John James: "I couldn't give a ****** about the public"

[mike888]

So John James couldn't give a "****** about the public!!! Nice one John, you've just justified all the criticism and answered the question why you should get your arse back to Aus as quickly as possible!!! :xyxwave:

[hotleggs]

we txt too keep them in ,and when they win or when they come out they get money

most of that money is from our txts so he needs too shut up

[Jords]

We couldnt give a ****** about him too.

[ibook4113]

JJ said it in reference to ben. Ben had said that the public would decide who was right or wrong, JJ was saying that he didn't care because what he cares about is someone who helps out and isn't selfish. By ben saying 'let the public decide' it means he can forget the fact he is being selfish . JJ is just saying that Ben shouldn't be worrying about the public but about everyone else who has to suffer in the house when he is being selfish.

[LiquidGold]

we txt too keep them in ,and when they win or when they come out they get money

most of that money is from our txts so he needs too shut up

more fool the losers who vote to save him . or to win :joker: cause he's a tosser!!!!!! and doesnt deserve any fame or money all he deserves is a one way ticket back to aus :xyxwave:

[BLORN]

dont forget "i only care about my own enjoyment"
in other words "im only in here for myself"

[mike888]

JJ said it in reference to ben. Ben had said that the public would decide who was right or wrong, JJ was saying that he didn't care because what he cares about is someone who helps out and isn't selfish. By ben saying 'let the public decide' it means he can forget the fact he is being selfish . JJ is just saying that Ben shouldn't be worrying about the public but about everyone else who has to suffer in the house when he is being selfish.


That's the most pathetic excuse I've heard yet. He said "I couldn't give a ****** about the public" in a loud voice at least half a dozen times. Can't you understand English properly??? :pat:

[arista]

So John James couldn't give a "****** about the public!!! Nice one John, you've just justified all the criticism and answered the question why you should get your arse back to Aus as quickly as possible!!! :xyxwave:



He is under pressure
from crazy josie.

[mike888]

He is under pressure
from crazy josie.



Good excuse to boot the both of them out then... the sooner they get a room the better... :joker:

[GiRTh]

That's the most pathetic excuse I've heard yet. He said "I couldn't give a ****** about the public" in a loud voice at least half a dozen times. Can't you understand English properly??? :pat:He can understand English but can you understand the word 'context'? As has been explained, JJ said it in the context of highlighting Bens selfishness and Bens fixation with the public.

[Angus]

JJ said it in reference to ben. Ben had said that the public would decide who was right or wrong, JJ was saying that he didn't care because what he cares about is someone who helps out and isn't selfish. By ben saying 'let the public decide' it means he can forget the fact he is being selfish . JJ is just saying that Ben shouldn't be worrying about the public but about everyone else who has to suffer in the house when he is being selfish.

And Ben told JJ that his constant daily arguments are affecting the whole house in a really negative way, and that to me is far worse. I'm glad BB have shown JJ for the vile foulmouthed little **** he is. The majority of the voting public don't watch the LF only the HLs - by showing his foulmouthed rant BB have effectively let him go on self destruct.

[Angus]

He can understand English but can you understand the word 'context'? As has been explained, JJ said it in the context of highlighting Bens selfishness and Bens fixation with the public.

Ain't spin grand if you can turn it your way? Defend him all you like - He effectively told the public he's there for his own enjoyment alone and doesn't give a **** if they boo him to the heavens. So when he gets evicted, hopefully soon, he will get his wish and he can piss off back to his mummy.

[soA11]

im not being funny or anything, but why should He care?

[BlackOrWhite]

dont forget "i only care about my own enjoyment"
in other words "im only in here for whatever money i can get"

Money? I was under the impression that his Dad left him a substantial amount.

Anyway, who isn't in there for money? There is only one housemate who I can think of who has genuinely been in there for some kind of experience and he was a millionaire. I bet not one person in that house thought "It'll be a good experience" before thinking "If I win I'll get the £100k plus extras and if I don't I'll get a few bob for interviews".

[Blink_Me]

I wouldn't care about the public if I was in there.

[soA11]

dont forget "i only care about my own enjoyment"
in other words "im only in here for myself"

at the end of the day Every Man Is For Himself When He Goes Into The BB house, you only go into the bb house for your own experience, or to discover yourself or to win the money or to make something of yourself when you come out, that's how the world turns baby.

[mike888]

im not being funny or anything, but why should He care?



I'm not being funny either... but why should we keep Aussie twat in if he doesn't give a ****** about us??? :conf:

[oddballmisfitsFTW]

all of them are in there for themselves, thats the reason they go in

whether for the BB experience, to try and win for the money or for fame when they leave

I like the fact that JJ had the balls to say it and say it over and over. :thumbs:

[BB_Eye]

First admirable thing he's said to be fair.

[GiRTh]

Ain't spin grand if you can turn it your way? Defend him all you like - He effectively told the public he's there for his own enjoyment alone and doesn't give a **** if they boo him to the heavens. So when he gets evicted, hopefully soon, he will get his wish and he can piss off back to his mummy.Spin? LMAO The way you defend Ben to the hilt is hilarious . Even when he pathetically wouldn't give JJ his own shirt back. It was JJ's own shirt that Ben had borrowed. How could Ben have been right to take someone else property and then refuse to give it back?

JJ may not have put it eloquently but he was absolutely right in his assessment of Ben. Ben needs this much more than any HM this year and probably any in the history of the show. Ben will make the final, he'll probably win and his supporter will have been well and truly conned.

[mike888]

all of them are in there for themselves, thats the reason they go in

whether for the BB experience, to try and win for the money or for fame when they leave

I like the fact that JJ had the balls to say it and say it over and over. :thumbs:



That's just the problem... he thinks through them rather than his head!!!... :bawling:

[snookered]

Quantas.

Asap.

[mike888]

Quantas.

Asap.



:joker: :joker: :joker:

[Astrid]

He is nothing but a peroxide headed twit and keeps his ar*e booting, bit style.

[Angus]

I wouldn't care about the public if I was in there.

I doubt any of them gives a ***** about the public, but unless you're terminally thick you don't go off on a rant about how you don't give a ***** about the people who pay money to vote for you. And No, they're there to entertain US, not to enjoy their bloody selves at our expense.

