Do any Tibbers believe anything about Dave?

[Crimson Dynamo]

Seriously

is there anyone out there who thinks that Dave "me have something" may be onto something" regarding his "religion"

or, like me, do you think he is a nasty cheat who preys on the gullible?

[minty3]

from what ive seen hes nt been nasty at all dave or corin 2 win

[Crimson Dynamo]

from what ive seen hes nt been nasty at all dave or corin 2 win

:conf:

[BigBrotherfan4ever]

Seriously

is there anyone out there who thinks that Dave "me have something" may be onto something" regarding his "religion"

or, like me, do you think he is a nasty cheat who preys on the gullible?

Totally agree with you, i think he is a nasty cheat, as disabled person myself, i think its really sick of him to say he can heal people, i take real offense to his claims..TBH

[Crimson Dynamo]

Totally agree with you, i think he is a nasty cheat, as disabled person myself, i think its really sick of him to say he can heal people, i take real offense to his claims..TBH

correct

he cannot heal anything

if he had magical powers he would not be so f-ing fat

or ugly

[jjj2]

stopping john james leaving was just grand standing for the cameras he is very switched on to that sort of thing never misses a chance

[BigBrotherfan4ever]

stopping john james leaving was just grand standing for the cameras he is very switched on to that sort of thing never misses a chance

100% agree with you, i noticed that too:devil:

[smudgie]

:joker::joker: He is a joke.
All that talk of throwing the task, ermmm let us see now.
And someone who is so holy would not be such a nasty devil.

[fingers]

And after GOD told him that he was opening the doors for him, how ungrateful!

[WOMBAI]

Dave is one of my favs! I don't think he is a charlaton, a fake or anything else of that nature! Misguided, like most religious people, but nothing more! People should stop attacking him for his religious beliefs!

[bigbrothermfer]

dave is awesome

[Beso]

Judge him on what he does in the house.

dave to win, or nearly win, or something similar.

[Crimson Dynamo]

Dave is one of my favs! I don't think he is a charlaton, a fake or anything else of that nature! Misguided, like most religious people, but nothing more! People should stop attacking him for his religious beliefs!

there is a whole hill of beans difference in having religious beliefs and trying to hoodwink others with pseudo theology in order to gain him wealth, power and status

[paper-cut-exit]

He's the biggest bullsh!tter in there imo.

[Crimson Dynamo]

This is who inspired Dave

ie this is who he copied


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and this is one of the original fakers being exposed (he got an aid pregnant and had to give up)

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[Livia]

I think he believes it. Which is the important thing, I think.

[Crimson Dynamo]

I think he believes it. Which is the important thing, I think.

no he does not

and that IS the important thing

[watchinittoomuch]

I think he believes it. Which is the important thing, I think.

I'm with you there...but you do realise that the psychics and mind readers here will be able to tell you different :laugh:

I'm up for a Sloshfest meself....30notes and line of the new testament and I'm anyone's.

[Livia]

no he does not

and that IS the important thing

Yeah, whatever.

[Tom4784]

He's the only HM I don't really like, he's a complete gameplayer but more importantly he's a bore. I want Steve to go this week but I wouldn't midn seeing the back of Dave either.

As for the religion stuff, I don't believe it really he only becomes 'drunk' on god when he's up for eviction.

[ange7]

Judge him on what he does in the house.

dave to win, or nearly win, or something similar.
no
judge him on what he says
"I can cure cancer by just rubbing the tumor....if you don't believe me I got in on video!!"
He is damaged!

[BigBrotherfan4ever]

no
judge him on what he says
"I can cure cancer by just rubbing the tumor....if you don't believe me I got in on video!!"
He is damaged!

:thumbs:

[Livia]

I'm with you there...but you do realise that the psychics and mind readers here will be able to tell you different :laugh:

I'm up for a Sloshfest meself....30notes and line of the new testament and I'm anyone's.

Yeah, I've realised there are people here who know freakin' everything.

I'm more an old testament kinda gal... but what the hell, anything for a party.

[Crimson Dynamo]

But cant everyone see

he was never "!drunk in the lord" and all that tosh until he saw the guys in America on YOutube

He copied what he saw on the internet

it has nowt to do with god or jeeeesus

he just mimics

[Crimson Dynamo]

http://www.apologeticsindex.org/778-john-crowder-sons-of-thunder

[ange7]

I think he believes it. Which is the important thing, I think.
??
what does that even mean?
People can and do believe all sorts of stuff. He's a con artist at worst....a nutter at best. He 'believes' he can cure cancer ...but "as long as he believes it that's the important thing" (??!!??).

[Livia]

But cant everyone see

he was never "!drunk in the lord" and all that tosh until he saw the guys in America on YOutube

He copied what he saw on the internet

it has nowt to do with god or jeeeesus

he just mimics

Judge not, that ye be not judged. For with what judgment ye judge, ye shall be judged: and with what measure ye mete, it shall be measured to you again.

That's a Christian thing, isn't it?

[watchinittoomuch]

Yeah, I've realised there are people here who know freakin' everything.

I'm more an old testament kinda gal... but what the hell, anything for a party.

I'm game...split a bottle of godka?

[Crimson Dynamo]

http://www.thenewmystics.com/Articles/1000041102/Home_Page_of/About_Us/SOT_Associates/David_and_Donna.aspx

[Crimson Dynamo]

Judge not, that ye be not judged. For with what judgment ye judge, ye shall be judged: and with what measure ye mete, it shall be measured to you again.

That's a Christian thing, isn't it?

no

its a cobbled together mis-quoted load of bs

[Livia]

I'm game...split a bottle of godka?

LMAO... God, it's been a long day. Took at least ten second for the penny to drop there.

[ange7]

Judge not, that ye be not judged. For with what judgment ye judge, ye shall be judged: and with what measure ye mete, it shall be measured to you again.

That's a Christian thing, isn't it?

lol so you can't "judge" a con artist who cheats the cash of cancer sufferers?

screw this thread hehe

[Livia]

no

its a cobbled together mis-quoted load of bs

I think you'll find it's a direct quote from the King James version of the Bible... Matthew 7 v. 1-2

Sorry I thought you were a believer the way you were ranting in such an evangelical fashion. My mistake.

[Crimson Dynamo]

I think you'll find it's a direct quote from the King James version of the Bible... Matthew 7 v. 1-2

Sorry I thought you were a believer the way you were ranting in such an evangelical fashion. My mistake.

i was right the first time

[fingers]

This is how he got into the house!

hSApPk51wI0

[Livia]

i was right the first time

As far as I can see you've been wrong continuously. But at least you're consistent.

[Crimson Dynamo]

As far as I can see you've been wrong continuously. But at least you're consistent.

feel my glory

iljasdcwscbwsuabhcddsuadbhsuiadhlsiubhauhcvsidhshv uadchuasdhc


:elephant::elephant::elephant:

[fingers]

feel my glory

iljasdcwscbwsuabhcddsuadbhsuiadhlsiubhauhcvsidhshv uadchuasdhc


:elephant::elephant::elephant:

How dare you, how VERY dare you!:hugesmile:

[flamingGalah!]

No. He is a complete ******!!!! Making out he can cure cancer & grow amputees new limbs is sick & obviously complete bullsh*t!! I'm not sure if he is 100% a vile crook or if his brain has been *******ed from years of drink & drug abuse, either way he is a scumbag of the highest degree & I hope he goes to hell... :devil:

[Crimson Dynamo]

If he did not have pc he would be just a twat from south wales working in that amusement arcade where nessa works

[fingers]

If he did not have pc he would be just a twat from south wales working in that amusement arcade where nessa works

Nah, he'd be out collecting money from passers-by while dressed a a fake monk sitting in a wheelchair!

[Shasown]

Nah, he'd be out collecting money from passers-by while dressed a a fake monk sitting in a wheelchair!



Does he collect money from passers by? On that video you posted a few times yesterday he only offered them blessings, no money was seen to change hands or was asked for. Unless of course I missed it, wasnt exactly rivetting stuff.

[fingers]

Does he collect money from passers by? On that video you posted a few times yesterday he only offered them blessings, no money was seen to change hands or was asked for. Unless of course I missed it, wasnt exactly rivetting stuff.

There are so many videos each one as boring as all the others, I guess GOD showers him with gold dust just as he claimed that a business man on TV was showered with gold dust "from the Lord". (wonder where THAT video is??)

[Shasown]

There are so many videos each one as boring as all the others, I guess GOD showers him with gold dust just as he claimed that a business man on TV was showered with gold dust "from the Lord". (wonder where THAT video is??)

Am just wondering, does he collect money from people, or does he claim benefits? Maybe he even does both.

[fingers]

Am just wondering, does he collect money from people, or does he claim benefits? Maybe he even does both.

Peter Plunker will tell you that he does not claim benefits.

In fact he takes his money fom the donations made by cult members, must be a substantial amount to fund his many trips to the USA, the Middle East and anywhere else where he can top up his sun tan!:hugesmile:

Wasn't it L. Ron Hubbard the inventor of Scientology, who said, "if you want to get rich, invent a religion" lol

[fingers]

Another view of St. Dave "drunk on Jesus Juice"QdXIscIou74&feature=related

You can easily tell when he's acting "drunk" by his obvious heavy breathing/wheezing between phrases/sentences, he does the same in the BB house.

[shaz20]

stopping john james leaving was just grand standing for the cameras he is very switched on to that sort of thing never misses a chance
I noticed that, he always gets in on the action!

[Peter Plunker]

Look at you lot, all foaming at the mouth and incensed because a man prays for sick people and spends his time telling people that their creator loves them. Silly Billys.

[Livia]

Look at you lot, all foaming at the mouth and incensed because a man prays for sick people and spends his time telling people that their creator loves them. Silly Billys.

They're not listening Peter. They don't receive, they just transmit.

"And some fell on stoney ground", eh?

[flamingGalah!]

Look at you lot, all foaming at the mouth and incensed because a man prays for sick people and spends his time telling people that their creator loves them. Silly Billys.

You made a spelling error there... he PREYS on sick people, he doesn't PRAY for them... :xyxwave:

He cons money out of the sick & vulnerable telling them he can cure their cancer, when he can do no such thing...

The people who support what he does are "silly billys" though I would actually use much stronger language... :xyxwave:

[Peter Plunker]

You made a spelling error there... he PREYS on sick people, he doesn't PRAY for them... :xyxwave:

He cons money out of the sick & vulnerable telling them he can cure their cancer, when he can do no such thing...

The people who support what he does are "silly billys" though I would actually use much stronger language... :xyxwave:

LOL, I see what you did there, very clever, big gold star for you.

Where's your proof that he cons people out of money? Quoting Fingers doesn't count.

[fingers]

The long and short of it is, he's a Charlatan and a con man.

[Peter Plunker]

They're not listening Peter. They don't receive, they just transmit.

"And some fell on stoney ground", eh?

Ha, you may be right there :D

[fingers]

Is there a full moon again?

[Peter Plunker]

The long and short of it is, he's a Charlatan and a con man.

That's your opinion, it's wrong but believe it anyway if it helps you sleep better.

[flamingGalah!]

LOL, I see what you did there, very clever, big gold star for you.

Where's your proof that he cons people out of money? Quoting Fingers doesn't count.

I'm going by what St Dave has said HIMSELF in the house :xyxwave:

So he can cure cancer then?? Wow... I'm sure there is proof for that then...

[flamingGalah!]

That's your opinion, it's wrong but believe it anyway if it helps you sleep better.

If it's his opinion how can it be wrong?? :conf:

So St Dave CAN grow amputees new limbs then & cure cancer, bloody hell, he should work at a hospital, he's wasted pretending to be pissed all the time...

[LBB11]

stopping john james leaving was just grand standing for the cameras he is very switched on to that sort of thing never misses a chance

What realy buged me was he seen John james was very upset yet he was going after him laughing? why bother going after him at all?

[fingers]

What realy buged me was he seen John james was very upset yet he was going after him laughing? why bother going after him at all?

He usually laughs when he's been at the Jesus Joice!

[LBB11]

I'm going by what St Dave has said HIMSELF in the house :xyxwave:

So he can cure cancer then?? Wow... I'm sure there is proof for that then...

Thats totally sick, my best friends dad had cancer 7years ago he bet it but its came back now and hearing people say **** like that makes me personaly very angery. :devil: :devil:

[flamingGalah!]

What I don't understand about St Dave the magical healer, is when Keeley hurt her ankle, why didn't he fix it?? I mean would be a piece of piss to him if he can grow someone new legs & cure cancer... :conf:

[fingers]

Never mind, Peter, come Saturday you can wheel him, dressed in his Monk's suit , around Cardiff in one of his 4 Wheelchairs.

[flamingGalah!]

Thats totally sick, my best friends dad had cancer 7years ago he bet it but its came back now and hearing people say **** like that makes me personaly very angery. :devil: :devil:

I lost my Dad to cancer, so I hate Dave with a real passion for taking advantage of sick & vulnerable people who are desperate for anything to work... He wants locking up... :devil:

[flamingGalah!]

Never mind, Peter, come Saturday you can wheel him, dressed in his Monk's suit , around Cardiff in one of his 4 Wheelchairs.

Yes they can go & get pissed whilst sniffing the LSD laced bibles... :xyxwave:

[the-gaffer]

Dave is fantastic, it amuses me how many people can have sensationalist hate over someone

[BJ]

Judge him on what he does in the house.

dave to win, or nearly win, or something similar.

I do - he's a two faced back biter. I really hope he goes on Friday

[flamingGalah!]

Dave is fantastic, it amuses me how many people can have sensationalist hate over someone

Because he preys on sick & vulnerable people, telling them that he can cure their cancer for a donation! That's why...

[fingers]

Dave is fantastic, it amuses me how many people can have sensationalist hate over someone

Quite, you've obviously refused to watch his antics on YouTube while he's acting pissed as a fart on Jesus juice!.

THAT'S the REAL David Vaughan, not the pretend St. Dave whom GOD told that He was going to open the big Brother doors for.

[LBB11]

I lost my Dad to cancer, so I hate Dave with a real passion for taking advantage of sick & vulnerable people who are desperate for anything to work... He wants locking up... :devil:

You so got that right i lost my mum not to cancer to emathama (can never spell that right) but anyway i am so mad at people who as you said pray on people who are ill or dieing.
When i was in my friends the other day we were talking about big brother and with out realy thinking first (as she hasnt got the internet) her and her partner were talking about how they are starting to like Dave and i told her about this and she got very angry, i didnt think, i was cot in the moment, i felt realy bad as her dad is such a nice guy.

[ElProximo]

I think he believes it. Which is the important thing, I think.

LeatherTrumpet, plenty of times I strongly agree with you but on this one I think you have it wrong.

Dave believes it. I would be happier to find out he was just a plain old scam artist,
but,
In talking to him online, knowing some from his group and being in their circles and just by watching them online you can see, unfortunately, David really does believe this nonsense.

The first I saw him and Crowder in 'drunken/high glory' I presumed they were a couple of comedians/pranksters who were making some kind of sarcastic documentary where they take the piss out of fringe Christian.
Something like these 'Yes Men' prank/protests.
To show up how gullible these types are.

But no.. they are just hardcore involved and into it and maybe the best evidence is that nothing can convince them otherwise.

[flamingGalah!]

You so got that right i lost my mum not to cancer to emathama (can never spell that right) but anyway i am so mad at people who as you said pray on people who are ill or dieing.
When i was in my friends the other day we were talking about big brother and with out realy thinking first (as she hasnt got the internet) her and her partner were talking about how they are starting to like Dave and i told her about this and she got very angry, i didnt think, i was cot in the moment, i felt realy bad as her dad is such a nice guy.

Do you mean emphysema? I lost my Nan to that, horrible disease...

A lot of people do not realise what Dave is like, they think he is just a harmless nutter, doing his "drunk on God" sh*t, but he is disgusting, claiming to be able to cure people when he can do no such thing & taking advantage of people who are in such desperate situations... I hope he goes to hell :devil:

[starry]

Yes...what I believe is that he is a good HM. Far better than quite a few others in there including JJ, Andrew, Josie, Steve, Laura, Rachel and maybe others too.

