John james haters need to get over their jealousy.

[Vicky.]

The only reason to dislike him is because of his looks.

I mean, theres no personality there whatsoever...because apparently people can only like him because of his looks. Nothing to do with anything else.

So therefor, everyone who hates him, has to be jealous by your logic. If he has no personality that people could like...then there is also no personality for you to dislike.

Since everything is about looks.

[elliebrew]

Vicky there is nothing about his personality that is attractive.....that automatically makes him ugly to me!

[Vicky.]

Vicky there is nothing about his personality that is attractive.....that automatically makes him ugly to me!

Thats not my point.

The only possible reaosn to like john james is his looks...so therefor the only possible reason to dislike him is his looks.

[Niamh.]

Vicky there is nothing about his personality that is attractive.....that automatically makes him ugly to me!

There is nothing about his personality IN YOUR OPINION that is attractive. There is in some peoples.

[Alpertinator]

Vickys' point is valid. JJ haters seem to say that those who like JJ only do because of his looks and that he has no personality. If he has no personality and is only liked because of his appearance, then he has no personality to dislike, and must only be disliked because of his appearance.

[Jords]

Vicky you are not understanding, most of the BB audience are teenage girls, he is only popular because they all think he is fit, we know not all his fans are like that, inparticular adults, but there are way more young people who watch the show with a shallow mind set.

[Beastie]

Yep your right.. I am so jealous of JJ's looks!! I want to look like him.. shame I am a straight girl though ;) and yet.. I am supporting Corin.. who in reality I should be jealous of because of her looks... lol!!

[Zippy]

Sorry Vicky but your OP just baffles me!

There's plenty of very VALID reasons to dislike him.

Im not even gonna bother listing coz theyre so obvious!

[Niamh.]

Vicky you are not understanding, most of the BB audience are teenage girls, he is only popular because they all think he is fit, we know not all his fans are like that, inparticular adults, but there are way more young people who watch the show with a shallow mind set.

I don't mean to be rude Jordy but how do you know who watches BB, have you seen some statistics on it?

[Jack_]

I would laugh in someone's face if they told me I only support him because of his looks, considering I supported Marcus last year and he's my favourite ever housemate.

[Vicky.]

Vickys' point is valid. JJ haters seem to say that those who like JJ only do because of his looks and that he has no personality. If he has no personality and is only liked because of his appearance, then he has no personality to dislike, and must only be disliked because of his appearance.

Exactly.

And jords, I already know you are one of the more rational members who understands that not everyone is shallow. This was mostly directed at the people who seem to think that EVERYONE who likes him fancies him :)

[Niamh.]

Sorry Vicky but your OP just baffles me!

There's plenty of very VALID reasons to dislike him.

Im not even gonna bother listing coz theyre so obvious!

as is there plenty of valid reasons to like him as well.:hugesmile:

[Vicky.]

Sorry Vicky but your OP just baffles me!

There's plenty of very VALID reasons to dislike him.

Im not even gonna bother listing coz theyre so obvious!

There are also plenty of valid reasons to like him.

Which is what none of you seem to be able to get.

It all comes down to opinion.

[elliebrew]

lets pretend JJ is the ugliest man alive...say like andrew....

Would he get away with it then???

Its an inherent trait in a our culture that 'boys will be boys'

ever heard that?

Bad boys arent seen as such and no matter how vile or nasty they are they will always be excused because 'deep down theyre really just a nice bloke who has feelings and is just being honest about them'

[Mystic Mock]

I don't mean to be rude Jordy but how do you know who watches BB, have you seen some statistics on it?

you have just got to look at this forum to realise that jealous teenage girls watch it.

[Beastie]

Exactly.

And jords, I already know you are one of the more rational members who understands that not everyone is shallow. This was mostly directed at the people who seem to think that EVERYONE who likes him fancies him :)

I don't.. not EVERYONE.. but the majority I would presume.

[BBfan46]

The only reason to dislike him is because of his looks.

I mean, theres no personality there whatsoever...because apparently people can only like him because of his looks. Nothing to do with anything else.

So therefor, everyone who hates him, has to be jealous by your logic. If he has no personality that people could like...then there is also no personality for you to dislike.

Since everything is about looks.

No, there's little good qualities about his personality and there's is nothing to be jealous of why would I aspire to be an angry, attention-seeking wreck?

[Jack_]

lets pretend JJ is the ugliest man alive...say like andrew....

Would he get away with it then???

Its an inherent trait in a our culture that 'boys will be boys'

ever heard that?

Bad boys arent seen as such and no matter how vile or nasty they are they will always be excused because 'deep down theyre really just a nice bloke who has feelings and is just being honest about them'

Sorry but sometimes the nastier and viler a housemate is, the better. This is Big Brother not Loose ****ing Women.

[Jords]

I don't mean to be rude Jordy but how do you know who watches BB, have you seen some statistics on it?

No but its a simple assumption, I thought most people thought like this. Im at an all boys school ('cept sixth form) and its rarely spoken about, probably a reason why I found somewhere online to speak about it.

[elliebrew]

and yet you want him to win...but if he was a woman youd want him out.....

[Beastie]

Sorry but sometimes the nastier and viler a housemate is, the better. This is Big Brother not Loose ****ing Women.

I would say John James is draining.. he is a draining housemate that brings the mood down.. he doesn't entertain me.. and the sooner he is out.. the better. Just my opinion.

[Jords]

and yet you want him to win...but if he was a woman youd want him out.....

See Noirin.

[Niamh.]

you have just got to look at this forum to realise that jealous teenage girls watch it.

this forum doesn't represent the whole of the British public who watch and there are plenty of non teenage girls on here too

[Mystic Mock]

and yet you want him to win...but if he was a woman youd want him out.....

well charley uchea was the most hated in bb8 and she was nowhere near as argumentitive as john james.

[Vicky.]

lets pretend JJ is the ugliest man alive...say like andrew....

Would he get away with it then???

Get away with what?

Arguing and that?

Well, I liked marcus and rex, and they were both vile.

And I liked them for the exact reasons I like JJ. So yeah...next?

[Niamh.]

See Noirin.

I loved Noirin for the same reason I love JJ, she was interesting and entertaining

[Vicky.]

and yet you want him to win...but if he was a woman youd want him out.....

Says who?

Who do you think you are making random assumptions about people?

[Jords]

I would say John James is draining.. he is a draining housemate that brings the mood down.. he doesn't entertain me.. and the sooner he is out.. the better. Just my opinion.

This. The odd drama is always good, but with John James its always very very petty stuff which he shows hypocrisy about, which I find really boring. And the showmance with Josie is what weve seen many times before, it there was a chance it was real maybe, just maybe Id buy into it, but it obviously isnt which John James has finally confirmed to Josie's face.

[Beastie]

well charley uchea was the most hated in bb8 and she was nowhere near as argumentitive as john james.

I didn't like Charley either.. she DRAINED me.. like John James is DRAINING me.

[Niamh.]

No but its a simple assumption, I thought most people thought like this. Im at an all boys school ('cept sixth form) and its rarely spoken about, probably a reason why I found somewhere online to speak about it.

but it's an assumption you made, I never thought that way, I mean I'm 31 and watch it because I have watched it from the very first one so I would imagine alot of fans are older then young teenagers, people who have watched it from the start

[Vicky.]

I loved Noirin for the same reason I love JJ, she was interesting and entertaining

Same here actually. She was in my top three until about a week before she was evicted.

Again, next?

[Beso]

One things for sure!

He's a bloody interesting housemate

[Kazanne]

Vicky there is nothing about his personality that is attractive.....that automatically makes him ugly to me!

Ditto

[Beastie]

This. The odd drama is always good, but with John James its always very very petty stuff which he shows hypocrisy about, which I find really boring. And the showmance with Josie is what weve seen many times before, it there was a chance it was real maybe, just maybe Id buy into it, but it obviously isnt which John James has finally confirmed to Josie's face.

Yep.. falser than a false leg.. but the public just really want to try and believe this crap!! John James does not fancy Josie.. Josie only fancies John James a bit.. she will milk that she is "heart broken" though. Don't like either of them. Well did like Josie more before her and JJ got together.

[Jack_]

This. The odd drama is always good, but with John James its always very very petty stuff which he shows hypocrisy about, which I find really boring. And the showmance with Josie is what weve seen many times before, it there was a chance it was real maybe, just maybe Id buy into it, but it obviously isnt which John James has finally confirmed to Josie's face.

This is one of the most genuine Big Brother friendships/'romances' to me.

Not based on physical attraction, but based on love. Can't remember a time we've had that before.

[Niamh.]

One things for sure!

He's a bloody interesting housemate

Exactly, isn't that a more logical and believable reason as to why people might like him!!?

[Vicky.]

Well did like Josie more before her and JJ got together.

Hold up a minute...JJ is actually with josie now? When did that happen?!

[Beastie]

This is one of the most genuine Big Brother friendships/'romances' to me.

Not based on physical attraction, but based on love. Can't remember a time we've had that before.

It's all ruined now though because Josie has feelings for him. If they just had a good frienship with no fake love story then they would have been a good duo!!

[Vicky.]

Exactly, isn't that a more logical and believable reason as to why people might like him!!?

No niamh. When will you learn.

THE ONLY REASON TO LIKE HIM IS HIS LOOKS.

For gods sake. You can tell you are a woman blinded by him :bored:

[Beastie]

Hold up a minute...JJ is actually with josie now? When did that happen?!

Never.. but I just liked Josie before her and John got really close.. and this mentally draining showmance saga began.....

[Vicky.]

Never.. but I just liked Josie before her and John got really close.. and this mentally draining showmance saga began.....

Oh right, I get you now...I'm a little slow ;)

[Niamh.]

It's all ruined now though because Josie has feelings for him. If they just had a good frienship with no fake love story then they would have been a good duo!!

How do you a mean a fake love story???? I never saw them kissing or deciding that they were b/f and g/f, if you're going by the fact that they cuddle, then surely it's Ben and Dave who are the true lovers in there!

[Beastie]

Oh right, I get you now...I'm a little slow ;)

No problem :)

[Jords]

but it's an assumption you made, I never thought that way, I mean I'm 31 and watch it because I have watched it from the very first one so I would imagine alot of fans are older then young teenagers, people who have watched it from the start

Yeah but I think its very likely! I get the impression most fans lost interest as the series went on but new fans got into it who were made up of most young people. Idk, might be way off the mark but it seems so to me.

And I know you and Vicky dont like John James purely on looks, dont feel like youre being targetted, I think most people refer to all the girls at home with their mobile phones when they say 'JJ fans only like him because of his looks', I know thats the type I mean. :)

[joeysteele]

He's disgusting, those accursed hats and hoods he near always has on his hair,it must be rotten, he has the hat on outside, walks around the house with it on and even lies on the bed with the filthy hat thats just been all over outside ,on the ground etc on the pillow, what a disgusting habit to have. The hat must stink too.
Who leaves a hat they've worn outside. lying on the ground with and then puts their head with it on on a pillow others will also be using when they lie down too, filthy disrespectful animal that he is.Actually no, that is an insult to animals, many of which likely have more respect and manners than filthy JJames.

[Jezzy]

John James is my boyfriend's favourite...nothing to do with his looks, he just finds him entertaining because he is a dumb Aussie psycho :)

[Beastie]

How do you a mean a fake love story???? I never saw them kissing or deciding that they were b/f and g/f, if you're going by the fact that they cuddle, then surely it's Ben and Dave who are the true lovers in there!

They have both said "i love you" to each other.. and you could see they both got too close.. more than a friendship!! Now Josie is crying under the bed because John James has now told her.. the FULL TRUTH. I think..

[Niamh.]

No niamh. When will you learn.

THE ONLY REASON TO LIKE HIM IS HIS LOOKS.

For gods sake. You can tell you are a woman blinded by him :bored:

Alright, alright, I admit it, in fact I've already left my husband and bought my ticket to England where I'll be setting up a tent outside the BB house and will remain there till he's evicted, then I will proclaim my undying love and devotion to him :wink:

[Beastie]

Yeah but I think its very likely! I get the impression most fans lost interest as the series went on but new fans got into it who were made up of most young people. Idk, might be way off the mark but it seems so to me.

And I know you and Vicky dont like John James purely on looks, dont feel like youre being targetted, I think most people refer to all the girls at home with their mobile phones when they say 'JJ fans only like him because of his looks', I know thats the type I mean. :)

This.

On my facebook there is teenage girls saying that "OH my god JJ is fit" and blah blah....

[Zippy]

I just have a problem with him winning. He just doesn't cut it as a worthy winner in terms of decent behaviour. A lot of his alleged honesty is just rudeness. Certainly towards Rachael. And now the way he misleads Josie....all of which should drop him down the bookies ratings. But probably won't coz he's the pretty boy who looks more cute and vulnerable when he cries.

And just knowing how he's studied BB UK just makes his behaviour suspicious.

Contrived.

[Vicky.]

Alright, alright, I admit it, in fact I've already left my husband and bought my ticket to England where I'll be setting up a tent outside the BB house and will remain there till he's evicted, then I will proclaim my undying love and devotion to him :wink:

Bitch! I will beat you there...I dont need to get a plane, HES MINE! :p

[Jords]

This.

On my facebook there is teenage girls saying that "OH my god JJ is fit" and blah blah....

Same, they were nearly in outrage when he was up against Nathan on mine. :laugh:


'Dont take my John James away, he is FIIIT' or something similar was a status, LOL.

[Beastie]

I just have a problem with him winning. He just doesn't cut it as a worthy winner in terms of decent behaviour. A lot of his alleged honesty is just rudeness. Certainly towards Rachael. And now the way he misleads Josie....all of which should drop him down the bookies ratings. But probably won't coz he's the pretty boy who looks more cute and vulnerable when he cries.

And just knowing how he's studied BB UK just makes his behaviour suspicious.

Contrived.

I agree Zippy.

[Vicky.]

This.

On my facebook there is teenage girls saying that "OH my god JJ is fit" and blah blah....

It just gets very very annoying being grouped in with a few teenage girls who are shallow as hell.

It happens constantly.

[arista]

Bitch! I will beat you there...I dont need to get a plane, HES MINE! :p




Vicky Wants To Ride Him


Sexy Time

[Niamh.]

Yeah but I think its very likely! I get the impression most fans lost interest as the series went on but new fans got into it who were made up of most young people. Idk, might be way off the mark but it seems so to me.

And I know you and Vicky dont like John James purely on looks, dont feel like youre being targetted, I think most people refer to all the girls at home with their mobile phones when they say 'JJ fans only like him because of his looks', I know thats the type I mean. :)

fair enough Jordy but I think you are wrong, I mean look at the last few years winners, Sophie should be exactly the opposite of what these girls you talk about would vote for, they should be fiercly jealous of her in fact. And what Rachel? and Brian Belo?

My step daughter is 15 and she doesn't watch BB and neither do any of her friends which is why I think that its mostly people a bit older watch it

[Beastie]

It just gets very very annoying being grouped in with a few teenage girls who are shallow as hell.

It happens constantly.

Sorry if I ever came across as targetting you and Niamh.. well I think I have.. because you two like John James and I detest him but I know that you and Niamh are one of the few mature ones that I know won't just like John James because of his looks!

I am too passionate and hot headed about the housemates.

[Beastie]

I kept going on about my hate for Cameltoe as well. lol

[Kazanne]

I don't.. not EVERYONE.. but the majority I would presume.

I agree,what sane adult woman would seriously think JJ was a nice 'man' let alone a worthy winner.i can not think of one redeeming quality he has,he used to be one of my faves,i can hardly believe that myself!!:joker:

[Niamh.]

I agree,what sane adult woman would seriously think JJ was a nice 'man' let alone a worthy winner.i can not think of one redeeming quality he has,he used to be one of my faves,i can hardly believe that myself!!:joker:

I hope you are not implying that me and Vicky are insane because we like a HM you don't!

[Vicky.]

Sorry if I ever came across as targetting you and Niamh.. well I think I have.. because you two like John James and I detest him but I know that you and Niamh are one of the few mature ones that I know won't just like John James because of his looks!

I am too passionate and hot headed about the housemates.

:laugh: Its not just you. it is basically nearly everyone who dislikes JJ who puts us all under the same category.

I agree,what sane adult woman would seriously think JJ was a nice 'man' let alone a worthy winner.i can not think of one redeeming quality he has,he used to be one of my faves,i can hardly believe that myself!!:joker:

And I never thought he was a nice man. But hes a damn good housemate ;)

[Kore]

as is there plenty of valid reasons to like him as well.:hugesmile:

Agreed once again Niam... wahey lol

[Niamh.]

Sorry if I ever came across as targetting you and Niamh.. well I think I have.. because you two like John James and I detest him but I know that you and Niamh are one of the few mature ones that I know won't just like John James because of his looks!

I am too passionate and hot headed about the housemates.

lol, that's ok Beasty:joker:

[Mystic Mock]

I agree,what sane adult woman would seriously think JJ was a nice 'man' let alone a worthy winner.i can not think of one redeeming quality he has,he used to be one of my faves,i can hardly believe that myself!!:joker:

i could never imagine you liking john james.

[Zippy]

It just gets very very annoying being grouped in with a few teenage girls who are shallow as hell.

It happens constantly.

But I think his looks DO play a big part in your attraction. Its that mix of cute pretty boy looks with angry, confused, issue riddled personality. Youve virtually suggested as much yourself.

So take away his looks and I doubt you'd be so drawn to him. It's the juxtaposition that draws you in.

[Niamh.]

Actually my biggest problem is people assuming that we're a certain type of person because of who we like IN A TV SHOW. I mean say what you like about JJ if you don't like him, fair enough, but don't assume I must a certain type of person because I do like him!!

[Patrick]

Thats not my point.

The only possible reaosn to like john james is his looks...so therefor the only possible reason to dislike him is his looks.

I don't like him due to his looks :joker:

Although I can see what you mean from a girl point of view, all his fans on the female side wouldn't give a sh*t about him if he looked like Dave.

I just like him due to his humour and the way he's so slow and loves to argue and I also like him because of the fact he knows so much about BB UK and he isn't even from here and because he obviously wants to win and wants to play the game, I love game players.

[Niamh.]

But I think his looks DO play a big part in your attraction. Its that mix of cute pretty boy looks with angry, confused, issue riddled personality. Youve virtually suggested as much yourself.

So take away his looks and I doubt you'd be so drawn to him. It's the juxtaposition that draws you in.

Don't be so patronizing:nono:

[Vicky.]

But I think his looks DO play a big part in your attraction. Its that mix of cute pretty boy looks with angry, confused, issue riddled personality. Youve virtually suggested as much yourself.

So take away his looks and I doubt you'd be so drawn to him. It's the juxtaposition that draws you in.

No, looks are nothing at all to do with it.

I like housemates that are interesting, nothing at all to do with looks. take dale for example. I think he was the fittest housemate to ever be on BB...but he was a total knobend. And I disliked him. I even voted him out.

My favourites out of the last series' were Marcus/freddie, and Rex. I see marcus and rex as being very similar to JJ. So I must just be drawn to rude argumentative people on BB. They make it interesting.

Or are you going to tell me I fancied Rex and Marcus too?

[Beso]

The teenage girl argument....shabbY's fans outside the studios the other day!

most of them were teenage girls, and came together through facebook!

[Zippy]

Don't be so patronizing:nono:

:sleep: I wasn't even talking to you!

[Novo]

- His Smug little face when he gets someone to agree with him even know he is wrong
- The way he tries to belittle people and shouts to get his point across instead of talking
- His views towards the public are pathetic, " **** the public i don't care about the public " why come on big brother to be watched by Millions of people when you don't care about the public?
- His fake relationship with Ogre


Those are the Main reasons why people don't like Skippy

[Jack_]

Even if he was a gameplayer, why would people criticise him for playing a gameshow to its full capacity?

Only in pathetic overly-moral Britain would that happen.

[Jack_]

- His views towards the public are pathetic, " **** the public i don't care about the public " why come on big brother to be watched by Millions of people when you don't care about the public?


For the experience?

[Niamh.]

:sleep: I wasn't even talking to you!

and......................?

[Zippy]

Only in pathetic overly-moral Britain would that happen.

The fact he's the fave to win kinda goes against your point.

There's no morality in somebody like him winning.

[Mystic Mock]

No, looks are nothing at all to do with it.

I like housemates that are interesting, nothing at all to do with looks. take dale for example. I think he was the fittest housemate to ever be on BB...but he was a total knobend. And I disliked him. I even voted him out.

My favourites out of the last series' were Marcus/freddie, and Rex. I see marcus and rex as being very similar to JJ. So I must just be drawn to rude argumentative people on BB. They make it interesting.

Or are you going to tell me I fancied Rex and Marcus too?

dale survived an 8 way eviction and made it to week 9.

[Patrick]

Even if he was a gameplayer, why would people criticise him for playing a gameshow to its full capacity?

Only in pathetic overly-moral Britain would that happen.

Exactly.

This is why Victor should of won BB5, A proper game player and it is a game show.

[Jack_]

The fact he's the fave to win kinda goes against your point.

There's no morality in somebody like him winning.

I meant if he (or any other housemate) admitted to having a gameplan/playing the game. Like Nick Bateman...

Then they would be hated

[prkp12]

im not jealous atall thanks :)

[Vicky.]

dale survived an 8 way eviction and made it to week 9.

Umm...I dont really care.

I was talking about how I voted/my fave housemates :conf:

[Vicky.]

im not jealous atall thanks :)
Oh I love it when people dont even read the OP but still feel the need to comment :wavey:

[Novo]

For the experience?

Experience of being watched in a house by the Public which there are Millions off....

[Jords]

fair enough Jordy but I think you are wrong, I mean look at the last few years winners, Sophie should be exactly the opposite of what these girls you talk about would vote for, they should be fiercly jealous of her in fact. And what Rachel? and Brian Belo?

My step daughter is 15 and she doesn't watch BB and neither do any of her friends which is why I think that its mostly people a bit older watch it

Sophie really had to earn approval though, disliked straight away because she was a glam model. She let herself go, put some weight on, didnt care much for her looks whilst being in, really relaxed and wasnt 2-faced etc. Her personality won it as she went against what she initially looked like.

Meh, God knows why Brian won, he was just a thick idiot and Samanda were robbed that year! Rachel didnt seem intimidating when she got dressed up, just a lovely girl. Its the confident girls that take pride in looking good that are usually not liked, but men who work-out to stay in good shape are not looked upon in the same manner.

Hmmm, well nobody knows for certain, just different peoples opinion on who they think watch the show. :)

[Zippy]

Sophie had to win round the audience after instant hate.

With pretty boys its the other way round...they get instant fans and then have to mess up big time to lose them.

[Jords]

I meant if he (or any other housemate) admitted to having a gameplan/playing the game. Like Nick Bateman...

Then they would be hated

See I think the opposite, if they were open in the DR to us that they had a gameplan to avoid being nominated, Id have more respect, the fact they think they can fool us puts me right off.

And I used to think Josie and JJ's friendship was geniune, but now I think Josie just wants to be in his pants and JJ leading her on for the airtime. BB should stop trying to sell it as a romance, would make them more likable if it was seen upon as a friendship between a man and a woman, because normally theyre always accused of fancying each other and cant be just friends.

[Jords]

Sophie had to win round the audience after instant hate.

With pretty boys its the other way round...they get instant fans and then have to mess up big time to lose them.

Summed up well Zippy!

[Tom4784]

I don't get how you can hate someone so much really, it must take so much energy to repeatedly make topics about the same HMs over and over again, doesn't it ever get boring? Because i get irritated coming on here and seeing about 50 threads of 'I hate Josie' 'John James is Vile!!!!!!!'

It's just boring.

[Jack_]

Experience of being watched in a house by the Public which there are Millions off....

That's not the 'experience'.

The experience is living in a confined space for numerous weeks with complete strangers, having no contact with the outside world.

And making friends for life/having fun/seeing what happens. That's the experience. The public watching doesn't come into it.

[tpau21]

JJ fans need to stop thinking with their penis and vaginas and realise aggresisive he is an aggresive peice of shiitt

[Vicky.]

JJ fans need to stop thinking with their penis and vaginas and realise aggresisive he is an aggresive peice of shiitt

Another who either didnt read the thread, or just wants to miss the point.

Oh yay

[Zippy]

That's not the 'experience'.

The experience is living in a confined space for numerous weeks with complete strangers, having no contact with the outside world.

And making friends for life/having fun/seeing what happens. That's the experience. The public watching doesn't come into it.

LOL. I dont think he would make several 23hr killer journies just for that. He doesn't even seem very sociable in groups.

My guess is that he's here to play game. He's studied it and thinks he knows the formula. The tricks, the buttons to press.

And youre naive if you think being watched by millions isn't a factor. These BB HMs are all varying degrees of exhibitionists.

[Braden]

He can't be defined as a good-looking person though.

It's only your opinion, just because you think he's good looking doesn't mean everyone has to .

[Novo]

That's not the 'experience'.

The experience is living in a confined space for numerous weeks with complete strangers, having no contact with the outside world.

And making friends for life/having fun/seeing what happens. That's the experience. The public watching doesn't come into it.

The Point is the Public are going to be a massive part of your life after the show and play a massive part of your Experience in the show.. Not giving a **** about them is the wrong way to go.. All those things you mentioned you can do without being in the big brother house... the public are the bigger Picture in the Gameshow

[flamingGalah!]

I have never said he has no personality, he does... a nasty, aggresive, argumentative, spiteful one... If you like that sort of person good for you, unfortunately not my cup of tea thanks... :xyxwave:

[Angus]

Thats not my point.

The only possible reaosn to like john james is his looks...so therefor the only possible reason to dislike him is his looks.

Your point is not axiomatic.

I do not find John James attractive, and am baffled by those who do, but each to their own. I dislike him because he professes NOT to be playing a game, when quite evidently he is, (I've no problem with that but cant stand him for denying it) He professes NOT to like liars (although he lies). He professes that he is not at all attracted to Josie or romantically interested in her yet he continues to lead her on. He professes NOT to care about public perception, yet he is continuously banging on about other people's game plans, and how they are being perceived. He picks on people that he perceives to be weaker than himself in order to grandstand and create dramas around himself. He is the biggest HYPOCRITE in the house, and I detest hypocrites.

But you need not worry since the producers have made JJ1 their chosen one and despite him breaking the rules talking about noms with Dave, it is not he who is up for eviction, and despite him breaking out of the house, they have allowed him back in. He is even prepared to break a girl's heart to win, that's how nasty he really is.

He is sly, manipulative and devious and I can't imagine why you would think anyone could be jealous of such a lying snake? I'm certainly not (oh and by the way I'm female and can assure you I find him totally repulsive).