Ben has sealed his fate today by slagging of John James and Josie!!

[Legend killer]

If this is shown on hl tomoz he is a goner

Bye Bye Ben

[serensilver]

:dance::dance::dance::xyxwave: see ya Ben! :dance::dance::xyxwave:

[RosieRed xxx]

He called Josie a pig and John James a piglet ..

[Tom4784]

I'm sure it'll be Dave going, especially if he goes into full on god mode again.

[Josy]

He also called Mario a competitive little creep.

[Legend killer]

I'm sure it'll be Dave going, especially if he goes into full on god mode again.
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Ben is slight fav to go on betfair with his odds shortining

[Zippy]

I honestly dont think Ben cares about going. Actually think he bitches to deliberately get voted out.

He's smart he could play a much better game if he really cared.

[Legend killer]

Does anyone else think ben will try and make JJ explode at some point so he can play the victim and get the sympathy vote

[WOMBAI]

If this is shown on hl tomoz he is a goner

Bye Bye Ben

And many will love him for it - for being the only one to have the intelligence to see through them and have the guts to say so!

[Legend killer]

And many will love him for it - for being the only one to have the intelligence to see through #
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lol yeah takes real guts to slag ppl of behind thier back. You think he will say it to thier faces, Not A Chance

[Josy]

From the c4 site:

Ben appears to have been a little bit hypocritical as after he left the nest he went straight and told Mario that he mustn't talk badly of people - adding 'I don't bitch about people'.



LMAO :laugh3:

[Livia]

He called Josie a pig and John James a piglet ..

I thought people liked HMs who "tell it like it is".

[Zippy]

I think there's a huge misconception that Ben is really keen to win. Ive actually felt he's been keen to get out for past couple of weeks. He actually told Cameltoe he would walk but the timing wasnt right two weeks back.

Winnings not his aim.

[Livia]

He also called Mario a competitive little creep.

Yeah... what's your point?

[WOMBAI]

And many will love him for it - for being the only one to have the intelligence to see through #
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lol yeah takes real guts to slag ppl of behind thier back. You think he will say it to thier faces, Not A Chance

What like Josie and JJ have done! One rule for them and another for Ben in your book? He has the intelligence to realise that they are probably not as popular outside as people in there think! And they are becoming less popular by the day!

[Legend killer]

What like Josie and JJ have done! One rule for them and another for Ben in your book? He has the intelligence to realise that they are probably not as popular outside as people in there think! And they are becoming less popular by the day
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lol they are 2nd and 3rd faves to win

[smudgie]

If only Ben was more assertive and confrontational. He would be perfect:hugesmile:

[Julesuk]

Ben is only in BB to promote himself and to be honest if I was a producer I would promote him right out the door - only time he springs to life is when he is centre of attention doing what he wants to do. Fed up of him thinking he has the right to slag every housemate off.

[Livia]

What like Josie and JJ have done! One rule for them and another for Ben in your book? He has the intelligence to realise that they are probably not as popular outside as people in there think! And they are becoming less popular by the day
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lol they are 2nd and 3rd faves to win

Yeah, on some rather unreliable polls.

Legend, your posts with cut and paste quotes are a bit difficult and confusing to read. Could you just quote in the normal way? No offence intended...

[Gillian-73]

And many will love him for it - for being the only one to have the intelligence to see through them and have the guts to say so!

here here! Well said! People forget not everyine is a fan of john james and josie :sleep:

[WOMBAI]

What like Josie and JJ have done! One rule for them and another for Ben in your book? He has the intelligence to realise that they are probably not as popular outside as people in there think! And they are becoming less popular by the day
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lol they are 2nd and 3rd faves to win

Not for long! :joker: A lot of people don't even bother voting until the end - so that means nothing!

[Showstopper]

silly move by Ben to annoy the publics darlings

[muchadoaboutnothing]

And many will love him for it - for being the only one to have the intelligence to see through #
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lol yeah takes real guts to slag ppl of behind thier back. You think he will say it to thier faces, Not A Chance

Do you mean like the time (in the Nest) when Ben told John James that he thought Josie has started wearing tight tops? John James half agreed but could wait until a few hours later in the DR when he (JJ) nominated Ben for saying that Josie has begun to wear tighter tops. So who is the hypocrite here? John James didn't have the guts to say to Ben what he thought of Ben's remark but rather mention it during nominations. I fail to see how Ben has sealed his fate by slagging of John James and Josie, in fact he says what a lot of us are thinking. Good for Ben.

[joeysteele]

Ben is the most genuine housemate in there, and alls he says about anyone is pure facts, if you can come back with anything he has said that wasnt't true about anyone in there then do so but make sure you can back it up with undisputable facts.
AS for commenting on Josie and JJames ,I think even some of their own supporters are getting fed up witht he saga and although some fans of them remain clouded and their eyes blinkered,an ever growing number of people agree with Bne and know this is a fake romance, maybe contrived, maybe not but something that will be dead as soon as BB is finished and also Josie and JJames once all the parties and celebrations of BB are over are problably likely to never even see each other again let alone have a romance outside the house.
BEN today only said what really most people,even some of Josie/JJames supporters too are really thinking and saying themselves.
Ever patient Corin I think is getting fed up of the saga too.

[WOMBAI]

silly move by Ben to annoy the publics darlings

You are so deluded about their popularity! More and more people who used to like them - are waking up to them - open your eyes!

[Malza]

Ben appears to have been a little bit hypocritical as after he left the nest he went straight and told Mario that he mustn't talk badly of people - adding 'I don't bitch about people'.

I wish they would play his bitching sessions to the others one day... Ok, that would take days, but well worth it

[BJ]

He also called Mario a competitive little creep.

He got that right then

[Legend killer]

Yeah, on some rather unreliable polls
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No on pretty much every poll and also with the bookies

[30stone]

Ben has been bithcing for ages?? and insulting..

What makes this different.

[Showstopper]

You are so deluded about their popularity! More and more people who used to like them - are waking up to them - open your eyes!

I dont see why anyone would have turned against them that previously liked them, they havent done anything wrong. Their main compitition for winning the show is fast becoming each other

[30stone]

Ben is the most genuine housemate in there, and alls he says about anyone is pure facts, if you can come back with anything he has said that wasnt't true about anyone in there then do so but make sure you can back it up with undisputable facts.


I think you need to back that up really.

Every thing he says about people is undisputable facts, thats a big call..

[Zippy]

I dont see why anyone would have turned against them that previously liked them, they havent done anything wrong.

Er, they get more and more ridiculous by the day!

Starting to look staged and phoney too.

[Kazanne]

I think you need to back that up really.

Every thing he says about people is undisputable facts, thats a big call..

Well prove any different?

[bbfan1991]

Ben has been bithcing for ages?? and insulting..

What makes this different.

I don't get what his problem with their friendship is, he's always been sucking up to Josie pretending to like her then slags her off, he obviously doesn't like John James.. it's not like the pair of them have questioned him on his friendship with Dave.

I also find both Ben and Dave keep telling the housemates they love them before tearing into them in The Nest patronising.

[DrunkerThanMoses]

He got that right then

Let me guess he said it behind marios back again :sleep:

At least mario (altough over reacts the situations), has the guts to tell Ben the truth to his face, ben on the other hand dosent. I rather have another week of the ****ty romance and dave and his lord than ben bitching about people at any chance given.

[Showstopper]

Plus Bens comments to JJ last night on the live feed were outragous !

[Legend killer]

I think the problem with ben is he secretly fancies John james and hates himself for it. This is why all he ever talks about is john james and he hates josie for the fact that her and john james are close

[DrunkerThanMoses]

I think the problem with ben is he secretly fancies John james and hates himself for it. This is why all he ever talks about is john james and he hates josie for the fact that her and john james are close

Well he must fancy mario as well, as he cant get through a sentence without saying his name.

[Kazanne]

Let me guess he said it behind marios back again :sleep:

At least mario (altough over reacts the situations), has the guts to tell Ben the truth to his face, ben on the other hand dosent. I rather have another week of the ****ty romance and dave and his lord than ben bitching about people at any chance given.

No he doesn't, I can name a few that haven't been said to his face,so be fair here ,mario does his fair share of being nasty and he's cruel with it to.

[Kazanne]

I think the problem with ben is he secretly fancies John james and hates himself for it. This is why all he ever talks about is john james and he hates josie for the fact that her and john james are close

:joker::joker::joker::joker::joker::joker::joker: In your dreams.funny though

[DrunkerThanMoses]

No he doesn't, I can name a few that haven't been said to his face,so be fair here ,mario does his fair share of being nasty and he's cruel with it to.

I highly doubt he does what ben does everytime mario is not around him, rip into him.

[bbfan1991]

Mario has finally woken up to Ben, although he is an irritant too;).

