Cruel to Ben

[Cordelia]

It seems to me that every one picks on Ben. For no specific reason. I feel sorry for him.. Any body else think that..

[Locke.]

It's ok, he can rub it in their faces when he wins.

[Josy]

Ben is cruel about everyone behind thier backs anyway, so it evens out..........

[rusticgal]

Thats cos Ben doesnt care about anyone except himself....:xyxwave:

[fingers]

The most vain and selfish HM ever, even more selfish than Mohammed.

[Cordelia]

It's ok, he can rub it in their faces when he wins.

I completely agree, he always looks so sad. Make me wanna cry:sad:

[-Sue-]

The most vain and selfish HM ever, even more selfish than Mohammed.

oooh the plate smasher... I HATE HIM I HATE HIM (his words):joker:

[Kazanne]

Yes,he's definately is their target as they know he is none confrontational and will always apologize even when he doesn't have to,he is such a lovely bloke,he's not perfect but he is so much better then the rest of the dross in there.I feel a lot of people even on the forum, like someone to have a pop at and Bens their boy.He is different and people dont like that.and more to the point he is honest which people really seem to think is a vice!!!

[Zippy]

I love Ben as a HM. My 3rd fave. But he does bring a lot on himself at times with his selfish behaviour. And he's a shameless bitchy gossip!

And he does seem to escape noms a lot considering so....they cant hate him that much.

[fivecougz]

"For no specific reason" LOL

[fingers]

I love Ben as a HM. My 3rd fave. But he does bring a lot on himself at times with his selfish behaviour. And he's a shameless bitchy gossip!

And he does seem to escape noms a lot considering so....they cant hate him that much.

Yeah, they all "love him to bits" lol:joker:

[Claymores]

Ben is cruel about everyone behind thier backs anyway, so it evens out..........

I could think of many reasons to be cruel to the self-obsessed knob

[Zippy]

Yeah, they all "love him to bits" lol:joker:

I think they actually do. He's a loveable prat really.

[-Sue-]

Ask yourself this .. if you were sad would Ben take time to feel sorry for you? (NO.. not unless you were rich)

I wouldnt feel sorry for him if my life depended on it.. he deserves a lot of what he gets in that house (after all he doesnt think before he speaks on many an occasion). He does nothing good for anyone in the house on a daily basis.. he is not entertaining to watch.. its just a daily grind/bore of who will Ben spend 6+ hours b*tching about today...

If you like the idea of having a best friend who will sweet talk you into doing everything for him then as soon as your back is turned will stab you in the back.. then people are welcome to him

but feel sorry for him...?? no chance

[Visage]

Yes,he's definately is their target as they know he is none confrontational

That's so true, he does all his bitching behind the other housemates backs.







I feel a lot of people even on the forum, like someone to have a pop at and Bens their boy.


That would be John James, not Ben:xyxwave:

[Kazanne]

It seems to me that every one picks on Ben. For no specific reason. I feel sorry for him.. Any body else think that..

Some people love cruelty,look at the assholes who pay to watch bullfighting,look at all the bloodsports,Cruelty gives some people a kind of kick and they love to see someone or something hurt or be uncomfortable,you see it even on these forums,people 'hating' people they have never met.I think Ben is too good for the BB house,as they are not really used to people who have manners,respect and breeding.As soon as Ben gets out he will be fine ,I do think a certain few have spoiled his BB experiance simply by being so ignorant and closeminded to how he feels.

[Cordelia]

Ask yourself this .. if you were sad would Ben take time to feel sorry for you? (NO.. not unless you were rich)

I wouldnt feel sorry for him if my life depended on it.. he deserves a lot of what he gets in that house (after all he doesnt think before he speaks on many an occasion). He does nothing good for anyone in the house on a daily basis.. he is not entertaining to watch.. its just a daily grind/bore of who will Ben spend 6+ hours b*tching about today...

If you like the idea of having a best friend who will sweet talk you into doing everything for him then as soon as your back is turned will stab you in the back.. then people are welcome to him

but feel sorry for him...?? no chance

Its not the fact i agree with every single thing he does but he dosent deserves the abuse he gets. Just because he's posh people dislike him. he's a nice enough guy. Every bitches from time to time its a part of life.

[Claymores]

Ask yourself this .. if you were sad would Ben take time to feel sorry for you? (NO.. not unless you were rich)

I wouldnt feel sorry for him if my life depended on it.. he deserves a lot of what he gets in that house (after all he doesnt think before he speaks on many an occasion). He does nothing good for anyone in the house on a daily basis.. he is not entertaining to watch.. its just a daily grind/bore of who will Ben spend 6+ hours b*tching about today...

If you like the idea of having a best friend who will sweet talk you into doing everything for him then as soon as your back is turned will stab you in the back.. then people are welcome to him

but feel sorry for him...?? no chance

Good analysis Sue

[Kazanne]

That's so true, he does all his bitching behind the other housemates backs.





That would be John James, not Ben:xyxwave:

If you insist on calling it bitching,they ALL do it behind each others backs,but you know that don't you?

[Cordelia]

Some people love cruelty,look at the assholes who pay to watch bullfighting,look at all the bloodsports,Cruelty gives some people a kind of kick and they love to see someone or something hurt or be uncomfortable,you see it even on these forums,people 'hating' people they have never met.I think Ben is too good for the BB house,as they are not really used to people who have manners,respect and breeding.As soon as Ben gets out he will be fine ,I do think a certain few have spoiled his BB experiance simply by being so ignorant and closeminded to how he feels.

Well said!

[Fish]

I think Ben gets irritated by people easily and the other house mates know this so antagonise him so he gets that way around the house mates. Kinda portraying him to be this person who argues a lot when they are making him out to be like that.

[Claymores]

Its not the fact i agree with every single thing he does but he dosent deserves the abuse he gets. Just because he's posh people dislike him. he's a nice enough guy. Every bitches from time to time its a part of life.

Watch LF - he whinges every waking hour - I suspect that's why he's so tired at nights

[Visage]

If you insist on calling it bitching,they ALL do it behind each others backs,but you know that don't you?

You'll get no argument from me on that one.

You see, we can agree sometimes;)

[-Sue-]

Its not the fact i agree with every single thing he does but he dosent deserves the abuse he gets. Just because he's posh people dislike him. he's a nice enough guy. Every bitches from time to time its a part of life.

Its not just because he is posh its so much more than that the way he is with people manipulates (sweet talks) then back stabs.. his views his ideas.. so much about him I find replusive..I wouldnt consider him 'nice' I would consider him 'sly' and not someone I would trust but thats just me

JJ doesnt deserve it either (not that Im a major JJ1 fan) but he gets it in the neck and so does Josie..

[Vicky.]

Some people love cruelty,look at the assholes who pay to watch bullfighting,look at all the bloodsports,Cruelty gives some people a kind of kick and they love to see someone or something hurt or be uncomfortable,you see it even on these forums,people 'hating' people they have never met.I think Ben is too good for the BB house,as they are not really used to people who have manners,respect and breeding.As soon as Ben gets out he will be fine ,I do think a certain few have spoiled his BB experiance simply by being so ignorant and closeminded to how he feels.

Love the comparison between watching BB and bloodsprts :laugh:


Anyway, love ben, hes my second fave at the moment. But he brings a lot of it on himself to be honest.

[serensilver]

ben is a bitch to everyone he even mimics their accents! if they saw what he was like they would all change their opinion of him! he's the biggest bitch in there so its not "cruel to ben" at all!

[fingers]

It says a lot about the mentality of the sycophants of the forum that if you don't post gushing praise about their "heroes" you get labelled a "hater". School playground mentality at its worst!

[Kazanne]

ben is a bitch to everyone he even mimics their accents! if they saw what he was like they would all change their opinion of him! he's the biggest bitch in there so its not "cruel to ben" at all!

How is he a bitch to everyone? he does mimic it's funny,even the housemates have laughed at it,people make a living out of it,I dont think that's nasty at all,and I'm sorry some of them ARE cruel,funnily enough Dave is one of the worst,still getting my head round that one.

[serensilver]

How is he a bitch to everyone? he does mimic it's funny,even the housemates have laughed at it,people make a living out of it,I dont think that's nasty at all,and I'm sorry some of them ARE cruel,funnily enough Dave is one of the worst,still getting my head round that one.

:wavey: He bitches about, John james and JJ, mario, even dave! and he was just bitching about rachel doing her accent and everything its nasty and he never does it to anyones face! he did it with like shabby,caiomhe,ife too :nono:

[luminoussun]

I feel sorry for him too...hes been picked on the whole time just because hes not a team player and don't put himself forwards...but he has a bad habit of bitching to peeeeeople

[arista]

The most vain and selfish HM ever, even more selfish than Mohammed.




Are You Sure?

[Omah]

I feel sorry for him too...hes been picked on the whole time just because hes not a team player and don't put himself forwards...

Yeah, he's done it again :

http://www.digitalspy.co.uk/bigbrother/news/a250157/ben-defends-himself-to-david-john-james.html

Andrew asked for five volunteers, and said that five new housemates would enter from "a second house".

Corin, JJ, Josie, John James and David volunteered, while the other housemates, including Ben and Mario, stayed on the ground. John James and David both challenged Ben after the event, asking why he had not volunteered to leave so that new housemate JJ could stay.

John James and David continued to deride Ben for his actions throughout the afternoon, with the Australian saying: "[JJ'd] proven himself in two seconds, that's more than Benny's done in 47 days." The housemates laughed, with David adding: "He'll grow some stones one day. Rachel's seen through him." Rachel then joined in in ridiculing Ben, saying: "Yeah, the accent threw me. I was sucked in by the quiff."

David's fulfilled his own prediction that the HMs would turn on each other - sly, nasty man ..... :yuk:

[Kazanne]

Yeah, he's done it again :

http://www.digitalspy.co.uk/bigbrother/news/a250157/ben-defends-himself-to-david-john-james.html



David's fulfilled his own prediction that the HMs would turn on each other - sly, nasty man ..... :yuk:

I hadn't seen that but it's not nice to read never mind be living amongst it,poor Ben,it must be soul destroying for him,Did anyone say anthing to Mario?and it annoys me that racheal feels she has a right to comment,i know her nose has been put out,that Ben has been chatting to Laura,but they really need to stop the constant put downs.

[rusticgal]

I think Ben gets irritated by people easily and the other house mates know this so antagonise him so he gets that way around the house mates. Kinda portraying him to be this person who argues a lot when they are making him out to be like that.

Ben also knows how JJ can get wound up and has tried to get him into an arguement on several occassions.... JJ has not taken the bait.Also Ben will maliciously speak of others to try to manipulate votes.

[Kazanne]

Ben also knows how JJ can get wound up and has tried to get him into an arguement on several occassions.... JJ has not taken the bait.Also Ben will maliciously speak of others to try to manipulate votes.

There is no way Ben has got JJ into arguments,JJ is quite capable of doing that himself.

[Zippy]

Yeah, he's done it again :

http://www.digitalspy.co.uk/bigbrother/news/a250157/ben-defends-himself-to-david-john-james.html



David's fulfilled his own prediction that the HMs would turn on each other - sly, nasty man ..... :yuk:

I don't believe for a second that those five thought they were being selfless. More likely they sensed more airtime by volunteering. Certainly JJ2 would know that 5 new HMs were not coming in.

[serensilver]

I don't believe for a second that those five thought they were being selfless. More likely they sensed more airtime by volunteering. Certainly JJ2 would know that 5 new HMs were not coming in.

so your saying your fav corin wanted more air time? i dont think any of them did tbh :wavey:

[Kazanne]

I want to know if they had a go at mario over it too?

[serensilver]

I want to know if they had a go at mario over it too?

Ye they did! but the reason they are having more of a go at ben is because he has been saying he wants to leave for a few weeks and the fact that he didnt stand up prooves he's lying, mario didnt stand up because he has waited years to get on the show and wants to stay! :wavey:

[Zippy]

so your saying your fav corin wanted more air time? i dont think any of them did tbh :wavey:

Anybody who's seen past BBs would get an inckling that volunteering for something like that would work in your favour ultimately. Not rocket science.

Or maybe they felt they would be switched and put in the other house. An adventure. Either way I certainly don't think they thought they'd be evicted.

[Kazanne]

Ye they did! but the reason they are having more of a go at ben is because he has been saying he wants to leave for a few weeks and the fact that he didnt stand up prooves he's lying, mario didnt stand up because he has waited years to get on the show and wants to stay! :wavey:

It doesn't prove anything though does it,Ben said he didn't quite realize what was going on,he is not exactly the jump up and go type is he?,and as someone else pointed out those that stood were not being selfless,as JJ would know no new housemates were being put in.they did it for airtime

[Visage]

There is no way Ben has got JJ into arguments,JJ is quite capable of doing that himself.

I agree John James is capable of that all on his own, but Ben isn't all sweet and innocent. He can be guilty in certain situations too, you do agree with me on that don't you? ;)

[Kazanne]

I agree John James is capable of that all on his own, but Ben isn't all sweet and innocent. He can be guilty in certain situations too, you do agree with me on that don't you? ;)

Of course I do,Ben can be annoying at times but I do not think it warrants the ridicule especially from his mate Dave

[joeysteele]

Ben is the most decent on there and he does TALK about the others but only on his own knowledge of what he's seen and heard,so all he says is facts.
What he doesn't do is butch and gossip with invention,like some of the others who say things that others haven't actually said,and also who say that some others have done this and that which they haven't.
Ben gets their backs up because he is non conformist but can anyone HONESTLY on here give an example where though he has talked about someone and has said things hee's seen and heard from THEM, from that can anyone on here faoirly and honestly give examples of anything he's said that actually was NOT true.
I believe the house thinks he is popular because of the crowd stand up comedy routine,they also know he survived a 4 person eviction fight when Govan went out and thats the only reason he doesn't get nomiated that mnuch.
Mario still has a thing for him so will stick with him, Dave is not a friend really, I believe Dave is waiting to stab him in the back and RACHEL is a nasty madam, he should not trust her one bit,I find her 100% false, she nominated him this week and I bet she does next week too, I just hope she gets nominated and he doesn't and I also hope even if there are 2 evictions this week they now scrap the save and replace task .

[Angus]

I hadn't seen that but it's not nice to read never mind be living amongst it,poor Ben,it must be soul destroying for him,Did anyone say anthing to Mario?and it annoys me that racheal feels she has a right to comment,i know her nose has been put out,that Ben has been chatting to Laura,but they really need to stop the constant put downs.

Rachel doesn't give a stuff about Ben and Laura - she's upset because she was trying to engineer a fauxmance with one of the faves, let's face it there's only JJ and Ben who are remotely believable as love interests, and she's too up Josie's a*se to risk it.

What Rachel really can't stomach is that Laura doesn't like HER, she said she finds her irritating, and who the ***** is she to say who Ben can and can't talk to. Rachel's scatty scouser act has been stripped away and she is exposed for the desperado she really is. I hope she's up this week against BEN and then she can disappear back into oblivion.

[Beastie]

Rachel nominated Ben for the boot last week...

Just a reminder :)

[Claymores]

Rachel nominated Ben for the boot last week...

Just a reminder :)

And will rightly do so again after his finer pointing

[Omah]

http://www.digitalspy.co.uk/bigbrother/liveupdates/

17:41

Ben tells Dave he finds it strange that he's "suddenly been transformed into a villain", following not standing up earlier, and his falling out with Rachel, turning him into "Mr Sleaze".

For some reason, Dave's suddenly turned nasty, but Rachel was always going to turn out to be a nasty piece of work .....

[Patricia4]

I like Ben and I felt sorry for him today in the space of 1 hour John James had a go at him then Dave then Rachel.I sometimes wish he would hit back and really give them it but he's a gent.

[Kazanne]

I like Ben and I felt sorry for him today in the space of 1 hour John James had a go at him then Dave then Rachel.I sometimes wish he would hit back and really give them it but he's a gent.

Wouldn't it be great if he drop kicked them,lol:joker::joker:

[Angus]

Rachel nominated Ben for the boot last week...

Just a reminder :)

Unless Ben is up against Corin, JJ, or Josie, I can't see him being evicted over ANY of the others. These four are the only ones with anything like a significant fan base.

[Lex]

It seems to me that every one picks on Ben. For no specific reason. I feel sorry for him.. Any body else think that..

He's just not nasty enough to be in the house with this shower of ****e!!:nono:

[chloedancer]

Is there danger of Ben walking?Hope not but the whole house at you all day would kinda get you down.I want him to realize Dave is not a friend and has been instigating the bitching at him since very early on.Seems to happen when he wants approval from jj and steve.

[muchadoaboutnothing]

I have also thought that there are a lot of 'picking on Ben' moments and cruely so. I think Ben, at times and very unwittingly, brings some of it on himself. Sometimes I think he is on another planet and is certainly not street wise. But I absolutely hate Dave as I blame him for this stirring up HMs against Ben. Ben really is a nice guy (Tim, nice but Dim) and rather innocent. Although I do wish that he would stop mauling and kissing some of his fellow HMs. He seems to me to be very insecure, hence he keeps refering to others as "you are my friend, you know that, but!" As much as I like him he does seem to slob over some of them.

[boomoo]

I love Ben as a HM. My 3rd fave. But he does bring a lot on himself at times with his selfish behaviour. And he's a shameless bitchy gossip!

And he does seem to escape noms a lot considering so....they cant hate him that much.

He wont escape this week.

[boomoo]

I have also thought that there are a lot of 'picking on Ben' moments and cruely so. I think Ben, at times and very unwittingly, brings some of it on himself. Sometimes I think he is on another planet and is certainly not street wise. But I absolutely hate Dave as I blame him for this stirring up HMs against Ben. Ben really is a nice guy (Tim, nice but Dim) and rather innocent. Although I do wish that he would stop mauling and kissing some of his fellow HMs. He seems to me to be very insecure, hence he keeps refering to others as "you are my friend, you know that, but!" As much as I like him he does seem to slob over some of them.

You summed him up well.
Last night Jo and Laura were discussing him and they both said they were surprised by him.
Jo said he seems like a little boy lost.

[JHB]

He is a selfish *****....

[muchadoaboutnothing]

You summed him up well.
Last night Jo and Laura were discussing him and they both said they were surprised by him.
Jo said he seems like a little boy lost.

I think 'little boy lost' is a brill summary. And it is because of this that I feel Dave, JJ and, at times, aided by Mario pick on him. Somehow to me this appears to be a form of bullying. By teasing Bens innocence, knowing that is his weakness, is a tad immature of them and could be seen as a form of bullying.

[Kazanne]

I think 'little boy lost' is a brill summary. And it is because of this that I feel Dave, JJ and, at times, aided by Mario pick on him. Somehow to me this appears to be a form of bullying. By teasing Bens innocence, knowing that is his weakness, is a tad immature of them and could be seen as a form of bullying.

It definately has undertones of bullying,hate the way they smirk when they do it.

[astrozombiee]

Oh yes, poor little rich boy getting picked on by all the HMs! I hate the way he does that, he's so catty, but because he's posh and has a bouffant and is in it four himself, he seemed to be a great housemate.
I would say he picked on other's more. I mean I agree with his comments about Josies clothes not being flattering, but if he said it to John James (who is initally a backstabber) he would have known it would have got back to Josie, who is sensitive about her weight. and that whole thing with Mario and "I want to be big in America and a TV personality so I can't be associated with a gay man" thing was pathetic.
Anyway he's gone and selling stories to the press.