Bens comment about Josie was really out of order

[troy4783]

about how she dressed and she should not dress the way she does cause of her size i love ben but who gives him the right to say that gone right down in my estimations

[bansheewails]

I think Ben needs to take a close look in a big mirror at himself before he can decide what Josie is allowed to wear in his presence. Lets face it Ben ain't no Gok is he! :D

[calyman]

about how she dressed and she should not dress the way she does cause of her size i love ben but who gives him the right to say that gone right down in my estimations

Yeh JJ (Judas) thouight so to, mind you, he also thought Josie had 98 chins.

[Kazanne]

about how she dressed and she should not dress the way she does cause of her size i love ben but who gives him the right to say that gone right down in my estimations

He didnt say it that way did he?he said Josie was wearing small tops etc,that were not right for her because of her shape,in other words she was wearing stuff just to impress crab eyes as she fancies him,it's laughable really as it was crab eyes that called her fat arse and 98 chins,I know which description I would rather have.

[Kazanne]

Ben is the sort of guy that if you said "Does my bum look big in this" he would tell you the truth!

[troy4783]

I think Ben needs to take a close look in a big mirror at himself before he can decide what Josie is allowed to wear in his presence. Lets face it Ben ain't no Gok is he! :D

i agree he is getting a lot of hate on the facebook page i think he might be in trouble on friday now

[Patricia4]

I agreed with Ben he was telling the truth and John James know's she's a big whale but he needs to stay in the house.

[Kazanne]

i agree he is getting a lot of hate on the facebook page i think he might be in trouble on friday now

Have they forgotten crab eyes comments to josie,er fat arse and 98 chins !!!! hypocrites a plenty

[troy4783]

He didnt say it that way did he?he said Josie was wearing small tops etc,that were not right for her because of her shape,in other words she was wearing stuff just to impress crab eyes as she fancies him,it's laughable really as it was crab eyes that called her fat arse and 98 chins,I know which description I would rather have.

he did say that

[Kazanne]

he did say that

He did not say it in a nasty way though did he ,he just said she was wearing small tops that do not suit her shape,he was right,it's much better than being called 98 chins and fatarse from someone who supposedly 'loves' you

[Livia]

I'm with Kazanne on this one.

[bansheewails]

All that from a man who can't take a comment about his hair in good humour. Ben is being a spiteful old queen because BB and the housemates do not revolve around him like the planets to his sun.

Its time 'old benji boy' went home and stayed there.

[Angus]

Ben spoke the truth, as usual. Funny thing JJ1 agreed with him, never pulled him up about it because it was true, and let's face it he never holds back usually, does he? But he stored it up as a reason to nom Ben, the little sh*t, and to make himself look good to the public. But the ever loving JJ didn't stick up for his "one true love" to Ben because he AGREED with him:rolleyes:

The whole HLs show has been taken up tonight with this crapmance, and I don't know how ANYONE can still believe that JJ1"loves" Dozy after everything he has said and done. If anyone still believes in this sh*t, they are even more stupid and deluded than I ever imagined.

[jojo10]

he did say that

He only said it because on Sunday night Josie along with some of the others decided to dress up for the boys to see if they would notice, which none of them were bothered about, so he's just going on about that day in particular, it was on LF. Also, John James has also made nasty remarks about Josie's weight so he's 1 to talk, idiot, get John James out on Friday, he's such a hypocrite.

[Boothy]

It was genius. Ben gets better day after day. It wasn't said in a malicious way, lighten up.

[THE WATCHER]

Ben was being honest with a statement that was true, a fattie cannot get away with a slimmer persons clothing, otherwise said fatty ends up looking like a bag of ****e tied in the middle. Why can't fatties accept that they are fat and its not nice seeing flab hanging out all over the show

[Lex]

What the hell did he say wrong?.....It was only the truth!!!!

And only the Benhaters and maybe Josies mother would deny the fact!!
:elephant:

[the-gaffer]

Ben is just an inconsiderate clown to be fair.