[Legend killer]

mario does his fair share of being nasty and he's cruel with it to.
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Yea i dont really like mario either i find him very creepy u see the way he just sat there staring at ben on highlights last night very weird

[Zippy]

I think the problem with ben is he secretly fancies John james and hates himself for it.

What? Er speak for yourself!

Even if Ben were gay I doubt JJ would be his type. Youre overthinking it too much. He bitches about JJ coz JJ has been digging at him from the get go. Looking for an arguement for airtime.

[DavinamcCaw]

He called Josie a pig and John James a piglet ..

He's right though.

[Ladieangel20]

Ben needs to stop making comments about people cause he is just giving BB the power to do a massive hatchet job on him in the highlights.

[joeysteele]

30stone, I challenged you and others to come back with anythign he has said that wasnt true about someone else,I dont need to back that up, BEN makes that easy for me by simlply saying things he's observed and heard which are about the others but always right.People on here try to disagree but it for them to come back with undisputable facts that he has said anything about anyone that was not true,I dont need to because I have said he has not done that and all the programmes bear testament to that, now agai YOU 30stone, come back with anything he's said that was untrue and back that up with the programming undisputable facts as to your point.
If you cannot then I anf his supporters are right and you are unjustly criticising a guy for soemthing he has not done, and as for bitcvhing, ALL the housemates do that and gossip too usaully inventing nonsene as to what smeone has said, JJames being the master of that. Over again to you 30stone.really,the impertinence of you people who have no argument you can back up whatsoever.
Thank you again Kazanne,how do we educate these individuals,are they incapable of understanding and learning at all?

[oddballmisfitsFTW]

He called Josie a pig and John James a piglet ..

really? :joker:

+100 pts for Ben if he said that :elephant: :elephant: :elephant:

pig and piglet :joker: so true

[joeysteele]

BEN does say a lot about Mario,he has had Mario trying to get him for other reasons since day one. Yes, BEN does say things about MARIO BUT I WILL ENDEAVOUR TO TRY AND EXPLAIN THIS AGAIN TO YOU.He says things about MARIO but they are ALL true.Come back with anything he has said that isn't.with undisputable facts as to that.
Mario is also always running BEN down, saying some things that are NOT true, such as the GLEE task, Ben was apprehensive as to it, but he got into it and yes he seemed awkward but then he is as ANDREW STONE said classically trined, but BEN put great effort to succeed in that task,MARIO said he did not,MARIO lied,simple and factual.Even ANDREW STONE, when he was pushing BEN as to recording his streetlight people, but pushed and oushed Ben and BEN put his lal into that,whether it was good or not is snother matter but that alone shows that MARIO is a backstabber and a hypocrite,why is he hypocrite too/ HE is becaus ehad BEN showed the slightest interest in him sexually, BEN would ahve been the great hero for Mario,because he hasn't Mario has turned on him and LIES about him, Something BEN does not do anytime he talks about Mario,yes he talks about him but its all true what Ben says.He isn't a saint, but he says what he means and is honest with it.

[RosieRed xxx]

With Ben it's the fact that he has plenty to say behind their backs but when challenged he reverts back to being about 3 yrs and looking around for his nanny to come rescue him...."oh I didnt say that"..."You got me all wrong".."you are so mean to Me". You know he really wants to say "Nanny come and spank these naughty boys and girls their teasing me".
I think he has always had ppl look out for him and has no idea of the real world or how offensive some of his comments are.

[Kazanne]

If Ben was telling the truth about them,then all power to him,seems he DOES have more bottle than the rest of them.The truth HURTS afterall.

[Showstopper]

Er, they get more and more ridiculous by the day!

Starting to look staged and phoney too.

whats riddiculous to one man is entertaining to thousands of others. Theirs nothing staged about their relationship

[heyugoonie]

If Ben is evicted on friday then its goodbye bb11 from me, I'm serious if he goes I will no longer be watching the series. I really do not like Josie and John James (esp Josie

[DrunkerThanMoses]

If Ben is evicted on friday then its goodbye bb11 from me, I'm serious if he goes I will no longer be watching the series. I really do not like Josie and John James (esp Josie

Didnt you post this in another thread, do worry I think dave is going

[Josy]

If Ben was telling the truth about them,then all power to him,seems he DOES have more bottle than the rest of them.The truth HURTS afterall.

If he had any bottle at all he would tell them to their faces instead of telling them all he loves them then scurrying off to the nest and doing it behind their backs like a gossiping old woman.

[heyugoonie]

Didnt you post this in another thread, do worry I think dave is going

Yes I did, but it was the wrong thread so I deleted it and re-posted here. :hugesmile:

[Angus]

He called Josie a pig and John James a piglet ..

Ben always uses the exact analogy for any given situation! It's inspired me to throw a few more votes JJ1's way:joker:

[DrunkerThanMoses]

Yes I did, but it was the wrong thread so I deleted it and re-posted here. :hugesmile:

Oh I see

[Angus]

If he had any bottle at all he would tell them to their faces instead of telling them all he loves them then scurrying off to the nest and doing it behind their backs like a gossiping old woman.

Do you mean the way all the others bitch about fellow HMs behind their backs?:rolleyes:

[30stone]

30stone, I challenged you and others to come back with anythign he has said that wasnt true about someone else,I dont need to back that up, BEN makes that easy for me by simlply saying things he's observed and heard which are about the others but always right.People on here try to disagree but it for them to come back with undisputable facts that he has said anything about anyone that was not true,I dont need to because I have said he has not done that and all the programmes bear testament to that, now agai YOU 30stone, come back with anything he's said that was untrue and back that up with the programming undisputable facts as to your point.
If you cannot then I anf his supporters are right and you are unjustly criticising a guy for soemthing he has not done, and as for bitcvhing, ALL the housemates do that and gossip too usaully inventing nonsene as to what smeone has said, JJames being the master of that. Over again to you 30stone.really,the impertinence of you people who have no argument you can back up whatsoever.
Thank you again Kazanne,how do we educate these individuals,are they incapable of understanding and learning at all?

Really?

So i should be following everything he says so i know when he slips up and says the wrong thing..

just so i can tell you when he messes up?


How about if you show me everything hes said in the show and ill find the bits where he has said something untrue.

The fact of the matter is he makes assumptions, he doesnt state facts, about peoples personalities.

[Angus]

And many will love him for it - for being the only one to have the intelligence to see through #
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lol yeah takes real guts to slag ppl of behind thier back. You think he will say it to thier faces, Not A Chance

Yeah, like he's the only one who slags people off behind their backs! I'm going to laugh my socks off when Ben stays on Friday, because he will. JJ1&J are a laughing stock and people are getting heartily sick of the crapmance. Pig and piglet is a pretty good analogy; personally mine would be heifer and calf.:laugh:

[30stone]

Do you mean the way all the others bitch about fellow HMs behind their backs?:rolleyes:

People are saying bens got more bottle than anyone.

Its not about the others bitching to, if ben has the most bottle he wouldnt bitch.

[Josy]

Do you mean the way all the others bitch about fellow HMs behind their backs?:rolleyes:

Were in my post does it say they dont all bitch?

I was replying to the op saying Ben has the most bottle in the house when he clearly does not.......

Ben is the biggest bitcher in there, he has more faces than the town clock.

[paper-cut-exit]

Ben's has more bottle than everyone else now huh. These threads just keep on getting more ridiculous each day :joker:

[Kaaarenn!]

Ben just bitches about everyone. Erghh! Really starting to dislike him now :(

[Josy]

If Bens evicted this week his fans have no one to blame but themselves :)

[DrunkerThanMoses]

Ben just bitches about everyone. Erghh! Really starting to dislike him now :(

Vote him out then :p

[joeysteele]

30STONE, IF YOU CANNOT NAME AN INSTANCE AND THEN BACK IT UP THEN HOW ARE YOU MAKING THE ASSUMPTIONS IN THE FIRST PLACE,sorry for the capitals, but I thought it may help get the message across, are you saying you cannot bring to mind anything he has said that you can back up at all with undisputable facts that were wrong,if that is the case then what on earth are you saying anything as to his integrity at all for then.I repeat, I DONT NEED TO, I ahve said thta all he says about others,and yes, he says a loy about them all, is true, he only says what he sees and hears hinslef, he makes no assumptions of what others may say about someone, he simply states his view, what he has seen and what he has heard and all of it is true, all the programming is testament to that.Since you made the comment he did otherwise then you need to prove that is so, if you cannot, and you dont even have an ainstance to recall easlily from past or recent memory then for goodness sake how can your argument have any creedence whatsoever.
Facts are facts,I state that I know from all the programming I ahve seen, whether live feed, E4 or Channel 4 highlights that he has never done that, he says a lot about people but its all true that he says.whether its nice or not is immaterial as long as its true,now you, from that same source I and everyone else has cannot legitimately name a single instance, I think in anyones book, that m
makes me right and you at the very least dubious in your criticism og Ben with no examples. I actually find it sad that people attack someone who only tells the truth, even though they may not like what he says, but, that doesn't negate his integrity,far from it. It does however show greatly unjustified and downright wrong is the criticism as to his honesty by people who just dont care for Ben throw at him with no substance to their argument or criticism at all.

[WOMBAI]

30STONE, IF YOU CANNOT NAME AN INSTANCE AND THEN BACK IT UP THEN HOW ARE YOU MAKING THE ASSUMPTIONS IN THE FIRST PLACE,sorry for the capitals, but I thought it may help get the message across, are you saying you cannot bring to mind anything he has said that you can back up at all with undisputable facts that were wrong,if that is the case then what on earth are you saying anything as to his integrity at all for then.I repeat, I DONT NEED TO, I ahve said thta all he says about others,and yes, he says a loy about them all, is true, he only says what he sees and hears hinslef, he makes no assumptions of what others may say about someone, he simply states his view, what he has seen and what he has heard and all of it is true, all the programming is testament to that.Since you made the comment he did otherwise then you need to prove that is so, if you cannot, and you dont even have an ainstance to recall easlily from past or recent memory then for goodness sake how can your argument have any creedence whatsoever.
Facts are facts,I state that I know from all the programming I ahve seen, whether live feed, E4 or Channel 4 highlights that he has never done that, he says a lot about people but its all true that he says.whether its nice or not is immaterial as long as its true,now you, from that same source I and everyone else has cannot legitimately name a single instance, I think in anyones book, that m
makes me right and you at the very least dubious in your criticism og Ben with no examples. I actually find it sad that people attack someone who only tells the truth, even though they may not like what he says, but, that doesn't negate his integrity,far from it. It does however show greatly unjustified and downright wrong is the criticism as to his honesty by people who just dont care for Ben throw at him with no substance to their argument or criticism at all.

Sorry - but that is practically unreadable, can't be bothered. It would help a lot if you put in some paragraphs and broke it up a bit. Smaller sentences as well.

[Kazanne]

If he had any bottle at all he would tell them to their faces instead of telling them all he loves them then scurrying off to the nest and doing it behind their backs like a gossiping old woman.

How can he tell them to their faces ,when their faces are buried in the duvet all the time:joker::joker::joker:he was only joking anyway people need to get a sense of humour afterall much has been said about ben behind his back from them two,Some minds are like concrete, thoroughly mixed up and permanently set

[Twiggy]

I wish they would play his bitching sessions to the others one day... Ok, that would take days, but well worth itWhen Ben says anything about anyone, it is NOT bitching but merely stating facts and complaining about them. I don't think I have ever seen him complain about anyone who hasn't been nasty to him in one way or another.

[Angus]

If Bens evicted this week his fans have no one to blame but themselves :)

How's that when it won't be US voting to evict him?:laugh:

[Kazanne]

When Ben says anything about anyone, it is NOT bitching but merely stating facts and complaining about them. I don't think I have ever seen him complain about anyone who hasn't been nasty to him in one way or another.

That is a fact,but will be totally ignored as some people don't like to be reasonable on here:xyxwave:

[Beastie]

He called Josie a pig and John James a piglet ..

:laugh2:

What a legend!!

[Angus]

People are saying bens got more bottle than anyone.

Its not about the others bitching to, if ben has the most bottle he wouldnt bitch.

I haven't said he's got MORE bottle, I'm saying he has as much right as they do to bitch about nasty little gits who are using him as a punchbag in the house. I think he's quite restrained, I would have thumped some of them by now. He speaks the truth, so get over it.

[Kazanne]

30STONE, IF YOU CANNOT NAME AN INSTANCE AND THEN BACK IT UP THEN HOW ARE YOU MAKING THE ASSUMPTIONS IN THE FIRST PLACE,sorry for the capitals, but I thought it may help get the message across, are you saying you cannot bring to mind anything he has said that you can back up at all with undisputable facts that were wrong,if that is the case then what on earth are you saying anything as to his integrity at all for then.I repeat, I DONT NEED TO, I ahve said thta all he says about others,and yes, he says a loy about them all, is true, he only says what he sees and hears hinslef, he makes no assumptions of what others may say about someone, he simply states his view, what he has seen and what he has heard and all of it is true, all the programming is testament to that.Since you made the comment he did otherwise then you need to prove that is so, if you cannot, and you dont even have an ainstance to recall easlily from past or recent memory then for goodness sake how can your argument have any creedence whatsoever.
Facts are facts,I state that I know from all the programming I ahve seen, whether live feed, E4 or Channel 4 highlights that he has never done that, he says a lot about people but its all true that he says.whether its nice or not is immaterial as long as its true,now you, from that same source I and everyone else has cannot legitimately name a single instance, I think in anyones book, that m
makes me right and you at the very least dubious in your criticism og Ben with no examples. I actually find it sad that people attack someone who only tells the truth, even though they may not like what he says, but, that doesn't negate his integrity,far from it. It does however show greatly unjustified and downright wrong is the criticism as to his honesty by people who just dont care for Ben throw at him with no substance to their argument or criticism at all.

Great post Joey and you will find people are fond enough of posting that Ben is 'bitching' but can never back it up,I'm sure they think if they keep repeating the same old thing it will become fact,the instances i've seen of him talking is when someone has had a go at him or he is making observations about house mates,the only one i heard him say anything derogotary about was mario,and imo mario thoughoughly deserves it ,some of the things he has said about Ben have been disgusting,but you are wasting your time I doubt many can be bothered to read facts.

[Tom4784]

The public are idiots if they vote out Ben over Dave, that's what's killed each series of BB in the end. It's viewers are so short sighted they'll vote on impulse, neuter the series and then have the cheek to complain that it's boring.

[WOMBAI]

JJ should go, if not Andrew!

[stonedape]

The public are idiots if they vote out Ben over Dave, that's what's killed each series of BB in the end. It's viewers are so short sighted they'll vote on impulse, neuter the series and then have the cheek to complain that it's boring.

They see evictions as moral judgment time and entertainment value isn't considered until the evictions over. Most frustrating part of watching BB, every year.

[alc09]

He also called Mario a competitive little creep.
Couldn't have put it better myself - that really is spot on.

[Kazanne]

They see evictions as moral judgment time and entertainment value isn't considered until the evictions over. Most frustrating part of watching BB, every year.

They did it with freddie and will do it with ben,why do people want to watch boring people?

[Josy]

How's that when it won't be US voting to evict him?:laugh:

I'm sure you can work it out............

[paper-cut-exit]

why do people want to watch boring people?

They don't - that's why a lot of people will be voting for Ben.

[stonedape]

Ok you little ****s, you can complain all day about how mean it is Ben bitches, or what an awful person he is, etc. with no response from me.

But this re-writing of history where Ben wasnt the only character keeping the show alive for the first half of the series, where he's now "boring", is ridiculous. If Ben is boring, his fellow HMs are comatose.

Say what you actually think: Ben pisses you off. And there's nothing boring about that.

[joeysteele]

Well Kazanne at laest 30stone has gone quiet,I know we waste out time but I don't mind for Ben,I hate all forms of discrimination and thta is waht is really behind the snide comments etc, they think BEN is posh, while I wouldn't deny he is likely comfortable,the way he speaks is no indication that he is a posh toff,it merely demonstrates he is educated and articulate.I have friends like Ben and I feel sure that Ben to his friends and those he gets close to is one of the most loyal and trustworthy guys any of them could have as part of their lives.

[eye sea]

I'm sure it'll be Dave going, especially if he goes into full on god mode again.

Yeah Dave should go. He's past his sell by date.

[Kazanne]

Well Kazanne at laest 30stone has gone quiet,I know we waste out time but I don't mind for Ben,I hate all forms of discrimination and thta is waht is really behind the snide comments etc, they think BEN is posh, while I wouldn't deny he is likely comfortable,the way he speaks is no indication that he is a posh toff,it merely demonstrates he is educated and articulate.I have friends like Ben and I feel sure that Ben to his friends and those he gets close to is one of the most loyal and trustworthy guys any of them could have as part of their lives.

Well when you get a thread with a title like this one,you have to wonder if it IS the john and Josie show,so who cares who slagged who off,it happens everyday with us all,and if it costs Ben going this week so be it at least he is honest and will stay true to his morals and walk out with his head held high,the bloke can't even have a joke now without people pulling him apart and of course deep down it IS because he is posh,they just can't admit it as ben has done nothing worse than(infact less)the others,so it HAS to be his background,it's not rocket science is it?:xyxwave: