Watching a bunny boiler get her own way is infuriating

[jjj2]

But is it entertaining to will it keep people watching for weeks just to see her booed for a minute as she leaves

[fruit_cake]

Josie is entertaining thats true but so were public executions!!! :joker:

[Hope-x]

what has josie done? think ive missed something...

[chuff me dizzy]

i cannot WAIT for the boos and will try to get tickets to her eviction

[charmingmissc]

what has josie done? think ive missed something...

according to some, just the fact that she is still breathing is enough.

[WOMBAI]

Yes it is! I just want to see JJ tell her how disappointed he is in her behaviour, that she isn't the woman he thought she was etc - and tell her to do one! Would love to see the look on that smug, spiteful face of hers!

[jjj2]

Josie is entertaining thats true but so were public executions!!! :joker:she needs to get her comeuppance in the house for it to be entertaining , like nick in BB1

[Hope-x]

she needs to get her comeuppance in the house for it to be entertaining , like nick in BB1

seriously! what has she done?!

[Hope-x]

according to some, just the fact that she is still breathing is enough.

why :( Josie is adorable! I think shes too good for JJ really!

[WOMBAI]

seriously! what has she done?!

Are you serious! Can't be watching the show then!

[charmingmissc]

why :( Josie is adorable! I think shes too good for JJ really!

she got jealus of caoimhe flirting with jj, and told everyone how she felt.

so now she must be punished for being a human being.

[Niamh.]

Yes it is! I just want to see JJ tell her how disappointed he is in her behaviour, that she isn't the woman he thought she was etc - and tell her to do one! Would love to see the look on that smug, spiteful face of hers!

not a chance of that happening, after their last argument when he was going to leave I think he's terrified of upsetting her again. I think everyone in there is scared to have her as an enemy, they've already seen her take 2 people down and reduce them to quivering wrecks!

[WOMBAI]

she got jealus of caoimhe flirting with jj, and told everyone how she felt.

so now she must be punished for being a human being.

What right does she have to get jealous - JJ is not hers! Then she bitched and bitched and bitched - making people feel uncomfortable! The only person she thinks about is herself - she is completely self-absorbed with no thought or consideration as to how her continuous self-indulgence affects everyone else, particularly JJ - who she professes to care so much about! She cares about no-one but herself!

[jjj2]

she got jealus of caoimhe flirting with jj, and told everyone how she felt.

so now she must be punished for being a human being.Josie is sugar coated poison, i hope its not to late when jj finds out what she is really like

[Livia]

What right does she have to get jealous - JJ is not hers! Then she bitched and bitched and bitched - making people feel uncomfortable! The only person she thinks about is herself - she is completely self-absorbed with no thought or consideration as to how her continuous self-indulgence affects everyone else, particularly JJ - who she professes to care so much about! She cares about no-one but herself!

How true. She's got no chance with JJ anyway. And please... can someone talk me through that bloody awful dressing gown she wears? It makes her look freakin' enormous!

[watchinittoomuch]

Josie s the first one to admit though that she's acted like a jealous cow...fair play to her for having at least some self awareness, not everyone in there is the same

[WOMBAI]

Josie s the first one to admit though that she's acted like a jealous cow...fair play to her for having at least some self awareness, not everyone in there is the same

That is her just being devious - pre-empting any criticism with 'aren't I a jealous cow'- in an attempt to trivialise her behaviour - oldest trick in the book!

[chuff me dizzy]

Josie is sugar coated poison, i hope its not to late when jj finds out what she is really like

The sugar coating is dropping off

[chuff me dizzy]

Josie s the first one to admit though that she's acted like a jealous cow...fair play to her for having at least some self awareness, not everyone in there is the same

Does this make it right "she admits to it"? no it doesnt

[ange7]

she got jealus of caoimhe flirting with jj, and told everyone how she felt.

so now she must be punished for being a human being.

"told everyone how she felt" = bitched and rubbished Keeva till she needed to leave. Josie went around and got all onside while to Keeva's face she kept saying yeah it's all fine. All for what? She felt Keeva had dented her pride and Josie loved the sympathy she got from everyone.

[Hope-x]

Are you serious! Can't be watching the show then!

are YOU serious? condemning her for liking jj?! Poor Josie, Caoimhe was completely out of line! Josie has done nothing wrong.

[watchinittoomuch]

That is her just being devious - pre-empting any criticism with 'aren't I a jealous cow'- in an attempt to trivialise her behaviour - oldest trick in the book!

You might see it like that...I dont..:)

Does it make it right? No...but it makes it honest, and something she can address if/when she needs to.

[joeysteele]

Josie has become really pathetic,I got sick at least a week ago when her real stalking of JJ came stronger.Her constant ''Am I being stupid, I am being stupid arnt I, should I say something, no, I just leave it, no I will say something to her, oh I wish I hadnt' said that, I should have left it, should I have left it.what did she say, what did he say, I should go and ask sbouldn't I, no I wont ask, they can tell me, no I am going to ask what she said, oh I think I've upset her now, I dont want to upset anyone, I should have left it, I feel bad now''....on and on and on she goes but to near lal the other housemates, knowint they will tell the person she is on about at the time and they in turn will get it to JJ who will then find out whats happening from Josie.She is the most devious, manipulating,obsessional stalking bunny boiler on BB,even worse than Michelle Bass.The quiet tone to her voice she uses is now very grating, she is pathetic and she is going to look a right idiot at the end of this BB series,she will cringe when she looks back over it and all for a man who does NOT really want her at all and who will drop her like a hot brick once he is out the house. She has gone from being an entertaining housemate to a sad delusional and obsessed individual who looks like she wants to OWN someone,in this case JJ.If ever there was one then she is a woman to run miles from rather than run to.

[ange7]

That is her just being devious - pre-empting any criticism with 'aren't I a jealous cow'- in an attempt to trivialise her behaviour - oldest trick in the book!
Yeah she'll act guilty about her actions in one sentence and then stick another nail in the next

[WOMBAI]

Does this make it right "she admits to it"? no it doesnt

That might be acceptable if she did it once, realised her faults - and it didn't happen again! But no - it has become a cycle of behaviour - that just gets repeated over and over again! No justifying that!

You can't just say - oops aren't I a jealous cow - and then keep doing it over and over again! The only ones likely to justify that type of behaviour - are those that see those faults in themselves and are simply trying to justify their own thought processes!

[Parmy]

Josie s the first one to admit though that she's acted like a jealous cow...fair play to her for having at least some self awareness, not everyone in there is the same

Another comment wrapped up in humour to deflect any negativity, just like her insulting behaviour towards mario when he dared to ask jj if he wanted him to sleep in his bed that night. Or her keeley has a perfect ass, get her out comment, another direct insult dressed up in flowers trying to mask the pure spite and jealousy that oozes from every pore of her body.

Mario has seen through her and it's only a matter of time before the rest do, look at her now being all fake with corin who only last week she was bitching about with jj.

Her reasons for nominating as well, they are just insults about a person, take her ife one, was there any need for her to say that she sits with a vacant smile on her face when ife talks..no there wasn't, but she thought it would be funny to insult someone behind there back to try and be funny, which incidentally, like I have said before is one of the reasons she made for nominating keeva.

And I'm guessing you know what I feel about hypocrites.:nono:

[jjj2]

Does this make it right "she admits to it"? no it doesntDose not make her stop do ,she was relentlessly selfcentred

[Parmy]

Just to add another point about her, since I made a bet on her to win on opening night i thought my money was safe until the true josie came through, so i have been watching her very very closely this past week, I have come to the conclusion that she only talks about herself, has to be the centre of all the drama and has a complete disregard for anyone elses feelings apart from her own.

[joeysteele]

I am actually starting to feel sorry a bit for John James, having to placate this stalker, he is stuck in the house with her and she also knows how to wind him up. She comes across to him as a strong character and he is like caught between the devil and the deep blue sea as to where she is concerned.
She must be doing his head in, he has said countless times now that he likes her as a friend but more as a Sister, what can this silly woman NOT understand about that, she goes on as if they had been an item and often as if they were now,she has known him for 5 to 6 weeks,she is trying to control who talks to him and who he spends time with,she is really scary and I dare bet outside the house he would disappear any time he came across her,she's too clingy and now is way too obsessed.The guy's head must be all over the place with her.What does he do to contol this machine that wants to posess him,he's tried to deal with it by ignoring it and being in denial thats how she is but he has been made aware of her real intentions with him and she has got others including Caimhe to do that for her. What a nighmare of a woman Josie has become.

[watchinittoomuch]

Another comment wrapped up in humour to deflect any negativity, just like her insulting behaviour towards mario when he dared to ask jj if he wanted him to sleep in his bed that night. Or her keeley has a perfect ass, get her out comment, another direct insult dressed up in flowers trying to mask the pure spite and jealousy that oozes from every pore of her body.

Mario has seen through her and it's only a matter of time before the rest do, look at her now being all fake with corin who only last week she was bitching about with jj.

Her reasons for nominating as well, they are just insults about a person, take her ife one, was there any need for her to say that she sits with a vacant smile on her face when ife talks..no there wasn't, but she thought it would be funny to insult someone behind there back to try and be funny, which incidentally, like I have said before is one of the reasons she made for nominating keeva.

And I'm guessing you know what I feel about hypocrites.:nono:

Well you take all those traits ^^^and apply them for me to Caiomhe, because that's how I see her...and so did the majority of the HMs evidently if the nominations are anything to go by.

[muchadoaboutnothing]

Josie has become really pathetic,I got sick at least a week ago when her real stalking of JJ came stronger.Her constant ''Am I being stupid, I am being stupid arnt I, should I say something, no, I just leave it, no I will say something to her, oh I wish I hadnt' said that, I should have left it, should I have left it.what did she say, what did he say, I should go and ask sbouldn't I, no I wont ask, they can tell me, no I am going to ask what she said, oh I think I've upset her now, I dont want to upset anyone, I should have left it, I feel bad now''....on and on and on she goes but to near lal the other housemates, knowint they will tell the person she is on about at the time and they in turn will get it to JJ who will then find out whats happening from Josie.She is the most devious, manipulating,obsessional stalking bunny boiler on BB,even worse than Michelle Bass.The quiet tone to her voice she uses is now very grating, she is pathetic and she is going to look a right idiot at the end of this BB series,she will cringe when she looks back over it and all for a man who does NOT really want her at all and who will drop her like a hot brick once he is out the house. She has gone from being an entertaining housemate to a sad delusional and obsessed individual who looks like she wants to OWN someone,in this case JJ.If ever there was one then she is a woman to run miles from rather than run to.

Well said (written). Josie has gone right down in my estimation and the fact that she can't see that she has made a contribution to Caoimhe leaving whilst acting all innocent. I feel gutted that she is still one of the favourites to win this. By the way I can't stand JJ either. I think they (he and Josie) are as bad as each other.

[WOMBAI]

Well you take all those traits ^^^and apply them for me to Caiomhe, because that's how I see her...and so did the majority of the HMs evidently if the nominations are anything to go by.

But we all know that the hms are often too close to see what is actually going on! In previous shows - hms have come out and been completely shocked at how the public's perception of a hm was completely different to theirs!

Noms mean nothing - as are usually an attempt to get rid of the competition as opposed to a popularity contest!

[Parmy]

But we all know that the hms are often too close to see what is actually going on! In previous shows - hms have come out and been completely shocked at how the public's perception of a hm was completely different to theirs!

Noms mean nothing - as are usually an attempt to get rid of the competition as opposed to a popularity contest!


what I have noticed with this years nomination is the reasons given by certain housemates, ie, corin josie dave. they leave me shouting "THATS YOU YOU ****" at my telly.

[Speedster]

what has josie done? think ive missed something...

She had the nerve to be attracted to that w***** s**m jj.

[jjj2]

Well you take all those traits ^^^and apply them for me to Caiomhe, because that's how I see her...and so did the majority of the HMs evidently if the nominations are anything to go by.
they swallowed Josies poor me storyline hook line and sinker and probably think the public love them for forcing Caoimhe out, they saw a band wagon and jumped on it

[WOMBAI]

they swallowed Josies poor me storyline hook line and sinker and probably think the public love them for forcing Caoimhe out, they saw a band wagon and jumped on it

I agree!

[chuff me dizzy]

That might be acceptable if she did it once, realised her faults - and it didn't happen again! But no - it has become a cycle of behaviour - that just gets repeated over and over again! No justifying that!

You can't just say - oops aren't I a jealous cow - and then keep doing it over and over again! The only ones likely to justify that type of behaviour - are those that see those faults in themselves and are simply trying to justify their own thought processes!

Once is a mistake,twice is a habit

[WOMBAI]

It wasn't personal, hence the smiley..don't go.

I just thought your reply came right from left field and deflected the topic at hand, which is josie..I like keeva cause she was a bitch and proud of it..I don't like josie because she's a bitch but dishonest with it.

Yes I think that is partly why I dislike her so much - because she pretends she is something she isn't and hasn't the guts to admit what a bitch she really is! :wavey:

[Jords]

Josie has a likable factor about her, Im finding it hard disliking her even though she is really grating on me, LOL.

[jjj2]

Once is a mistake,twice is a habitand ten times is straight jacket territory

[Shiner]

according to some, just the fact that she is still breathing is enough.

#Dra-mah#. :rolleyes:
Just some good, honest behaviour would sufice.

[Shiner]

Josie is sugar coated poison, i hope its not to late when jj finds out what she is really like

Where I come from (Aberdeen) she'd be called a "nippy sweetie". :D

[Parmy]

Josie has a likable factor about her, Im finding it hard disliking her even though she is really grating on me, LOL.

I completely agree, josie is likeable on the surface and is probably really popular with her mates, it's probably the piercing blue eyes and lovely smile.

BB was definatly the wrong option for her because it digs way, way deeper than that.:joker:

[WOMBAI]

I completely agree, josie is likeable on the surface and is probably really popular with her mates, it's probably the piercing blue eyes and lovely smile.

BB was definatly the wrong option for her because it digs way, way deeper than that.:joker:

On the C4 hm page - Josie claims everyone loves her in her hometown - thought that was rather a strange thing to say about yourself! Another telling sign of her insecurities - seems she needs people to like her - but she has a very underhand way of making that happen! It will come back to haunt her one day - maybe even on bb!

[jjj2]

she came across like a mother hen looking a stray chick when she befriended Caoimhe but soon it turned out that she was just a vulture looking for its next prey

[jjj2]

maybe he should take up smoking i hear you can get rid of a leach with a lit cigarette ,failing that he might use a harpoon

[vesavius]

seriously! what has she done?!

She was let down by a 'friend' that tried to belittle her in the classic 'I can have him anytime I want him' thing, and she dared protect herself.


Look at this thread though and compare it to the others... it's the same 4 posters spouting the same poisonous hate as ever. Like was said earlier, the fact that Josie breathes is enough for them to hate her, and ofc the fact that she is still bookie fave above their supported HMs :joker:

[vesavius]

Forcing Cameltoe out? LMAO. She didn't even say that herself!

She was leaving anyway...plz get that into your head and compute.

Very true.

Anyone that watches LF heard her complaiming about the show, the tasks, and the producers for weeks. She was generally miserable about the whole 'experience'.

It wasnt a question of IF she was going, just when.

[MrWong]

Very true.

Anyone that watches LF heard her complaiming about the show, the tasks, and the producers for weeks. She was generally miserable about the whole 'experience'.

It wasnt a question of IF she was going, just when.

Very true.

The Josie isolation tactics were the final straw.

[Shiner]

Very true.

Anyone that watches LF heard her complaiming about the show, the tasks, and the producers for weeks. She was generally miserable about the whole 'experience'.

It wasnt a question of IF she was going, just when.

And the "when" co-incidentally just happened to be half way through a fag while Josie was telling her that her boozy antics the night before were out of order and a threat to her relationship. :rolleyes:

[Parmy]

We have covered this :/

She isolated herself from the entire house by own actions and attitude.

Whay part of her have you seen or heard her say since has convinced you otherwise?

Seriously, when your backing such an obvious self serving spiteful snake as Cahfjfgygyh in such an obvious situation you know you are are well off the path. You have let your hate for Josie over what you perceived initially paint yourself into a corner here, refusing to change your perspective as more and more of her true nature has been revealed. You know what though, it's ok to say 'hey i was wrong' and just move on, you wouldnt get the piss taken, you would actually get respect.

Anyhow, whatever, she is gone (woot!) and Josie is massively popular with the HMs and still bookies and has 4 weeks to flourish. :dance:

to be fair, the isolation was finalised by josie going to every single other housemate to tell them all about how keeva had humiliated and betrayed her.

Keeva isolating herself from them is keevas business, however josie trying to isolate her from them is none of their business. It was downright dirty.

[MrWong]

to be fair, the isolation was finalised by josie going to every single other housemate to tell them all about how keeva had humiliated and betrayed her.

Keeva isolating herself from them is keevas business, however josie trying to isolate her from them is none of their business. It was downright dirty.

Damn straight! :elephant:

[rapunza1977]

Has everyone forgotten the venom which was being spewed from KEEEVA's mouth after Shabby departure, her hatred of Ife, Nathan, the fact she called Corin rough and Sunshine got it in the neck not to mention Dave hatred.............

[chuff me dizzy]

Has everyone forgotten the venom which was being spewed from KEEEVA's mouth after Shabby departure, her hatred of Ife, Nathan, the fact she called Corin rough and Sunshine got it in the neck not to mention Dave hatred.............

I agreed with all Keeva said ! she was spot on

[MrWong]

Has everyone forgotten the venom which was being spewed from KEEEVA's mouth after Shabby departure, her hatred of Ife, Nathan, the fact she called Corin rough and Sunshine got it in the neck not to mention Dave hatred.............

Nope, Caoimhe was a bitch, so is Josie.

[Parmy]

It's the 'more and more of Josie's true nature' that's changed my perspective of Josie. Nothing to do with Caoimhe.

Josie's a manipulative, jealous, lying nightmare.

As for the last bit i highlighted... Oh noes!!! Nobody respects me on an internet forum, my life is in tatters now. :bawling::bawling::bawling:

:rolleyes:

exactly, this is what other posters need to understand, it's not the keeva thing or the jj thing that people dislike about josie, it's the josie thing!!

[chuff me dizzy]

Josie now live feed ,laid in bed with Andrew ,then chatty with Ben but JJ wasnt allowed to even talk to Keeva ,she is one nasty sly nasty bitch

[rapunza1977]

I agreed with all Keeva said ! she was spot on

..and you likely agree with the larged tooth one that she is too good for that show ?

[ange7]

'To be fair'?

When have you been fair in this situation? Don't make me laugh. Half of your posts are full of blind hate, no matter what the truth is, and the other half have tried to rip down other FMs with personal jibes.

Josie dared to defend herself from a 'friend' that tried to belittle her for her own amusement.

cahfhgfygjgh left the house, after a long ongoing unhappiness with the program in general and the knowledge she had alienated the whole house by her own actions and attitue.


But, like I say, it's over now for me as a siutation. Josie is doing fantasically and has 4 weeks clear to do even better. :dance:
"Josie dared to defend herself from a 'friend' that tried to belittle her for her own amusement."
not true Josie went around rubbishing Keeva for 2 days while Keeva was clueless about what her problem was. Keeva on the other hand was not rubbishing Josie. Josie played the victim and solicited sympathy from all. Her attempts at shame or guilt for her actions were fake and false given that within seconds she was back at it with her relentless hate campaign. Horrible Josie.

[vesavius]

"Josie dared to defend herself from a 'friend' that tried to belittle her for her own amusement."

Yep.

[MrWong]

"Josie dared to defend herself from a 'friend' that tried to belittle her for her own amusement."
not true Josie went around rubbishing Keeva for 2 days while Keeva was clueless about what her problem was. Keeva on the other hand was not rubbishing Josie. Josie played the victim and solicited sympathy from all. Her attempts at shame or guilt for her actions were fake and false given that within seconds she was back at it with her relentless hate campaign. Horrible Josie.

True story.

[ange7]

..and you likely agree with the larged tooth one that she is too good for that show ?
Keeva did nothing wrong. It was some harmless fun that Josie milked to feed her sympathy addiction. They way she kept at it was amazing. Even after patching it up with Keeva she was back on it with Ben within minutes, tearing strips off Keeva. All for what? Some nothing event that meant nothing and was a simple laugh.

[watchinittoomuch]

I agreed with all Keeva said ! she was spot on

Well I agree with Josie....Caiomhe was trying to wind up her up and she was flaunting her closeness to JJ to be a cow...there is an unwritten rule between friends, whether you like it or not, and that's if your girl likes someone, you dont put the moves on them, its bad form...and Josie saw it as Caiomhe putting the moves on JJ with her flirting. Josie told her she had her back after Shabby left, and I imagine expected some kind of loyalty in return. She played with Shabby too, kissing her neck, being very physical with her, and dont tell me she didnt know it would wreck the girl's head? I would fully expect a bloke to think I was coming on to him if I kissed his neck and was physical with him at every given opportunity!

Do I think Caiomhe actually wanted anything to happen with JJ? No. Do I think she enjoys every bit of attention she gets, whether it be from men or women? Yes. She has an ego, like we all do.

Do I think Josie needed to talk to so many people about her jealousy? Probably not, it's not how I would handle the situation, but watching the house from the outside it seems that all the housemates seek validation from one or many on any given event, be it their relationships within the house or their participation in tasks, or something as simple as how their clothes/make up look.

caiomhe leaving was a culmination of events, topped off with Josie pointing out stuff about her actions with JJ....and if Caiomhe did not think for one minute that there might be something in what was said, she wouldnt have gone...it's because she was concerned for her relationship that she finally left...and like I've said, if she really thought there was no cause for concern then she wouldnt have.

She isolated herself ultimately because she didnt mix, she preferred to be close within a smaller group.

[ange7]

Well I agree with Josie....Caiomhe was trying to wind up her up and she was flaunting her closeness to JJ to be a cow...there is an unwritten rule between friends, whether you like it or not, and that's if your girl likes someone, you dont put the moves on them, its bad form...and Josie saw it as Caiomhe putting the moves on JJ with her flirting. Josie told her she had her back after Shabby left, and I imagine expected some kind of loyalty in return. She played with Shabby too, kissing her neck, being very physical with her, and dont tell me she didnt know it would wreck the girl's head? I would fully expect a bloke to think I was coming on to him if I kissed his neck and was physical with him at every given opportunity!

Do I think Caiomhe actually wanted anything to happen with JJ? No. Do I think she enjoys every bit of attention she gets, whether it be from men or women? Yes. She has an ego, like we all do.

Do I think Josie needed to talk to so many people about her jealousy? Probably not, it's not how I would handle the situation, but watching the house from the outside it seems that all the housemates seek validation from one or many on any given event, be it their relationships within the house or their participation in tasks, or something as simple as how their clothes/make up look.

caiomhe leaving was a culmination of events, topped off with Josie pointing out stuff about her actions with JJ....and if Caiomhe did not think for one minute that there might be something in what was said, she wouldnt have gone...it's because she was concerned for her relationship that she finally left...and like I've said, if she really thought there was no cause for concern then she wouldnt have.

She isolated herself ultimately because she didnt mix, she preferred to be close within a smaller group.

"Caiomhe was trying to wind up her up"
what??!!?? says Josie.

[Zippy]

"Caiomhe was trying to wind up her up"
what??!!?? says Josie.

Says anybody with eyes and ears!

If she's so innocent why was she worried about her relationship? Silly cow realised that she may be upsetting her BF with her silly games.

[Parmy]

Well I agree with Josie....Caiomhe was trying to wind up her up and she was flaunting her closeness to JJ to be a cow...there is an unwritten rule between friends, whether you like it or not, and that's if your girl likes someone, you dont put the moves on them, its bad form...and Josie saw it as Caiomhe putting the moves on JJ with her flirting. Josie told her she had her back after Shabby left, and I imagine expected some kind of loyalty in return. She played with Shabby too, kissing her neck, being very physical with her, and dont tell me she didnt know it would wreck the girl's head? I would fully expect a bloke to think I was coming on to him if I kissed his neck and was physical with him at every given opportunity!

Do I think Caiomhe actually wanted anything to happen with JJ? No. Do I think she enjoys every bit of attention she gets, whether it be from men or women? Yes. She has an ego, like we all do.

Do I think Josie needed to talk to so many people about her jealousy? Probably not, it's not how I would handle the situation, but watching the house from the outside it seems that all the housemates seek validation from one or many on any given event, be it their relationships within the house or their participation in tasks, or something as simple as how their clothes/make up look.

caiomhe leaving was a culmination of events, topped off with Josie pointing out stuff about her actions with JJ....and if Caiomhe did not think for one minute that there might be something in what was said, she wouldnt have gone...it's because she was concerned for her relationship that she finally left...and like I've said, if she really thought there was no cause for concern then she wouldnt have.

She isolated herself ultimately because she didnt mix, she preferred to be close within a smaller group.


the thing is though, even if keeva was making a move, which due to her being in love with someone on the outside she clearly wasn't, josie never actually told keeva she had strong feelings for him, yes she said he was hot in a football top, or that she liked him one day but hated him the next..all the rest was left up to ife's assumptions, which we all know are a complete waste of time.

[watchinittoomuch]

the thing is though, even if keeva was making a move, which due to her being in love with someone on the outside she clearly wasn't, josie never actually told keeva she had strong feelings for him, yes she said he was hot in a football top, or that she liked him one day but hated him the next..all the rest was left up to ife's assumptions, which we all know are a complete waste of time.

Give over, it's blatant to ANYONE watching that Josie wants the guy...are you telling me that 4 million viewers know, the rest of the house knows, and Caiomhe didnt even though they spent so much time together?

[charmingmissc]

the house mates live with her 24/7.

surely they know her better than anyone.

and they all seem to support her.

[rapunza1977]

True story.

HOLD ON? So...........KEEEEEEEVA has not rubbished anyone in that house? She bitched left right and ceentre in that house - she tried isolating Sunshine / Nathan / Corin / she would given half the chance and Ife ?

[Parmy]

Give over, it's blatant to ANYONE watching that Josie wants the guy...are you telling me that 4 million viewers know, the rest of the house knows, and Caiomhe didnt even though they spent so much time together?

even if keeva did, she never made a move on him, you can't go around blaming keeva for josies insecurities. Who the hell does josie think she is? She meets 13 complete strangers, decides she likes one of them, yet won't tell him or anyone else how she truely feels, then decides or assumes that he should be off limits to everyone else..if that is not(to get back to the topic) bunny boiling traits I don't know what the hell is.

[vesavius]

the house mates live with her 24/7.

surely they know her better than anyone.

and they all seem to support her.

exactly :)

[ange7]

Back on topic.
Josie seems to always have a 2 way bet. She'll talk of her shame and guilt about how she treated Keeva but within seconds she'll again rubbish her to anyone that will dole out the sympathy. Can stand how she can act the victim WHILE on the attack herself.

[watchinittoomuch]

even if keeva did, she never made a move on him, you can't go around blaming keeva for josies insecurities. Who the hell does josie think she is? She meets 13 complete strangers, decides she likes one of them, yet won't tell him or anyone else how she truely feels, then decides or assumes that he should be off limits to everyone else..if that is not(to get back to the topic) bunny boiling traits I don't know what the hell is.

I'm not blaming Caiomhe for her insecurities, I'm saying that Josie obviously saw her as being disloyal about an emotional subject.

Can you entirely blame Josie for her leaving, even though she never integrated fully within the house from day one, and had issues with being there ever since the argument with Ife?

Can you blame Josie for Caiomhe not being very popular within the house, even tough Caiomhe bitched and moaned and had many seperate issues with people way before this latest thing with JJ and Josie? Becuase that what I;ve been reading here....Josie copping the entire blame for Caiomhe leaving, and getting her own way... I dont think a single person IN THAT HOUSE sees it that way and they're all living together...it drives me nuts that people just watching think they know better.

[Parmy]

Back on topic.
Josie seems to always have a 2 way bet. She'll talk of her shame and guilt about how she treated Keeva but within seconds she'll again rubbish her to anyone that will dole out the sympathy. Can stand how she can act the victim WHILE on the attack herself.

you have her spot on imo, last week or so i've noticed josie only seems to talk about josie, I'd love to see a task where they are asked questions about the other housemates outside life, see how well she would get on with that1 I predict a fail if it ever comes to fruition.

[InOne]

Josie let the house get the better of her really. No way would she have reacted like that a few weeks ago. Josie knew full and well JJ was not interested in her and they've never had a sexual connection. Josie should just have left it really. Hope she picks up again.

[Parmy]

I'm not blaming Caiomhe for her insecurities, I'm saying that Josie obviously saw her as being disloyal about an emotional subject.

Can you entirely blame Josie for her leaving, even though she never integrated fully within the house from day one, and had issues with being there ever since the argument with Ife?

Can you blame Josie for Caiomhe not being very popular within the house, even tough Caiomhe bitched and moaned and had many seperate issues with people way before this latest thing with JJ and Josie? Becuase that what I;ve been reading here....Josie copping the entire blame for Caiomhe leaving, and getting her own way... I dont think a single person IN THAT HOUSE sees it that way and they're all living together...it drives me nuts that people just watching think they know better.



I can partly blame josie for keevas demise with her fellow housemates, due to her slating her to each and every one of them.

Do I blame josie for her leaving? No not at all, Infact i take my hat off to keeva for having the strength and guts to follow through on her request to leave, I just wish josie would grow a set and follow suit, but she won't, she will just threaten to a few more times if she thinks she is out off the centre when it comes to the attention meter.

[vesavius]

Argue something!!!! hehehe


ok :)

Josie did nothing wrong. She reacted to a deliberate provocation and piss take by a so called 'friend', and she has every right to have a right old bitch about it.

While I fully admit she got jealous and that was half of the issue for her, the other half was clearly (for those who operate off more then the forums and HL shows or want to see it with any truth) the fact that a 'friend', who knew she has feelings for a bloke, made a move on that bloke (when she wasnt even interested in him) just to say 'I can have him anytime' and for her own amusement.

In short, Caomhe got her kicks from belittling Josie, while smirking and muttering in front of her, with regards to JJ. Josie felt betrayed by someone she had offered the hand of friendship to, and I do not blame her. She had every right to feel offended and had every right to pull Caoimhe up on it.

And you all support Caoimhe in all that? You all honestly wouldnt have been pissed off if your so called 'friend' had done the same to you? Really?



Even with this aside, Caoimhe has been talking about leaving for a long time (even letting her first 'friend' walk before changing her mind) and clearly gave her reasons for going as being her fear for her relationship based on her actions in the house (HER actions).

The bottom line is, why would Caoimhe be scared that her BF thought that she looked like a flirt and a bitch if she herself didnt think she had been a flirt and a bitch and hadnt crossed a line?

The truth is that she knows she was hated in that house, 7 nom speaks a clear story, and that she knew she had stuck the knife into one of her two only friends in there. She had burned her last bridge.

She knew she was gonna be up, she knew she was gonna go, so she jumped before she was pushed in an effort to protect her own ego.

[fitz2k2]

she will feel the wrath of big brother audience

[ange7]

Josie let the house get the better of her really. No way would she have reacted like that a few weeks ago. Josie knew full and well JJ was not interested in her and they've never had a sexual connection. Josie should just have left it really. Hope she picks up again.

Josie won't bounce back. She need to feel sympathy and feel the victim. Before Keeva it was JJ who she rubbished all over town. Then Keeva made a mistake by asking for more alcohol and taking Josie's craziness lightly. From then JJ got a break as Josie made Keeva the "attacker" in her victim fantasy. Now that Keeva is out JJ will be back in her sights.

[watchinittoomuch]

I can partly blame josie for keevas demise with her fellow housemates, due to her slating her to each and every one of them.

Do I blame josie for her leaving? No not at all, Infact i take my hat off to keeva for having the strength and guts to follow through on her request to leave, I just wish josie would grow a set and follow suit, but she won't, she will just threaten to a few more times if she thinks she is out off the centre when it comes to the attention meter.

I wish I was psychic like you :kiss:

I agree with you about her leaving though, fair play to her that she actually did it this time...like I said on another thread all that threatening and never doing it is a bit embarrassing really...and I apply that to any housemate.

[Parmy]

ok :)

Josie did nothing wrong. She reacted to a deliberate provocation and piss take by a so called 'friend', and she has every right to have a right old bitch about it.

While I fully admit she got jealous and that was half of the issue for her, the other half was clearly (for those who operate off more then the forums and HL shows or want to see it with any truth) the fact that a 'friend', who knew she has feelings for a bloke, made a move on that bloke (when she wasnt even interested in him) just to say 'I can have him anytime' and for her own amusement.

In short, Caomhe got her kicks from belittling Josie, while smirking and muttering in front of her, with regards to JJ. Josie felt betrayed by someone she had offered the hand of friendship to, and I do not blame her. She had every right to feel offended and had every right to pull Caoimhe up on it.

And you all support Caoimhe in all that? You all honestly wouldnt have been pissed off if your so called 'friend' had done the same to you? Really?



Even with this aside, Caoimhe has been talking about leaving for a long time (even letting her first 'friend' walk before changing her mind) and clearly gave her reasons for going as being her fear for her relationship based on her actions in the house (HER actions).

The bottom line is, why would Caoimhe be scared that her BF thought that she looked like a flirt and a bitch if she herself didnt think she had been a flirt and a bitch and hadnt crossed a line?

The truth is that she knows she was hated in that house, 7 nom speaks a clear story, and that she knew she had stuck the knife into one of her two only friends in there. She had burned her last bridge.

She knew she was gonna be up, she knew she was gonna go, so she jumped before she was pushed in an effort to protect her own ego.


thats better, i'll get to your bottom line quote bit....when it comes to her worried about her boyfriend when she didn't think she did anything wrong, she obviously has a lot more to think about than that, ie, her parents, and especially her boyfriends parents, that, compiled with everything else minced her head, wheres your empathy for heavens sake!

[WOMBAI]

the house mates live with her 24/7.

surely they know her better than anyone.

and they all seem to support her.

No they don't - they can be too close to see the truth! As I said in another thread - hms from previous bb shows have come out shocked that the public's perception of a hm was completely different to theirs!

[watchinittoomuch]

thats better, i'll get to your bottom line quote bit....when it comes to her worried about her boyfriend when she didn't think she did anything wrong, she obviously has a lot more to think about than that, ie, her parents, and especially her boyfriends parents, that, compiled with everything else minced her head, wheres your empathy for heavens sake!

So Caiomhe deserves empathy but Josie doesnt?

[Parmy]

I wish I was psychic like you :kiss:

I agree with you about her leaving though, fair play to her that she actually did it this time...like I said on another thread all that threatening and never doing it is a bit embarrassing really...and I apply that to any housemate.

Oh you don't have to be psychic to know josie will be straight in the diary room snuffling for sympathy the next time she has a fall out with jj. she's the only girl I know to have ten periods in 6 weeks!!

[Parmy]

So Caiomhe deserves empathy but Josie doesnt?

yes, josie goes looking for it while keeva doesn't thats the difference.

[watchinittoomuch]

Oh you don't have to be psychic to know josie will be straight in the diary room snuffling for sympathy the next time she has a fall out with jj. she's the only girl I know to have ten periods in 6 weeks!!

So when Josie goes to the diary room its for sympathy but when Caiomhe does it it's something else?

Why ffs? They are ALL people, why does one housemate deserve the human treatment while another doesnt?

[Talulabelle]

Josie has become really pathetic,I got sick at least a week ago when her real stalking of JJ came stronger.Her constant ''Am I being stupid, I am being stupid arnt I, should I say something, no, I just leave it, no I will say something to her, oh I wish I hadnt' said that, I should have left it, should I have left it.what did she say, what did he say, I should go and ask sbouldn't I, no I wont ask, they can tell me, no I am going to ask what she said, oh I think I've upset her now, I dont want to upset anyone, I should have left it, I feel bad now''....on and on and on she goes but to near lal the other housemates, knowint they will tell the person she is on about at the time and they in turn will get it to JJ who will then find out whats happening from Josie.She is the most devious, manipulating,obsessional stalking bunny boiler on BB,even worse than Michelle Bass.The quiet tone to her voice she uses is now very grating, she is pathetic and she is going to look a right idiot at the end of this BB series,she will cringe when she looks back over it and all for a man who does NOT really want her at all and who will drop her like a hot brick once he is out the house. She has gone from being an entertaining housemate to a sad delusional and obsessed individual who looks like she wants to OWN someone,in this case JJ.If ever there was one then she is a woman to run miles from rather than run to.

OOOOooohhh I just love it when someone sums up exactly what I want to say without me having to go to the trouble of contributing, thanks mate x

[MrWong]

HOLD ON? So...........KEEEEEEEVA has not rubbished anyone in that house? She bitched left right and ceentre in that house - she tried isolating Sunshine / Nathan / Corin / she would given half the chance and Ife ?

What is this weird stance people take where effectively they reason that because Caoimhe was a bitch that means Josie hasn't been.

Yes Caoimhe was a bitch to Sunshine, the others you mention i don't agree with, though she has bitched about her dislike of them but hasn't done much more than that.

Josie has also been a bitch. She's quite the little liar too, something that riles me in a hm. Her OTT reaction to Caoimhe's flirting shocked me tbh as i didn't think she was capable of being such a manipulative cowbag.

[Parmy]

So when Josie goes to the diary room its for sympathy but when Caiomhe does it it's something else?

Why ffs? They are ALL people, why does one housemate deserve the human treatment while another doesnt?

If you take josies actions in the house when something happens to her, she will go all around the house looking and finding people she can moan at about the situation,i take that as looking for sympathy, so I'm assuming it's a safe bet thats why she goes in the diaryroom.

I'm also assuming keeva goes to the diary room to vent her anger, not to gain sympathy.

[watchinittoomuch]

yes, josie goes looking for it while keeva doesn't thats the difference.

Apart from the diary room where did Caiomhe have to go for sympathy? She'd closed herself off to pretty much everyone in there, apart from JJ who she regularly sought out....and Josie

[watchinittoomuch]

If you take josies actions in the house when something happens to her, she will go all around the house looking and finding people she can moan at about the situation,i take that as looking for sympathy, so I'm assuming it's a safe bet thats why she goes in the diaryroom.

I'm also assuming keeva goes to the diary room to vent her anger, not to gain sympathy.

Well assumptions dont make fact.

[WOMBAI]

yes, josie goes looking for it while keeva doesn't thats the difference.

Agreed!

[Parmy]

Says you. Hardly a neutral observer. Thats whats fundamentally wrong with your assessments...YOU ARE PREJUDICED.

Considering I've wasted £20 on josie winning, I'm far from prejudiced against her.

What I am is dissapointed, shocked, aghast and feel a sense of betrayal and I have the horrible feeling that I have been cheated by someone who doesn't even know herself.

[Mystic Mock]

the bunny boiler left yesterday morning.

[ange7]

ok :)

Josie did nothing wrong. She reacted to a deliberate provocation and piss take by a so called 'friend', and she has every right to have a right old bitch about it.

While I fully admit she got jealous and that was half of the issue for her, the other half was clearly (for those who operate off more then the forums and HL shows or want to see it with any truth) the fact that a 'friend', who knew she has feelings for a bloke, made a move on that bloke (when she wasnt even interested in him) just to say 'I can have him anytime' and for her own amusement.

In short, Caomhe got her kicks from belittling Josie, while smirking and muttering in front of her, with regards to JJ. Josie felt betrayed by someone she had offered the hand of friendship to, and I do not blame her. She had every right to feel offended and had every right to pull Caoimhe up on it.

And you all support Caoimhe in all that? You all honestly wouldnt have been pissed off if your so called 'friend' had done the same to you? Really?



Even with this aside, Caoimhe has been talking about leaving for a long time (even letting her first 'friend' walk before changing her mind) and clearly gave her reasons for going as being her fear for her relationship based on her actions in the house (HER actions).

The bottom line is, why would Caoimhe be scared that her BF thought that she looked like a flirt and a bitch if she herself didnt think she had been a flirt and a bitch and hadnt crossed a line?

The truth is that she knows she was hated in that house, 7 nom speaks a clear story, and that she knew she had stuck the knife into one of her two only friends in there. She had burned her last bridge.

She knew she was gonna be up, she knew she was gonna go, so she jumped before she was pushed in an effort to protect her own ego.

"She reacted to a deliberate provocation and piss take by a so called 'friend', and she has every right to have a right old bitch about it."
No this isn't true. There was no deliberate provocation. Josie sees EVERYTHING as a provocation or an attack. The slightest thing is enough for her to weep at Corin and Ben's feet. I saw NO provocation from Keeva.

"a 'friend', who knew she has feelings for a bloke"
There was no move. Again this is Josie talk. It was some harmless fun that meant nothing to anyone. Josie complained about Keevas tits being out but Josie threw 2 buckets of water on her chest. Josie knew Keeva was p*ssed but CHOSE to think the worst instead of the best. Josie has form in this area, and it feeds her "poor me" addiction.

"Caomhe got her kicks from belittling Josie, while smirking and muttering in front of her"
There was no belittling. YOU saying there was ISN'T enough proof to make it so. SHe ONCE had a laugh WITH Josie about the alcohol with JJ in the bath but that was clearly Keeva laughing with Josie to get her out of that stupid downer Josie was on OVER NOTHING again.

"She knew she was gonna be up, she knew she was gonna go, so she jumped before she was pushed in an effort to protect her own ego."
Keeva said "I can't stay in this house if Josie thinks I tried to steal her man, that's pathetic". She wasn't on the way out .... Josie stabbed and stabbed every chance she got with ANYONE that came near. After that it was impossible for her to stay when all were blanking her after hearing Josie's "porkies".

[Parmy]

Well assumptions dont make fact.

If they were all facts there wouldn't be much to discuss would there!!!!!

[Zippy]

the bunny boiler left yesterday morning.

Good riddance too!

Dreary, ungrateful HM and devious snake. Quitters are losers IMHO.

[Mystic Mock]

Good riddance too!

Dreary, ungrateful HM and devious snake. Quitters are losers IMHO.

agreed i think its selfish.

[MrWong]

Apart from the diary room where did Caiomhe have to go for sympathy? She'd closed herself off to pretty much everyone in there, apart from JJ who she regularly sought out....and Josie

She didn't seek him out for sympathy though did she?

[WOMBAI]

"She reacted to a deliberate provocation and piss take by a so called 'friend', and she has every right to have a right old bitch about it."
No this isn't true. There was no deliberate provocation. Josie sees EVERYTHING as a provocation or an attack. The slightest thing is enough for her to weep at Corin and Ben's feet. I saw NO provocation from Keeva.

"a 'friend', who knew she has feelings for a bloke"
There was no move. Again this is Josie talk. It was some harmless fun that meant nothing to anyone. Josie complained about Keevas tits being out but Josie threw 2 buckets of water on her chest. Josie knew Keeva was p*ssed but CHOSE to think the worst instead of the best. Josie has form in this area, and it feeds her "poor me" addiction.

"Caomhe got her kicks from belittling Josie, while smirking and muttering in front of her"
There was no belittling. YOU saying there was ISN'T enough proof to make it so. SHe ONCE had a laugh WITH Josie about the alcohol with JJ in the bath but that was clearly Keeva laughing with Josie to get her out of that stupid downer Josie was on OVER NOTHING again.

"She knew she was gonna be up, she knew she was gonna go, so she jumped before she was pushed in an effort to protect her own ego."
Keeva said "I can't stay in this house if Josie thinks I tried to steal her man, that's pathetic". She wasn't on the way out .... Josie stabbed and stabbed every chance she got with ANYONE that came near. After that it was impossible for her to stay when all were blanking her after hearing Josie's "porkies".

This!

[rapunza1977]

What is this weird stance people take where effectively they reason that because Caoimhe was a bitch that means Josie hasn't been.

Yes Caoimhe was a bitch to Sunshine, the others you mention i don't agree with, though she has bitched about her dislike of them but hasn't done much more than that.

Josie has also been a bitch. She's quite the little liar too, something that riles me in a hm. Her OTT reaction to Caoimhe's flirting shocked me tbh as i didn't think she was capable of being such a manipulative cowbag.


At no point have I actually BACKED Josie, my main issue is with Caoimhe. She is like the playground bully, nasty and you can imagine even worse if she has her wolfpack with her. Josie is a bit mental, but, her main issue with iwth Caoimhe. Josie has not bitched about anyway in that house, Caoimhe has with everyone. She has issues with everyone and thought she was better than everyone. I actually do beleive she did this to rile Josie knowing it Josie would snap, which she did. I just think Caoimhe was really horrid hearted :(

[Parmy]

I spout it about the hm's not the fm's, which is what you continue to do.

So... Back to the topic i guess :xyxwave:

what i saw in josie to make me put my bet on her on opening night was a fun loving girl with no boundaries, she seemed fun to be around which i guess she still is.

what I have come to realise with josie is, she doesn't set out any boundaries but by heck you know you have hit one when she turns at the flick off a switch, take her original fall out with jj it was ok with both of them giving out light hearted digs, but then came the 96 chins comment from jj when he reacted to something she said that was below the belt...boundary hit...what ensued was josie undermining jj to everyone who would listen to her at the time.


This was further emphasised with keeva, when keeva started fooling around with jj as mates do...boundary hit....Josie simply tries to be coool by coming across as the fun girl without a care in the world when infact she is the complete opposite. It's all ok if it's josies rules, cross them and hit a boundary and there is hell to pay, it's this part of her personality that i can't stand at the moment as it has an impact, which is so unfair on the people who have crossed the boundary.

[Parmy]

At no point have I actually BACKED Josie, my main issue is with Caoimhe. She is like the playground bully, nasty and you can imagine even worse if she has her wolfpack with her. Josie is a bit mental, but, her main issue with iwth Caoimhe. Josie has not bitched about anyway in that house, Caoimhe has with everyone. She has issues with everyone and thought she was better than everyone. I actually do beleive she did this to rile Josie knowing it Josie would snap, which she did. I just think Caoimhe was really horrid hearted :(

I disagree, you have painted keeva as being a ring leader when infact she is nothing more than a follower.

[watchinittoomuch]

She didn't seek him out for sympathy though did she?

Nah most of the time she just wanted a good bitch.

[WOMBAI]

At no point have I actually BACKED Josie, my main issue is with Caoimhe. She is like the playground bully, nasty and you can imagine even worse if she has her wolfpack with her. Josie is a bit mental, but, her main issue with iwth Caoimhe. Josie has not bitched about anyway in that house, Caoimhe has with everyone. She has issues with everyone and thought she was better than everyone. I actually do beleive she did this to rile Josie knowing it Josie would snap, which she did. I just think Caoimhe was really horrid hearted :(

Josie bitches about everyone - especially if she perceives they pose any threat to her imagined relationsip with JJ!

[watchinittoomuch]

what i saw ion josie to make me put my bet on her on opening night was a fun loving girl with no boundaries, she seemed fun to be around which i guess she still is.

what I have come to realise with josie is, she doesn't set out any boundaries you know you have hit one when she turns at the flick off a switch, take her original fall out with jj it was ok with both of them giving out light hearted digs, but then came the 96 chins comment from jj when he reacted to something she said that was below the belt...boundary hit...what ensued was josie undermining jj to everyone who would listen to her at the time.


This was further emphasised with keeva, when keeva started fooling around with jj as mates do...boundary hit....Josie simply tries to be coool by coming across as the fun girl without a care in the world when infact she is the complete opposite. It's all ok if it's josies rules, cross them and hit a boundary and there is hell to pay, it's this part of her personality that i can't stand at the moment as it has an impact, which is so unfair on the people who have crossed the boundary.


EVERYONE has boundaries...if they didnt people would just walk all over them....which in this case it seems Josie felt Caiomhe was trying to do, or take a liberty with her loyalty at least.

[rapunza1977]

I disagree, you have painted keeva as being a ring leader when infact she is nothing more than a follower.

hmmmmmmmmmmmmm a follower to whom? Some of the nasty things she said where after her sidekick walked?


Plus, she has a typical narcassictic attitude - very self absorbed she never really formed any alliances in there which I think is a reflection of her character, so not think she can, even the Shabby alliance was fake I think as she wanted to allign herself with someone whom she thought would take her to the final week.......then she started latchuing on to others, not a loyal character either as we can see with Shabby ...................... not much going for her actually in terms of personality ............. however cannot be sure as she could be different in the outside world however we have only seen her boyfriend and mother, has she had any friends speaking up for her? I am not sure

[Angus]

what i saw ion josie to make me put my bet on her on opening night was a fun loving girl with no boundaries, she seemed fun to be around which i guess she still is.

what I have come to realise with josie is, she doesn't set out any boundaries you know you have hit one when she turns at the flick off a switch, take her original fall out with jj it was ok with both of them giving out light hearted digs, but then came the 96 chins comment from jj when he reacted to something she said that was below the belt...boundary hit...what ensued was josie undermining jj to everyone who would listen to her at the time.


This was further emphasised with keeva, when keeva started fooling around with jj as mates do...boundary hit....Josie simply tries to be coool by coming across as the fun girl without a care in the world when infact she is the complete opposite. It's all ok if it's josies rules, cross them and hit a boundary and there is hell to pay, it's this part of her personality that i can't stand at the moment as it has an impact, which is so unfair on the people who have crossed the boundary.

Totally agree - Josie manipulates her way through life, she has it down to a fine art now, a bit of poison here, a remark there, a lie to that one, an exaggeration to this one - and she has got her wish - Keeva is gone. Don't get me wrong I couldn't stand Keeva, but Josie in some ways is far worse.
Keeva was an "upfront, self confessed" bitch, but Josie is devious, sly and controlling, and she has taken in a lot of people.

The thing is that once you spot her modus operandi you realise she is a one trick pony, and her every move then becomes completely predictable.

[Parmy]

EVERYONE has boundaries...if they didnt people would just walk all over them....which in this case it seems Josie felt Caiomhe was trying to do, or take a liberty with her loyalty at least.

And that is still josies problem, not keevas, did josie just want keeva to sit in a corner when jj was having fun?

[rapunza1977]

Josie bitches about everyone - especially if she perceives they pose any threat to her imagined relationsip with JJ!

Who though? Ok perhaps missed from Livefeed but yet to see her bitch about Corin? She did not really with Sunshine, ok perhaps the crispgate thing

Anyway my point is I could care less about Josie, I just had issue with nasty people and I believe C is nasty person and not someone you would have as a friend and what I mean is I do not get this whole she is a Victim thing no way os that girl a victim

[watchinittoomuch]

And that is still josies problem, not keevas, did josie just want keeva to sit in a corner when jj was having fun?


I'm not sure...did Caiomhe expect her to sit back and keep her mouth shut when she felt betrayed?

[Parmy]

hmmmmmmmmmmmmm a follower to whom? Some of the nasty things she said where after her sidekick walked?


Plus, she has a typical narcassictic attitude - very self absorbed she never really formed any alliances in there which I think is a reflection of her character, so not think she can, even the Shabby alliance was fake I think as she wanted to allign herself with someone whom she thought would take her to the final week.......then she started latchuing on to others, not a loyal character either as we can see with Shabby ...................... not much going for her actually in terms of personality ............. however cannot be sure as she could be different in the outside world however we have only seen her boyfriend and mother, has she had any friends speaking up for her? I am not sure

what!..it was fake with shabby, lol.come on, the way she has been about the show and the other housemates is down to her loyalty to shabby and the things they discussed together when she was still in the house, keeva for me, has stayed true to those initial thought and opinions.

what others did she latch onto? Are you on about josie and jj, cause i'm sure she was taken in by josie and jj as they saw that she would have been very lonely without them.

[WOMBAI]

Who though? Ok perhaps missed from Livefeed but yet to see her bitch about Corin? She did not really with Sunshine, ok perhaps the crispgate thing

Anyway my point is I could care less about Josie, I just had issue with nasty people and I believe C is nasty person and not someone you would have as a friend and what I mean is I do not get this whole she is a Victim thing no way os that girl a victim

Didn't like Keeva either - but find Josie's behaviour far worse because she is so sneaky and dishonest about the type of person she is! She tries to portray herself as this friendly, easy-going, everybody's friend type - when really she is only interested in herself and her own feelings and will walk-over anyone who gets in her way of getting what she wants! Grade A bitch in my book!

[Parmy]

I'm not sure...did Caiomhe expect her to sit back and keep her mouth shut when she felt betrayed?

No, but i'm guessing when she watches it all back she might be thinking, god, I wish she had came to me first about it.

[Parmy]

All those cheers on opening night have went to the poor girls head.

[ange7]

hmmmmmmmmmmmmm a follower to whom? Some of the nasty things she said where after her sidekick walked?


Plus, she has a typical narcassictic attitude - very self absorbed she never really formed any alliances in there which I think is a reflection of her character, so not think she can, even the Shabby alliance was fake I think as she wanted to allign herself with someone whom she thought would take her to the final week.......then she started latchuing on to others, not a loyal character either as we can see with Shabby ...................... not much going for her actually in terms of personality ............. however cannot be sure as she could be different in the outside world however we have only seen her boyfriend and mother, has she had any friends speaking up for her? I am not sure
"even the Shabby alliance was fake I think as she wanted to allign herself with someone whom she thought would take her to the final week"
nah ... I think they genuinely liked each others company. They were always having a laugh together till Shabby went all "I luuurve you".

[watchinittoomuch]

No, but i'm guessing when she watches it all back she might be thinking, god, I wish she had came to me first about it.

Who knows, hindsight is a wonderful thing but no help to anyone.

I think putting it simply, it's a case of two's company etc etc...I doubt anyone is surprised this whole thing happened...well I'm not anyway :hugesmile:

[zukhov]

Josie and Steve are untouchable in the house, you will never get a chance to vote them out, so suck it up!

[Mystic Mock]

and the highlights also dont show john james following josie around because it would make there josie is a bunny boiler a pile of ****.

[Mystic Mock]

Josie and Steve are untouchable in the house, you will never get a chance to vote them out, so suck it up!

sadly i dont think we will get pop eye aswell.

[Parmy]

Who knows, hindsight is a wonderful thing but no help to anyone.

I think putting it simply, it's a case of two's company etc etc...I doubt anyone is surprised this whole thing happened...well I'm not anyway :hugesmile:

ok, we'll leave it now and both admit i'm right.:thumbs:

[watchinittoomuch]

ok, we'll leave it now and both admit i'm right.:thumbs:

You know hell will freeze over first :hug:

[joeysteele]

All I can see is Josie setting herself up more and more,if this is the true Josie then she's a devious and very nasty piece of work. I can't believe I am saying this but none of it is John James's fault, he has made clear over and over again that he sees her as a friend or Sister,that he wants no romantic links in the house and he really does not encourage Josie at all. I did hold the view that he was maybe using her but I now see that she is the one that uses people. John James head must be going round in circles as tohow to deal with her. He doesn't wnat to reject her totally, to then be accused of treating her badly because of her weight, which she seems to be piling on since being in the house, then she does hardly any exercise.The guy must be near demented and I would be worried if I was him, out of the house she'fd likely tie him up in a barn to keep him to herself totally away from the whole Human race if she could.She has a very unhealthy obsession for JJ and its also taking her over completely.
In John James place, I would have to tell her to get lost,but it seems she is unable to understand English so he'd likely be wasting his breath.Give the guy some space and also on this one,I give him credit for his great patience in not blowing his top over having to put up with having the attentions of this parasitical leech.

[Parmy]

Josie and Steve are untouchable in the house, you will never get a chance to vote them out, so suck it up!

don't worry, I could do this until xmas if need be.:spin:

[ange7]

and the highlights also dont show john james following josie around because it would make there josie is a bunny boiler a pile of ****.
If JJ saw the bitching and number taking that Josie was up to in the last 3 day ( and weeks if you count Josie rubbishing JJ) then he would not go anywhere near her. Watch... Josie will find ANOTHER way to become the victim now that Keeva is out....and it will be her ol'favourite JJ who will cop all her back stabbing "porkies" again. Hope he and the HMs wise up before it's too late. He needs to dump that one.

[Zippy]

I can't believe I am saying this but none of it is John James's fault, he has made clear over and over again that he sees her as a friend or Sister,that he wants no romantic links in the house and he really does not encourage Josie at all.

He's made it clear over and over again? Are you effing serious? Apparently the penny as only just dropped with him that she actually fancies him so how could he have made it clear if he wasn't aware of it?

He lays next to her. He follows her around like a puppy. Everybody makes fun in the house of how dependent he is on her. He shows her affection. He compliments her. All this but apparently she is supposed to be so aware that he doesnt fancy her at all? Bull!

Its really not hard to see how she is messed up about his feelings for her. Its just that some of you are not remotely interested in even seeing it from her point of view. Not in the slightest.

[Parmy]

He's made it clear over and over again? Are you effing serious? Apparently the penny as only just dropped with him that she actually fancies him so how could he have made it clear if he wasn't aware of it?

He lays next to her. He follows her around like a puppy. Everybody makes fun in the house of how dependent he is on her. He shows her affection. He compliments her. All this but apparently she is supposed to be so aware that he doesnt fancy her at all? Bull!

Its really not hard to see how she is messed up about his feelings for her. Its just that some of you are not remotely interested in even seeing it from her point of view. Not in the slightest.

If she's strong enough to make it into the bb house, then surely to **** she's strong enough to ask him outright. she's not 12 even if she does suck her thumb.

[joeysteele]

It doesn't matter where Josie is in the house she is always looking for where JJ is,if she cant see him then she either goes looking or asks anyone and everone where he is and usually adds who's he with, who's he talking to.
John James SEEMS to eend up where she is but that is her manipulating a ''chance'' bumping into her, like in the diary room, she wanted to go home,changed her mond unfortunately again, she came out the diary room, saw JJ not far off, came thotugh the doors and smiled her smile ,he came over and then she flung him I was going home, I aint now though. Definately not JJ doing the following,she plans and manipulates being near to him all the time. He is just being friendly and I dare bet he is turning over and over in his mind how do I get rid of this attention in a positive way because I dont believe he does want to hurt Josie but he has no real or lasting interest in her at all.Other than being friendly and seeing her as a Sister model to him, which if she thought about is a massive compliment really from him.

[rapunza1977]

I do think Josie is horrid, the only genuine one in the house is Corin I think she just gets on with it and has a wee flakey now and again but I think Josie and Caoimhe were on a par - so I will agree to say BOTH are horrid - C is not way an angel or is Josie!

[joeysteele]

He never believed she fancied him thats the whole point, I said earlier he was in denial in that becasue he had never heard ot from her only other people who he likely thought were stirring things, she only in the last few days has really made it clear but then she still skirts around it because she is dreading hearing his final NO on the matter,she has used evryone almost to have him made known as to her feelings but she skirts round them. His head must be going round in circles. She has been very clever,he has always said he saw her as a friend ,a sister, she has acted like they were an item, near warning other women to keep off because she liked him,He has also always said he wants no relationships with anyone in the house at all, so what can she NOT understand about that.Or is she totally stupid as well as being obsessed with someone.

[vesavius]

@ Ange7

She reacted to a deliberate provocation and piss take by a so called 'friend', and she has every right to have a right old bitch about it.

No this isn't true. There was no deliberate provocation.

Yes it is, and there was.

Cahfhfgygy knew 100% that Josie had feelings, she also knew she herself didnt.

The only reason for her to make a move on JJ was to say 'I can have him anytime' and to provoke a reaction for her own amusement.

"a 'friend', who knew she has feelings for a bloke"

There was no move.

We have covered this above.

Caomhe got her kicks from belittling Josie, while smirking and muttering in front of her

There was no belittling. YOU saying there was ISN'T enough proof to make it so.

Last nights HL show, in the bedroom and beyond, displayed 10% of how Cghfgtftgyg is in her muttering, sniping, smirking, and belittling

Did you see it?

Was you proud?

She knew she was gonna be up, she knew she was gonna go, so she jumped before she was pushed in an effort to protect her own ego.

Keeva said "I can't stay in this house if Josie thinks I tried to steal her man, that's pathetic"

Link for this please? I watched this whole conversation never heard her say this and unless I see the footage it didnt happen. I am sorry, I am way beyond trusting just the word of the known haters here.... As you say "YOU saying there was ISN'T enough proof to make it so". I can provide footage of her giving ample other reasons for her leaving if you want it.

Either way, if she said it or not, she left the house because she couldnt face a situation she herself created.

She alienated the house by her actions and attitude.

[Fuzzylogic]

She had the nerve to be attracted to that w***** s**m jj.

haha, i'm a bit confused...what swear word has been censored there as "s**m"???

Spam?

[ange7]

He's made it clear over and over again? Are you effing serious? Apparently the penny as only just dropped with him that she actually fancies him so how could he have made it clear if he wasn't aware of it?

He lays next to her. He follows her around like a puppy. Everybody makes fun in the house of how dependent he is on her. He shows her affection. He compliments her. All this but apparently she is supposed to be so aware that he doesnt fancy her at all? Bull!

Its really not hard to see how she is messed up about his feelings for her. Its just that some of you are not remotely interested in even seeing it from her point of view. Not in the slightest.
"Apparently the penny as only just dropped with him that she actually fancies him so how could he have made it clear if he wasn't aware of it?"
Him knowing and telling Josie that HE has no attraction for her DOESN'T rely on him knowing Josie's feeling.
"some of you are not remotely interested in even seeing it from her point of view"
... so Josie's point of view is what? She flips out over the most nothing situations, tells the gang and they build her up and pat her head saying "oh Josie poor thing, now how big a bitch is (enter name here, usually JJ or Keeva)". Corin laps it up as does Ben. Mario is the only one who sees through it and nominated her saying she went too far.

[chuff me dizzy]

I do think Josie is horrid, the only genuine one in the house is Corin I think she just gets on with it and has a wee flakey now and again but I think Josie and Caoimhe were on a par - so I will agree to say BOTH are horrid - C is not way an angel or is Josie!

nO,NO,NO !!Corin is by far the fakest in there ,utterly vile

[MrBlack]

People who continually talk about caoimhe are just proving the point.

Caoimhe was one of the best HM's in the history of BB..

:spin:

[rapunza1977]

nO,NO,NO !!Corin is by far the fakest in there ,utterly vile



Talk me through it ? Make me see because I cannot

[rapunza1977]

People who continually talk about caoimhe are just proving the point.

Caoimhe was one of the best HM's in the history of BB..

:spin:



YUP.............................and they usually are the biggest twats of the series as well so a job done i guess for her and Shabby...........

[joeysteele]

crumbs ange7, I am in total agreement with you on this one. Daves right mirales can happen.
No seriously I do think John James is not at fault at all on this one, she is so manipulative she has near made him think he can rely on her but she has an ulterior motive to get him all to herself,the other thing she does is ensure other housemates are talking all the time about it so he gets little escape from the subject, I guess in a hope to break him down and get him to do anything for a more quiet life in there with HER support and her being able to parade him as her 'man'. Josie has gone down o=in lots of peoples estimations of her from the early weeks and it is clear why, no man likes this suffocating obsessive treatment and JJ is likely just working out slowly how to tolerate it rather than go full out and really insult her.If he can keep his cool and he will come out the far better eprson, if he blows his top at her then she will destroy him completely in the house and she is trying and slowly building up a support network for her from the other housemates with her nonsense and chats to them about it.She is someone to run a mile from and not to be trusted one bit.I hope as ange7 says JJ sees sense and soon for his own minds sake.

[Parmy]

Talk me through it ? Make me see because I cannot

tan, tits, make up.

[rapunza1977]

tan, tits, make up.



So you judge by what is showing on the outside ? That's a nice quality you have there......................

[WOMBAI]

Whether or not JJ was fully aware of Josie's feelings is not really the issue! It may be a contributing factor - because if he was, he should have had anough sense not to do anything to encourage her - although I am inclined to think he, like a lot of men, is not very tuned in to this sort of emotional thing - the old women are from venus and men from mars condition!

When push comes to shove - Josie is a grown woman who is responsible for her own behaviour! She knows what she wants - and will walk over anyone to get it! She is a fraud who will lie her head off to get people on side - with no conscience whatsoever! How people can justify her behaviour and claim she is 'just being real' defies logic! She is one cool, calculating little bitch!

[Parmy]

So you judge by what is showing on the outside ? That's a nice quality you have there......................

I'm just giving you something to be going on for now.


:thumbs:

[Parmy]

Live feed right now, josie going on again about how she's made an idiot of herself.zzzzzzzzzzzz

[rapunza1977]

I'm just giving you something to be going on for now.


:thumbs:




ain't much sweet heart

tried and failed...........:wavey:

[ange7]

Vesavius.
"The only reason for her to make a move on JJ was to say 'I can have him anytime'"
What move? Where's your argument? Keeva knowing that Josie had feeling for JJ DOESN'T mean she made a move. Like I said it was a harmless laugh, that meant nothing to anyone. Josie tipped 2 buckets of water on Keevas chest and got pissed because she saw her t*ts. There was no move. Your lacking an argument that backs that there was one.

"Last nights HL show, in the bedroom and beyond, displayed 10% of how Cghfgtftgyg is in her muttering, sniping, smirking, and belittling

Did you see it?

Was you proud?"
No I didn't see that. Only you and Josie saw it as anything lke a provokation. You seem to think that KEEVA should not even be allowed to speak to JJ. No way. I saw Keeva telling JJ that the reason she wanted to go was that she couldn't stand the thought that Josie believed she had attempted to take HER man. SHe said it was pathetic. Agreed. JJ and Keevas convo about Steeve and how he knew what it meant to really struggle... again that wasn't a provocation to Josie. Instead of saying "hey did you see that...proud of that?"...why not actually make a point that's not so vague. What are you on about? You seem to think just talking to JJ was enough of a provocation that warrented her crazy and demented hate campaign that involved her rounding up the numbers while smiling to Keeva. "are we ok now keevs?".....5 min s laterto Ben "that f_ing keeva!!!". nuts

me:"Keeva said "I can't stay in this house if Josie thinks I tried to steal her man, that's pathetic"

you:Link for this please?
link to what.... the show? I've got in avi. Did you watch the last 2 episodes?
She said it at least to JJ at the DR door and at least once more after. Maybe the shock made your brain block it out :P

[Parmy]

ain't much sweet heart

tried and failed...........:wavey:

I could go on, but in all honesty this is a josie thread, and corin doesn't deserve any serious debate. she just aint worth it.:sleep:

[WOMBAI]

Live feed right now, josie going on again about how she's made an idiot of herself.zzzzzzzzzzzz

What a manipulative witch! She is actually insulting the intelligence of all of us if she expects us to fall for that old routine again and again and again! How many times does she expect even the most blind of fans to buy that! There has to be a limit- for everyone, surely! :nono:

[vesavius]

Mario is the only one who sees through it and nominated her saying she went too far.

lmao Mario nominated both of them for not talking to each other.

This quote perfectly demonstrates the jaundiced view the haters have on this issue and why it's so hard to them at all seriously :joker:

[rapunza1977]

I could go on, but in all honesty this is a josie thread, and corin doesn't deserve any serious debate. she just aint worth it.:sleep:


go back to your Corin hate thread then and explain...................................as opposed to stating the obvious fake boobage / tan ensemble because thats just :sleep:

[vesavius]

@ ange7

The only reason for her to make a move on JJ was to say 'I can have him anytime'

What move? Where's your argument?


It's the argument I have clearly demonstrated repeatedly.

More to the point, whats your barrier to understanding it?

Last nights HL show, in the bedroom and beyond, displayed 10% of how Cghfgtftgyg is in her muttering, sniping, smirking, and belittling

Did you see it?

Was you proud?"

No I didn't see that.


That simple admission explains a lot. You need to watch the HL show on catch up so your up to speed and we can have an equal 'debate'.


I saw Keeva telling JJ that the reason she wanted to go was that she couldn't stand the thought that Josie believed she had attempted to take HER man.


As I have said, link it or it didnt happen. You wernt prepared to take my word, and I am not willing to take yours.


link to what.... the show?


Erm... to the statement that you was claiming was said ofc... (sorry thought that was obvious :/)

[Peppa.]

i love josie, shes straight forward and real. shes not a bunny boiler shes funny :)

[ange7]

i love josie, shes straight forward and real. shes not a bunny boiler shes funny :)

good post!

[charmingmissc]

just to defuse the situation,

jj and josie stroking each others hair and jj apologizing for making her feel awkward last night.

on live feed.

six of one half a dozen of another.

[WOMBAI]

i love josie, shes straight forward and real. shes not a bunny boiler shes funny :)

:rolleyes:

[James]

I've deleted all the posts which involve insults to other posters or arguments started by that. Warnings and bans have also been dished out. :shocked: Most people don't come on here to be insulted for their opinion.

[Parmy]

go back to your Corin hate thread then and explain...................................as opposed to stating the obvious fake boobage / tan ensemble because thats just :sleep:

sorry, I find it easier to sum someone up in as few words as I can, i think she's fake, probably the fakest in there, it's up to you to show me why she isn't. I don't like to try and change peoples opinions, I just say what I see.

[Parmy]

I've deleted all the posts which involve insults to other posters or arguments started by that. Warnings and bans have also been dished out. :shocked: Most people don't come on here to be insulted for their opinion.

well said james.

IT'S JUST NOT ON.

[calyman]

As someone who has no time for Josie, JJ or Daoimhe, I am delighted at the turn of evnts. Themini me cruella is gone, JJ and Josie now have to worm their way back into each others good graces.

It's the pantomime of the feebleminded and nasty ill suited pair showing no length is too low for either of them to plumb.

[watchinittoomuch]

Ooh I love your avatar it's one of my favourite paintings :)

[MrWong]

@ Ange7



No this isn't true. There was no deliberate provocation.

Yes it is, and there was.

Cahfhfgygy knew 100% that Josie had feelings, she also knew she herself didnt.

The only reason for her to make a move on JJ was to say 'I can have him anytime' and to provoke a reaction for her own amusement.



There was no move.

We have covered this above.



There was no belittling. YOU saying there was ISN'T enough proof to make it so.

Last nights HL show, in the bedroom and beyond, displayed 10% of how Cghfgtftgyg is in her muttering, sniping, smirking, and belittling

Did you see it?

Was you proud?



Keeva said "I can't stay in this house if Josie thinks I tried to steal her man, that's pathetic"

Link for this please? I watched this whole conversation never heard her say this and unless I see the footage it didnt happen. I am sorry, I am way beyond trusting just the word of the known haters here.... As you say "YOU saying there was ISN'T enough proof to make it so". I can provide footage of her giving ample other reasons for her leaving if you want it.

Either way, if she said it or not, she left the house because she couldnt face a situation she herself created.

She alienated the house by her actions and attitude.

Not sure if this is the clip you mean but Caoimhe does say she doesn't want to be in the house anymore because of Josie's accusations and the fact that she's not being very nice about it (Blimey, Caoimhe doesn't even know the half of it, as it was all behind her back) Anyway..

Link: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XI6MJHBirQc

Forward to 41:50

[calyman]

Ooh I love your avatar it's one of my favourite paintings :)

Thanks, Klint did some good stuff.

[-Sue-]

I've deleted all the posts which involve insults to other posters or arguments started by that. Warnings and bans have also been dished out. :shocked: Most people don't come on here to be insulted for their opinion.
You are soo on my xmas card list lol

[Parmy]

You are soo on my xmas card list lol

lol, it was all the josie fans who got it.:spin:..Dunno why though, shame really if people cant take words on a screen.

[-Sue-]

lol, it was all the josie fans who got it.:spin:..Dunno why though, shame really if people cant take words on a screen.

not all of them.. as I am one..im sure whatever was said by fans or FMs was provoked.. they have had enough of coming on here stating an opinion and being insulted..

[Parmy]

not all of them.. as I am one..im sure whatever was said by fans or FMs was provoked.. they have had enough of coming on here stating an opinion and being insulted..

I meant all the josie fans in the thread, sorry i could have explained it better.

But alas they never stated..sorry got to go, daves jsut burst into tears on live feed, this is too funny to miss.:xyxwave:

[-Sue-]

I meant all the josie fans in the thread, sorry i could have explained it better.

But alas they never stated..sorry got to go, daves jsut burst into tears on live feed, this is too funny to miss.:xyxwave:

LOL @ dave in tears.. lol maybe the lord has just banished him from kingdom of heaven for being a d*ck lol

[Parmy]

ahh, thats better, that was really funny, dave crying about a bloody glee song being comforted by corin. You could just see it on her face "**** off dave i'm still buzzin from the task and i need a fag.

[chuff me dizzy]

i love josie, shes straight forward and real. shes not a bunny boiler shes funny :)

She not a bunny boiler ? :shocked::shocked::shocked::shocked: are you joking ? ffs

[chuff me dizzy]

ahh, thats better, that was really funny, dave crying about a bloody glee song being comforted by corin. You could just see it on her face "**** off dave i'm still buzzin from the task and i need a fag.

2 FULL BLOWN fakes together

[WOMBAI]

Not sure if this is the clip you mean but Caoimhe does say she doesn't want to be in the house anymore because of Josie's accusations and the fact that she's not being very nice about it (Blimey, Caoimhe doesn't even know the half of it, as it was all behind her back) Anyway..

Link: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XI6MJHBirQc

Forward to 41:50

:thumbs: