Uh Oh, JJ2 is trying to expose Josie!

[*mazedsalv**]

He is trying to make John James see the light that she is using him!! This is getting interesting, why do I have a feeling that JJ2 doesn't like Josie?
He knows her game for defenite and is the only one in there that does.

Hmm...

[Jack_]

Who is he or anyone else to say that she's using him?

[HBB1508]

Personally I think they have been using each other and now it's going to get out of hand.

[smudgie]

:conf: JJ2 is talking to Josie, they seem to be getting on okay.

[Brekkie]

Come on JJ2, go for it. I actually think John James is quite aware of what she's up too but just far too scared to confront her. He knows she's put him in a position where he actually needs her and doesn't have a clue how to get out of it.

[Brekkie]

Who is he or anyone else to say that she's using him?

Somebody who has seen the absolute obvious from the outside.

[Mac Hiavellian]

It was quite odd on the main show last night when JJ said something along the lines that if Josie's alright with John James then she's alright with him. Does this mean he didn't like her but feels he has to because John James does?

[Julesuk]

She doesnt look too upset on l/f - John James is a strange one, he is a very emotional person, Josie seems to take every opportunity to rub his nose in things like the stupidness with Andrew - to be honest I thought they had something special but now not sure if Josie has been playing a game

[oddballmisfitsFTW]

Who is he or anyone else to say that she's using him?

has John-Joe said to John James that Josie is using him?

awesome

+100 to John Joe if he said this, he is spot on :thumbs:

[hotleggs]

JJ2 is inlove with JJ1

they will be sleeping in the same bed soon oooooooooooooooooooooooo

[fizzy]

Personally I think they have been using each other and now it's going to get out of hand.

agreed. he wouldn't go for her and she wouldn't go for him given the choice...

[oddballmisfitsFTW]

JJ2 is inlove with JJ1

they will be sleeping in the same bed soon oooooooooooooooooooooooo

that would be funny twist :joker:

wonder what all the BB fans would make of that :shocked:

[hotleggs]

steve needs too hit jj1 and jj2 with his walking stick or run them down with his wheelchair

[fingers]

has John-Joe said to John James that Josie is using him?

awesome

+100 to John Joe if he said this, he is spot on :thumbs:

I can't say that I heard him say that, they are all massaging Crab-Eyes' ego.

[Brekkie]

agreed. he wouldn't go for her and she wouldn't go for him given the choice...

The difference though is he actually really likes her as a person. She's just after a trophy husband.

[Julie10]

Who is he or anyone else to say that she's using him?



He has probably seen the days when she two faced about him for days behind his back. It was nasty, nasty, nasty!! No two ways about it.

[WOMBAI]

Who is he or anyone else to say that she's using him?

She is either using him (she is a scheming mare after all) or she really is a jealous, insecure silly cow - not much to choose between in my book!

[Zippy]

He is trying to make John James see the light that she is using him!! This is getting interesting, why do I have a feeling that JJ2 doesn't like Josie?
He knows her game for defenite and is the only one in there that does.

Hmm...

He lnows her game? Biased much, salv?

Gayface knows nothing. Just a sneaky snake who probably fancies JJ1.

Its obvious whose misleading who. He has said he doesnt fancy her but spoons with her and all other kinds of intimate stuff. Just disgusting.

[Bigbrofan25]

JJ2 is inlove with JJ1

they will be sleeping in the same bed soon oooooooooooooooooooooooo

Thats what I thought:eek::eek:

[fingers]

Remember the Song "Oh yes, I'm the great Pretender"

Well just make that "Oh yes, I'm the great manipulator"

[fingers]

He wins AGAIN! snogging under the Duvet!

[fingers]

Which night was it he whispered "I love you, Jose"?

[fingers]

"If I was to leave, I'd be waiting for you on the outside" yeah rigt! JJ

[fingers]

That silly bitch deserves everything she gets, she falls for his lies every time!

[Brekkie]

Which night was it he whispered "I love you, Jose"?

Friday, rather jokingly. What they didn't show in the highlights was he'd spent the hour before flirting with Mario.

[hotleggs]

mario should of dragged him too the moles lair and made a man out of him haha

[boomoo]

agreed. he wouldn't go for her and she wouldn't go for him given the choice...


She finds him attactive in his football gear. And she has often said she finds him disagreeable when he argues. He has simply said he is not attracted to her physically. he finds her funny and that makes life bearable for anyone.

The new JJ knows that as long as the two stay together John James has a chance to win. He has seen the betting odds and must know Josie is not as popular as she was. Corin is now second favourite.

JJ can get into the final if he plays it right and a few photo shoots would make up for not winning the £100,000.

[Tom4784]

If anything it's probably the other way round, I'm not liking JJ2 in this instance he seems here to be a proper stirrer.

[Brekkie]

I think he wants to say something but knows he'll be the one who comes off looking like the bad guy if he does - and Josie will certainly make sure John James and JJ don't have any kind of friendship.

[*mazedsalv**]

He lnows her game? Biased much, salv?

Gayface knows nothing. Just a sneaky snake who probably fancies JJ1.

Its obvious whose misleading who. He has said he doesnt fancy her but spoons with her and all other kinds of intimate stuff. Just disgusting.

I'm not a Josie hater, she is actually in my Top 5 but come on... they ALL have games in there, and JJ2 knows Josie's.

[MeMyselfAndI]

uuurgh this has made me annoyed
JJ2 just wants JJ1 to himself
too bad JJ1 prefures Josie :laugh2:

[Beastie]

He is trying to make John James see the light that she is using him!! This is getting interesting, why do I have a feeling that JJ2 doesn't like Josie?
He knows her game for defenite and is the only one in there that does.

Hmm...

Using him?? John James and Josie are using each other!! GET THEM BOTH OUT.

I also don't trust JJ2.. too shifty and something not likeable! lol (my least favourite newbie)

[fizzy]

The difference though is he actually really likes her as a person. She's just after a trophy husband.

you're probably right! :o

[RosieRed xxx]

I think it is obvious that JJ2 doesn't like Josie, he has been trying to stitch her up from day one, I dont even think he likes JJ1 that much he just knows where the cameras are. I think he is the biggest game player there and is very manipulitive (is that spelt right) so we shall see won't we when his true colours come out.

[Brekkie]

He can see right through Josie just as most of now on the outside can. I'm certain of one thing though - if JJ2 hadn't been there today I think JJ1 would have gone through with it.

He's in a difficult position though - he's basically got to tell JJ1 it's all Josie's fault without saying a bad word about Josie.

[*mazedsalv**]

Using him?? John James and Josie are using each other!! GET THEM BOTH OUT.

I also don't trust JJ2.. too shifty and something not likeable! lol (my least favourite newbie)

Shifty is good!! :p
I hope he continues being shufty! :D

[WOMBAI]

uuurgh this has made me annoyed
JJ2 just wants JJ1 to himself
too bad JJ1 prefures Josie :laugh2:

Only whilst she has her uses no doubt - but I'm sure she feels exactly the same way - a pair of users!

[Lucy.]

JJ1 & JJ2 = Bromance.
Say bye bye to your 'mucker' Josie!

[camster]

What was the arguement about? and have they made up yet?

[Jamietwo]

I don't get the josie hate ... I wonder if some jj1 lovers are a bit jealouse or something, I'm quite old and experienced and spot things most of the time, but I've not seen an obvious gameplan from josie. Respect to all of them in there for just surviving the pressure, it must be a trip...

jj2 i'm not at all sure about...my gaydar was going off pretty strongly when he arrived and now it's not, not important i know, but theres something i don't like about him, he wears a mask that's very confident and capable not disimilar to keevas mask , but he is better at it. Keeva was obviously smug and narcissistic i think jj2s dark side is better hidden. Also his little pug face sort of annoys me...bahhh who am i to judge?!

[Brekkie]

John James basically opened up to Josie and basically wanted to cool it, suggesting moving beds and comparing it to the Shabby and Caiomhe situation, which Josie took offence at, sulks and made JJ1 feel like **** for making Josie feel like ****.

As usual with Josie she ends up calling JJ1 "stupid" and laughing at him when they try to resolve things, and then ignores him. JJ1 can't handle that so opted to leave. When he returned Josie again ends up calling him "stupid" and laughing as John James is pretty much in tears at he whole situation.


And then JJ1 has spent four hours or so in bed with Josie apologising for god knows what. Josie brushes off most comments but everytime JJ1 says something she can milk a bit further she gets another apology out of him and blames all her own faults on being on her period, as she did last weekend with Caiomhe.

[Lucy.]

If John James wants to 'cool' things maybe he should stop sending mixed signals and saying he loves her and 'snuggling' as Josie calls it.

[RosieRed xxx]

I don't get the josie hate ... I wonder if some jj1 lovers are a bit jealouse or something, I'm quite old and experienced and spot things most of the time, but I've not seen an obvious gameplan from josie. Respect to all of them in there for just surviving the pressure, it must be a trip...

jj2 i'm not at all sure about...my gaydar was going off pretty strongly when he arrived and now it's not, not important i know, but theres something i don't like about him, he wears a mask that's very confident and capable not disimilar to keevas mask , but he is better at it. Keeva was obviously smug and narcissistic i think jj2s dark side is better hidden. Also his little pug face sort of annoys me...bahhh who am i to judge?!

I agree :wavey:

[Jordan.]

Even is she was (which she isnt) Why is JJ trying to turn John against Josie for, twat.

[crit]

I don't get the josie hate ... I wonder if some jj1 lovers are a bit jealouse or something, I'm quite old and experienced and spot things most of the time, but I've not seen an obvious gameplan from josie. Respect to all of them in there for just surviving the pressure, it must be a trip...

jj2 i'm not at all sure about...my gaydar was going off pretty strongly when he arrived and now it's not, not important i know, but theres something i don't like about him, he wears a mask that's very confident and capable not disimilar to keevas mask , but he is better at it. Keeva was obviously smug and narcissistic i think jj2s dark side is better hidden. Also his little pug face sort of annoys me...bahhh who am i to judge?!


I dont like JJ2 on elittle bit, dont like watching him on live feed at all. I have no idea why I dislike him but its pretty strong. My instincts have rarely failed me in the past. If I met him RL Id avoid him. He strikes me as a creeparse.

[Lucy.]

Even is she was (which she isnt) Why is JJ trying to turn John against Josie for, twat.

Because JJ2 wants JJ1 all to himself.

[Brekkie]

If John James wants to 'cool' things maybe he should stop sending mixed signals and saying he loves her and 'snuggling' as Josie calls it.
More a case of cool it in the house, see what happens outside the house really - but I'm not sure he got the chance to finish that conversation. Indeed the bunny boiler probably saw what was coming and stopped him in his tracks, knowing how he'd react and how ultimately he'd have no choice but to come back to her.

Even is she was (which she isnt) Why is JJ trying to turn John against Josie for, twat.

Because any woman who makes you feel like that surely isn't good for you. Seriously, we've seen what a jealous manipulative cow she is in the house - imagine her on the outside world.

[Jamietwo]

I dont like JJ2 on elittle bit, dont like watching him on live feed at all. I have no idea why I dislike him but its pretty strong. My instincts have rarely failed me in the past. If I met him RL Id avoid him. He strikes me as a creeparse.

hmmm i've just remembered how he was saying 'one day' over and over again in the snug,,, about how he would one day have a big garden with a TV room..he is very ambitious, nothing wrong with that, but i wonder if it's jj2 that has the strongest game plan, he is very focused on jj1, so he has gone straight to the core of the drama in the house...he appears to be a cool operator

[ibook4113]

I am really happy that JJ1 has a new friend in JJ2 and i think it is quite important that they become better friends to try and cool down the JJ and Josie situation. However i am still not sure about how JJ2's motives, because while it is really nice that he is being such a good friend to JJ1, he may be using JJ1 as a 1st class ticket to last couple of weeks.

I am happy that he is trying to expose Josie though, because i think Josie draws bad things out of John James sometimes. She often makes jokes at him (which JJ1 takes as a joke) but really they are quite insulting i.e, mentioning stinky breath, etc. She actually seems to belittle John James quite alot. She treats him like a puppy, holding him close like a hot water bottle, where his affection makes her feel better. But she doesn't seem to care how it comes across to him.

[WOMBAI]

Even is she was (which she isnt) Why is JJ trying to turn John against Josie for, twat.

He is trying to open JJ's eyes as to what a scheming, manipulative bitch Josie is - thing is like attracts like - they have a lot in common!

[camster]

I wonder why Josie was so reluctant for John to say anything about the situation on the video where he returns too the house. Any insight?

[RosieRed xxx]

I wonder why Josie was so reluctant for John to say anything about the situation on the video where he returns too the house. Any insight?

Probably embarrassment cos he kept saying I dont want to lead you on and she just wanting him to stop talking about it.

[Zippy]

I wonder why Josie was so reluctant for John to say anything about the situation on the video where he returns too the house. Any insight?

Past caring.

Wish they'd hold hands and jump off a cliff together at this point.

[camster]

i think there is something dodgy going on hmm.

[offelia]

they love each other a lot but don`t want anything happen in front of camera.
looks to me like a foreplay:)

[Brekkie]

I wonder why Josie was so reluctant for John to say anything about the situation on the video where he returns too the house. Any insight?

Because she doesn't want to face facts. This whole situation arose because she wouldn't let John James say what he needed to say. From the clips we can piece together he basically wants to cool it in the house but see what happens when they leave - but Josie basically only let him say about cooling it in the house before throwing a hissy fit, and then refused to talk about it all afterwards.

[AngelChair]

I don't get the josie hate ... I wonder if some jj1 lovers are a bit jealouse or something, I'm quite old and experienced and spot things most of the time, but I've not seen an obvious gameplan from josie. Respect to all of them in there for just surviving the pressure, it must be a trip...

jj2 i'm not at all sure about...my gaydar was going off pretty strongly when he arrived and now it's not, not important i know, but theres something i don't like about him, he wears a mask that's very confident and capable not disimilar to keevas mask , but he is better at it. Keeva was obviously smug and narcissistic i think jj2s dark side is better hidden. Also his little pug face sort of annoys me...bahhh who am i to judge?!

I agree with all of this statement! Cheers!

[the-gaffer]

Deep down she doesn't think JJ would ever be interested in her and shes trying to remain in a position where she can just shrug her shoulder and say SO when the inevitable split happens, from what I've saw though JJ really is into her and she just doesn't realise this, maybe if JJ did what they used to do in the olden days though and get stuck into her in bed it might help give her an indication, all that closeness without even a kiss will mess with anyones emotions or thinking

[bansheewails]

I think Josie is great but needs to keep away from JJ. He is the one thats leading her up the garden path. When JJ2 came in he upped his game and its backfired. Josie fancies JJ rotten and Jj is playing up to it.

As for JJ2 there is something very strange about him, he is like JJ's doplerganger, and I think it is all a tactic, he will get on JJ's side and then whip the mat from under him. He is freaking me out a bit.

[the-gaffer]

I want JJ2 to turn on JJ1 in a sneaky fashion, the show needs to end with a Nasty Nick character

[rusticgal]

John James has made it subtly clear that he loves Josie in a sisterly way.... He sees her as a great friend... we all need a good friend.Sleeping in her bed was probably a little mis-leading and TBH I dont know how that first came about....prob with the arrival of new HM's.
However Josie can turn really nasty when things dont go her way.... why didnt she just be mature and agree with him or talk it over.
Now she will have it in for him bigtime....unless he gives into her demands.

[the-gaffer]

John James has made it subtly clear that he loves Josie in a sisterly way.... He sees her as a great friend... we all need a good friend.Sleeping in her bed was probably a little mis-leading and TBH I dont know how that first came about....prob with the arrival of new HM's.
However Josie can turn really nasty when things dont go her way.... why didnt she just be mature and agree with him or talk it over.
Now she will have it in for him bigtime....unless he gives into her demands.

Sleeping in her bad after she told him she had feeling for him is very misleading, so is telling her he only wants to spend time with her and telling her out of the blue he loves her, then to top it off, intentionally going out his way to put a football top on just because she fancies him in it, the poor girl has finally started to believe he feels the same, no wonder shes pissed off