[LBB11]

Do you mean emphysema? I lost my Nan to that, horrible disease...

A lot of people do not realise what Dave is like, they think he is just a harmless nutter, doing his "drunk on God" sh*t, but he is disgusting, claiming to be able to cure people when he can do no such thing & taking advantage of people who are in such desperate situations... I hope he goes to hell :devil:

Yes thank you my spelling isnt to grate actully due to the fact i was taking out of school at 13 to look after her so my dad could work and did so untill she passed in 06 she had it for 14years but she got very bitter nere the end as she hated being suck in the house with a oxgen tube, to my oldest son it was normall for granny to be in the hospital but my youngest never got to know her, me and my oldest still talk about her thow.

Sorry think im geting way off topic here.

[flamingGalah!]

Yes thank you my spelling isnt to grate actully due to the fact i was taking out of school at 13 to look after her so my dad could work and did so untill she passed in 06 she had it for 14years but she got very bitter nere the end as she hated being suck in the house with a oxgen tube, to my oldest son it was normall for granny to be in the hospital but my youngest never got to know her, me and my oldest still talk about her thow.

Sorry think im geting way off topic here.

That's ok, I'm not a member of the spelling police... :D

I love to talk about my Dad all the time, it helps to keep his memory alive :hug:

[Livia]

LeatherTrumpet, plenty of times I strongly agree with you but on this one I think you have it wrong.

Dave believes it. I would be happier to find out he was just a plain old scam artist,
but,
In talking to him online, knowing some from his group and being in their circles and just by watching them online you can see, unfortunately, David really does believe this nonsense.

The first I saw him and Crowder in 'drunken/high glory' I presumed they were a couple of comedians/pranksters who were making some kind of sarcastic documentary where they take the piss out of fringe Christian.
Something like these 'Yes Men' prank/protests.
To show up how gullible these types are.

But no.. they are just hardcore involved and into it and maybe the best evidence is that nothing can convince them otherwise.


You quoted my post... I'm not Leather Trumpet, but in reply...

I don't think you or anyone else can say what Dave does or doesn't believe in his heart. Everyone who is religious has faith that is not open for negotiation and, like you say, nothing can convince them otherwise. That's their choice.

[Peter Plunker]

I lost my Mam 2 years ago too.

How is going up to someone in the street and praying for them 'preying' on them? I don't get your logic. What's the worst that can happen, they walk off as ill as they were before thinking who was that weirdo. The best that can happen is they get healed and know that Jesus died for them.

[LBB11]

That's ok, I'm not a member of the spelling police... :D

I love to talk about my Dad all the time, it helps to keep his memory alive :hug:

thanks its weird i meen its the big brother board and we did start off about a hm but i just couldnt stop once i started.

[fingers]

I lost my Mam 2 years ago too.

How is going up to someone in the street and praying for them 'preying' on them? I don't get your logic. What's the worst that can happen, they walk off as ill as they were before thinking who was that weirdo. The best that can happen is they get healed and know that Jesus died for them.

What a load of codswallop.

anyway you can collect St. Dave on Friday night down Elstree way, remember to bring his Jesus Juice.

At least you're getting loads of free publicity for that DVD box set you are advertising in your sig.

[Peter Plunker]

What a load of codswallop.

anyway you can collect St. Dave on Friday night down Elstree way, remember to bring his Jesus Juice.

At least you're getting loads of free publicity for that DVD box set you are advertising in your sig.

Yeah because I'm in a Californian thrash metal band :conf:

[flamingGalah!]

I lost my Mam 2 years ago too.

How is going up to someone in the street and praying for them 'preying' on them? I don't get your logic. What's the worst that can happen, they walk off as ill as they were before thinking who was that weirdo. The best that can happen is they get healed and know that Jesus died for them.

Bullsh*t :sleep:

He CLAIMS he can CURE THEM, he doesn't just pray for them, that is the BIG difference...

And "the best that can happen is they get healed" Stop talking bo**ocks mate, it is not possible to cure someone simply by praying for them...

And I'm sure most people couldn't give two hoots about the mythical character Jesus, from that bestselling novel "The Bible"... :xyxwave:

[LBB11]

Bullsh*t :sleep:

He CLAIMS he can CURE THEM, he doesn't just pray for them, that is the BIG difference...

And "the best that can happen is they get healed" Stop talking bo**ocks mate, it is not possible to cure someone simply by praying for them...

And I'm sure most people couldn't give two hoots about the mythical character Jesus, from that bestselling novel "The Bible"... :xyxwave:

lmao i was going to comment on this but would have ended in a angry rant, glad you and fingers did.

[ElProximo]

I think he believes it. Which is the important thing, I think.

You quoted my post... I'm not Leather Trumpet, but in reply...

I don't think you or anyone else can say what Dave does or doesn't believe in his heart. Everyone who is religious has faith that is not open for negotiation and, like you say, nothing can convince them otherwise. That's their choice.

I intended to multi-quote and so just went with it. David might be one of the greatest actors on the planet,
but,
even worse I think it becomes quite clear he definitely believes in this 'charismania ecstasy' business.

People who think he is acting or faking this.. .. I think that might seem more plausible if you only knew about him and this stuff from BB highlights.

[InOne]

Nobody can cure the sick with magic powers. Anyone who thinks that is seriously deluded.

[Jamietwo]

I lost my Mam 2 years ago too.

How is going up to someone in the street and praying for them 'preying' on them? I don't get your logic. What's the worst that can happen, they walk off as ill as they were before thinking who was that weirdo. The best that can happen is they get healed and know that Jesus died for them.

I'm sorry for your loss, i lost mine in jan 2008 :(

i'm sorry, but jesus did not die for me, NO WAY...he died for his own sins, not mine. Plenty of people have died for (and because of) him and his followers though. I can be loving and forgiving without jesus and without the collection of nutty books that is the bible.

[ElProximo]

Nobody can cure the sick with magic powers. Anyone who thinks that is seriously deluded.

Magic is not 'supernatural' but 'natural. In fact, a clever surgeon may be able to use some props, hand manipulation and 'trick the body' into a cure for some ailment.
We can call this sort of manipulation and trickery using natural forces and things as "Magic Powers".

Now 'supernatural' power is something that may or may not be able to heal sickness or cure disease.
Do we see this happening today?
I've never seen it. Some are interesting or make me want to know more but I've never seen it.

You haven't either (that you know of) but you have ABSOLUTELY NO WAY of asserting it could not happen.
Nothing.
Like a thousand other things you have never seen may very well have happened or exist.
Surely millions of things.

[stonedape]

Magic is not 'supernatural' but 'natural. In fact, a clever surgeon may be able to use some props, hand manipulation and 'trick the body' into a cure for some ailment.
We can call this sort of manipulation and trickery using natural forces and things as "Magic Powers".

We can, but we don't. We refer to that sort of manipulation and "trickery" using natural forces "medicine" or "science".

You haven't either (that you know of) but you have ABSOLUTELY NO WAY of asserting it could not happen.
Nothing.
Like a thousand other things you have never seen may very well have happened or exist.
Surely millions of things.

Which is exactly why it's so stupid to subscribe to just a few unfalsifiable concepts (UFOs, a creator of the universe) when there's a nearly infinite amount of concepts we could subscribe to if our only rationale was we can't disprove all possibilities in space and time. That's why you need some kind of positive, objective evidence before considering an extraordinary claim true..."I have no evidence he committed the crime, but you have ABSOLUTELY NO WAY of asserting it could not have happened. LOCK HIM UP!" :joker:

[InOne]

Magic is not 'supernatural' but 'natural. In fact, a clever surgeon may be able to use some props, hand manipulation and 'trick the body' into a cure for some ailment.
We can call this sort of manipulation and trickery using natural forces and things as "Magic Powers".

Now 'supernatural' power is something that may or may not be able to heal sickness or cure disease.
Do we see this happening today?
I've never seen it. Some are interesting or make me want to know more but I've never seen it.

You haven't either (that you know of) but you have ABSOLUTELY NO WAY of asserting it could not happen.
Nothing.
Like a thousand other things you have never seen may very well have happened or exist.
Surely millions of things.

You can dance around it as much as you want, fact is, Christianity is a joke.