Help please !

[chuff me dizzy]

On the end of hls ,Josie and Andrew were talking about someone (was it JJ ?)and Andrew asked Josie who was best looking (?)and she said "You" who were they talking about ? I seemed to think it was JJ ,am I right or wrong ? Thank you

[BJ]

They were flirting in a jokey, friendly way as they often do. They seem to get on well and Andrew obviously have a crush on her. They were talking about JJ and Andrew said who's better looking. Josie said "you" to Andrew. She was joking but I think she was genuinely touched when he said earlier he'd like a girl like her he could have fun and a joke with

[chuff me dizzy]

They were flirting in a jokey, friendly way as they often do. They seem to get on well and Andrew obviously have a crush on her. They were talking about JJ and Andrew said who's better looking. Josie said "you" to Andrew. She was joking but I think she was genuinely touched when he said earlier he'd like a girl like her he could have fun and a joke with

Shes leading him on in a cruel way ,I thought thats what was said ,She didnt sound like she was "joking" she sounded like she was leading him on again ,she knows he will never nominate her........ very cruel

[Kaaarenn!]

Josie also said she would never have a relationsjip with John ... Yeah right :laugh:

[chuff me dizzy]

Josie also said she would never have a relationsjip with John ... Yeah right :laugh:

As i said,shes leading Andrew on ,it awful ,feel sorry for the lad ,on lf she asking him if hes a virgin.......why ?

[Visage]

It had me puzzled!

[fruit_cake]

Shes leading him on in a cruel way ,I thought thats what was said ,She didnt sound like she was "joking" she sounded like she was leading him on again ,she knows he will never nominate her........ very cruel

when Andrew started his rant about the other Andrew the Dancer, Josie finished her drink, got up and walked of cutting him of while he was in mid sentence asking Corin where her lighter was.. :joker:

i guess his use had finished for the night!!!

[rusticgal]

She is playing him....unless he knows it and is playing along too.Not sure...

[chuff me dizzy]

She is playing him....unless he knows it and is playing along too.Not sure...

i dont think for one second he knows ,the other night when she had been backstabbing JJ to him ,he turned on JJ and she walked out of the bedroom ,I was screaming at the tv "Dont fall for it Andrew"Poor lad

[poejoe]

she the bitch

[joeysteele]

THis lady is possibly even more a mind player and liar than MAKOSI from BB6,she was nicknamed, MaGROSSi.the name could easily apply to Josie too.Deadly.

[jjj2]

its just something to keep her amused when she is not chasing jj.making him look foolish dose not matter to her

[vesavius]

Shes leading him on in a cruel way

No she isnt.

You just didnt get their joke.

They were joking. Together.

They both understood it was a joke.

You obviously just didnt.



Now... lets talk about JJ's abuse of Josie, his leading her on, and his emotional vampirism?

That quite obviously is very serious.

[toby843]

No she isnt.

You just didnt get their joke.

They were joking. Together.

They both understood it was a joke.

You obviously just didnt.



Now... lets talk about JJ's abuse of Josie, his leading her on, and his emotional vampirism?

That quite obviously is very serious.


I'm sorry but I see it the other way round. For instance, in bed the other night, Josie says "I've got feelings for you" then JJ asks what kind and she says "I dunno, you're my friend and I'm yours"
She soes it all the time. Gives him, or someone else, enough of a carrot to keep them ineterested then makes out like its nothing, then wanders off to someone else and talks about how she's not good enough for anyone, how she looks stupid, or say "lets have a reality check here". She is trying to get people to tell her she's good looking, which she isn't. And she's trying to get the underdog sympathy vote. She knows exactly what she's doing and its not very nice. I'm sure a few people will agree with me when I see we are seeing a new side to JJ. He actually is coming across as one of the more compassionate HM's and sticks up for the people he gets on with without fail. Josie is truly milking it and making a fool of him.

[Jordan.]

I think its pretty obvious they both just like to have a flirty joke together, no way is Josie leading him on :rolleyes:

[fruit_cake]

Josie is just using him, she's got no interest at all in him as a person.. when he started ranting she finished her drink and walked of looking for a lighter at least Corin was polite enough to pretend to be interested!!!

[vesavius]

Josie is just using him, she's got no interest at all in him as a person..

No she isnt.

You just didnt get their joke.

They were joking. Together.

They both understood it was a joke.

You obviously just didnt.

