of any campaigns to get it closed down, but poor old Prince Harry JUST because he's who he is was condemned to kingdom come for going to a birthday bash for a few hours in a nazi costume. So the ***** What! Get over it.The original film drew a number of negative reviews with the tasteless content being the main focus of the criticisms. Look them up if you dont believe me. The fact that it had a Jewish writer and director saved it from more criticism.

On topic, for once I agree with Ben. Harry wearing the Nazi garb was nothing more than a teenage prank.

[Livia]

I've been to fancy dress parties where people have come as Nazi officers. It was meant as a joke and people took it that way. Of course, none of them were royal princes so no one blew it out of all proportion. Incidentally, before we get into the whole "tell it to Isreal" question, I myself come from a long line of Red Sea Pedestrians.

[chuff me dizzy]

Im not a Ben fan ,far from it ,but I too defend Harrys right to dress up for a fancy dress party in anything he chooses to

[Livia]

actually it was israels.

You couldn't be more wrong. Spend a little time looking into it then come back and say... sorry, I was mistaken.

[Angus]

The original film drew a number of negative reviews with the tasteless content being the main focus of the criticisms. Look them up if you dont believe me. The fact that it had a Jewish writer and director saved it from more criticism.

On topic, for once I agree with Ben. Harry wearing the Nazi garb was nothing more than a teenage prank.

I don't need to look it up, I saw the original film by Mel Brooks (who is Jewish) and took it for what it was, a satirical pisstake of the nazis. Only humourless a*seholes would take it for anything else. It might have got negative reviews, but the film was a MASSIVE hit, long before it ever got to the stage.

Using your reasoning about the play having a Jewish writer and director, then Ben should be allowed his opinion more than most since he himself is JEWISH.

[Angus]

You couldn't be more wrong. Spend a little time looking into it then come back and say... sorry, I was mistaken.

The state of Israel only came into being in 1948, but the jews have always regarded the land occupied by the Palestinians as "the promised land" that was promised to the descendants of Jacob (the Jews) by God. To Jews, Israel is the promised land and they will NEVER give it up. They view the Palestinians as squatters so I can't see peace breaking out any time soon.

[Livia]

I don't need to look it up, I saw the original film by Mel Brooks (who is Jewish) and took it for what it was, a satirical pisstake of the nazis. Only humourless a*seholes would take it for anything else. It might have got negative reviews, but the film was a MASSIVE hit, long before it ever got to the stage.

Using your reasoning about the play having a Jewish writer and director, then Ben should be allowed his opinion more than most since he himself is JEWISH.

I don't know a jew who doesn't find The Producers funny. I've seen the film and the stage version. I think most Jewish people take stuff in good humour if that's the way it's meant. It probably got negative reviews from Gentiles being outraged on our behalf.

Love Mel Brooks, incidentally... "Mr Brooks, what do you say to the people who accuse you of bad taste?" "I say up yours!"

[Livia]

The state of Israel only came into being in 1948, but the jews have always regarded the land occupied by the Palestinians as "the promised land" that was promised to the descendants of Jacob (the Jews) by God. To Jews, Israel is the promised land and they will NEVER give it up. They view the Palestinians as squatters so I can't see peace breaking out any time soon.

I know all this. How many more times have I got to say I'm a Jew?! LOL...

You know what'd be good? If everyone realised that their time on Earth is finite and they'd all be so much happier if they learned to play nicely and share.

[GiRTh]

I don't need to look it up, I saw the original film by Mel Brooks (who is Jewish) and took it for what it was, a satirical pisstake of the nazis. Only humourless a*seholes would take it for anything else. It might have got negative reviews, but the film was a MASSIVE hit, long before it ever got to the stage.

Using your reasoning about the play having a Jewish writer and director, then Ben should be allowed his opinion more than most since he himself is JEWISH.You acted like no one batted an eyelid when in fact the film received mainly negative reviews based on its tasteless content.

[Angus]

I don't know a jew who doesn't find The Producers funny. I've seen the film and the stage version. I think most Jewish people take stuff in good humour if that's the way it's meant. It probably got negative reviews from Gentiles being outraged on our behalf.

Love Mel Brooks, incidentally... "Mr Brooks, what do you say to the people who accuse you of bad taste?" "I say up yours!"


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=K08akOt2kuo

I defy anyone not to find this hilarious!

[Angus]

I know all this. How many more times have I got to say I'm a Jew?! LOL...

You know what'd be good? If everyone realised that their time on Earth is finite and they'd all be so much happier if they learned to play nicely and share.

Lol, it was really for the benefit of those FMs who don't seem to have a clue!

[Angus]

You acted like no one batted an eyelid when in fact the film received mainly negative reviews based on its tasteless content.

My point is that as usual the PC brigade took it upon themselves to be outraged on behalf of the Jewish people, when in fact it was a pisstake that denigrated and humiliated nazism, not promoted it.

[brian3]

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=K08akOt2kuo

I defy anyone not to find this hilarious!

There is a world of difference between a Mel Brooks film and Prince Harry acting like a twat. I dont think he set out to poke fun at anyone. Dont think he set out to offend either. He just did not think.

[Livia]

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=K08akOt2kuo

I defy anyone not to find this hilarious!

LOL... thanks for that haven't seen it for ages. Watched it all the way through. The way I see it, it's the jews making the Nazi party look like a bunch of ridiculous tossers.

[lynz]

Ben did say thet people like Goebels were not really Nazis, just misunderstood nationalists!

I do think that one would need to hear the entire conversation rather than snippets to understand what he is talking about, bearing in mind that Ben himself is Jewish. Far too often snippets of conversation on heard on BB and immediately with part of a sentence but no idea of the conversation a thread such as this is started

[ElProximo]

My point is that as usual the PC brigade took it upon themselves to be outraged on behalf of the Jewish people, when in fact it was a pisstake that denigrated and humiliated nazism, not promoted it.

If you ever get to watch 'Hollywoodism, Jews, Movies' he looks at some of these including 'The Great Dictator' and how it was NOT Jews who were concerned about mocking Nazis but some USA government people were worried about antagonizing Nazis the wrong way. (the doc explains the details more).

BTW.. one of the most outrageous and funniest things I ever saw was Sarah Silvermans season finale and her Nazi.

[Hero1]

If you ever get to watch 'Hollywoodism, Jews, Movies' he looks at some of these including 'The Great Dictator' and how it was NOT Jews who were concerned about mocking Nazis but some USA government people were worried about antagonizing Nazis the wrong way. (the doc explains the details more).

BTW.. one of the most outrageous and funniest things I ever saw was Sarah Silvermans season finale and her Nazi.

Hey, some of the funniest movies are and were made by the Jews, who dressed up and mocked them to the hills.

There was this great Jewish commic who used to do a mean Hitler, name on the tip of my tongue, just cannot get it out. DAMN.

[Hero1]

What's melodramatic about that. You probably think that Slobbo Milosevic was a hero and Radovan Karadzic just a poor misguided philanthropist!

Oh please, put a sock in it.

[Tom4784]

What was the context he said it in though? That's what is important here.

[Hero1]

I don't know a jew who doesn't find The Producers funny. I've seen the film and the stage version. I think most Jewish people take stuff in good humour if that's the way it's meant. It probably got negative reviews from Gentiles being outraged on our behalf.

Love Mel Brooks, incidentally... "Mr Brooks, what do you say to the people who accuse you of bad taste?" "I say up yours!"

That is it, Mel Brooke's!

[starry]

People are way too sensitive, while Israel are blowing bits out of the Palestinians, no one is allowed to talk about the Nazi's fancy dress or clarifications of nationalities, a little prespective people.

I hate Nazis and Zionists, both ethnic nationalists.

[Hero1]

I hate Nazis and Zionists, both ethnic nationalists.

I hate war full stop period, whether it is in Iraq, Afghanistan, Congo, Dafur, Indonisia, Palestine, Lebonon, Syria, Cambodia, Vietnam or wherever. I am against war and against anyone who sells arms, sells cluster bombs and who are the aggresors of the war in fear or lies.

No one who wages war is right.

[MrBlack]

I wonder if Caoimhe dressed up as an IRA terrorist, complete with boiler suit and balaclava, with IRA emblazoned on the front..what would the opinion be.

There is thread after thread on Caoimhe, everything from her hair, to her b/f to anything that she does in the house.

yet anyone who says anything about Bender is reprimanded.

Bender is a buffoon, he is a cross of Mr Bean with Boris Johnson.

[vesavius]

He will defend ANY controversial happening, mentioning that in Austria and Germany people can go to prison over Nazi stunts, He thinks that is wrong as well! (on LF)

Why would he give a crap about a Nazi fancy dress costume?

He has already made it clear he thinks that the Nazis should have been dealt with by non interference and appeasement in order to save money for the Empire.

Why would a little thing like that bother him?

[Alpertinator]

It is wrong that people can go to prison for dressing as a nazi in Germany and Austria.

And I defend Prince Harrys' nazi stunt. He went to a party dressed as a nazi, now anyone who developed the idea that he was a nazi supporter or sympathiser on account of this... is just... really not with it.

It was a joke, and I applaud him for it because it was brave and not only that, the Nazi party was made up of deranged and deluded people who were just an entire embarrasment simply by existing. They are funny. Funny because of how illogical their actions and beliefs were. Unfortunately there is a horrendous dark side to the existence of the nazi party, and for this anyone who genuinely is a nazi supporter or considers themself a nazi (Romper Stomper) should be punished. But you can't take coming to a fancy dress party as a nazi so seriously.

The guy was taking the piss out of the nazi party. He was taking the piss out of a group of people who deserve no sympathy and really deserve to be mocked and ridiculed.

This of course makes it seem as though I'm defending Ben! Which I really am not... no way.

[oddballmisfitsFTW]

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZGp0hCxSg98

:joker:

[LadyNay]

:cheer:.. interesting thread!