[Angus]

Spin? LMAO The way you defend Ben to the hilt is hilarious . Even when he pathetically wouldn't give JJ his own shirt back. It was JJ's own shirt that Ben had borrowed. How could Ben have been right to take someone else property and then refuse to give it back?

JJ may not have put it eloquently but he was absolutely right in his assessment of Ben. Ben needs this much more than any HM this year and probably any in the history of the show. Ben will make the final, he'll probably win and his supporter will have been well and truly conned.

Now that's what I call the ultimate game show winner, and there was JJ thinking it was him:joker:

[Zippy]

We couldnt give a ****** about him too.

:thumbs:

[Patricia4]

Send the bugger back

[ibook4113]

Spin? LMAO The way you defend Ben to the hilt is hilarious . Even when he pathetically wouldn't give JJ his own shirt back. It was JJ's own shirt that Ben had borrowed. How could Ben have been right to take someone else property and then refuse to give it back?

JJ may not have put it eloquently but he was absolutely right in his assessment of Ben. Ben needs this much more than any HM this year and probably any in the history of the show. Ben will make the final, he'll probably win and his supporter will have been well and truly conned.

Exactly, how people support ben is truly shocking he is one of the most selfish housemates that has ever been in that house.

I doubt any of them gives a ***** about the public, but unless you're terminally thick you don't go off on a rant about how you don't give a ***** about the people who pay money to vote for you. And No, they're there to entertain US, not to enjoy their bloody selves at our expense.

That is what pretty much every housemate says they are there for so i hardly see why it is a problem for you.

Now that's what I call the ultimate game show winner, and there was JJ thinking it was him:joker:

How could be be the ultimate game show winner? Because he is selfish?

If people think that his selfish and condescending attitude is 'quirky' then i have lost alot of respect for the english public. Ben has the cheek to imply when he is being selfish that it is a choice anyone should have.?! WHAT? :devil: how is that right , or nice, or something someone should be liked for. If someone took one of my shirts without asking i would demand it back because they took it without my permission (and bare in mind ben said he would wash it, i highly doubt that happened, i have never seen ben do any work the house -- ever!). Why should he have JJs shirt just because he is Ben. It isn't fair. Ben's lifestyle is obviously one where he gets everything he wants from everyone else around him, and how people can like that is incredible.

[ange7]

another bs thread.
"**** the public" works for me. I don't want hms that suck up to the cameras and who are false and full of it. This crazy idea that because "we" pay them so they ought to kiss our @sses and act fake is a joke. If you want that then support Corin.

[erichardse10]

I think JJ has blown it somehow, truth be told I don't think he ever really stood a chance of winning, he is to unpredictable and tempremental!

[joeysteele]

The rules of BB always were that since this was a publicly shown series any language or behaviour that was deemed to be offensive to other housemates and/or to the viewing public would be considered inappropriate and would be dealt with as a serious matter by BB.
1) John James has already had a warning from BB as to his technical assault on Sunshine and the pool incident,he has not altered his ways at all still.
2) He deems Ben selfish for Ben caring what the public thinks and even trusting the public,the public will be paying for the prize money that if,God forbid, John James won he would walk off with,who does he thinks votes for or against the housemates and does he think they do it for free at no cost to themselves? JJ says he is there for himself to enjoy himself.
That is the most selfish thing anyone has ever said on BB and so if he is enjoying himself then he does enjoy causing trouble and creating arguments because he has had more of them in the first 5 weeks of any BB.
3) Never in the history of BB have I heard in any context a housemate rant so many times the massive disrespect JJ showed towards the public the other night,added to that the fact he used foul language to yell out, 'I dont give a f.. about the public', and again and again, 'f... the public', is in my opinion totally inappropriate behaviour.
He has shown his real colours and they are the darkest shaedes of black you can get but in the past housemates have been told to leave BB for far less and I hope all viewers offended by these foul remarks and massive insults to THEM, make the appropriate complaint to BB and Channel 4 too. I have already because for this alone and the fact he has already had a warning before for inappropriate behaviour to a housemate that was deemed to likely cause offence, now he is not only turning on the housemates,some selective ones he thinks he will get away with it to,but he has also turned his venom on the viewing public too,he is put in the BB house in a competition to see who wins the most support from the viewers to make them the winner,if that is not what he thinks it is all about then he should not be in there and after his vile rant against Ben and also towards the public too,I really think in light of already having had a warning, BB and Channel 4 should put him at least on ONE more argument disruption in the house warning and he will have to leave.
Myself if I was in charge whether I liked him or not, for his foul language rant against the viewing public I would be telling him to leave now,no more warnings.
He is a totally disrespectful and vile person, he also has shown that since he is in there for hinsefl only that in fact he is the real selfish person in the whole house and the only one who thinks the public have no meaning to the series whatsoever, what on earth does this arrogant nasty minded, vicious person think going up for the public vote is all about,is he totally stupid as well as being the likely most nasty housemate ever.
If he was not in any way good looking, he would be hated by near all the viewing public, John James certainly proves the saying, beauty is only skin deep,because he is not just rotten to the core, he is rotten FROM the core.

[joeysteele]

ange7,Really come on, he is really giving Australians a bad name over here if you admire that then I am sorry for you and your Country,What a visitor to the UK on a publicly interactive and publicly paid for series by them paying to text, call and contribute to the show,should do, is at least repesct that public whose living rooms he is going into every day.
To then say in ANY context f... those people, he doesnt give a f.. for those people is totally out of order and extremely insulting behaviour which begs the point why is he even on it then, would the Australian one not have him on theirs likely because they knew what he was like.Be fair if this was a British guy in Australia saying f... the Aussie public etc, you would be up in arms, he is a vile man and a very nasty tempered,disrespectful and selfish one too with a very foul mouth. OR pray not that this is so but do all Australians act like him???

[ange7]

ange7,Really come on, he is really giving Australians a bad name over here if you admire that then I am sorry for you and your Country,What a visitor to the UK on a publicly interactive and publicly paid for series by them paying to text, call and contribute to the show,should do, is at least repesct that public whose living rooms he is going into every day.
To then say in ANY context f... those people, he doesnt give a f.. for those people is totally out of order and extremely insulting behaviour which begs the point why is he even on it then, would the Australian one not have him on theirs likely because they knew what he was like.Be fair if this was a British guy in Australia saying f... the Aussie public etc, you would be up in arms, he is a vile man and a very nasty tempered,disrespectful and selfish one too with a very foul mouth. OR pray not that this is so but do all Australians act like him???
You went to some trouble to type this up so your owed a response.
I don't think he's giving Australia a bad name and frankly why would I care? hehe. If he was British and in BB AU and said the same there would be zero response because here in OZ we want hms to be themselves and NOT play to the cameras. You want him to suck up to the audience and be false that's your problem but it will and has resulted in rubbish hms getting in them boring us to death.