[chuff me dizzy]

I'm sorry but I see it the other way round. For instance, in bed the other night, Josie says "I've got feelings for you" then JJ asks what kind and she says "I dunno, you're my friend and I'm yours"
She soes it all the time. Gives him, or someone else, enough of a carrot to keep them ineterested then makes out like its nothing, then wanders off to someone else and talks about how she's not good enough for anyone, how she looks stupid, or say "lets have a reality check here". She is trying to get people to tell her she's good looking, which she isn't. And she's trying to get the underdog sympathy vote. She knows exactly what she's doing and its not very nice. I'm sure a few people will agree with me when I see we are seeing a new side to JJ. He actually is coming across as one of the more compassionate HM's and sticks up for the people he gets on with without fail. Josie is truly milking it and making a fool of him.

VERY true ,all the "I must look a proper cow"is all for people to tell her shes amazing,all "I am a good person"JJ is not stupid and I think (and hope)he will wise up to her game,Its Andrew i feel most sorry for ,shes an older woman ,shes flashing her tits at him ,cuddling him ,making out there could be something between them and hes fell for it ,hook,line,sinker

[rapunza1977]

VERY true ,all the "I must look a proper cow"is all for people to tell her shes amazing,all "I am a good person"JJ is not stupid and I think (and hope)he will wise up to her game,Its Andrew i feel most sorry for ,shes an older woman ,shes flashing her tits at him ,cuddling him ,making out there could be something between them and hes fell for it ,hook,line,sinker



Aw come off it get a grip! Andrew is hardly 12! Think he is old enough to deal with it himself and the way you are going on you think hei s some poor little lost boy give the guy a bit of credit please....................

:shocked:

[chuff me dizzy]

Last night she said to JJ on hls "You are a brilliant snuggler 10 out of 10"the other day she told JJ that Mario "Is the best snuggler in here ,hes amazing"

[Niamh.]

Shes leading him on in a cruel way ,I thought thats what was said ,She didnt sound like she was "joking" she sounded like she was leading him on again ,she knows he will never nominate her........ very cruel

You know what annoys me about this, is JJ is already being accused by people of leading Josie on when he's clearly aware of that fact and is worried about it where as it's all just a bit of a joke the way Josie behaves with Andrew when he clearly fancies her, She is leading him on far more than JJ is leading Josie on.

[ange7]

I'm sorry but I see it the other way round. For instance, in bed the other night, Josie says "I've got feelings for you" then JJ asks what kind and she says "I dunno, you're my friend and I'm yours"
She soes it all the time. Gives him, or someone else, enough of a carrot to keep them ineterested then makes out like its nothing, then wanders off to someone else and talks about how she's not good enough for anyone, how she looks stupid, or say "lets have a reality check here". She is trying to get people to tell her she's good looking, which she isn't. And she's trying to get the underdog sympathy vote. She knows exactly what she's doing and its not very nice. I'm sure a few people will agree with me when I see we are seeing a new side to JJ. He actually is coming across as one of the more compassionate HM's and sticks up for the people he gets on with without fail. Josie is truly milking it and making a fool of him.

Agree with you. It's a win win for Josie when she asks people about her looks. If they praise her she'll get a boost. If they are real like Dave was when Josie brought up her own weight, then Josie can act the poor thumb sucking victim.

[chuff me dizzy]

Aw come off it get a grip! Andrew is hardly 12! Think he is old enough to deal with it himself and the way you are going on you think hei s some poor little lost boy give the guy a bit of credit please....................

:shocked:

Do you think hes a "man of the world" no he isnt ,hes young,shy,geeky and vulnerable ,shes using him to try to get to JJ

[chuff me dizzy]

You know what annoys me about this, is JJ is already being accused by people of leading Josie on when he's clearly aware of that fact and is worried about it where as it's all just a bit of a joke the way Josie behaves with Andrew when he clearly fancies her, She is leading him on far more than JJ is leading Josie on.

I spotted in bed on hls ,it was HER doing all the cooing ,and fondling ,you can see from his body language JJ does not fancy her ,he is not close to anyone really in there and he clings to her as his best mate,nothing else

[Beso]

andrew obviously fancies her, and josie is playing a very dangerous game by leading him on.

[Niamh.]

I spotted in bed on hls ,it was HER doing all the cooing ,and fondling ,you can see from his body language JJ does not fancy her ,he is not close to anyone really in there and he clings to her as his best mate,nothing else

yep and if he pushed her away or told to stop he'd be the worst in the world, he's stuck between a rock and hard place atm.

[ange7]

You know what annoys me about this, is JJ is already being accused by people of leading Josie on when he's clearly aware of that fact and is worried about it where as it's all just a bit of a joke the way Josie behaves with Andrew when he clearly fancies her, She is leading him on far more than JJ is leading Josie on.
Yeah agree...Those claims are crazy. He's told her at least 3 times he sees her as a sister and has told others that he doesn't see her that way. Josie knows exactly where she stands. This all "leading her on" rubbish popped up when JJ in the DR said "I don't want to appear as though I am". Some latched onto that and ignored the fact that JJ HAS told her loads of times that he ain't into her...."that way".

[fruit_cake]

if he doesn't like her he should keep his distance...but she deserves everything that comes to her

[Niamh.]

Yeah agree...Those claims are crazy. He's told her at least 3 times he sees her as a sister and has told others that he doesn't see her that way. Josie knows exactly where she stands. This all "leading her on" rubbish popped up when JJ in the DR said "I don't want to appear as though I am". Some latched onto that and ignored the fact that JJ HAS told her loads of times that he ain't into her...."that way".

Yes and the fact that he's actually worried about and aware that he could be doing it, to me proves that he is not leading her on at all. Josie thinking that she's not doing anything wrong with Andrew is far worse imo.

[rapunza1977]

Do you think hes a "man of the world" no he isnt ,hes young,shy,geeky and vulnerable ,shes using him to try to get to JJ

I think you are underestimating him and insulting him to be honest.

I am sure he could wipe the floor with any of us.

Not a fan of josie but I do not believe for one minute Andrew believes she is interested and I think we should actually give Andrew more credit.

A geek? Vulnerable? If he was so vulnerable believe me he would not be on a show like this.

[fruit_cake]

Andrew is just an object to Josie shes using him like a tin opener to open up JJ

[fruit_cake]

I think you are underestimating him and insulting him to be honest.

I am sure he could wipe the floor with any of us.

Not a fan of josie but I do not believe for one minute Andrew believes she is interested and I think we should actually give Andrew more credit.

A geek? Vulnerable? If he was so vulnerable believe me he would not be on a show like this.

you obviously didn't see LF when Caoimhe told him Josie liked JJ.. you could see his heart break in two!!

[Niamh.]

I think you are underestimating him and insulting him to be honest.

I am sure he could wipe the floor with any of us.

Not a fan of josie but I do not believe for one minute Andrew believes she is interested and I think we should actually give Andrew more credit.

A geek? Vulnerable? If he was so vulnerable believe me he would not be on a show like this.

You may be right but the point I was trying to make about it is that she doesn't deserve any sympathy from anyone for JJ (allegedly) leading her on when she is doing the same (in fact worse imo) to Andrew.

[troy4783]

who guys are unbelievable they were just messing around and having a laugh how was she leading him on everything josie does people think she is up to something

[ange7]

who guys are unbelievable they were just messing around and having a laugh how was she leading him on everything josie does people think she is up to something
the first 3 or 4 times then yeah I'd agree with you that it was a laugh. But now she's kind of taking the p*ss out of andy. Josie is probably clueless that andy might be into her but that's Josie... she lacks empathy.

[watchinittoomuch]

I fail to see how Josie having a bit of banter with Andrew even equates to the same as , or worse, than JJ cuddling in to her, being really touchy feely with her, and constantly giving her mixed signals in terms of leading someone on?

REALLY?

So if you had 2 blokes around you, and one was having a laugh with you and saying stuff, and the other was cuddling you and stroking your hair etc, you'd think the one chatting to you was into you?

Bollerx.

[troy4783]

the first 3 or 4 times then yeah I'd agree with you that it was a laugh. But now she's kind of taking the p*ss out of andy. Josie is probably clueless that andy might be into her but that's Josie... she lacks empathy.

i am sure if andrew had a problem with it he would say something to josie the other Hm or in the diary room also she has not taken the piss out of him that many times its banter most people do it with their friends

[Niamh.]

I fail to see how Josie having a bit of banter with Andrew even equates to the same as , or worse, than JJ cuddling in to her, being really touchy feely with her, and constantly giving her mixed signals in terms of leading someone on?

REALLY?

So if you had 2 blokes around you, and one was having a laugh with you and saying stuff, and the other was cuddling you and stroking your hair etc, you'd think the one chatting to you was into you?

Bollerx.

It's only banter on Josies side imo though, I really do think that Andrew fancies her. This the problem I have with Josie in general, she does everything with a smile so it's just a "joke" she bitches while laughing so it's not really bitching, she flirts while laughing so it's not really flirting

[Niamh.]

i am sure if andrew had a problem with it he would say something to josie the other Hm or in the diary room also she has not taken the piss out of him that many times its banter most people do it with their friends

I'm sure he doesn't have a problem with it, most people who are being led on don't.

[watchinittoomuch]

It's only banter on Josies side imo though, I really do think that Andrew fancies her. This the problem I have with Josie in general, she does everything with a smile so it's just a "joke" she bitches while laughing so it's not really bitching, she flirts while laughing so it's not really flirting

I see what you're saying, but Josie really does fancy JJ too, so how is him being extremely close physically to her, and all the touching and cuddling, not worse?

[troy4783]

I'm sure he doesn't have a problem with it, most people who are being led on don't.

how is she leading him on though

[Niamh.]

I see what you're saying, but Josie really does fancy JJ too, so how is him being extremely close physically to her, and all the touching and cuddling, not worse?

Yeah you are right but JJ is fully aware of the fact the he could be leading her on and he doesn't know what to do, I think (imo of course) he is wrestling with the dilemma of which would be worse, to carry on the way they've always acted before he knew she fancied him or stop it and risk embarrassing her and making her feel awkward.

[Niamh.]

how is she leading him on though

eh by telling him he's better looking than JJ, by holding his hand etc

[watchinittoomuch]

Yeah you are right but JJ is fully aware of the fact the he could be leading her on and he doesn't know what to do, I think (imo of course) he is wrestling with the dilemma of which would be worse, to carry on the way they've always acted before he knew she fancied him or stop it and risk embarrassing her and making her feel awkward.

Well if he's fully aware of it and it STILL doing it, then it's far more dangerous.

If there is ever a conversation between Josie and Andrew, where Andrew tells her how he feels about her, and she STILL has this banter/flirtation with him, maybe then she'll be doing the same. Until then though, she's nowhere near giving him the wrong impression....it is plain to anyone in that house that Josie likes JJ, including Andrew, and JJ aswell.

[Niamh.]

Well if he's fully aware of it and it STILL doing it, then it's far more dangerous.

If there is ever a conversation between Josie and Andrew, where Andrew tells her how he feels about her, and she STILL has this banter/flirtation with him, maybe then she'll be doing the same. Until then though, she's nowhere near giving him the wrong impression....it is plain to anyone in that house that Josie likes JJ, including Andrew, and JJ aswell.

Well that depends on how you look at it I suppose. I mean I never saw what JJ was doing with Josie as flirting tbh he was acting close and friendly to her in much the same way Ben and Dave carry on with eachother. And it's Josie who acts more cosy with him. Yes he is aware that it could be seen as him leading her on now that she's told him she fancies him but, and I realize I am repeating myself here, he's trying to decide on which is worse, telling her to stop and really embarrassing her on national TV or just letting her carry on as they always have. Again It's all a matter of opinion but If I try to put myself in her shoes I think him telling me on TV in front of a whole nation to stop cuddling him would be worse.

[watchinittoomuch]

Well that depends on how you look at it I suppose. I mean I never saw what JJ was doing with Josie as flirting tbh he was acting close and friendly to her in much the same way Ben and Dave carry on with eachother. And it's Josie who acts more cosy with him. Yes he is aware that it could be seen as him leading her on now that she's told him she fancies him but, and I realize I am repeating myself here, he's trying to decide on which is worse, telling her to stop and really embarrassing her on national TV or just letting her carry on as they always have. Again It's all a matter of opinion but If I try to put myself in her shows I think him telling me on TV in front of a whole nation to stop cuddling him would be worse.


I felt the same until I saw the highlights last night, and the closeness and cuddling in the bed...proper arms wrapped around eachother in bed cuddling, not just one person squishing in...you just dont do that with 'mates' :/

[Niamh.]

I felt the same until I saw the highlights last night, and the closeness and cuddling in the bed...proper arms wrapped around eachother in bed cuddling, not just one person squishing in...you just dont do that with 'mates' :/

I actually missed last nights Hls so I can't comment on it either way. And you may be right, but I still do believe he is in a very difficult situation.

[watchinittoomuch]

I actually missed last nights Hls so I can't comment on it either way. And you may be right, but I still do believe he is in a very difficult situation.


Yeah I suppose he is...and I'm not sure he doesnt like her tbh, I just cant work it out.

[troy4783]

eh by telling him he's better looking than JJ, by holding his hand etcoh my gosh its banter and i dont think she even knows he fancies her

[Niamh.]

Yeah I suppose he is...and I'm not sure he doesnt like her tbh, I just cant work it out.

I think he's bit confused actually, I think he probably doesn't but I'd imagine being in there and the HMs being the only people in the world for them atm can play tricks with your head and I think it's hard to know what you feel really

[Niamh.]

oh my gosh its banter and i dont think she even knows he fancies her

It's just my take on the situation

[watchinittoomuch]

I think he's bit confused actually, I think he probably doesn't but I'd imagine being in there and the HMs being the only people in the world for them atm can play tricks with your head and I think it's hard to know what you feel really

I think they both are, I've heard them both say so many times that nothing in there is 'real'...he's a funny one...I just dont understand why he asks her so many questions about it either :confused:

[Niamh.]

I think they both are, I've heard them both say so many times that nothing in there is 'real'...he's a funny one...I just dont understand why he asks her so many questions about it either :confused:

Maybe he is just trying to get things clear in his head and maybe I'm completely wrong and he is messing with her, who knows? What I do know though is, in a house of extremely dull HMs he has entertained me the most!

[watchinittoomuch]

Maybe he is just trying to get things clear in his head and maybe I'm completely wrong and he is messing with her, who knows? What I do know though is, in a house of extremely dull HMs he has entertained me the most!

Funny what different stuff people see in others innit?

I like housemates that make me laugh...that's part of the reason I never took to Caiomhe, not once did she make me laugh, not even a smile....same with JJ, I cant think of one funny thing that he's done...having said that I dont dislike him, just cant see the attraction or how he's been enterntaining....but Josie, she's cracked me up, and so has Ben, and that's why I've taken to them and can continue to like them even when their faults are on show...I dunno...maybe comedy makes them more human to me or summat :shrug:

[chuff me dizzy]

yep and if he pushed her away or told to stop he'd be the worst in the world, he's stuck between a rock and hard place atm.

Exactly,damned if he does and damned if he doesnt,it must be spoiling the experience for him

[chuff me dizzy]

Andrew is just an object to Josie shes using him like a tin opener to open up JJ

Yes she is,its Noirin /Slee/Mucus over again

[watchinittoomuch]

Yes she is,its Noirin /Slee/Mucus over again

Oh but it's ok for JJ to touch and cuddle Josie? That's NOT leading her on but a bit of banter is?

You need to get some perspective on this.

[chuff me dizzy]

Oh but it's ok for JJ to touch and cuddle Josie? That's NOT leading her on but a bit of banter is?

You need to get some perspective on this.

She is the one doing the leading on ,its her who does all the cooing,her whos doing all the stroking,her whos also leading Andrew on ,watch the body language ,and learn !!

[watchinittoomuch]

She is the one doing the leading on ,its her who does all the cooing,her whos doing all the stroking,her whos also leading Andrew on ,watch the body language ,and learn !!

So when JJ is cuddling HER back, stroking HER hair, telling HER he wouldnt want to be there without HER, what body language is that sending out?

Rewatch last night's highlights, it was mutual affection...you might learn eh.

[Niamh.]

Funny what different stuff people see in others innit?

I like housemates that make me laugh...that's part of the reason I never took to Caiomhe, not once did she make me laugh, not even a smile....same with JJ, I cant think of one funny thing that he's done...having said that I dont dislike him, just cant see the attraction or how he's been enterntaining....but Josie, she's cracked me up, and so has Ben, and that's why I've taken to them and can continue to like them even when their faults are on show...I dunno...maybe comedy makes them more human to me or summat :shrug:

Well yeah but it would be a very boring world if we all saw the same in people plus you would find half the world being hated by everybody haha!

I do like people who make me laugh, like Brian Dowling and Kate lawlor are my all time favourite HMs and they both made me laugh alot None of the HMs I find very funny this year tbh, maybe I just have a different sense of humour to you but I don't see how Josie has been funny, Ben either for the most part, though the one time I laughed at something this series was when he did his impression of JJ arguing with himself!!

If there was someone in there who did actually make me laugh alot, then they would probably be favourite but as there isn't someone like that there I choose JJ as my favourite cos I find him most interesting.

[chuff me dizzy]

So when JJ is cuddling HER back, stroking HER hair, telling HER he wouldnt want to be there without HER, what body language is that sending out?

Rewatch last night's higlights, it was mutual affection...you might learn eh.

FAR from mutual ,he is worried about upsetting her, you wait while he gets out and sees the lies she told him ,he will be on the 1st plane back to Oz

[watchinittoomuch]

Well yeah but it would be a very boring world if we all saw the same in people plus you would find half the world being hated by everybody haha!

I do like people who make me laugh, like Brian Dowling and Kate lawlor are my all time favourite HMs and they both made me laugh alot None of the HMs I find very funny this year tbh, maybe I just have a different sense of humour to you but I don't see how Josie has been funny, Ben either for the most part, though the one time I laughed at something this series was when he did his impression of JJ arguing with himself!!

If there was someone in there who did actually make me laugh alot, then they would probably be favourite but as there isn't someone like that there I choose JJ as my favourite cos I find him most interesting.

He is quite interesting for me..in a 'omg how many issues has this fella got?' kinda way...the more I hear him talking about his life (That is the ONE great thing about him and Josie compared to the rest of the housemates, they have loads of conversations about heir lives and the outside world, whereas the rest cant seem to see past being in the BB house), the more I see how he's the product of stuff that's happened to him.

Josie was so funny with her task with the robot, trying to get her suit on and leg it from the robot at the same time...and Ben, well, I love how he mimics the others, I cant take bitching seriously when it comes hand in hand with impressions aswell :laugh:

[watchinittoomuch]

FAR from mutual ,he is worried about upsetting her, you wait while he gets out and sees the lies she told him ,he will be on the 1st plane back to Oz

See this is where the hypocrisy is! HE cuddles her loads but its ok he doesnt want to upset her..Josie has banter with Andrew but she's leading him on? Maybe she doesnt want to tupset him? Maybe she doesnt think for one minute he REALLY likes her and is reading anything in to what she says?

How can you be so positive on what the housemates are THINKING?

[Niamh.]

He is quite interesting for me..in a 'omg how many issues has this fella got?' kinda way...the more I hear him talking about his life (That is the ONE great thing about him and Josie compared to the rest of the housemates, they have loads of conversations about heir lives and the outside world, whereas the rest cant seem to see past being in the BB house), the more I see how he's the product of stuff that's happened to him.

Josie was so funny with her task with the robot, trying to get her suit on and leg it from the robot at the same time...and Ben, well, I love how he mimics the others, I cant take bitching seriously when it comes hand in hand with impressions aswell :laugh:

yeah I just get this feeling that she's not genuine and is acting for the cameras when she's trying to be funny though, which is why that kind of thing didn't make me laugh, just roll my eyes. I think that especially when she's in the diary room. Like last week she said something about leaving in there and what she was talking about was a serious subject but she stuck in a joke in the middle of it but it was like a joke that she didn't realise was funny (but I think she did realize it was but was doing the I'm so silly I didn't even realize people would think that was funny bit) I don't know If that makes sense, it's hard to describe my feelings on it!

[watchinittoomuch]

yeah I just get this feeling that she's not genuine and is acting for the cameras when she's trying to be funny though, which is why that kind of thing didn't make me laugh, just roll my eyes. I think that especially when she's in the diary room. Like last week she said something about leaving in there and what she was talking about was a serious subject but she stuck in a joke in the middle of it but it was like a joke that she didn't realise was funny (but I think she did realize it was but was doing the I'm so silly I didn't even realize people would think that was funny bit) I don't know If that makes sense, it's hard to describe my feelings on it!

:laugh: See I thought Shabby was like tht ^^^...all a bit 'put on'....then I started to warm to her and the bugger walked out :rolleyes:

[Niamh.]

:laugh: See I thought Shabby was like tht ^^^...all a bit 'put on'....then I started to warm to her and the bugger walked out :rolleyes:

haha, well, that's one HM that we seemed to share the same opinion of anyway!:joker:

[watchinittoomuch]

haha, well, that's one HM that we seemed to share the same opinion of anyway!:joker:

I know...its mad I see some people posting on here, housemates they've liked in past BBs and that, and theyre the same as me...and then I see who they support now, and I'm like 'how the **** did that happen? ' :confused:

You liked BB2, 3 & 5 like me didnt you?

Who were your fave housemtes?

[Niamh.]

I know...its mad I see some people posting on here, housemates they've liked in past BBs and that, and theyre the same as me...and then I see who they support now, and I'm like 'how the **** did that happen? ' :confused:

You liked BB2, 3 & 5 like me didnt you?

Who were your fave housemtes?

Yes! my top 3!!

Brian Dowling was my Favourite in 2 (I really liked Helen as well though)

Kate Lawlor in 3

and 5 hhhmmmmm I loved that series because of its dramatics and pure entertainment but I really couldn't warm to any of them, Michelle was alright but a bit bunny boilerish and Stuart seemed sweet but booooooooooring!

How about you?

[watchinittoomuch]

Yes! my top 3!!

Brian Dowling was my Favourite in 2 (I really liked Helen as well though)

Kate Lawlor in 3

and 5 hhhmmmmm I loved that series because of its dramatics and pure entertainment but I really couldn't warm to any of them, Michelle was alright but a bit bunny boilerish and Stuart seemed sweet but booooooooooring!

How about you?

BB2 Brian and Helen (loved Bubble too and was gobsmacked when he went lol)

BB3 Jonny and Alison (was gobsmacked when she went an all )

BB5 Nadia...loved Emma too...hated Jason and Victor at the time but in restrospect can see what brilliant housemates they were....I think that for me is the one house where ALL the housemates had a real impact on what was going on..

[Niamh.]

BB2 Brian and Helen (loved Bubble too and was gobsmacked when he went lol)

BB3 Jonny and Alison (was gobsmacked when she went an all )

BB5 Nadia...loved Emma too...hated Jason and Victor at the time but in restrospect can see what brilliant housemates they were....I think that for me is the one house where ALL the housemates had a real impact on what was going on..

Victor was probably the most entertaining that year for me. nadia annoyed the crap out of me though!! But like I said I didn't find them to be a likeable bunch in general but soooooooooooo entertaining

[chuff me dizzy]

Well yeah but it would be a very boring world if we all saw the same in people plus you would find half the world being hated by everybody haha!

I do like people who make me laugh, like Brian Dowling and Kate lawlor are my all time favourite HMs and they both made me laugh alot None of the HMs I find very funny this year tbh, maybe I just have a different sense of humour to you but I don't see how Josie has been funny, Ben either for the most part, though the one time I laughed at something this series was when he did his impression of JJ arguing with himself!!

If there was someone in there who did actually make me laugh alot, then they would probably be favourite but as there isn't someone like that there I choose JJ as my favourite cos I find him most interesting.

Agree,there is no one in there who makes me smile never mind laugh ,they ALL apart from JJ make me cringe ,Worst set of hm8s ever ,i think this years bores even beat bb4 ,and THATS saying something ,JJ is by far the only one entertaining in there ,and i value his honesty

[chuff me dizzy]

See this is where the hypocrisy is! HE cuddles her loads but its ok he doesnt want to upset her..Josie has banter with Andrew but she's leading him on? Maybe she doesnt want to tupset him? Maybe she doesnt think for one minute he REALLY likes her and is reading anything in to what she says?

How can you be so positive on what the housemates are THINKING?

Of course i cant and im not arrogant enough to say i do ,i se what i see ,it may not be the same as you ,but its still my opinion ,but its FAR from banter with Andrew ,shes using him ,and its degrading

[stoney]

No she isnt.

You just didnt get their joke.

They were joking. Together.

They both understood it was a joke.

You obviously just didnt.

i know Josie does but think that there is a little bitty of Andrew that thinks he is in there. Remember he does not have much experience with girls.

I really hope that he does realise Josie is simply having a laugh WITH him, not at him as some are suggesting.

[watchinittoomuch]

Of course i cant and im not arrogant enough to say i do ,i se what i see ,it may not be the same as you ,but its still my opinion ,but its FAR from banter with Andrew ,shes using him ,and its degrading

In that case by your own logic JJ must be using Josie aswell.

[stoney]

I spotted in bed on hls ,it was HER doing all the cooing ,and fondling ,you can see from his body language JJ does not fancy her ,he is not close to anyone really in there and he clings to her as his best mate,nothing else

did you think the same about their stuff in the snug from th HL show just before they were all called into the LR to be told there would be no eviction this week, when they were rubbing each others heads:conf:

I really thought they were both getting a little more touchy feely and it was going to lead somewhere:blush:

[stoney]

Yeah agree...Those claims are crazy. He's told her at least 3 times he sees her as a sister and has told others that he doesn't see her that way. Josie knows exactly where she stands. This all "leading her on" rubbish popped up when JJ in the DR said "I don't want to appear as though I am". Some latched onto that and ignored the fact that JJ HAS told her loads of times that he ain't into her...."that way".

He has also said at least once that maybe he is just kidding himself and maybe he does have feelings for Josie 9 not direct quote but it was along those lines to Mario)

[chuff me dizzy]

In that case by your own logic JJ must be using Josie aswell.

No ,not at all

[chuff me dizzy]

i know Josie does but think that there is a little bitty of Andrew that thinks he is in there. Remember he does not have much experience with girls.

I really hope that he does realise Josie is simply having a laugh WITH him, not at him as some are suggesting.

Shes talking to him in serious voice ,i dont think for a split second he knows shes joking ,as I always told my children when they were small "A joke is only funny if both people are laughing"Josies laughing,Andrews not

[watchinittoomuch]

No ,not at all


Why? Oh right...you like JJ so he can act as he pleases and you also know what he's thinking so he can get in bed with the girl and cuddle her all he likes, and it's not leading her on/giving her mixed messages at all.

But you dont like Josie so she's a cowson for anything she does, even if it's mild in comparison.

[chuff me dizzy]

Why? Oh right...you like JJ so he can act as he pleases and you also know what he's thinking so he can get in bed with the girl and cuddle her all he likes, and it's not leading her on/giving her mixed messages at all.

But you dont like Josie so she's a cowson for anything she does, even if it's mild in comparison.

Dont put words into my mouth ,In this case I think Josie is being sly with JJ and nasty with Andrew ,and shes using them both ......you wont change my mind

[vesavius]

Shes talking to him in serious voice

It's called deadpanning. It's quite an advanced humour technique and it was obviously missed by a lot of people around here, obviously whooshing right over them.

You just didnt get their joke.

They were joking. Together.

They both understood it was a joke.

You obviously just didnt.



Now... lets talk about JJ's abuse of Josie, his leading her on, and his emotional vampirism?

That quite obviously is very serious.

[vesavius]

you wont change my mind

Now thats a shock.

[watchinittoomuch]

Dont put words into my mouth ,In this case I think Josie is being sly with JJ and nasty with Andrew ,and shes using them both ......you wont change my mind

I'm not trying to change your mind....it just amazes me how you cant see what JJ does as questionable when it is above and beyond anything that Josie has done in a similar situation. JJ IS fallible, and his actions more than contradict his words.

[chuff me dizzy]

Now thats a shock.

:kiss: Love you :hug:

[chuff me dizzy]

I'm not trying to change your mind....it just amazes me how you cant see what JJ does as questionable when it is above and beyond anything that Josie has done in a similar situation. JJ IS fallible, and his actions more than contradict his words.

Lets agree to disagree

[vesavius]

:kiss: Love you :hug:

;)

[chuff me dizzy]

Right im going to get some work done !! see you all soon xxxxxx

[elliebrew]

you past help chuff...your well and truely fcuked! LOL

[stoney]

Shes talking to him in serious voice ,i dont think for a split second he knows shes joking ,as I always told my children when they were small "A joke is only funny if both people are laughing"Josies laughing,Andrews not

I really cant make up my mind if he thinks of it as a joke as Josie clearly does.

He would like it not to be but still think he knows she is just larking about.

Might be cos I like her tho so may be a little bitty biased there.

On a side note the sun or star were claiming yesterday that Brian D might be one of the ones going into the allstars after all:dance:

[Niamh.]

I really cant make up my mind if he thinks of it as a joke as Josie clearly does.

He would like it not to be but still think he knows she is just larking about.

Might be cos I like her tho so may be a little bitty biased there.

On a side note the sun or star were claiming yesterday that Brian D might be one of the ones going into the allstars after all:dance:

OMG I hope so!!!! I loveeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeee Brian:dance:

[chuff me dizzy]

OMG I hope so!!!! I loveeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeee Brian:dance:

Me too !! :dance::dance::dance::dance::dance::dance:

[chuff me dizzy]

Oh yes !! JJ ofering Rachel to sleep with Josie !! hes on the move good lad ,you know it makes sense

[chuff me dizzy]

I rest my case,my case is rested ,Did you all see Andrew on bblb ? :sad: