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fingers
19-07-2010, 08:46 AM
....for Iranianian TV! the same Press TV channel that spews out hatred of the US and Britain all day every day. But then it's only money innit?

Andrew to Ben "did you stay up for the election?"

Ben, disdainfully, "New, new, new, I covered it for Iranian TV"

Ironic that someone who professes to be the epitome of Britishness sells his services to the same Channel that employs George Galloway to reinforce its hatred for all things British.:hugesmile:

Novo
19-07-2010, 08:50 AM
Get a grip fingers, It's his Job and it's like not he was talking bad about Britain he was covering the election.. He's interested in Politics and covered the Election for a foreign channel WOW big WOW

oddballmisfitsFTW
19-07-2010, 08:51 AM
....for Iranianian TV! the same Press TV channel that spews out hatred of the US and Britain all day every day. But then it's only money innit?

Andrew to Ben "did you stay up for the election?"

Ben, disdainfully, "New, new, new, I covered it for Iranian TV"

Ironic that someone who professes to be the epitome of Britishness sells his services to the same Channel that employs George Gallagher to reinforce its hatred for all things British.:hugesmile:


who is George Gallagher, do you mean Galloway or is Gallagher someone else?

fingers
19-07-2010, 08:53 AM
who is George Gallagher, do you mean Galloway or is Gallagher someone else?

oops, of course it is Galloway !! lol:wavey:

Novo
19-07-2010, 08:58 AM
You are speculating now, where did I ever say that I liked Kweervan. do get your facts right.:joker:

He said you are Just like her not that you liked her..Christ no wonders you don't like ben you probably can't keep up with his Immense Intelligence

Kore
19-07-2010, 09:16 AM
serious? IRANIAN TV? what a traitor lol

Angus
19-07-2010, 11:44 AM
In any case I'm just pointing out that this paragon of virtue will take money from any country regardless.

No need for personal attacks.

When has Ben or any of his fans ever said he was a paragon of virtue? And as for earning his money by being a political correspondent, so what? At least he's gainfully employed and not sponging of the state; and not unemployed and squatting in other people's property, or unemployed and squandering his dead father's inheritance.:rolleyes:

ange7
19-07-2010, 12:49 PM
Ben taking money from Iranian State TV? The same state that murders protesters in the street or makes them "disappear" for actively backing democracy in Iran. Ben will do ANYTHING for the $$$$. Ben needs to grow a moral conscience instead of taking blood money from the Iranian government soaked in the blood of democracy supporters who protest in the streets! hehe :P lol

fingers
19-07-2010, 12:54 PM
Ben does NOT care where his income comes from, he has the ability to shut out irritating facts about his paymasters. He doesn't sponge off the state because he prefers to sponge of his upper class "friends"

johnx
19-07-2010, 01:50 PM
Bens a legend-21st Century Lord Haw Haw.Press TVs alot better than Sky or Fox News-has to be said.

Angus
19-07-2010, 02:03 PM
Ben does NOT care where his income comes from, he has the ability to shut out irritating facts about his paymasters. He doesn't sponge off the state because he prefers to sponge of his upper class "friends"

So why does that bother you then? Your taxes aren't keeping him, so why not direct your resentment to those who DO sponge off the taxpayers like some of the evicted HMs?

joeysteele
19-07-2010, 02:04 PM
ITS HIS JOB for goodness sake, he will have had to do whatever his bosses said and for where,what a rediculous criticism,even in the days of the cold war with the USSR our elections were coverd for them too, IRAN is no different, we are not exactly in any major conflict with Iran. Ben was doing his job, how come some people here think he warrants criticism for doing that, what a spiteful lot.

chuff me dizzy
19-07-2010, 02:34 PM
....for Iranianian TV! the same Press TV channel that spews out hatred of the US and Britain all day every day. But then it's only money innit?

Andrew to Ben "did you stay up for the election?"

Ben, disdainfully, "New, new, new, I covered it for Iranian TV"

Ironic that someone who professes to be the epitome of Britishness sells his services to the same Channel that employs George Galloway to reinforce its hatred for all things British.:hugesmile:

Exactly !!

ange7
19-07-2010, 02:55 PM
ITS HIS JOB for goodness sake, he will have had to do whatever his bosses said and for where,what a rediculous criticism,even in the days of the cold war with the USSR our elections were coverd for them too, IRAN is no different, we are not exactly in any major conflict with Iran. Ben was doing his job, how come some people here think he warrants criticism for doing that, what a spiteful lot.
Good god! ... because he was PAID by them. He wasn't covering the election for UK tv but by a state owned propaganda machine. A state that has blood on it's hands. What a strange defense ..."It's his job!"? People make moral choice to do or not to do things. He clearly sees no problem in taking cash from the Iranian owned and run mouth piece that slaughter it's own people in the streets. Ffs wake up and listen to yourself. Ben is a nasty toad who I wouldn't trust alone with my pets. hehe

johnx
19-07-2010, 03:06 PM
Good god! ... because he was PAID by them. He wasn't covering the election for UK tv but by a state owned propaganda machine. A state that has blood on it's hands. What a strange defense ..."It's his job!"? People make moral choice to do or not to do things. He clearly sees no problem in taking cash from the Iranian owned and run mouth piece that slaughter it's own people in the streets. Ffs wake up and listen to yourself. Ben is a nasty toad who I wouldn't trust alone with my pets. hehe

All states have blood on their hands-Certainly Australia has.No ones blaming you for that.

chuff me dizzy
19-07-2010, 03:07 PM
Good god! ... because he was PAID by them. He wasn't covering the election for UK tv but by a state owned propaganda machine. A state that has blood on it's hands. What a strange defense ..."It's his job!"? People make moral choice to do or not to do things. He clearly sees no problem in taking cash from the Iranian owned and run mouth piece that slaughter it's own people in the streets. Ffs wake up and listen to yourself. Ben is a nasty toad who I wouldn't trust alone with my pets. hehe

Well said ,I would not work for any sick regime no mater if they paid me or not ,its called having morals

ange7
19-07-2010, 03:13 PM
All states have blood on their hands-Certainly Australia has.No ones blaming you for that.
The current Aus government has used the military on citizens? Please shut up dude? :P
We're talking CURRENT governments. Why are you trying to be an apologist for an evil totalitarian regime and the prat who happily took the $$$$$$$$$$ no questions asked.

Try again :elephant::cat:JOHNX:cat::elephant:

fingers
19-07-2010, 03:16 PM
Why is a verbatim report of what was SAID on LF causing a stir?

Andrew to Ben "did you stay up for the election?"

Ben, disdainfully, "New, new, new, I covered it for Iranian TV"

Maybe he did it for nothing, that would be nice!

Shasown
19-07-2010, 03:17 PM
Well said ,I would not work for any sick regime no mater if they paid me or not ,its called having morals

Do you pay taxes to the UK Government?

johnx
19-07-2010, 03:18 PM
The current Aus government has used the military on citizens? Please shut up dude? :P
We're talking CURRENT governments. Why are you trying to be an apologist for an evil totalitarian regime and the prat who happily took the $$$$$$$$$$ no questions asked.

Try again :elephant::cat:JOHNX:cat::elephant:

Australia was built on the deliberate genocide of the indiginous population-remember that when your on the moral high ground.
Iran doesnt go round invading other countries-Could name you a few who do.

Shasown
19-07-2010, 03:20 PM
The current Aus government has used the military on citizens? Please shut up dude? :P
We're talking CURRENT governments. Why are you trying to be an apologist for an evil totalitarian regime and the prat who happily took the $$$$$$$$$$ no questions asked.

Try again :elephant::cat:JOHNX:cat::elephant:

Didnt the Australian Government send forces into the initial invasion of Afghanistan in 2001, didnt they send troops to party in the gulf 2 in 2003, and dont they currently have Special Forces operating in Iraq and afghanistan currently?

ange7
19-07-2010, 03:20 PM
Well said ,I would not work for any sick regime no mater if they paid me or not ,its called having morals
dam right. Imagine buying fra gra and ponies with blood socked cash. Who'd be able to sleep with THAT guilt?
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http://www.channel4.com/bigbrother/images/guid/f027eb8cb09775345cec39b383652033_extralarge.jpg

:P

joeysteele
19-07-2010, 03:21 PM
Whoever said no personal attacks please,WHAT!!, the people who comment on these pages have the right to conclude any assumptions right or wrong,but the vast amjority who comment here are strong fans of 1 or more housemates,therefore aligned to those housemates.When persoanl attacks are made against their supported housemate,in the absence of that housemate who cannot defend themselves on thes epages then their supporters have very right to especially when someone is totally unfaily and unjustly criticised just for doing their job.It is not a personal attack to say generally, with no names, that that is a spiteful act however if some people read it as a personal attack to them,well,if the cap fits....wear it.

ange7
19-07-2010, 03:24 PM
Didnt the Australian Government send forces into the initial invasion of Afghanistan in 2001, didnt they send troops to party in the gulf 2 in 2003, and dont they currently have Special Forces operating in Iraq and afghanistan currently?
didn't the AUS government send troops on the request of the afgan government to keep the taliban out?
Did the CIVILIAN democracy supporters slaughtered in the streets ask their Iranian government to murder them.

You see these 2 things as comparable do you?

ange7
19-07-2010, 03:29 PM
Do you pay taxes to the UK Government?

Now you equate the UK government with a totalitarian regime who butches democracy supporters in the streets? In the UK your VOTE is your say and your conscience. In Irain your vote isn't worth sh*t. But you want to compare British tax payers with an Iranian dictatorship. This is some next level sh*t right here hehe

MTVN
19-07-2010, 03:30 PM
Whats all this **** about "working for a sick regime", that is one of the most exaggerated claims I've seen on this forum in my short time (and I've already seen a lot)

The Press TV channel is not purely intended to publicise and promote the Iranian regime. It has actually produced programs that have been critical of the government and covered reports such as protests over the states control. It has an international audience and has presenters from several different countries

Ben was not promoting the Iranian regime by doing this and anyone who says otherwise should at least do some research into the channel first. Sure, they have been criticised as biased by some people, but all tv channels are biased in one way or another

johnx
19-07-2010, 03:30 PM
Personally Im more offended by him appearing on ITV2 on Ladette to Lady.

ITV2 is the mouthpeice of a sick regime attempting to dumb down the British public through shows like When Fern Cotten Met Paris Hilton.

fingers
19-07-2010, 03:36 PM
Whats all this **** about "working for a sick regime", that is one of the most exaggerated claims I've seen on this forum in my short time (and I've already seen a lot)

The Press TV channel is not purely intended to publicise and promote the Iranian regime. It has actually produced programs that have been critical of the government and covered reports such as protests over the states control. It has an international audience and has presenters from several different countries

Ben was not promoting the Iranian regime by doing this and anyone who says otherwise should at least do some research into the channel first. Sure, they have been criticised as biased by some people, but all tv channels are biased in one way or another

Press TV is wholly owned and funded by the Iranian government, spin it how you will.

Shasown
19-07-2010, 03:36 PM
didn't the AUS government send troops on the request of the afgan government to keep the taliban out?
Did the CIVILIAN democracy supporters slaughtered in the streets ask their Iranian government to murder them.

You see these 2 things as comparable do you?

I would suggest you go back and look at the initial invasion, it certainly wasnt at the invite of the Afghan Government. It was at the invite of the US President at the time. (Heres a hint, the Taliban were the ****ing Afghan government at the time.)

ange7
19-07-2010, 03:38 PM
Whats all this **** about "working for a sick regime", that is one of the most exaggerated claims I've seen on this forum in my short time (and I've already seen a lot)

The Press TV channel is not purely intended to publicise and promote the Iranian regime. It has actually produced programs that have been critical of the government and covered reports such as protests over the states control. It has an international audience and has presenters from several different countries

Ben was not promoting the Iranian regime by doing this and anyone who says otherwise should at least do some research into the channel first. Sure, they have been criticised as biased by some people, but all tv channels are biased in one way or another
"t has actually produced programs that have been critical of the government and covered reports such as protests over the states control"
complete bollox mate. No way. State owned, state run ... and runs the government line every time. Please don't make stuff up.

"but all tv channels are biased in one way or another"
OMG the LENGTHS that ben lovers will go to to excuse Benny boy. Awesome. :"Come on the atrocities commited and the white wash by the Iranian press wasn't so bad was it?.... oh and Ben just took the cash... he didn't kill anyone!.... all countries do that don't they?... as for the papers... well all papers are biased aren't they?"

lol jesus!

Mate that's not "bias"... that's a noose around the neck of democracy.
Ben ticked that box :P

Shasown
19-07-2010, 03:40 PM
Now you equate the UK government with a totalitarian regime who butches democracy supporters in the streets? In the UK your VOTE is your say and your conscience. In Irain your vote isn't worth sh*t. But you want to compare British tax payers with an Iranian dictatorship. This is some next level sh*t right here hehe

The question you quoted was in response to:

Originally Posted by chuff me dizzy
Well said ,I would not work for any sick regime no mater if they paid me or not ,its called having morals

Whilst the UK and Australian Governments may be a few levels above the Iranian Government they most certainly not as squeaky clean as you would have us believe.

johnx
19-07-2010, 03:43 PM
I would suggest you go back and look at the initial invasion, it certainly wasnt at the invite of the Afghan Government. It was at the invite of the US President at the time. (Heres a hint, the Taliban were the ****ing Afghan government at the time.)

The very respectable George W. Bush under who's regime innocent Americans were gunned down by the millitary in New Orleans during the Hurricane Katrina disaster-those involved have been charged this week.Taking the moral high ground is a very complex issue.

Shasown
19-07-2010, 03:43 PM
"t has actually produced programs that have been critical of the government and covered reports such as protests over the states control"
complete bollox mate. No way. State owned, state run ... and runs the government line every time. Please don't make stuff up.

"but all tv channels are biased in one way or another"
OMG the LENGTHS that ben lovers will go to to excuse Benny boy. Awesome. :"Come on the atrocities commited and the white wash by the Iranian press wasn't so bad was it?.... oh and Ben just took the cash... he didn't kill anyone!.... all countries do that don't they?... as for the papers... well all papers are biased aren't they?"

lol jesus!

Mate that's not "bias"... that's a noose around the neck of democracy.
Ben ticked that box :P

Before you start whining about him taking the money from a blood stained regime wouldnt it be better to actually seek out his report and see how factual and unbiaised it was.

After all isnt it better for an unbiaised report about democracy rather then the Iranian sending over their own flunkie who could have put any sort of government spin on it?

ange7
19-07-2010, 03:45 PM
I would suggest you go back and look at the initial invasion, it certainly wasnt at the invite of the Afghan Government. It was at the invite of the US President at the time. (Heres a hint, the Taliban were the ****ing Afghan government at the time.)
What ??? Now your on about the invasion? Fly in glass box mate.
Hamid Karzai was in Australia asking for troops. Your talking of Australia weren't we?
European and US forces kicking out the taliban who treated women like cattle and used football pitches to carry out public death penalties. But oh no... but for YOU this is like a government killing it's own. Please mate? These aren't the same.

MTVN
19-07-2010, 03:48 PM
"t has actually produced programs that have been critical of the government and covered reports such as protests over the states control"
complete bollox mate. No way. State owned, state run ... and runs the government line every time. Please don't make stuff up.

"but all tv channels are biased in one way or another"
OMG the LENGTHS that ben lovers will go to to excuse Benny boy. Awesome. :"Come on the atrocities commited and the white wash by the Iranian press wasn't so bad was it?.... oh and Ben just took the cash... he didn't kill anyone!.... all countries do that don't they?... as for the papers... well all papers are biased aren't they?"

lol jesus!

Mate that's not "bias"... that's a noose around the neck of democracy.
Ben ticked that box :P

Say what you wont but I didnt make that up, they have. When some students were staging a demonstration against the State's control over it's citizens they reported it, there's one example. You have this picture of it as just endlessly streaming out Iranian propoganda 24/7 which is untrue

And all tv channels are biased aren't they? It's true that they give more air time to pro-government guests but they have also had members ofthe opposition as guests albeit not for several months. Dont get me wrong, the channel is not without criticism, but they do not just promote the Iranian regime and the acts they have commited

You criticise Ben for appearing on the channel but a number of British journalists and politicians have, he's hardly on his own. They asked him to cover the election for them and he agreed. It doesnt exactly mean he is now a leading proponent of Ahmedinejad and his regime

ange7
19-07-2010, 03:49 PM
Before you start whining about him taking the money from a blood stained regime wouldnt it be better to actually seek out his report and see how factual and unbiaised it was.

After all isnt it better for an unbiaised report about democracy rather then the Iranian sending over their own flunkie who could have put any sort of government spin on it?
"whining" ... yeah ... very tasteful in light of the dead and murdered. Advocating their cause is "whining". lol ahave a listen to your self.
"After all isnt it better for an unbiaised report about democracy rather then"
Who paid the cheque? Why assume that the reason that one person is biased or not is their nationality and not the cash in their pocket? ...

johnx
19-07-2010, 03:50 PM
At least he gets to know the result of the election before the voting starts.

ange7
19-07-2010, 03:54 PM
Say what you wont but I didnt make that up, they have. When some students were staging a demonstration against the State's control over it's citizens they reported it, there's one example. You have this picture of it as just endlessly streaming out Iranian propoganda 24/7 which is untrue

And all tv channels are biased aren't they? It's true that they give more air time to pro-government guests but they have also had members ofthe opposition as guests albeit not for several months. Dont get me wrong, the channel is not without criticism, but they do not just promote the Iranian regime and the acts they have commited

You criticise Ben for appearing on the channel but a number of British journalists and politicians have, he's hardly on his own. They asked him to cover the election for them and he agreed. It doesnt exactly mean he is now a leading proponent of Ahmedinejad and his regime
Nor did I ever say he was. The cash is tainted... he knows it is. That "other" correspondents do some work with a state sponsored mouth piece doesn't back Ben's stand in the least.
As for reports that come out of Iran that are not censored well we have twitter, facebook and other social networking sites to thank.... not the "kind of biased" state media.

Shasown
19-07-2010, 03:55 PM
What ??? Now your on about the invasion? Fly in glass box mate.
Hamid Karzai was in Australia asking for troops. Your talking of Australia weren't we?
European and US forces kicking out the taliban who treated women like cattle and used football pitches to carry out public death penalties. But oh no... but for YOU this is like a government killing it's own. Please mate? These aren't the same.

With all due respect to your apparent lack of understanding, the point I am making is that in 2001 the Australian Covernment sent its Forces to operate under the Americans, invading a country governed by the Taleban.

The Invasion was because Al Quaeda had training camps in the country and US Intelligence (an oxymoron in itself) believed the current hide and seek world champion, one Mr bin liner(Osama Bin Laden) was at large in the country, the spams wanted the camps closed and the AQ leadership handed over to the US for trial.

The Taleban refused because the Americans wouldnt give any evidence for their claims. The US then sent out invites to the UK and Australia to head to Afghanistan for a party where the Afghan Government - the Taleban where removed from power by the invading forces.

Replacing the outgoing government eventually with a "democratically" elected government favourable to the US/UK which in 2006 asked for troops to be sent back in, to support them.

In between 2001 and 2006 US UK and Australian Special Forces still operated in the country trying to find the undisputed World Hide and Seek Champion.

LadyNay
19-07-2010, 03:55 PM
So we could say all you who work at Supermarkets are contributing to a capitalist system that keeps the poor poor and the rich rich. Those of you working in high street stores that sell goods made by indiginous poplaces in dangerous conditions or for terrible pay, are just as bad... we could go on & on.... Silly argument :spin:

Shasown
19-07-2010, 03:58 PM
So we could say all you who work at Supermarkets are contributing to a capitalist system that keeps the poor poor and the rich rich. Those of you working in high street stores that sell goods made by indiginous poplaces in dangerous conditions or for terrible pay, are just as bad... we could go on & on.... Silly argument :spin:

Exactly!

fingers
19-07-2010, 04:00 PM
So we could say all you who work at Supermarkets are contributing to a capitalist system that keeps the poor poor and the rich rich. Those of you working in high street stores that sell goods made by indiginous poplaces in dangerous conditions or for terrible pay, are just as bad... we could go on & on.... Silly argument :spin:

Just a little off topic, but it had the desired effect!

ange7
19-07-2010, 04:00 PM
"With all due respect to your apparent lack of understanding"
Don't get trolly champ.
Nothing there backs your argument that other governments or the British tax payers have the same amount of blood on their hands as the Iranian dictatorship. Thanks for the wiki cut and paste but that info really didn't back your point at all. Now it's 2 am here in Sydney and it's way past my bed time. Ta for the argument. Don't get bitchy next time :P

MTVN
19-07-2010, 04:02 PM
Nor did I ever say he was. The cash is tainted... he knows it is. That "other" correspondents do some work with a state sponsored mouth piece doesn't back Ben's stand in the least.
As for reports that come out of Iran that are not censored well we have twitter, facebook and other social networking sites to thank.... not the "kind of biased" state media.

Well I dont really see how he in any way contributed to the promotion of the regime just by covering the British general election for them, but whatever. Agree to disagree.

Shasown
19-07-2010, 04:02 PM
"With all due respect to your apparent lack of understanding"
Don't get trolly champ.
Nothing there backs your argument that other governments or the British tax payers have the same amount of blood on their hands as the Iranian dictatorship. Thanks for the wiki cut and paste but that info really didn't back your point at all. Now it's 2 am here in Sydney and it's way past my bed time. Ta for the argument. Don't get bitchy next time :P

What wiki cut and paste?

Instead of trying to score points off people by throwing BS accusations why dont you try forming a legitimate argument. Argue on thepoints levelled as opposed to flying off at tangents.

ange7
19-07-2010, 04:04 PM
Exactly!
nah that your point that she said was silly.
but now YOU say ..."exactly"?
Shaswon thinks the UK people have the same blood on their hands as Iranian death squads who kill civilians. He's argument was British taxpayers who sent soldiers to stabilize Afghanistan are EQUALLY as guilty as the regime in Iran.

Shasown
19-07-2010, 04:08 PM
nah that your point that she said was silly.
but now YOU say ..."exactly"?
Shaswon thinks the UK people have the same blood on their hands as Iranian death squads who kill civilians. He's argument was British taxpayers who sent soldiers to stabilize Afghanistan are EQUALLY as guilty as the regime in Iran.

Thanks for trying to put words into my mouth, that isnt the point at all. But you can go to bed now happy in the knowledge that you won the moralistic argument, well at least in your own mind.

Ben is an evil man supporting and maintaining the Iranian Government. After all you said he is.

ange7
19-07-2010, 04:09 PM
What wiki cut and paste?

Instead of trying to score points off people by throwing BS accusations why dont you try forming a legitimate argument. Argue on thepoints levelled as opposed to flying off at tangents.
"With all due respect to your apparent lack of understanding"
is you "trying to score points".
You have yet to argue your point. It's still on the table where you left it and went off on a tangent about invasion timetable.
Which is worse?
Iranian government murdering democracy protesters or UK citizen paying taxes that pay for the war in Afghanistan?
That WAS your point. And you dropped it as soon as you got some heat. Argue it or kindly suuuush..tfu :P

Shasown
19-07-2010, 04:12 PM
"With all due respect to your apparent lack of understanding"
is you "trying to score points".
You have yet to argue your point. It's still on the table where you left it and went off on a tangent about invasion timetable.
Which is worse?
Iranian government murdering democracy protesters or UK citizen paying taxes that pay for the war in Afghanistan?
That WAS your point. And you dropped it as soon as you got some heat. Argue it or kindly suuuush..tfu :P

What Wiki cut and paste?

How is reporting as freelance correspondent for any TV station supporting a particular regime?

As for my point if you are questioning someones morals shouldnt you make sure your own morals are squeaky clean?

ange7
19-07-2010, 04:12 PM
Thanks for trying to put words into my mouth, that isnt the point at all. But you can go to bed now happy in the knowledge that you won the moralistic argument, well at least in your own mind.

Ben is an evil man supporting and maintaining the Iranian Government. After all you said he is." Originally Posted by Shasown
"Do you pay taxes to the UK Government?"
to chuff

you argued the same with me and the Australian government. Back you argument... it's yours. If I were you I'd disown it too :P

Shasown
19-07-2010, 04:14 PM
" Originally Posted by Shasown
"Do you pay taxes to the UK Government?"
to chuff

you argued the same with me and the Australian government. Back you argument... it's yours. If I were you I'd disown it too :P

I havent disowned the argument.

The Australian Government sent forces to both Iraq and Afghanistan not at the request of the people of those countries. But at the request of the US administration of the time.

If you pay taxes to the country you live in, you are by default supoporting that country.

ange7
19-07-2010, 04:17 PM
What Wiki cut and paste?

How is reporting as freelance correspondent for any TV station supporting a particular regime?

As for my point if you are questioning someones morals shouldnt you make sure your own morals are squeaky clean?
"How is reporting as freelance correspondent for any TV station supporting a particular regime?"
taking the $$$$$$ I'd thought I'd made that point 5 or 6 times. and freelance or otherwise.... WTF has 'freelance got to do with it"?
It's that he's happily take money from a state that slaughters his own. Perhaps the problem we have here is that you give it the thumbs up and see no issue with blood money. Most do. hehe

johnx
19-07-2010, 04:20 PM
"How is reporting as freelance correspondent for any TV station supporting a particular regime?"
taking the $$$$$$ I'd thought I'd made that point 5 or 6 times. and freelance or otherwise.... WTF has 'freelance got to do with it"?
It's that he's happily take money from a state that slaughters his own. Perhaps the problem we have here is that you give it the thumbs up and see no issue with blood money. Most do. hehe

Ok seeing as it offends you so much what would you like Ben to do? Give the money back? Fall prostrate at your feet and beg forgiveness? Drink some hemlock?

ange7
19-07-2010, 04:20 PM
I havent disowned the argument.

The Australian Government sent forces to both Iraq and Afghanistan not at the request of the people of those countries. But at the request of the US administration of the time.

If you pay taxes to the country you live in, you are by default supoporting that country.
and that is equal to a government murdering it's own civilians? I mean we ( the thread) were talking about Iran... you brought up Aust government, British government, British taxpayers.... to what end? You think what we do is worse than the murders in streets of Iran?

ange7
19-07-2010, 04:22 PM
Ok seeing as it offends you so much what would you like Ben to do? Give the money back? Fall prostrate at your feet and beg forgiveness? Drink some hemlock?
But doesn't offend you? I didn't think for a second it would mate.

johnx
19-07-2010, 04:25 PM
But doesn't offend you? I didn't think for a second it would mate.

I'm not perfect like you.I couldnt possibly reach the level of moral fibre you obviously posses.

Shasown
19-07-2010, 04:32 PM
"How is reporting as freelance correspondent for any TV station supporting a particular regime?"
taking the $$$$$$ I'd thought I'd made that point 5 or 6 times. and freelance or otherwise.... WTF has 'freelance got to do with it"?
It's that he's happily take money from a state that slaughters his own. Perhaps the problem we have here is that you give it the thumbs up and see no issue with blood money. Most do. hehe

Wow, I wish the world I lived in could be so Black and White, unfortunately I live in the real world where there are lots of other colours and all sorts of greys.

Would that you have no one reported the Elections for them, so their government just made up some BS about an elitist regime getting power in rigged elections? At least now the people who watched the news report have a hopefully impartial report about fair elections.

Someone would have taken up the assignment, plus you have no idea about the circumstances behind him picking up that job.

Shasown
19-07-2010, 04:50 PM
and that is equal to a government murdering it's own civilians? I mean we ( the thread) were talking about Iran... you brought up Aust government, British government, British taxpayers.... to what end? You think what we do is worse than the murders in streets of Iran?

I am not saying the governemnts are directly comparable. You and chuff are taking the moral high ground over him accepting money from a regime that has murdered its own citizens. Him taking the money is not the same as him condoning the actions of the regime, merely receiving recompense for him doing a job.

To state that it is, you would also have to accept that paying taxes to or receiving money from your own government means you condone all their actions. The UK government has not only murdered some of its own citizens it has also murdered the citizens of other countries. As has the Australian administration both recently and in the distant past.

Therefore we are no better or worse than Ben are we? I know I have committed what some would class as illegal acts for Queen and country. Thats why I view the whole argument he is an evil man for reporting election results as almost laughable.