He isn't bad tempered. He lost it once with Rach because she openly talked about how she'd love to do the zoo and nutz mags plus she was FULLY into herself. If you like that sort of thing fine but JJ said what he thought.
Bad tempered with Corin? Nah...She started it with "I'm getting angry now!"... he laughed and continued with "are you lovin it". She followed him into the bedroom and lost her mind ( temper?) while he laughed in her face. Clearly Corin was trying to start one with JJ to make JJ look bad so as to save Nathan. Fail.
Bad tempered with SS?. Nah.. he didn't tell her off nor yell...SS went over the top their too.
Bad tempered with Josie? She has digs at him ALL the time behind his back and when Keeley asks "hey Josie make me laugh". Josie starts doing JJ impressions. Later he says "why did you have to say that... how about if I called you 98 chins?". That's the worst he got but Josie turns that into "oh you don't know all the horrible things he said!!!". BS
A lot of BS cliches come out of the mouths of Josie and Ben about JJ and are mindlessly parroted here on tib. Ben "oh he's very argumentative!". JJ while wearing a wig "oh I've got no circulation going to my head". Ben "oh well you've got no brain cells so that wouldn't do any harm!". Ben "Why is it that he keeps picking on me?" It's amazing that he keeps his cool when he gets trolled like that.

[stoney]

of course Mr gameplayer cares what the public think.:nono:

thats why he left his trousers on over his cougar pants and his constant anger at "your making me look bad on telly" at his weekly target.:joker:

he reminds us far too often that he doesn't care for it to be true:sleep:

[joeysteele]

You make me massively glad that I am British ange7 and not Australian and from your rather odd comments I have to say I can see why you like John James so much.
Housemates have to show their true selves, Ben gets pilloried for doing just that,but if you are really telling us that is JJ showing his real self then its a wonder any British person likes him at all,what an odd country Australia must be to encourage such disrespect, lack of decency,such vile tempered personality and a filthy mouth to go with it as to language,I am really glad I don't live there.

[ange7]

You make me massively glad that I am British ange7 and not Australian and from your rather odd comments I have to say I can see why you like John James so much.
Housemates have to show their true selves, Ben gets pilloried for doing just that,but if you are really telling us that is JJ showing his real self then its a wonder any British person likes him at all,what an odd country Australia must be to encourage such disrespect, lack of decency,such vile tempered personality and a filthy mouth to go with it as to language,I am really glad I don't live there.
"odd comments" which you side stepped. Bring an argument that backs your view.... parotting cliches doesn't cut it nor does "I am really glad I don't live there." This sounds desperate and trolly.... and your personal stance on whether you'd like to come to oz or not isn't that interesting.

[-Sue-]

A small part of what was said in the bedroom so what was said can be put in the right context
(Ben & Andy & Keeley in bedroom bitching/moaning about JJ)
ben ' this is a bit wierd for me as i dont really understand what this is all about'
keeley 'its all good benjamin'
ben 'johns going to be a total for the whole weekend he is you can see in the bloody hut thats why i called him unemployed
cos he was having a go at me constantly and im not gonna put up with it'
andy ' do you think he likes you'
ben 'yeah he does like me but he uses me im the only person that really stands up to him anyway'
andy 'I know how you feel keep you chin up you it will be alright'
(john wanders over to where Ben & keeley, & andy are in the bedroom)
ben ' you love this john dont you'
JJ ' the fact that ive got no circulation going into my head no not really'
ben ' you havent got my braincells so that wouldnt do any harm'
ben 'you love the fact that your taking the cronic out of me'
jj 'but benjamin you ask for insults cos you rip them outyou rip out worst insults than what I could ever imagine'
ben ' well thats because ive got more of an imagination..'
JJ ' no its because your ruder'
ben 'im..'
Jj' its not about imagination its just things that I would never dream of saying'
jj ' i dont care.. i dont care about the money i dont care about being on this show i dont care about being unemployedi dont care about those sort of things that you care about'
ben ' i dont care about those things either'
jj ' why did you bring it up?'
ben ' cos you are having a constant go at me and you always do'
jj ' i have to dress like you ben'
ben ' well why is that my fault, i cant explain it you would never understand but you are aggressive towards me and i dont know why'
jj ' you continue to tell me that im stupid that i have no braicells that im thick and now you've just had a pop at
the point taht im unemployed and you had a pop at my family and you hada pop at them whilst i was here and at what i eat
you had a pop at my dietry requirements
ben 'but thats because you dont leave me alone though john#
jj ' but for no reason you pop out these insults after insult after insult for no reason benny and you can't see it'
ben 'but let the public decide on that one'
jj ' the public what public what public what are you talking about ben'
(rachel speaks up trying to make peace between them both)
ben ' no no its nothing but what is...'
jj ' what do you mean let the public decide
jj' nonononono you keep bringing in the public what has the public im sick of you talking about the public I dont care about
the public i dont care about the program its not about the program maybe it is to some of yous but its not about the programme
to me'
rachel 'stop stop stop stop'
jj ' so if you wanna go out there and get your little job in america cos you wanna fake who you are as a person inside here thats your
problem but I dont wanna do that if you bring up about the public one time again i will never ever speak to you as long as I live
jj ' im not on this show for the public or for you or to make ayone else happy i am on the show for enjoyment for myself
not to make the public happy if thats constantly going through your mind which it is as you constantly bring it up
(piss take oice lol) huh.. let the public decide let the public decide
(video cuts to kitchen)
keeley ' ben is trying to reach out to john & john cannot see that'
(back to bedroom)
jj ' ben we have got a massive clash when it comes to team work either you avoid it because i know the way you are but I have got a massive problem with it massive problem..i cant stand it'
ben ' but I no not never like apart from when we have banta and i do maybe say things i shouldnt say but i ever go after you though that is true i never ever go after you'
jj ' the things that i do do not effect the group as far..'
ben (interrupts) ...'but they do'
jj ' as far as eating and showering'
ben (interrupts)..'eating and showering but your anger you change the atmostphere of the whole place like that (clicks fingers) and i
dont have a go at you over that ever'
jj ' i dont give a a flying fffffff what you do for the people outside the house i dont care i care about what youd o for people inside the house right here concerns me'
keeva 'if JJ is gonna say something ignore it laugh about it laugh it off dont be so sensitive abou it i know its difficult'
ben (interupts) ' but he would be sensitive if i needled him all the time and you know he would.. if I constantly followed him...

JJ ' i would just say it to yer face yeah'

[ange7]

Thanks FireTwilight ... just what the doctor ordered. Some facts :P
"keeley ' ben is trying to reach out to john & john cannot see that'
(back to bedroom)"
mahahahah!!!
ben (interrupts)..'but your anger you change the atmosphere of the whole place..."
lol really. Ben starts it off. Ben bitches about JJ all over the shop but because he starts his bitching with "oh a adore JJ but...." ten people think HE is not bring the atmosphere down. Ben has a go because he knows JJ will take the bait. JJ isn't going to take Ben's rudeness despite it giving Ben the opportunity to act like he himself is the victim.

[joeysteele]

I can see why you and JJ would get on like ahouse on fire ange7, its true a lot of what you say but JJ si very devious, he breaks people down by going on and on and on with the same thing until he gets them to carck and say something that annoys him then he goes in like a ferret down a rabbit hole to escalate the unpleasantness, bring the mood of the house down and cause maximum disruption.His anger is a dangerous one because he clouds it with a grin,a sracastic menacing grin.
I could have answered all your odder comments too but earlier in the series he told Josie she had a massive bottom.He loves to reel out the insults but its all to get the response he needs to start up a massive argument.
I will not waste my time on you any more,like JJ you cannot be reasoned with but I can see totally how you like him,you are as bad. NO compromise no real facts just a selective sequence of events.Even when faced with the f... the public issue,UNBELIEVABLE.

[-Sue-]

Thanks FireTwilight ... just what the doctor ordered. Some facts :P
"keeley ' ben is trying to reach out to john & john cannot see that'
(back to bedroom)"
mahahahah!!!
ben (interrupts)..'but your anger you change the atmosphere of the whole place..."
lol really. Ben starts it off. Ben bitches about JJ all over the shop but because he starts his bitching with "oh a adore JJ but...." ten people think HE is not bring the atmosphere down. Ben has a go because he knows JJ will take the bait. JJ isn't going to take Ben's rudeness despite it giving Ben the opportunity to act like he himself is the victim.
LOL i was sick of the Jj said this j said that threads so I sat through the HL show a few times and typed as much of it as I could lol
yeah the keeley comment ..grrrrrr

ahh yes Ben acted the victim the whole time..all about him.. no apology for Bens comments about JJ.. nothing nadda zip..spineless Barsteward if you ask me... I can't say Im a major fan of JJ but as a person I think he is great :hugesmile:

[-Sue-]

I can see why you and JJ would get on like ahouse on fire ange7, its true a lot of what you say but JJ si very devious, he breaks people down by going on and on and on with the same thing until he gets them to carck and say something that annoys him then he goes in like a ferret down a rabbit hole to escalate the unpleasantness, bring the mood of the house down and cause maximum disruption.His anger is a dangerous one because he clouds it with a grin,a sracastic menacing grin.
I could have answered all your odder comments too but earlier in the series he told Josie she had a massive bottom.He loves to reel out the insults but its all to get the response he needs to start up a massive argument.
I will not waste my time on you any more,like JJ you cannot be reasoned with but I can see totally how you like him,you are as bad. NO compromise no real facts just a selective sequence of events.Even when faced with the f... the public issue,UNBELIEVABLE.

JJ didnt go on and on he said what he had to Directly to Ben he didnt do what Ben does and bitch behind his back.. then play the pity me card when confronted...

Any arguement / fallout brings down the house mood but when things need o be said they should be said.. Ben could learn a lot from JJ .. eg. when someone is annoying him talk to them about it not to everyone else BUT them...

LOl how can my post not be reasoned with that was nearly exactly (give or take the odd comment that was unheard on the HL show or odd comment from people not including Ben & JJ) all that was said from the HL show?? lol surely typing was was actually said between the HMs is very factual lol.. doh!:joker: How about I post the link to the 4OD show so you can sit there and type out what was said too .. :joker::joker:

even when faced with what was actually said Ben can do no wrong can he lol..doh!

[joeysteele]

firetwilight conveniently leaves out the I dont give a f ... for the public, f... the public.
How strange to do that,the most interesting comment in it is Keeley saying that Ben is actually reaching out to John James but JJ cant see it.
EXACTLY thats how JJ gets in to so much bother,is his problem that he is terrified of ever being really close to anyone???
Also firetwilight includes that JJ doesnt care about the show, well then leave JJ.He 's sat in the diary room at least twice now saying he wanted to leave, the big drama when BB ahd to bring Josie in the diary room, he was going then like JEKYLL AND HYDE he got okay again, IF he doesnt care about the show, doesnt care about the public and is sick of not just Ben beacuse he has argued with over half the house,also its stated he said he didnt care about the money, then for goodness sake WHAT is he evem on the show for, why has he come all those miles to be on it,.If all thats true,LEAVE or for goodness sake BB send him out and end his misery once and for all.
What a pathetic excuse for a man he is!!!!!!!!!!!

[-Sue-]

firetwilight conveniently leaves out the I dont give a f ... for the public, f... the public.
How strange to do that,the most interesting comment in it is Keeley saying that Ben is actually reaching out to John James but JJ cant see it.
EXACTLY thats how JJ gets in to so much bother,is his problem that he is terrified of ever being really close to anyone???
Also firetwilight includes that JJ doesnt care about the show, well then leave JJ.He 's sat in the diary room at least twice now saying he wanted to leave, the big drama when BB ahd to bring Josie in the diary room, he was going then like JEKYLL AND HYDE he got okay again, IF he doesnt care about the show, doesnt care about the public and is sick of not just Ben beacuse he has argued with over half the house,also its stated he said he didnt care about the money, then for goodness sake WHAT is he evem on the show for, why has he come all those miles to be on it,.If all thats true,LEAVE or for goodness sake BB send him out and end his misery once and for all.
What a pathetic excuse for a man he is!!!!!!!!!!!

whaaaat you grizzling about now? the arguement went on for almost an hour an a half if not longer that was the start of what was on the HL show.. Im not typing it all I quoted what I needed to in regards to putting some persective as to why JJ said that.

Ben brings up the public JJ explained why he was mad at Ben making that comment.. what was needed in this thread was the 2nd side the story.. how it all kicked off...and why he said what he did.. rather than just everyone thinking that JJ hates the public..

when Jj said about the show (not caring) what he means he is in the house to have fun he wont play up or be someone he is not just for the show/ viewing public

Ben has said he wanted to leave also.. most of the HMs have lol

Your very angry arent you lol its a show relax.. :joker:

[joeysteele]

Your post omitted some very offensive and important comments and the foul languaged way he put them as to the viewing public firetwilight .that is why your selective account of the events does not stand up totally.
The point is this is an argument with BEN, and you highlight that because you dont like Ben but JJ has argued with lots of housemates,mainly the female ones, he really wants a massive argument with Josie but she knows when to say her piece and then closes the door, he hasnt yet worked out the new housemates but if he stays in arguments will come with them too. He wont with Mario, Steve or Dave because they would slap him down like a fly.
You can highlight the argument with Ben all you like but its not his first major argument and perhaps he needs to be looked at on all the arguments he has said, one resulting in a warning for inappropriate behaviour by BB.
As I also said earlier never in any BB series have I heard any housemate make such a verbal attack on the viewing public,never, I hope BB do take him to task for it because in truth he is the real NON TEAM PLAYER in that house
The public do ultimately overall decide who stays and goes,they also decide with their money and time who wins the show and gets a prize of money too,if he doesn't care about them then get out and go home,simple as that but JJ supporters cammot grasp that reasoning,he does not have to be in there if he doesnt really care,and if he does really care then who does that make the real game player.

[stoney]

JJ didnt go on and on he said what he had to Directly to Ben he didnt do what Ben does and bitch behind his back.. then play the pity me card when confronted...

Any arguement / fallout brings down the house mood but when things need o be said they should be said.. Ben could learn a lot from JJ .. eg. when someone is annoying him talk to them about it not to everyone else BUT them...

LOl how can my post not be reasoned with that was nearly exactly (give or take the odd comment that was unheard on the HL show or odd comment from people not including Ben & JJ) all that was said from the HL show?? lol surely typing was was actually said between the HMs is very factual lol.. doh!:joker: How about I post the link to the 4OD show so you can sit there and type out what was said too .. :joker::joker:

even when faced with what was actually said Ben can do no wrong can he lol..doh!

lol...what you forgot to add is that the "argument" lasted over an hour and JJ just repeated the same "points" again and again and again and again and again and again at various different levels of aggression and hate, especially his feck the public cr@p
JJ was not talking to Ben he was ranting towards him and telling us, the GBP who he really doesnt care about (my @rse), why he was the better man in his opinion than ben. He was not willing to let ben speak a lot of the time and simply ranted over him

[Saph]

all of them are in there for themselves, thats the reason they go in

whether for the BB experience, to try and win for the money or for fame when they leave

I like the fact that JJ had the balls to say it and say it over and over. :thumbs:

sounds like a bad excuse to like him :nono:

[-Sue-]

Your post omitted some very offensive and important comments and the foul languaged way he put them as to the viewing public firetwilight .that is why your selective account of the events does not stand up totally.
The point is this is an argument with BEN, and you highlight that because you dont like Ben but JJ has argued with lots of housemates,mainly the female ones, he really wants a massive argument with Josie but she knows when to say her piece and then closes the door, he hasnt yet worked out the new housemates but if he stays in arguments will come with them too. He wont with Mario, Steve or Dave because they would slap him down like a fly.
You can highlight the argument with Ben all you like but its not his first major argument and perhaps he needs to be looked at on all the arguments he has said, one resulting in a warning for inappropriate behaviour by BB.
As I also said earlier never in any BB series have I heard any housemate make such a verbal attack on the viewing public,never, I hope BB do take him to task for it because in truth he is the real NON TEAM PLAYER in that house
The public do ultimately overall decide who stays and goes,they also decide with their money and time who wins the show and gets a prize of money too,if he doesn't care about them then get out and go home,simple as that but JJ supporters cammot grasp that reasoning,he does not have to be in there if he doesnt really care,and if he does really care then who does that make the real game player.

Feel free to continue typing all of the final parts of Bens & JJs fight (taken from THE HL SHOW..remember we all have access to 4OD to hear it...

I don't think I need to repeat myself again...I clarified why I posted the above text from the show not my fault if you didnt bother to read my comments as to why I posted it

This has nothing to do with other arguements.. this is about the thread topic thats all ..please stay on topic..Im well aware of what you said earlier about in no other BB series.. lol trust me there has been so much worse in past years lol...I saw no point in rising to the bait on that one lol:joker:

[stoney]

when Jj said about the show (not caring) what he means he is in the house to have fun he wont play up or be someone he is not just for the show/ viewing public


Your very angry arent you lol its a show relax.. :joker:


but that is one of JJ's most hypocritical moments. Its ok for him to be himself in the house but if ben doesn't change JJ is going to , cant remember exactly what he said but it was something along the lines of attacking him over it whenever he wanted to (I know he means verbally tho)

but JJ only wants fun that he wants and brings all the rest down with his nasty aggression, selfishness and arguments

EDIT it all kicked off because JJ was annoyed that benny boy was centre story and not him. His face was tripping him from the moment Ben went to the diary room until he manage to get his rant in and start the fight over something he had LAUGHED about with ben uand the rest in the snug ( the unemployed jibe altho ben , like us knows that JJ aint unemployed( JJ actually said he wastoo rich to be or something in direct response at the time in the snug) he is living off daddies inheritance

[-Sue-]

lol...what you forgot to add is that the "argument" lasted over an hour and JJ just repeated the same "points" again and again and again and again and again and again at various different levels of aggression and hate, especially his feck the public cr@p
JJ was not talking to Ben he was ranting towards him and telling us, the GBP who he really doesnt care about (my @rse), why he was the better man in his opinion than ben. He was not willing to let ben speak a lot of the time and simply ranted over him

see post 44# I did say how long it went on for lol:joker:
Ben spoke.. looked away did his hair.. make no attempt to apologise or listen just kept the pity me 'why's everybody always picking on me' act up.. pathetic...

JJ the next day apologised and Ben.. continued to bitch about JJ for most of the day instead of talking things out with him.

TBH Jj is the better man he said to the face of the person he had a problem with told it like it is.. (Ben's way he would just Bitch in the nest bedroom seating area..garden for the rest of the show.. good roll model lol NOT lol) things got heated and JJ realised that and apologised.

[-Sue-]

but that is one of JJ's most hypocritical moments. Its ok for him to be himself in the house but if ben doesn't change JJ is going to , cant remember exactly what he said but it was something along the lines of attacking him over it whenever he wanted to (I know he means verbally tho)

but JJ only wants fun that he wants and brings all the rest down with his nasty aggression, selfishness and arguments
selfish?? lol oh yes the KING OF SELFISH *DRUMROLL* Ben tadaaa

[crit]

JJ doesnt give a **** about anyone but himself.

[stoney]

ben is selfish but so is JJ.
he wants everything his way from bedroom party time, that has now got later since ben and keeley asked the rest to use other rooms when playing late at night
JJ is also allowe dto say anything he wants in whatever manner he wants but then turns on people over the simplest of comments.

The "argument" had nowt to do with what JJ ranted about. He started by having a go at ben over ben using external factors (home/family etc) when Ben is making his bitchy comebacks and then JJ changed it to be all about Ben not trying in tasks and no longer caring about teh outside world.

But the real reason for the fight was JJ was in a foul mood and had been from his fight with ife and was annoyed at having to do teh Ben TOT task and to get himself some more airtime

[30stone]

He has the right attitude!?

What happens in the house is nothing to do with us unless big borther says we can vote on something.

He has a problem with ben ben has a problem with him thats for them to sort out not us.

[MargeryFan]

As much as I can't stand JJ and love Ben. This has been massively taken out of context.

[Angus]

http://www.facebook.com/#!/pages/GET-JOHN-JAMES-OUT-OF-BIG-BROTHER/129721063725366

[jojo10]

First admirable thing he's said to be fair.

Really, he knows how to work the public after watching BB so much in the past, and yes of course he does care about what the public think because he know that they are the 1s who are going to crown the winner. Also he goes on about people being in the house to further their career or are there to win it, so exactly why has he come all the way to the UK if he's not looking for the same thing.

He knows that the girls might fancy him and that us girls are the 1s that vote the most, so he has got a strong possibilty of winning, why else would he come here and onto BB, it's all about the money for every single person that comes onto BB and not just the experience, why else would half of them stay in the house when they are bored senseless or are missing the people on the outside world, again because of the money they could win or make after the show.

Also, the 1s that protest the most about not being concerned about what the public think about them or about winning, for eg, JJ, are the 1s that do really care about all that stuff, so no it's not the first admiral thing that JJ has said so far, he's just clever at playing the public, and knows what we like to hear.

Loving Ben ,Corin, Josie, Mario, Steve, Andrew, Keeley and Rachael.

[Claymores]

He has the right attitude!?

What happens in the house is nothing to do with us unless big borther says we can vote on something.

He has a problem with ben ben has a problem with him thats for them to sort out not us.

John has a problem with Ben's ubiquitous answer "well the public can decide". John has the problem that implies his actions are likely to mean 11 people are cold showering n eating sh1te for a week in the meantime.

What John essentially said is who gives an 'eff of the public vote if you make 11 other people suffer as a consequnce of your selfishness

[Kazanne]

A demitasse would fit his head like a sombrero.

[stoney]

but JJ has cost them a luxury budget whereas ben won them one tho so as usual JJ was talking repetitive cr@p

[Kaaarenn!]

Shows he's just being himself and who he wants to be and not being someone else who is trying to impress the public and it's no point going in there worrying about the public think because then you can't be yourself and enjoy your time in there.

[Claymores]

A crowd chant of "Get Ben Out" takes on a whole new meaning for the ridiculous queen!

[stoney]

Shows he's just being himself and who he wants to be and not being someone else who is trying to impress the public and it's no point going in there worrying about the public think because then you can't be yourself and enjoy your time in there.

utter bullshine.

he tells us toooooooo often that he doesn't care what the public thinks then uses it as a stick to attack ben.
He was looking for an argument last night and was walking around with his face tripping him becuse he was not centre stage. Ben was. So cue the lets attack ben , initially over a comment that JJ laughed about with Ben in the snug, over using things from outside in ben's bitchy insults. Then flip flop its now all about how ben never tries in any tasks and costs them hot water and food when ben has never cost them food but JJ has and how Ben is using BB to further HIS career something JJ would never do:sleep:.
But all thru his repetitive aggressive rant he was insisting that Ben had to change or he would go on attacking him over it but that he was going to be himself, altho he says he will try to control his aggression, cos he doesnt give a feck what anyone out here thinks of him( except for when he attacks others for making him look bad on tv[josie,ife,ss,ben,dave]):sleep:

[-Sue-]

utter bullshine.

he tells us toooooooo often that he doesn't care what the public thinks then uses it as a stick to attack ben.
He was looking for an argument last night and was walking around with his face tripping him becuse he was not centre stage. Ben was. So cue the lets attack ben , initially over a comment that JJ laughed about with Ben in the snug, over using things from outside in ben's bitchy insults. Then flip flop its now all about how ben never tries in any tasks and costs them hot water and food when ben has never cost them food but JJ has and how Ben is using BB to further HIS career something JJ would never do:sleep:.
But all thru his repetitive aggressive rant he was insisting that Ben had to change or he would go on attacking him over it but that he was going to be himself, altho he says he will try to control his aggression, cos he doesnt give a feck what anyone out here thinks of him( except for when he attacks others for making him look bad on tv[josie,ife,ss,ben,dave]):sleep:

Ben brought it up NOT JJ...:sleep:

[stoney]

ben mentioned it in passing.

JJ:bawling: made a big thing of it and has said so before too:sleep:

and he has used it to attack other inmates for making him look bad to the outside world

[-Sue-]

ben mentioned it in passing.

JJ:bawling: made a big thing of it and has said so before too:sleep:

and he has used it to attack other inmates for making him look bad to the outside world

oh look jackanory is on.. *wanders off*

[stoney]

oh look jackanory is on.. *wanders off*

why not just put me on ignore rather than your pathetic attempt at wit :conf:

or even better point out the errors in what i have said perhaps:joker:

[AusFan]

You make me massively glad that I am British ange7 and not Australian and from your rather odd comments I have to say I can see why you like John James so much.
Housemates have to show their true selves, Ben gets pilloried for doing just that,but if you are really telling us that is JJ showing his real self then its a wonder any British person likes him at all,what an odd country Australia must be to encourage such disrespect, lack of decency,such vile tempered personality and a filthy mouth to go with it as to language,I am really glad I don't live there.


I'm Australian and I think JJ can be an idiot sometimes but he also has qualities I like about him, the same goes for every HM who has had the balls to show at least some of their real personalities good and bad and not 'fake' their way through showing us nothing. Has it ever occurred to you that some viewers don't support the so called ''good'' housemates but support the HM's who go into the house to just be themselves?

Honestly it amazes me who some people get bent out of shape over something so completely out of context and then come on here with their propaganda trying to influence other people's opinions. And if you want to talk about offending people maybe you should look at yourself with the constant mentioning of JJ being Australian considering everything JJ has said or done has nothing to do with his nationality, i mean like Shabby or Nathen didn't have ''foul mouths''.

End of the day JJ is good for the show and as an Australian I'm proud of the
he way he atleast has gone in there and put himself out there for all to see, it's refreshing because our version of BB had its fair share of ''pot plants'' who added nothing to the show as well.

[Tessier Ashpool]

I'm Australian and I think JJ can be an idiot sometimes but he also has qualities I like about him, the same goes for every HM who has had the balls to show at least some of their real personalities good and bad and not 'fake' their way through showing us nothing.

It doesn't take balls to show your personality in the BB house:joker: It is eventually forced out anyway. John is definitely being himself, but would you want to hang around with that broken man in rl?

John's personality is sometimes likeable, but he clearly needs his arguments; he can't help himself. He needs them to blow off steam - release anxiety. Sometimes he attacks those he cares about (mommy Josie) because he can't control it:bawling:

Mostly, he selects an easy target who he (or a bitching buddy) finds in some way annoying, then tears them apart by repeatedly pointing out their most boringly obvious personal flaws (whilst projecting a few of his own onto them).:sleep: You can see how animated he becomes -high on his own bullsh-t:dance:. Then he walks away cleansed - next day he's like nout happened:angel:, the victim walks away feeling crappy for days/weeks:cloud:. Rinse and repeat.

JJ has let slip a few times that he thinks of himself as some selfless, anti-fame saint come to bring the fame hungry HMs down a peg or two. TBF, its a tried and tested tactic - even Mario hammed it up with Ben a few weeks ago. Normally the HM practicing this tactic will even convince themselves. Of course, once out of the house they will "give in" to the money hats:joker:.

Like anyone with a functioning brain believes the media circus that surrounds BB isn't a factor in him (or anyone else) entering BB:hugesmile:. Like he is above a few magazine deals or making himself a career :nono:.

Who is he to judge them? As Ben rightly pointed out 'the public will decide'.
BB is a popularity pageant for god's sake, and you don't have to be nice or team-spirited to be popular, as JJ and Ben both prove.

Only reason I'm targeting John is because his arguments are so constant that his whiney voice is effing up the show.:rolleyes:

[RosieRed xxx]

JJ was saying he is not going to act differently because of the public which is fine, Ben could have got up and walked away at any time, why say to dave "I cant bear ths" when he was there carrying on when he could have stopped it at any time?????

JJ was right Ben is not a team player and because he admits it he thinks its ok. However I did feel for Ben because he had just had a lovely time in the diary room and then went out to an arguement. Anyway they kissed and made up ages ago so shall we just forget it and move on??????

[AusFan]

Don't get wrong, I like Ben and am a bigger fan of Ben's then JJ's all things considering although I think Ben doing the standup ruined him a little because now he knows he's popular he thinks he can get away with anything now. It's good to hear if they made up because I think JJ sometimes forgets that Ben stood up for JJ during the opening few weeks.

I don't know if I could hang out with JJ but I think he would be alot more easygoing in the real world and not locked inside a compound 24/7. I agree he takes he anger out on people to ease the tension within himself (a very common trait) but that's just the way he is (same with Shabby) and the HM's are free to nominate him to leave the house if they can't live with him.

[Tessier Ashpool]

I don't know if I could hang out with JJ but I think he would be alot more easygoing in the real world and not locked inside a compound 24/7. I agree he takes he anger out on people to ease the tension within himself (a very common trait) but that's just the way he is (same with Shabby) and the HM's are free to nominate him to leave the house if they can't live with him.

True, it is a very common trait, in all of us to a lesser degree - I think John would be a lot more chilled in rl. That's BB's thing though - it strips away all the fluff and puts the HMs under extreme pressure. Brings out their darker behaviour ten fold. I guess it boils down to what kind of b-stard we can accept into our hearts:joker:

[-Sue-]

why not just put me on ignore rather than your pathetic attempt at wit :conf:

or even better point out the errors in what i have said perhaps:joker:

we all have opinions I just like mine better lol:joker:

[Braden]

John James is starting to turn into Freddie imo.

[Kazanne]

John James is starting to turn into Freddie imo.

But Freddie was nice,I see no comparison at all,unless you mean he was popular and is now on dodgy ground with the public

[ange7]

Ben brought it up NOT JJ...:sleep:
"he tells us toooooooo often that he doesn't care what the public thinks then uses it as a stick to attack ben." This isn't a contradiction Stoney hehe
lol firewire, Stoney thinks his made a point but actually made yours for you.

"to attack ben"
awwww poor Ben. The one who started with the unemployed dig and then "your so stupid JJ". And JJ defends himself but for that he's the attacker lol. Ben can't answer and won't apologise ( even in his usual mealy mouthed way) so JJ repeats it till Ben concedes. Obviously Ben won't admit to being wrong when it involves the "lesser" JJ which means more fun for us as Ben ummms and arrrs. Loved it.

[Julesuk]

the pure fact that some people have made the comments that they have show that they detest JJ and doesnt matter what happens they will always find negative in him. His a - gameplayer and will do anything to win - wouldnt ***** the public stop him from winning and make the other housemates nominate him??????? Hats off to you JJ, Ben was totally in the wrong he has no right to judge any of the housemates reference their home life, employment status etc etc ( I would be saying this no matter which housemate he said it about) I am actually beginning to think Ben is the one with issues he continually discusses JJ with Dave in the snug its almost like his obsessed with the bloke or more likely sees him as a threat

[Julesuk]

As an after thought then goes to the diary room and puts on his thank you so much BB (who incidentally have made Friday nights Ben's night) then goes on to look so distressed because nasty vicious John James spoke back to him insteady of kissing his butt - but of course - you know Ben really loves you John James because he says so everytime just before he slags you off for an hour.

[Claymores]

As an after thought then goes to the diary room and puts on his thank you so much BB (who incidentally have made Friday nights Ben's night) then goes on to look so distressed because nasty vicious John James spoke back to him insteady of kissing his butt - but of course - you know Ben really loves you John James because he says so everytime just before he slags you off for an hour.

The end of the HL show was amusing - Benny boy wingeing in the DR then cut to closing titles and Marcus Bentley overvoice "tune-in tomorrow for more Ben fun" :joker:

[joeysteele]

John James I hope has shot himself in the foot after his ranting like madman and his foul grossly offensive comments as to the UL viewing public. If they have any sense he will not win. I hope Ben does win but I rarely get the winner I wnat of BB but in the end if Bne is not going to win then I just hope anyone other than Steve and particularly John James wins and that isa complete turnaround for me since at the very start of BB11, John James, Ben,Josie and Corin were my favourites.
Ben is still my absolute favourite in the house, I am sick of Josie whining so much but she has spent alot of time with JJ so its not surprising,Corin I still like because like Bne she is not a pack followerl she does her own thing and I think I have made it clear that JJ has lummneted in my estimation of him and I rate him as one of the worst housemates ever on BB and he is certainly the very forst ever to with foul language insult and offend the British viewing public directly.
There are always arguments in the BB series, some get out of hand, repeatedly disruptive housemates in the past have bben dealt with heavily by BB, this is the last series so BB seems not bothered what goes on much now, but I still hope they will take JJ to task for his offence to the British viewers, that was totally out of order, and Ben was right to say let the public decide,because it is a show ehere the public does decide who goes out, who stays in and who eventually wins and get the prize, if JJ doesn't understand that and so says f... the public and he doesn't give a f... for the public then really its very simple ,he should be in the house at all.

[Julesuk]

I just dont get bens support or how people can justify him being a good housemate, he does nothing but pull people apart - I can only think people find him funny because his upper class and find it amusing the way he speaks he has to be the laziest un game player ever on BB he just is not prepared to budge on anything he doesnt want to do.

[Tessier Ashpool]

As an after thought then goes to the diary room and puts on his thank you so much BB (who incidentally have made Friday nights Ben's night) then goes on to look so distressed because nasty vicious John James spoke back to him insteady of kissing his butt - but of course - you know Ben really loves you John James because he says so everytime just before he slags you off for an hour.

Yeah, that did Ben no favours. Showed him to be a slippery, back-stabby character - definitely played that out for the cameras to get some JJ hate going. I think that will have a large effect on Ben's popularity.
His personality makes me suspect he can be a sleaze, but it's different seeing it in action - not so cuddly now :yuk:

[Julesuk]

but I still hope they will take JJ to task for his offence to the British viewers, that was totally out of order, and Ben was right to say let the public decide

Why?
Why should the public decide that JJ dietry habits are wrong, its wrong he doesnt work, etc etc - Ben was the one that brought all this up he had no right - yeah discuss eachother but that was just too personnel - No one knows what John James went through when his father died or what personnel issues he has it his right only to disucss these things with fellow housemates should he wish to not Bens and then to justify it by saying - let the public decide - he sees JJ as a threat and knows his quite volitile and the things he said would not bode well with John. I applaud John for his reaction

[joeysteele]

I think its JJ who thinks Bne is the threatm after the stand up comedy task with the crowd cheering Ben, JJ has gobe for him ever since getting more nasty each time, JJ thought his looks would have him walk the series but what he failed to do was get some anger management before he went into the house because all his nastiness, gossiping, troublemaking and then the over the top blowing a fuse over nothing and the onslaught of foul filthy langauge will start to wear thin in time,we are barely halfway through the series yet and he is going to be a paranoaic nightmare the longer he is in.
His temper, his language and his jealosuy of anyone else forming easy going relationships will continue to get his back up more and more.
Juste remember voting public other than JJ diehard fans,when it comes to deciding who gets the prize money and title of the last BB winner,a cash prize your money has helped raise by texts ,calls and other interactive connections to the series, just remember these2 words from John James direcetd to you the public, 'f... you'.

[Julesuk]

You need to understand his comment in the right context he was saying ***** the public Ben, this is you saying these things why bring the public into it. The argument is between us two.
We will have to agree to disagree on this one - I was certainly not offended

[Claymores]

You need to understand his comment in the right context he was saying ***** the public Ben, this is you saying these things why bring the public into it. The argument is between us two.
We will have to agree to disagree on this one - I was certainly not offended

Benites are clutching at any possible straws cause their hero kicked-off a needless argument

John has a problem with Ben's ubiquitous answer "well the public can decide". John has the problem because Benny-boy's actions are likely to mean 11 people are cold showering n eating sh1te for a week in the meantime before any public vote

What John essentially said is who gives an 'eff of the public vote if you make 11 other people suffer as a consequence of your selfishness

[joeysteele]

didnt sound that way to me or to all the other people I know who watched it and even those who liked JJ were offended and I said I think the majority of viewers not ALL of them would be offended by JJs statement.To some of his supporters on here, he could kill someone in the house and they would still think he should win.

[the-gaffer]

I laugh at everyone who is shocked by his statement, truth be told, Ben is the one playing you for fools, he is the guy who needs to feel loved, he is the guy who is desperate not to be booed, John James like him or loathe him is in there for his own reasons, but not once has he allowed any outside factors get in the way of what he wants to say or how he wants to act.

How many people in that house have wanted to cry/explode/say something out of turn but have managed to hold it in, refrain from doing it, just because they don't want to come across as looking bad on camera, when John James goes, and it could be this week due to his 'outburst' you can be rest assured that he left it all in the house, when Benny boy leaves, and I love Ben as a character by the way, when Ben leaves, you know he has played a massive game from the first moment in the house, people are so fickle