I doubt he means to be offensive, he is just simply to wrapped up in his own little me me me world that he is practically incapable of realising he is hurting people with what he says, he might feign sorrow when he is pulled up for something but he simply keeps making these stupid mistakes because he simply doesn't genuinely care about people, as long as his needs are met he is a happy camper

I'm fine with it, I just wish he would be

Also, I wouldn't have him any other way for the show, he makes for great viewing

[Lex]

Ben was being honest with a statement that was true, a fattie cannot get away with a slimmer persons clothing, otherwise said fatty ends up looking like a bag of ****e tied in the middle. Why can't fatties accept that they are fat and its not nice seeing flab hanging out all over the show

LOL!..Harsh ...but true!....If anyone else had said it....The Benhaters would have nodded in agreement and smiled!! :dance:

[jools]

I dont mean it to be nasty,I mean I love Ben,I really do,but,he is soooo boring,and such a little bitch.

[bansheewails]

^^^ At least someone agrees with me. :D

[Jords]

I think he meant that it wouldnt go unnoticed, rather than she looks a mess because of it. Because she is used to covering herself completey up (though myself havnt noticed any difference!)

[serensilver]

Its a terrible thing to say! Ben was way out of order! even if he thought it dont say it to her best mate!

[Gillian-73]

He didn't say it like that! He said shes wearing 'little tops' that don't suit her shape to get john james to look at her! And, he was right! I don't think josies FAT i think she looks great for her build but not all clothes suit every womans shape :)

[poejoe]

I agreed with Ben he was telling the truth and John James know's she's a big whale but he needs to stay in the house.

he'll do anythink to win:devil:

[troy4783]

who gives ben the right to say that though its none of his buisness all he does is bitch every episode its getting tedious

[Angus]

Its a terrible thing to say! Ben was way out of order! even if he thought it dont say it to her best mate!

Yet her best mate, ol' Crab Eyes sat and nodded in agreement, because Ben spoke the absolute truth, as always. Let's face it, she looked absolutely enormous tonight stood next to the weedy Aussie twat. Don't let's pretend she ain't big, and she should not be wearing tight tops, perhaps her "real" mates should tell her. Spare tyres and overhanging stomachs are not a good look, and she could look so much better if she dressed for her shape.

As for being a terrible thing to say, I don't hear all you Ben haters say a dickie bird at some of the abuse that's hurled his way. Hypocrites? Much.

[watchinittoomuch]

It was pretty ****ty.

[ibook4113]

who gives ben the right to say that though its none of his buisness all he does is bitch every episode its getting tedious

Thankyou thankyou thankyou.

He is getting worse every episode. But he has been bitching about people from the beginning but covers it up in a compliment.

It is worth noting (and i remember this from previous big brothers when they had psychologists talking) that when someone says something then says 'but' it usually cancels out everything they have said before. i.e. 'I love mario but he can be gloomy' which becomes 'Mario can be Gloomy, and i dislike him for that.'

Yet her best mate, ol' Crab Eyes sat and nodded in agreement, because Ben spoke the absolute truth, as always. Let's face it, she looked absolutely enormous tonight stood next to the weedy Aussie twat. Don't let's pretend she ain't big, and she should not be wearing tight tops, perhaps her "real" mates should tell her. Spare tyres and overhanging stomachs are not a good look, and she could look so much better if she dressed for her shape.

As for being a terrible thing to say, I don't hear all you Ben haters say a dickie bird at some of the abuse that's hurled his way. Hypocrites? Much.

We are commenting on his character and are outside the house. Ben is insulting someone inside the house very rudely. The fact that John James was n't bothered by it was because he knows Ben is full of **** anyway.

[Angus]

We are commenting on his character and are outside the house. Ben is insulting someone inside the house very rudely. The fact that John James was n't bothered by it was because he knows Ben is full of **** anyway.

Spin it how you want, JJ1 was in agreement with Ben. Let's face it JJ1 usually has a go at Ben for absolutely nothing, so if he was offended by that remark why didn't he say something? And don't lie about HOW Ben said it, he pointed out that Josie was dressing inappropriately for her figure in order to compete with the other girls because she felt threatened. He did not say it maliciously, no matter how much you would like to believe that.

If, on the other hand, Ben WAS being horrible as you believe, what does that make JJ1 just sitting there and agreeing?

[ibook4113]

Spin it how you want, JJ1 was in agreement with Ben. Let's face it JJ1 usually has a go at Ben for absolutely nothing, so if he was offended by that remark why didn't he say something? And don't lie about HOW Ben said it, he pointed out that Josie was dressing inappropriately for her figure in order to compete with the other girls because she felt threatened. He did not say it maliciously, no matter how much you would like to believe that.

If, on the other hand, Ben WAS being horrible as you believe, what does that make JJ1 just sitting there and agreeing?

1. He was being rude. They all know how Josie feels about her figure. It was meant as insult, and said as an insult. No Less!
2. John James has argued with Ben before and it gets no-where because thinks he is the centre of the universe, there is no point in JJ1 arguing with him. It seemed to me like JJ bit his tongue because no matter what you do ben is always convinced he is right.
And apparently his supporters are exactly the same.

[Kazanne]

Spin it how you want, JJ1 was in agreement with Ben. Let's face it JJ1 usually has a go at Ben for absolutely nothing, so if he was offended by that remark why didn't he say something? And don't lie about HOW Ben said it, he pointed out that Josie was dressing inappropriately for her figure in order to compete with the other girls because she felt threatened. He did not say it maliciously, no matter how much you would like to believe that.

If, on the other hand, Ben WAS being horrible as you believe, what does that make JJ1 just sitting there and agreeing?

Well said Angus and why has no one commented on what names crabeyes has called her which imo is much worse than Ben said,it's simple they just want something ,anything to have a go at Ben for, while at the same time letting crab eyes be cruel and nasty,anyone with a brain cell would know how Ben meant it but here we go again,"Oh Bens being a bitch" are these people for real?

[joeysteele]

BEN was spot on actually,as KAZANNE says if you had something on that ws making you look rediculous and you asked Ben do I look nice in this he would tell you no,not out of malice but to spare you embarrassment.He is no saint but unlike most in there he is totally honest. Josie is hardly a CHERYL COLE type of girl,and she is doing herself no favours as to dress semse in ther e at present whether its ill fittin outfits or ugly duvets wrapped round her or very unflattering dressing gowns, BEN by the way always looks great.

[Kazanne]

1. He was being rude. They all know how Josie feels about her figure. It was meant as insult, and said as an insult. No Less!
2. John James has argued with Ben before and it gets no-where because thinks he is the centre of the universe, there is no point in JJ1 arguing with him. It seemed to me like JJ bit his tongue because no matter what you do ben is always convinced he is right.
And apparently his supporters are exactly the same.

How was Ben rude? so calling her 98 chins and fatarse is not rude,(it's luuurrrve) but saying wearing small tops does not suit her shape is:joker::joker::joker::joker::joker::joker::joker ::joker:,OMG,JJ bit his tongue,my arse:joker::joker:deluded much.

[troy4783]

its none ben buisness how she dresses though also about jj calling josie 98 chins that was a joke and he was only messing around but ben was not

[ibook4113]

So let me get this straight. I say that someone looks fat and that the clothes they wear make them look bad. I am complimenting them? Good God! ben supporters are worse than Ben himself. '98 chins' was in response to her insulting him, and insult which she did not realise was as insulting as she thought, they both apologised for it. 'Fatarse' i don't remember this, but they do have loads of jokes they have with each other. I would be OK for a friend to joke with me knowing that they were joking. I would not want some posh stuck up twat commenting on my appearance when he isn't even my friend.

[Angus]

1. He was being rude. They all know how Josie feels about her figure. It was meant as insult, and said as an insult. No Less!
2. John James has argued with Ben before and it gets no-where because thinks he is the centre of the universe, there is no point in JJ1 arguing with him. It seemed to me like JJ bit his tongue because no matter what you do ben is always convinced he is right.
And apparently his supporters are exactly the same.

Jeez, when will you open your eyes to the piece of sh*t that is JJ1?

[joeysteele]

Do you know something in all honesty there's a lot of nonsense talked as to JJames caring for Josie, I tell you this between the 2, Josie would find that the person out of the house who would be more caring as a friend and a better friend than most to her would be BEN, and he would be a 1000 times a better friend than JJames who will likely drop Josie like a hot brick the moment BB is finished.

[ibook4113]

Jeez, when will you open your eyes to the piece of sh*t that is JJ1?

Will you open you eyes up to the piece of **** that is ben? A selfish, self-obsessed, whining, twisting, lyer.

[Kazanne]

Will you open you eyes up to the piece of **** that is ben? A selfish, self-obsessed, whining, twisting, lyer.

Examples please of Bens lies?

[Kazanne]

Do you know something in all honesty there's a lot of nonsense talked as to JJames caring for Josie, I tell you this between the 2, Josie would find that the person out of the house who would be more caring as a friend and a better friend than most to her would be BEN, and he would be a 1000 times a better friend than JJames who will likely drop Josie like a hot brick the moment BB is finished.

Funny,Joey they don't answer the questions that need answering,isn't it?

[Angus]

So let me get this straight. I say that someone looks fat and that the clothes they wear make them look bad. I am complimenting them? Good God! ben supporters are worse than Ben himself. '98 chins' was in response to her insulting him, and insult which she did not realise was as insulting as she thought, they both apologised for it. 'Fatarse' i don't remember this, but they do have loads of jokes they have with each other. I would be OK for a friend to joke with me knowing that they were joking. I would not want some posh stuck up twat commenting on my appearance when he isn't even my friend.

As you said, Josie is NOT his friend, that was proved by her nomming him, so if others can say stuff to him without censure, he is accorded the same privilege. Didn't see the duvet draped diva anywhere near when he said that, so how was he insulting her? She and others have made plenty of derogatory comments about Ben - he seems to be the butt of all their nasty digs and jokes because he is non confrontational and they get away with it, so why should they be exempt from criticism? Ben spoke the truth, and sometimes the truth hurts. It would only an insult if it were NOT true. Now you're suggesting that her best pal couldn't be arsed to challenge Ben if he was that upset about it? - that makes him even more of a tosser.

As for JJ&J supporters - what I think of them is unprintable because despite all the evidence in front of their eyes they refuse to believe what the rest of us can plainly see, and for that I can only pity them.

[Angus]

Will you open you eyes up to the piece of **** that is ben? A selfish, self-obsessed, whining, twisting, lyer.

No Josie the Duvet Diva, is the "lyer" - it's all she does all day long, lying in bed.:sleep:

As for JJ1 HE is the barefaced "liar"- lying to her and to the viewers, and STILL they think the sun shines out of his crabby eyes cos "he's fit innit"?

[joeysteele]

Kazanne, they dont answer because although they can say something they cannot back it up with facts,You are spot on and although I know we are wasting our time trying to get any fairness out of them, I will jump in for Ben anyday. He is the most honest genuine guy who is beintg totally himself in there.
No you are right they NEVER can come back with any answers that are backed up with facts all they can do is be silly and pathetic but we know the truth and we can defend Bne bexause he makes it so easy to do for him with his honesty and decency,likely something his attackeers know NOTHING at all about, being honest and decent.

[Kazanne]

Kazanne, they dont answer because although they can say something they cannot back it up with facts,You are spot on and although I know we are wasting our time trying to get any fairness out of them, I will jump in for Ben anyday. He is the most honest genuine guy who is beintg totally himself in there.
No you are right they NEVER can come back with any answers that are backed up with facts all they can do is be silly and pathetic but we know the truth and we can defend Bne bexause he makes it so easy to do for him with his honesty and decency,likely something his attackeers know NOTHING at all about, being honest and decent.

Spot on Joey but you know the facts will confuse them don't you?:xyxwave:

[troy4783]

So let me get this straight. I say that someone looks fat and that the clothes they wear make them look bad. I am complimenting them? Good God! ben supporters are worse than Ben himself. '98 chins' was in response to her insulting him, and insult which she did not realise was as insulting as she thought, they both apologised for it. 'Fatarse' i don't remember this, but they do have loads of jokes they have with each other. I would be OK for a friend to joke with me knowing that they were joking. I would not want some posh stuck up twat commenting on my appearance when he isn't even my friend.
Well said ben fans are seriously deluded

[Kazanne]

Well said ben fans are seriously deluded

He DIDN'T SAY SHE LOOKED FAT did he? but crab eyes did,but you keep denying, and dream on.

[joeysteele]

I dont think they know what FACTS are Kazanne, they likely think its only what you send to someone through a machine.Not realising the FACTS we are talking about is something totally different,they probably dont even notice it has a different spelling either.

[troy4783]

kazane he basically did call her fat and john james has never called josie fat so i dont know where u got that from

[AtomicKitty]

I'm done with him.. I want him out.. how dare him.
I want him to go back into obscurity

[Wee-Mo]

has Ben never heard the saying {IF YOU HAVE NOT GOT SOMETHING NICE TO SAY THEn
SAY NOTHING } he would never utter a word if he had :sleep::sleep: