hating john james

[walter]

Why do people hate him so much? I don't understand. is it becuase of his looks why hes either loved or hated?

[karezza]

He is an asexual oddball with a mother complex who is manipulating the housemates & the public. I hate devious housemates.

Anyone but Crab Eyes to win.

[MojoNixon]

He is male bimbo. And sociopath.

[walter]

hows he manipulating.

[MojoNixon]

hows he manipulating.

:joker:

[Stacey.]

The people that dislike him for whatever reason, seem to think that if we like him then we must obviously fancy him. :rolleyes: Whether we think he's hot or not that's sorta besides the point.

I like him because of his character.. he gives his honest opinions and really doesn't give a ****. He's funny, makes me laugh more than anyone in there atm.

[karezza]

Mindless teenage girls can't see below the surface - even Josie said he is an oddball & a weirdo.

[30stone]

The people that dislike him for whatever reason, seem to think that if we like him then we must obviously fancy him. :rolleyes: Whether we think he's hot or not that's sorta besides the point.

I like him because of his character.. he gives his honest opinions and really doesn't give a ****. He's funny, makes me laugh more than anyone in there atm.

I agree stacey.


And anyone who says people only like him for his looks (which is stupid), then i say you only dislike him because your ugly and jealous lol! (which is also stupid)

[30stone]

Mindless teenage girls can't see below the surface - even Josie said he is an oddball & a weirdo.

That can be a reason people like him though, people like different, i mean look at the support for ben.. hes a weirdo.. but loads like him.

[charmingmissc]

I agree stacey.


And anyone who says people only like him for his looks (which is stupid), then i say you only dislike him because your ugly and jealous lol! (which is also stupid)

well said both of you.

i like his personality not his looks (far too weedy ) imo.

[walter]

i like him and find him so much more interesting to watch than the others. people have real issues with good looking people.

[walter]

i find him and jj's banter quite funny.

[MojoNixon]

I don't his personality AND his looks. He is not honest (unlike someone claims). He is bend as Uri Gellers spoon.

[walter]

i assume going by your footer you loved rachael? So i can understand why you may not like him as he hated her. which i would have as well tbf

[walter]

and whys he not honest?

[MojoNixon]

i assume going by your footer you loved rachael? So i can understand why you may not like him as he hated her. which i would have as well tbf
I love the way she looks, but she never was my favorite housemate. That's the difference. Get it?

[MojoNixon]

and whys he not honest?

If you can't see that, not gonna even try to explain it to you.

[walter]

i dont

[walter]

so you only liked her because of her looks.

[Saph]

He's just not a nice man imo. Also the overratedness from some people on here makes me hate him more.

[walter]

ye but how is he not nice. ye he may have a bitch but who doesnt

[walter]

i'm the opposite. the more hated he is the more i like him lol.

[MojoNixon]

i'm the opposite. the more hated he is the more i like him lol.

I bet you are shabby fan too. Rebel without applause.

[Kazanne]

ye but how is he not nice. ye he may have a bitch but who doesnt

he thinks the public are stupid,some are but not all of us are fooled,he annoys me the way he picks on weaker people but never stands up to the men a cowardly snake imo.

[MojoNixon]

he thinks the public are stupid,some are but not all of us are fooled,he annoys me the way he picks on weaker people but never stands up to the men a cowardly snake imo.

Exactly. Well said.

[walter]

hated shabby. cause he didnt like rachael he only picks on women.

[walter]

need examples

[MojoNixon]

need examples

Pass the joint?

[charmingmissc]

he thinks the public are stupid,some are but not all of us are fooled,he annoys me the way he picks on weaker people but never stands up to the men a cowardly snake imo.

so ben is not a man then?

[walter]

Pass the joint?

what lol

[jojo10]

i like him and find him so much more inteesting to watch than the others. people have real issues with good looking people.

Yeah well what goes around comes around, he did the same to Rachael at the beginning of series, where he treated her really nasty due to her looks, and made out to everybody that she was shallow coz of her looks, which she wasn't, and then no wonder Dave put her up for eviction, as at the time John James was his best friend.

Also, it's not coz he is good looking people hate him, it's coz of his aggressive personality and the way he has bitched in the past about other hms or try to influence people's nomination by telling hms how people have gameplans, for eg, Corin and Ben, even Josie got fed up with this and she told him that he liked stirring, and that he was a trouble maker and bitches too much. Funny how he calmed it down after he was put up for eviction, gameplayer.

If anything I also think John James gets away with his bitching and everything else coz of his looks on this forum, yet Ben gets picked on all the time if he says anything behind any1s backs, usually after they have picked on him, and to be fair they have all slagged each other off 1 time or another.

Finally, this is a very stupid thread considering John James has so much support out there, why else would he be favourite to win, and you only need to look at the polls on this forum to see how popular he is. This thread was probably started off by somebody who is just trying to round up more support for John James as usual, trust me he has enough of it as it is.

[Kazanne]

so ben is not a man then?

Ben is very passive,he is not confrontational like most men,but you knew that,so glad people are admitting he picks on people though.

[rusticgal]

Walter...there isnt that much hate for him... just a handful of forum members are obsessed with him and its the same few creating and bumping their own threads... just ignore them because they get very spiteful and nasty. :xyxwave:

[Kazanne]

Walter...there isnt that much hate for him... just a handful of forum members are obsessed with him and its the same few creating and bumping their own threads... just ignore them because they get very spiteful and nasty. :xyxwave:

So are you trying to say no one who dislikes him should post?I see you on most of the Ben threads doing exactly the same,so lets get some perpective here,you can ignore the facts as much as you like Crabeyes is a nasty piece of work and we are entitalled to say so,just becuaes people dont share your love doesn't make them spiteful and nasty.

[Princessblue]

Hi all, new here. I don't mind JJ as much as I mind Josie, but have to say, the pair of them seem like insecure puppies clinging on to one another and it really has ruined the entire season for me at least. I just wish the pair of them would get up out of bed and move around.

[walter]

i know he has loads of support i just keep reading threads about how much people hate him. Really annoys me cause he aint that bad.

I would have been the same with rachael as john james was. I hate girls like her as well and i'm sure there are loads of people who have the same feeling. Girls who think they are **** hot need bringing down a peg or two.

[MeMyselfAndI]

i know
i hate the people who say we fancy him
J J2 has a hilarious personality too and is already one of my favourites but that will also be because i fancy him :rolleyes:....
not

[walter]

how does it work if hes my favourite. and i'm a guy and aint gay? cant use the fancy excuse

[charmingmissc]

Ben is very passive,he is not confrontational like most men,but you knew that,so glad people are admitting he picks on people though.

jj does not pick on people.

be honest.

ben is not confrontational true, he sat in the nest most of yesterday snipping at people. (behind their backs)

i am suprised at laura being his type.



if only he would talk to them face to face without the, i am your friend or i do love you , he would feel alot better because he could get all the doubts he has out in the open.

[30stone]

Lol Ben is terrible people say jj bitches but jeez ben is the queen..
He is a weird chap.

Think thats why i like jj..

You have

Ben - Posh, weird, unconfident, bitchy and annoying how he puts less effort than everyone in.

Andrew - Geeky nerdy, trying hard, nice but not someone id really get on with.

Dave - Nice bloke if he didnt talk about his religion then he would be one of my favourites because he is a genuine just nice bloke.

Mario - Thinks hes the dogs, when he looks like a mouse, and is generally just an annoying person.

Steve - Quite a bit older and dont have much in common with him.

Govan - Fairy, just could never like him, bitchy as hell too.

Nathan - Genuine normal bloke, proper lad.


So thats Dave whos alright and nathan who i could get on with, there is no other blokes in the house i could relate to.

Thats why i like JJ and JJ because they are just normal blokes that i could see myself getting on with.

[charmingmissc]

of them all i now have to admit i would get on with dave the best (despite his religious views).

[30stone]

Id get on with the new jj i think.

But this is the point bb is about normal people or it started that way..

and i only find nathan, JJ and JJ and dave people who id ever get on with.

[walter]

ye, I really like Dave now. He's quite funny. Even though he talks about religion he does seem to take the piss about it and isn't all serious which i like.

[walter]

Id get on with the new jj i think.

But this is the point bb is about normal people or it started that way..

and i only find nathan, JJ and JJ and dave people who id ever get on with.

same people i would get on with as well.

[Kazanne]

i know he has loads of support i just keep reading threads about how much people hate him. Really annoys me cause he aint that bad.

I would have been the same with rachael as john james was. I hate girls like her as well and i'm sure there are loads of people who have the same feeling. Girls who think they are **** hot need bringing down a peg or two.

Why are you asking people for their opinion when you have it steadfastly in your head that he "aint that bad" prepare to be annoyed because some of us DON'T like him and with very good reason,I don't hate him but i wouldn't pee on him if he was on fire! vile boy

[Braden]

He's actully growing on me. He'll probably do my headin again if he has an argument with anyone.

[Mr XcX]

Better than Josie. Josie is a HM8 I have such HATE for..

[walter]

Why are you asking people for their opinion when you have it steadfastly in your head that he "aint that bad" prepare to be annoyed because some of us DON'T like him and with very good reason,I don't hate him but i wouldn't pee on him if he was on fire! vile boy

not really wanting their opinion but their reasons. That last bit seems a bit of hate. he really isnt that bad

[Mystic Mock]

i know
i hate the people who say we fancy him
J J2 has a hilarious personality too and is already one of my favourites but that will also be because i fancy him :rolleyes:....
not

but that just proves you only like jj 2 because you fancy him because his a plonker.

[Mystic Mock]

Lol Ben is terrible people say jj bitches but jeez ben is the queen..
He is a weird chap.

Think thats why i like jj..

You have

Ben - Posh, weird, unconfident, bitchy and annoying how he puts less effort than everyone in.

Andrew - Geeky nerdy, trying hard, nice but not someone id really get on with.

Dave - Nice bloke if he didnt talk about his religion then he would be one of my favourites because he is a genuine just nice bloke.

Mario - Thinks hes the dogs, when he looks like a mouse, and is generally just an annoying person.

Steve - Quite a bit older and dont have much in common with him.

Govan - Fairy, just could never like him, bitchy as hell too.

Nathan - Genuine normal bloke, proper lad.


So thats Dave whos alright and nathan who i could get on with, there is no other blokes in the house i could relate to.

Thats why i like JJ and JJ because they are just normal blokes that i could see myself getting on with.

but your not meant to be living with them your meant to be watching them.

[Julie10]

Mindless teenage girls can't see below the surface - even Josie said he is an oddball & a weirdo.


So why is she still clinging to him like a limpit?

[Kazanne]

not really wanting their opinion but their reasons. That last bit seems a bit of hate. he really isnt that bad

Ok heres my reasons:

He picks on meeker people
He is always banging on about how "wonderful" he is (in a round about way of course)
He thinks he knows everything
He is false
He is using Josie
He is a liar
His picking on Ben is beyond a joke
He is a hypocrite
He is sly
He bitches as much as anyone
He is a coward.........................
I'm sure i can find more

[walter]

i dont agree with some of them but fair enough.

[Julie10]

i know he has loads of support i just keep reading threads about how much people hate him. Really annoys me cause he aint that bad.

I would have been the same with rachael as john james was. I hate girls like her as well and i'm sure there are loads of people who have the same feeling. Girls who think they are **** hot need bringing down a peg or two.


Its up to them to think they are hot what business is it of yours or anybody for that matter? And usually they don't think they are hot its jealous people that label them as being this and that to make themselves feel better.

When you bring them down a peg or two its usually down to spite and jealousy.:nono:

[ibook4113]

sociopath? haha. I don't think so. I think he is very genuine, i think he can go overboard with some things but i think he is a really nice guy.

And for the people who say mother complex? WHat? do you think he has any awareness of this? I don't think so. We wouldn't normally hold any mental issue people have against them, but apparently it is okay to hold it against john james, that is quite rude.

Ok heres my reasons:

He picks on meeker people
He is always banging on about how "wonderful" he is (in a round about way of course)
He thinks he knows everything
He is false
He is using Josie
He is a liar
His picking on Ben is beyond a joke
He is a hypocrite
He is sly
He bitches as much as anyone
He is a coward.........................
I'm sure i can find more

"He is always banging on about how "wonderful" he is (in a round about way of course)" what does this even mean????

Ben is an arsehole who does all the things you have mentioned here (minus the Josie stuff) so surely you should dislike ben as much as john james.

[Mystic Mock]

sociopath? haha. I don't think so. I think he is very genuine, i think he can go overboard with some things but i think he is a really nice guy.

And for the people who say mother complex? WHat? do you think he has any awareness of this? I don't think so. We wouldn't normally hold any mental issue people have against them, but apparently it is okay to hold it against john james, that is quite rude.



"He is always banging on about how "wonderful" he is (in a round about way of course)" what does this even mean????

Ben is an arsehole who does all the things you have mentioned here (minus the Josie stuff) so surely you should dislike ben as much as john james.
hows ben a hypocrite? and who does ben pick on?

[Kazanne]

sociopath? haha. I don't think so. I think he is very genuine, i think he can go overboard with some things but i think he is a really nice guy.

And for the people who say mother complex? WHat? do you think he has any awareness of this? I don't think so. We wouldn't normally hold any mental issue people have against them, but apparently it is okay to hold it against john james, that is quite rude.



"He is always banging on about how "wonderful" he is (in a round about way of course)" what does this even mean????

Ben is an arsehole who does all the things you have mentioned here (minus the Josie stuff) so surely you should dislike ben as much as john james.


Have you not heard his moral high ground speeches.lol,he talks as though he is is the patron saint of fairness and morals,this thread is about JJ nothing to do with Ben,we were asked reasons those are SOME of mine,i forgot to add he was aggresive though.

[ibook4113]

hows ben a hypocrite? and who does ben pick on?

Ben tends to make jibes at most people, he doesn't directly pick on people, but his constant jibes at others come close to picking on people.

He is a hypocrite. He always says how he likes people even for their bad qualities. But it is a lie. He complains about people but wraps it in a compliment, and he has done it with everyone.
He will says 'I love 'so-and-so' but i find 'this' really annoying about them, but i like them for it anyway'. Which is a lie if he is annoyed he should say it, not wrap it up in a hypocritical phrase.

[Mystic Mock]

Ben tends to make jibes at most people, he doesn't directly pick on people, but his constant jibes at others come close to picking on people.

He is a hypocrite. He always says how he likes people even for their bad qualities. But it is a lie. He complains about people but wraps it in a compliment, and he has done it with everyone.
He will says 'I love 'so-and-so' but i find 'this' really annoying about them, but i like them for it anyway'. Which is a lie if he is annoyed he should say it, not wrap it up in a hypocritical phrase.

he aint close to picking on anybody and his lying when he says he loves them that dosent mean his a hypocrite.

[ibook4113]

Have you not heard his moral high ground speeches.lol,he talks as though he is is the patron saint of fairness and morals,this thread is about JJ nothing to do with Ben,we were asked reasons those are SOME of mine,i forgot to add he was aggresive though.

Yeh, he mentioned that one or twice.
I am trying to bring in consistency to the argument. The start of this thread was about why people hate john james, i am making a point that while some hate him they have singled him out for reasons that actually apply to most people in the house, particularly Ben.

Ben is getting more aggressive in my opinion, in the way he speaks. He has started to swear more and more about people too. John James hasn't *ever*
been physically aggressive.


he aint close to picking on anybody and his lying when he says he loves them that dosent mean his a hypocrite.

yes it does. He says one thing 'he likes them', then he contradicts it 'i hate them for this', then finished it again with a contradiction that he 'love them anyway'. Being there is a contradiction, that would make his statement hypocritical, because they imply one thing, and do another - they imply a compliment, but insult someone.

[Kazanne]

Well he knows not to be 'physically' aggresive doesn't he?no way does he want to be removed from that house,lol ,it's his life at the moment,and as for Ben lying that's not so,I have friends who I love but they still annoy me i often say to them "I love you to bits,but" most of us do it and when Ben does talk about anyone it is usually just when he has been derided by them,that is human we do that too,so NO Ben is nowt like crabeyes.I see no signs of ben getting more aggressive,as he never has been,I am just annoyed that Ben hasn't drop kicked the obnoxious one.

[walter]

Its up to them to think they are hot what business is it of yours or anybody for that matter? And usually they don't think they are hot its jealous people that label them as being this and that to make themselves feel better.

When you bring them down a peg or two its usually down to spite and jealousy.:nono:

they can think it its just the way she went about it. so how do people who hated rachael but like john james work then if they are both good looking. surely people should dislike both if its a jealous reason. and rachael wasnt good looking anyway

[walter]

ben is more innocent when he bitches. i think thats the reason why people think john james is horrible and ben isnt.

john james and ben are my favourites so doesn't bother me personally

[Kazanne]

ben is more innocent when he bitches. i think thats the reason why people think john james is horrible and ben isnt.

john james and ben are my favourites so doesn't bother me personally

Imo,Ben points out things that are true and usually when someone has a go at him,you cant blame him for that,JJ on the other hand is more sneaky and drops hints but i usually know who he is on about,he goes on and on at ben for things that happened weeks ago so imo,JJ sees Ben as a target and i dont like that,he LOVES pulling Ben apart,you can see it.

[walter]

i know what you mean but to me john james is pissing about and ben doesnt really give a ****. sometimes it gets to him and john james does apologise when hes gone to far.

[watchinittoomuch]

Oh plz say its true?

Ive just cum.


*passes tissue*

[flamingGalah!]

Please don't let him back in!! :D

[oddballmisfitsFTW]

why has he walked?

did Josie eat his last bag of crisps?

[Kazanne]

He'll be back stop fretting ya all,this means too much to him

[walter]

whats happened ?

[BBfan46]

He insults different people each week and waits for a chance to clash with them, he says he doesn't give a **** about the public but spends large amounts of time on LF 'justifying' his aggressive actions, he leads Josie on despite claiming over and over again that he doesn't like her and I don't care what John James' fans say rubbing someone's tits is flirting at the minimum and on top of it he's probably going to win because a lot of teenage girls think he's good looking, It's ridiculous and not the way the last BB Winner should be.