Josie---Why the dislike/hatred

[angiec]

Just wondering why the dislike.

When I was younger and really liked a guy I wanted to spend all my time with them, even going as far as to miss my grans birthday when i was 16, this did not make me EVIL or anything else, it made me a girl who really liked someone and wanted to spend all my time with them,

It is boring seeing them under the duvet but isn't that normal behaviour, meaning wanting to spend all her time with someone she really likes, AND she does like him.

Maybe because its on tv we are all suddenly critics but if it were ourselves or a friend would we still judge if they wanted to spend all the time with someone they liked.

As for Andrew she was just being herself and Andrew has admited that she has built his confidence but he knows nothing is going to happen so what is bad here,

Before anyone says yes but I was 16 at 28 when I met my hubby all I wanted to do was spend all my time with him as well,

It changes after 12 years of course but can still remember those days were it felt exciting etc.

This is not a post for an argument just a civil debate please:wavey:

[oddballmisfitsFTW]

Just wondering why the dislike.

When I was younger and really liked a guy I wanted to spend all my time with them, even going as far as to miss my grans birthday when i was 16, this did not make me EVIL or anything else, it made me a girl who really liked someone and wanted to spend all my time with them,

It is boring seeing them under the duvet but isn't that normal behaviour, meaning wanting to spend all her time with someone she really likes, AND she does like him.

Maybe because its on tv we are all suddenly critics but if it were ourselves or a friend would we still judge if they wanted to spend all the time with someone they liked.

As for Andrew she was just being herself and Andrew has admited that she has built his confidence but he knows nothing is going to happen so what is bad here,

Before anyone says yes but I was 16 at 28 when I met my hubby all I wanted to do was spend all my time with him as well,

It changes after 12 years of course but can still remember those days were it felt exciting etc.

This is not a post for an argument just a civil debate please:wavey:


10 things I hate about Josie

1. she is a bitch

2. she plays up to the cameras all the time

3. she is selfish

4. she **** stirs then takes backseat

5. she is lazy slob

6. she has an annoying voice

7. she is bunny boiler

8. she is stone-faced and ugly

9. she has ZERO feminine charm

10. she is VERY VERY DULL to watch

[Jase.]

10 things I hate about Josie

1. she is a bitch

2. she plays up to the cameras all the time

3. she is selfish

4. she **** stirs then takes backseat

5. she is lazy slob

6. she has an annoying voice

7. she is bunny boiler

8. she is stone-faced and ugly

9. she has ZERO feminine charm

10. she is VERY VERY DULL to watch

Preach. Mother****ing PREACH!

[Fetch The Bolt Cutters]

she bores the crabs off me tbh

[angiec]

OK did say this was a debate not a list of things you THINK you know about her,

Yeah she got jealous Iv done that but it doesn't make me a bunny boiler and neither is she, think about it, if she was he would not be allowed to speak to anyone at all.

She thought Caiomhe was her friend and she got jelouse of running round after him when she was drunk in a see through shirt, also how close they got, again this is not a bunny boiler, it is normal behaviour in some.

The rest of the list is just silly

[Ginjaninja]

OK did say this was a debate not a list of things you THINK you know about her,

Yeah she got jealous Iv done that but it doesn't make me a bunny boiler and neither is she, think about it, if she was he would not be allowed to speak to anyone at all.

She thought Caiomhe was her friend and she got jelouse of running round after him when she was drunk in a see through shirt, also how close they got, again this is not a bunny boiler, it is normal behaviour in some.

The rest of the list is just silly
Why you ask are you John James ex??? The girl has gone weird since she has got the tossa nod from John James the guy is a dick.. I don't blame her. But I think if she shagged him once anyway she'd think my god what was I even bothered about I've had bigger pubes.... :joker:

[fitz2k2]

Also at her age she shouldn't be sucking her thumb!! no wonder she is single. Im suprise no one said anything the only person that did is Sam. Sam to win!!!

[Mr Neutral]

Get Josie OUT!

[jj43]

Im not a big Josie fan and she does herself no justice by constantly sucking that thumb. She needs to find some maturity after all she is 25 and a grown woman.

[JTM45]

Yeah, the pathetic thumb-sucking sends my dislike into overdrive!
They should put her and Corin in a cage of starving Tigers and be done with it !!!!:hugesmile:

[taraibiza]

She is a manipulative bitch. She told Andrew to pretend to John James that there were banners outside (when he did his singing task with Corin) calling him Crab Eyes.

She is cold hearted and cruel when John James is upset and wants to talk, all she cared about when he busted out of the fire escape is that he was showing her up!

She's turned into this clingy, annoying, possessive dick and I really hope she gets kicked out to a crescendo of boos next week. BITCH!

[as90]

Cliquey, immature, leads people on, slob.

[smudgie]

She is 25 not some young 16 year old. I can understand it when a young inexperienced youth has a crush and goes gaga, look at Andrew for instance,bless him. But Josie is old enough to know better. I am not sure if half of it is indeed for a showmance.
It is a shame because she started off so well, full of fun with great humour. Now she is getting more boring by the day.:sleep:

[WOMBAI]

Just wondering why the dislike.

When I was younger and really liked a guy I wanted to spend all my time with them, even going as far as to miss my grans birthday when i was 16, this did not make me EVIL or anything else, it made me a girl who really liked someone and wanted to spend all my time with them,

It is boring seeing them under the duvet but isn't that normal behaviour, meaning wanting to spend all her time with someone she really likes, AND she does like him.

Maybe because its on tv we are all suddenly critics but if it were ourselves or a friend would we still judge if they wanted to spend all the time with someone they liked.

As for Andrew she was just being herself and Andrew has admited that she has built his confidence but he knows nothing is going to happen so what is bad here,

Before anyone says yes but I was 16 at 28 when I met my hubby all I wanted to do was spend all my time with him as well,

It changes after 12 years of course but can still remember those days were it felt exciting etc.

This is not a post for an argument just a civil debate please:wavey:

Firstly - she isn't 16 - she is a worldly wise grown woman!

You saying she likes him - isn't fact, just opinion - many of us disagree!

She has been extremely bitchy and put a lot of pressure on JJ to like her back! All makes for uncomfortable viewing! You are entitled to your OPINION - as we are to ours!

[KERRYJ]

even at 25 if you like someone its hard enough if you are not sure how they feel about you throw in the fact they are in the big brother house and that adds another element to the whole thing. I like Josie even without the whole John James story and anyone who says she is not pretty take a look at this photo




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[WOMBAI]

even at 25 if you like someone its hard enough if you are not sure how they feel about you throw in the fact they are in the big brother house and that adds another element to the whole thing. I like Josie even without the whole John James story and anyone who says she is not pretty take a look at this photo




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She would be prettier if she took more care of herself, stopped being so lazy and lost a bit of weight!

But her looks are not the real issue - it is her personality! Everyone with a brain knows that 'romances' in the big brother house get lots of airtime and are popular with the public.

It is no coincidence that she showed such an interest in him from day one! She homed in on the only good-looking one and went for it with everything she had! Even the fact he didn't feel the same way - didn't deter her! She wanted the publicity, so conveniently ignored that - and reeled him in!

He isn't the most stable of characters and was an easy target! He likes her company, especially in such an enclosed, limited environment - and doesn't want to upset her - it has all played very conveniently into her hands!

She is a master manipulator and a bitch!

[Talulabelle]

OK did say this was a debate not a list of things you THINK you know about her ....

She thought Caiomhe was her friend and she got jelouse of running round after him when she was drunk in a see through shirt ....... it is normal behaviour in some.


Yes, yes it is normal behaviour ... IN BUNNY BOILERS!

[Stacey.]

She ****s me off so much.. hate her the most in there.

She's so on/off with John.. anything he says that she doesn't want to hear, and she'll go off in a mood for the next 2 hours and bitch about him to someone. She leads Andrew on constantly, especially when she's had a bit of a falling out with John just to make her feel better or something. Gets jealous over any other girl being with John, also her thinking he actually fancies her LOL!

[charmingmissc]

She would be prettier if she took more care of herself, stopped being so lazy and lost a bit of weight!

But her looks are not the real issue - it is her personality! Everyone with a brain knows that 'romances' in the big brother house get lots of airtime and are popular with the public.

It is no coincidence that she showed such an interest in him from day one! She homed in on the only good-looking one and went for it with everything she had! Even the fact he didn't feel the same way - didn't deter her! She wanted the publicity, so conveniently ignored that - and reeled him in!

He isn't the most stable of characters and was an easy target! He likes her company, especially in such an enclosed, limited environment - and doesn't want to upset her - it has all played very conveniently into her hands!



She is a master manipulator and a bitch!


:shocked: :spin::joker:

[WOMBAI]

:shocked: :spin::joker:

None so blind as those that will not see! :nono::joker:

[charmingmissc]

None so blind as those that will not see! :nono::joker:

are you including yourself in that statement?

[WOMBAI]

are you including yourself in that statement?

I see her for the manipulator she is - you refuse to! So is obvious who is blind! :joker:

[charmingmissc]

I see her for the manipulator she is - you refuse to! So is obvious who is blind! :joker:

pot / kettle.

we will never agree on this issue, only time will tell.

[WOMBAI]

pot / kettle.

we will never agree on this issue, only time will tell.

Indeed!

[Peter Plunker]

10 things I hate about Josie

1. she is a bitch

2. she plays up to the cameras all the time

3. she is selfish

4. she **** stirs then takes backseat

5. she is lazy slob

6. she has an annoying voice

7. she is bunny boiler

8. she is stone-faced and ugly

9. she has ZERO feminine charm

10. she is VERY VERY DULL to watch


I'd have just said she's a rancid hippocrocapig but you put it much better.

[Forever_Young]

even at 25 if you like someone its hard enough if you are not sure how they feel about you throw in the fact they are in the big brother house and that adds another element to the whole thing. I like Josie even without the whole John James story and anyone who says she is not pretty take a look at this photo




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I agree, in my opinion its obvious that the two really genuinely like each other, and the fact that they are in the big brother house yes it makes it an unnatural environment, with heightened emotions etc. Ok she has maybe taken her insecurities slightly too far at times but she admits that herself, I honestly feel she has been let down in the past and at times shes just been putting up a bit of a guard in order to not get hurt.

Regardless of the whole john james story I do find her to be a really interesting and funny woman (the thumb sucking does annoy me but we all have bad habbits!) I also think she is very attractive and all the fat, ogre, pig etc comments on here are quite immature and saddening. You can express that you dont like her looks without all that.

Yes everyones entitiled to their opinion but I agree with the original poster that the hatred is a bit too far, come on its a tv show!! I am certainly sticking by her, she makes me laugh so much!!

[WOMBAI]

I agree, in my opinion its obvious that the two really genuinely like each other, and the fact that they are in the big brother house yes it makes it an unnatural environment, with heightened emotions etc. Ok she has maybe taken her insecurities slightly too far at times but she admits that herself, I honestly feel she has been let down in the past and at times shes just been putting up a bit of a guard in order to not get hurt.

Regardless of the whole john james story I do find her to be a really interesting and funny woman (the thumb sucking does annoy me but we all have bad habbits!) I also think she is very attractive and all the fat, ogre, pig etc comments on here are quite immature and saddening. You can express that you dont like her looks without all that.

Yes everyones entitiled to their opinion but I agree with the original poster that the hatred is a bit too far, come on its a tv show!! I am certainly sticking by her, she makes me laugh so much!!

Like each other, yes - but love/romance - different story!

And thumbsucking at the age of 25 is more than a bad habit - especially on public tv! Either attention seeking or a sign of someone who is emotionally immature and insecure!

I don't care about her looks - that is not the issue - it is the way she is manipulating their relationship for airtime - and increasing her chance of walking away with the 100K - that is what annoys me!

[Jedward]

She ****s me off so much.. hate her the most in there.

She's so on/off with John.. anything he says that she doesn't want to hear, and she'll go off in a mood for the next 2 hours and bitch about him to someone. She leads Andrew on constantly, especially when she's had a bit of a falling out with John just to make her feel better or something. Gets jealous over any other girl being with John, also her thinking he actually fancies her LOL! this... xxxxx

[housemate]

Like each other, yes - but love/romance - different story!

And thumbsucking at the age of 25 is more than a bad habit - especially on public tv! Either attention seeking or a sign of someone who is emotionally immature and insecure!

I don't care about her looks - that is not the issue - it is the way she is manipulating their relationship for airtime - and increasing her chance of walking away with the 100K - that is what annoys me!

Wow!! Manipulating thir relationship? How do you know this for sure? I think she's 100 petcent in Love with him, its a shame people assume that shes being false without providing proof!

[Forever_Young]

Like each other, yes - but love/romance - different story!

And thumbsucking at the age of 25 is more than a bad habit - especially on public tv! Either attention seeking or a sign of someone who is emotionally immature and insecure!

I don't care about her looks - that is not the issue - it is the way she is manipulating their relationship for airtime - and increasing her chance of walking away with the 100K - that is what annoys me!

Im not saying that they will be together forever or anything..reality is it WILL be different when they get out, it might not work. but I still believe that they do care about each other in a loving way and enjoy spending time with each other, I honestly dont think its for the cameras, you cant fake the way they are with each other (I beleive).

The thumbsucking, yes it could well be a sign that she is insecure as she has shown signs of this but at the end of the day I dont think shes doing it deliberately for attention, and it doesnt make me think any less of her as a person.

Fair enough you dont care about her looks, but there are some immature people on here that feel the need to go on about her weight, etc.
I dont think shes doing any manipulating but guess we will have to agree to disagree on this one! :)

[BBfan46]

Josie will win, mark my words. That same pigeon told me.

[pixee]

I thought people liked her lol.

I went off her when she began to cling to JJ like a Koala bear. Same as when mario just followed ben around, they lose their personality.

[WOMBAI]

Josie will win, mark my words. That same pigeon told me.

I don't think she will - too many people have opened their eyes - but, if she does, it will be a farce, with a helping hand from bb - who like their romances to increase viewers! It will be a fake win - like everything else fake about her!

[BBfan46]

I don't think she will - too many people have opened their eyes - but, if she does, it will be a farce, with a helping hand from bb - who like their romances to increase viewers! It will be a fake win - like everything else fake about her!

:dance: Josie Gibson ♥

[BBfan46]

10 things I hate about Josie

1. she is a bitch

2. she plays up to the cameras all the time

3. she is selfish

4. she **** stirs then takes backseat

5. she is lazy slob

6. she has an annoying voice

7. she is bunny boiler

8. she is stone-faced and ugly

9. she has ZERO feminine charm

10. she is VERY VERY DULL to watch

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[housemate]

She would be prettier if she took more care of herself, stopped being so lazy and lost a bit of weight!

But her looks are not the real issue - it is her personality! Everyone with a brain knows that 'romances' in the big brother house get lots of airtime and are popular with the public.

It is no coincidence that she showed such an interest in him from day one! She homed in on the only good-looking one and went for it with everything she had! Even the fact he didn't feel the same way - didn't deter her! She wanted the publicity, so conveniently ignored that - and reeled him in!

He isn't the most stable of characters and was an easy target! He likes her company, especially in such an enclosed, limited environment - and doesn't want to upset her - it has all played very conveniently into her hands!

She is a master manipulator and a bitch!

I think she's soooooooooo pretty and who are you to make nasty comments about he weight? She does alot of the cooking so I don't understand why you think she's lazy? Its only your opinion of her with regard her romance with JJ, you can offer no proof that she doesn't Love him:elephant:

[WOMBAI]

I think she's soooooooooo pretty and who are you to make nasty comments about he weight? She does alot of the cooking so I don't understand why you think she's lazy? Its only your opinion of her with regard her romance with JJ, you can offer no proof that she doesn't Love him:elephant:

I didn't say she wasn't pretty - but that she would be prettier if she lost a bit of weight! The weight detracts from her looks! They weren't nasty comments - just facts! If she wants to attract the good-looking guys like JJ, then she has to be realistic - and make more effort to lose a bit of weight - no great mystery!

And she is lazy - I have eyes - even the hms now comment about it! She spends most of her time lying in bed - when that is the last thing someone with weight problems should do! She is half-hearted in the tasks, making no real effort. So she cooks a bit - I should hope so - she needs to do something other than fawn over JJ to win that 100k!

[Julie10]

even at 25 if you like someone its hard enough if you are not sure how they feel about you throw in the fact they are in the big brother house and that adds another element to the whole thing. I like Josie even without the whole John James story and anyone who says she is not pretty take a look at this photo




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He told her several times he didn't feel for her the way she did for him but she didn't want to hear that.

Big bunny boiler in over drive. Sick of seeing her clinging to him and humping him like a dog in season trying to get airtime. Very sad and awful to watch.

[Julie10]

She would be prettier if she took more care of herself, stopped being so lazy and lost a bit of weight!

But her looks are not the real issue - it is her personality! Everyone with a brain knows that 'romances' in the big brother house get lots of airtime and are popular with the public.

It is no coincidence that she showed such an interest in him from day one! She homed in on the only good-looking one and went for it with everything she had! Even the fact he didn't feel the same way - didn't deter her! She wanted the publicity, so conveniently ignored that - and reeled him in!

He isn't the most stable of characters and was an easy target! He likes her company, especially in such an enclosed, limited environment - and doesn't want to upset her - it has all played very conveniently into her hands!

She is a master manipulator and a bitch!



Have to agree with this.

[housemate]

I didn't say she wasn't pretty - but that she would be prettier if she lost a bit of weight! The weight detracts from her looks! They weren't nasty comments - just facts! If she wants to attract the good-looking guys like JJ, then she has to be realistic - and make more effort to lose a bit of weight - no great mystery!

And she is lazy - I have eyes - even the hms now comment about it! She spends most of her time lying in bed - when that is the last thing someone with weight problems should do! She is half-hearted in the tasks, making no real effort. So she cooks a bit - I should hope so - she needs to do something other than fawn over JJ to win that 100k!

Blimey!! I thought we lived in a more tolerant, less judgemental society now!
Your saying that in order to be attractive she needs to lose weight? That all men will only go for the skinny gals, regardless of personality, kindness or emotion? WOW!!

Josie brings smiles to the house, she is loved by all of them, Dave even said he loved her .. I havent witnessed anybody making comments about her .. I think you've made that up to sway good opinion of her because you clearly don't like her.
As far as the tasks are concerned, she tries really hard ... what are you on about?
She cleans the bathroom, washes the dishes, tidies the garden AND cooks, what more do you want:elephant:

[Stacey.]

Josie will win, mark my words. That same pigeon told me.

That same one that told you Sunshine would win?

[troy4783]

Just wondering why the dislike.

When I was younger and really liked a guy I wanted to spend all my time with them, even going as far as to miss my grans birthday when i was 16, this did not make me EVIL or anything else, it made me a girl who really liked someone and wanted to spend all my time with them,

It is boring seeing them under the duvet but isn't that normal behaviour, meaning wanting to spend all her time with someone she really likes, AND she does like him.

Maybe because its on tv we are all suddenly critics but if it were ourselves or a friend would we still judge if they wanted to spend all the time with someone they liked.

As for Andrew she was just being herself and Andrew has admited that she has built his confidence but he knows nothing is going to happen so what is bad here,

Before anyone says yes but I was 16 at 28 when I met my hubby all I wanted to do was spend all my time with him as well,

It changes after 12 years of course but can still remember those days were it felt exciting etc.

This is not a post for an argument just a civil debate please:wavey:well said :spin:

[WOMBAI]

Blimey!! I thought we lived in a more tolerant, less judgemental society now!
Your saying that in order to be attractive she needs to lose weight? That all men will only go for the skinny gals, regardless of personality, kindness or emotion? WOW!!

Josie brings smiles to the house, she is loved by all of them, Dave even said he loved her .. I havent witnessed anybody making comments about her .. I think you've made that up to sway good opinion of her because you clearly don't like her.
As far as the tasks are concerned, she tries really hard ... what are you on about?
She cleans the bathroom, washes the dishes, tidies the garden AND cooks, what more do you want:elephant:

Are you at all perceptive and realistic about life!

I am saying if Josie is so shallow and judges the men in her life by their looks (as she clearly does by her comments about his looks and the way she homed in on him from the start) then she has to be realistic enough to realise that they will probably judge her the same way - and will be put off by her weight! Fact of life - so get off your unrealistic high horse!

btw - do you actually watch the show - several hms have made comments about her and JJ lying in bed all day!

[housemate]

Are you at all perceptive and realistic about life!

I am saying if Josie is so shallow and judges the men in her life by their looks (as she clearly does by her comments about his looks and the way she homed in on him from the start) then she has to be realistic enough to realise that they will probably judge her the same way - and will be put off by her weight! Fact of life - so get off your unrealistic high horse!

btw - do you actually watch the show - several hms have made comments about her and JJ lying in bed all day!

So how come JJ thinks the World of her AS she is? He is repulsed by comments about appearance!
What 'men in her life'? Do you know what her type is? Heres another fact of life for you, ..it takes allsorts, people like You judge her ... other People 'probably' don't, certainly not on the basis of her weight or perceived motives.
btw - other HMs JOKE about the bed-in! They all Love her to bits! I clealy listend (and watched) more closely .. with an unbiased heart.

[WOMBAI]

So how come JJ thinks the World of her AS she is? He is repulsed by comments about appearance!
What 'men in her life'? Do you know what her type is? Heres another fact of life for you, ..it takes allsorts, people like You judge her ... other People 'probably' don't, certainly not on the basis of her weight or perceived motives.
btw - other HMs JOKE about the bed-in! They all Love her to bits! I clealy listend (and watched) more closely .. with an unbiased heart.

He may like her a lot - that is not the same thing! No one likes to see their friends being insulted - quite understandable! But he does not fancy her - that is soooo obvious - wait and see!

Josie has double-standards - she wants the 'fit' ones - but doesn't want them to judge her in the same way! And you support that? :rolleyes:

[yellowzebra8]

OK did say this was a debate not a list of things you THINK you know about her,

Yeah she got jealous Iv done that but it doesn't make me a bunny boiler and neither is she, think about it, if she was he would not be allowed to speak to anyone at all.

She thought Caiomhe was her friend and she got jelouse of running round after him when she was drunk in a see through shirt, also how close they got, again this is not a bunny boiler, it is normal behaviour in some.

The rest of the list is just silly

You're so right, the hate is just because she was the favourite to win, so some of the fans of all the other HM's try and turn people against her so their fave is more likely to win.
It happened to Kathreya, It happened to Freddie and its happening to Josie... I wouldn't be surprised if people start hating on Corin now.

[housemate]

He may like her a lot - that is not the same thing! No one likes to see their friends being insulted - quite understandable! But he does not fancy her - that is soooo obvious - wait and see!

Josie has double-standards - she wants the 'fit' ones - but doesn't want them to judge her in the same way! And you support that? :rolleyes:

I support the fact that you hate Josie and will fit a theory to any fact in order to blacken her as much as possible. Josie loves Andrew too, how does that fit in with your theory re: 'wanting the 'fit' ones'? You make no sense atall.
JJ doesn't judge people on appearance because he was bullied as a child, he more than 'likes' her and she is like a love sick puppy, she adores him!:elephant:

[WOMBAI]

You're so right, the hate is just because she was the favourite to win, so some of the fans of all the other HM's try and turn people against her so their fave is more likely to win.
It happened to Kathreya, It happened to Freddie and its happening to Josie... I wouldn't be surprised if people start hating on Corin now.

Some might be hate - the rest is pure logic and commonsense!

Josie is manipulating the relationship for airtime and votes - clear as crystal!

[housemate]

Some might be hate - the rest is pure logic and commonsense!

Josie is manipulating the relationship for airtime and votes - clear as crystal!

Yours is clearly based on hate! Whose common sense and logic ... yours? You asume she is being false in a bid to win and so its suddenly supposed to be crystal clear?
Are you for real ?:elephant:

[WOMBAI]

Yours is clearly based on hate! Whose common sense and logic ... yours? You asume she is being false in a bid to win and so its suddenly supposed to be crystal clear?
Are you for real ?:elephant:

I assume nothing - it is obvious - the way she homed in on JJ right from day one harping on about his good looks!

As we all know that 'romance', fake or otherwise - get lots of attention on bb -commonsense dictates it was a lot more than coincidence that she 'fell' for him almost immediately!

[yellowzebra8]

Some might be hate - the rest is pure logic and commonsense!

Josie is manipulating the relationship for airtime and votes - clear as crystal!

Isn't that the bloody point of Big Brother!!!
I wish people would begin to udnerstand that its a gameshow, and people that play the game do not deserve to be hated!!!! I wish UK BB was more like American BB because over there they ALL play to win and manipulate and its great TV! PLUS THEY AREN'T HATED FOR IT!!!
Over here, people are way too judgemental and full of hate. The people who are entertaining get voted out early on and the boring ones win. Then people complain the show is boring.
It's this kind of hate that has killed off Big Brother. It's such a shame as it was such a good show.

[WOMBAI]

]]Isn't that the bloody point of Big Brother!!![/B]I wish people would begin to udnerstand that its a gameshow, and people that play the game do not deserve to be hated!!!! [/B]I wish UK BB was more like American BB because over there they ALL play to win and manipulate and its great TV! PLUS THEY AREN'T HATED FOR IT!!!
Over here, people are way too judgemental and full of hate. The people who are entertaining get voted out early on and the boring ones win. Then people complain the show is boring.
It's this kind of hate that has killed off Big Brother. It's such a shame as it was such a good show.

Yes - but it is the way she does it that is abhorent! If people want to resort to gameplans, not reprehensible in themselves, fine, but it is how they choose to do it that counts! They should be using their wit and personality to earn their money, so to speak, not resorting to the easy option of having a faux romance - in my book that is tantamount to prostituting yourself!

I have been very disappointed in Josie - when she first came in she seemed the sort of sensible, down to earth type that wouldn't resort to that sort of nonsense - but that was certainly not the case! She went in for the kill - made her claim early on in the game, so that others kept their mits off JJ - and ensured herself plenty of airtime! Just so obvious, it is embarrassing! She seemed to have more potential than that - but, as it turned out, did not!

[housemate]

I assume nothing - it is obvious - the way she homed in on JJ right from day one harping on about his good looks!

As we all know that 'romance', fake or otherwise - get lots of attention on bb -commonsense dictates it was a lot more than coincidence that she 'fell' for him almost immediately!

Suposition and conjecture and opinion! She was supposed to fancy him like mad but keet it to herself? SHE DID for ages but then he fell for her too.
Accept that its your slant on her character which has resulted from the fact that yo just don't like her, commonsense dictates etc... my foot!:elephant:

[WOMBAI]

Suposition and conjecture and opinion! She was supposed to fancy him like mad but keet it to herself? SHE DID for ages but then he fell for her too.
Accept that its your slant on her character which has resulted from the fact that yo just don't like her, commonsense dictates etc... my foot!:elephant:

You know nothing! Firstly it was certainly not ages - it was the first week or two!

Secondly - I liked her to start off with - it was the way she homed in on the 'have a romance' easy option that put me right off her! I thought she might actually be the type to have an interesting personaltiy - boy did she disappoint on that one - all she ever talks about is JJ and how much does he fancy her - boring as *uck!

She bores, disappoints and pretty much disgusts me now - with her pitiful silly romantic head - not the interesting, intelligent one many of us hoped for!

[stewart64]

I feel uncomfortable about her character. She is sometimes smiling but her eyes tell a different story and have a bored glaze.

I prefer housemates that are 100% genuine....CORIN !!!!

[housemate]

Yes - but it is the way she does it that is abhorent! If people want to resort to gameplans, not reprehensible in themselves, fine, but it is how they choose to do it that counts! They should be using their wit and personality to earn their money, so to speak, not resorting to the easy option of having a faux romance - in my book that is tantamount to prostituting yourself!

I have been very disappointed in Josie - when she first came in she seemed the sort of sensible, down to earth type that wouldn't resort to that sort of nonsense - but that was certainly not the case! She went in for the kill - made her claim early on in the game, so that others kept their mits off JJ - and ensured herself plenty of airtime! Just so obvious, it is embarrassing! She seemed to have more potential than that - but, as it turned out, did not!

So how is any of this rant, born of a biased hatred fair? I've read other posts of yours where you castigate people for making comments based on their asessments of HMs (who you favour)and yet heres someone YOU hate and suddenly its ok to do just that ! You did this on a thread of mine recently, one where I was truely trying to understand one of the HMs character. You persistantly interferred with constant demands for proof of bad motive, said that it was unfair to assume etc ....
you are a hypocrite!:elephant:

[WOMBAI]

So how is any of this rant, born of a biased hatred fair? I've read other posts of yours where you castigate people for making comments based on their asessments of HMs (who you favour)and yet heres someone YOU hate and suddenly its ok to do just that ! You did this on a thread of mine recently, one where I was truely trying to understand one of the HMs character. You persistantly interferred with constant demands for proof of bad motive, said that it was unfair to assume etc ....
you are a hypocrite!:elephant:

Because there is a big difference in accusing someone of being a charleton who rips people off (which is illegal and an imprisonable offence) than accusing someone of a very obvious fake romance! Get a grip - if you can't see the difference - that is your problem!

[setanta]

She is a sneaky, insecure and manipulative cow. Saw it after the first week or so and nothing has changed for me. Sure she's getting worse to be honest withy you. Just a real shame that JJ wasn't evicted last night because then Josie would have lost the plot completely.

[WOMBAI]

She is a sneaky, insecure and manipulative cow. Saw it after the first week or so and nothing has changed for me. Sure she's getting worse to be honest withy you. Just a real shame that JJ wasn't evicted last night because then Josie would have lost the plot completely.

Indeed! How many on here see exactly what is presented to them without question - despite it being obvious someone was going to play the 'romance' card - as happens every year!

People undoubtedly see what they want to see! It is a fake environment, with a lot of fake people and yet another fake romance! :sleep:

Yes, a big shame JJ didn't go - I would have liked to have seen what Josie's next move would have been!

[housemate]

Because there is a big difference in accusing someone of being a charleton who rips people off (which is illegal and an imprisonable offence) than accusing someone of a very obvious fake romance! Get a grip - if you can't see the difference - that is your problem!

No, I was trying to 'get a grip' on what was going on, you kept interjecting with (what turned out to be biased-in-favour) arguments about how you'd need proof that Dave was conning people.
My opinion of him IN the house was poor because he was being thourougly unpleasant about Ben (whilst telling Ben that he always backs him up)
Your argument was that I was being unfair to Dave, because I had the temerity to post that disgusting video of Dave in his wheelchair and naturally questioned his motives and also that you've never heard Dave backstab Ben and even if he (Dave) did, it was a matter of opinion as to wether he was being malicious
What you fail to see is that you are basing your opinions on the subjective belief that Josie is a fraud. (even according to your own argument)
My judgements were based on what I have seen and heard of Dave on screen, not imagined or subjective.:elephant:
The wheelchair video debate was never resolved for me because you (amongst others) were too hell bent on viewing the discusion as a hate campaign ... you got it wrong again!

[WOMBAI]

No, I was trying to 'get a grip' on what was going on, you kept interjecting with (what turned out to be biased-in-favour) arguments about how you'd need proof that Dave was conning people.
My opinion of him IN the house was poor because he was being thourougly unpleasant about Ben (whilst telling Ben that he always backs him up)
Your argument was that I was being unfair to Dave, because I had the temerity to post that disgusting video of Dave in his wheelchair and naturally questioned his motives and also that you've never heard Dave backstab Ben and even if he (Dave) did, it was a matter of opinion as to wether he was being malicious
What you fail to see is that you are basing your opinions on the subjective belief that Josie is a fraud. (even according to your own argument)
My judgements were based on what I have seen and heard of Dave on screen, not imagined or subjective.:elephant:
The wheelchair video debate was never resolved for me because you (amongst others) were too hell bent on viewing the discusion as a hate campaign ... you got it wrong again!

I asked you to produce proof that Dave was a conman ripping people off! You couldn't, neither could anyone else! Says it all really! Those video's proved nothing and were wide open to personal interpretation - therefore your opinons based on them were very much your intepretation and indeed very subjective!

You are entitled to your opinions on Dave as a hm, never said you weren't - but as soon as you start posting those vids - you put a different slant on things and show that you opinions are influenced by his religious views and your take on how he goes about practicing those views - therefore very biased.

So the wheelchair debate was not resolved for you - that is not the way it came across! I think you have already made your mind up regardless! I haven't got anything wrong - you just always like to be right it seems!

[housemate]

[QUOTE=WOMBAI;3589306]I asked you to produce proof that Dave was a conman ripping people off! You couldn't, neither could anyone else! Says it all really! Those video's proved nothing and were wide open to personal interpretation - therefore your opinons based on them were very much your intepretation and indeed very subjective!

You are entitled to your opinions on Dave as a hm, never said you weren't - but as soon as you start posting those vids - you put a different slant on things and show that you opinions are influenced by his religious views and your take on how he goes about practicing those views - therefore very biased.

So the wheelchair debate was not resolved for you - that is not the way it came across! I think you have already made your mind up regardless! I haven't got anything wrong - you just always like to be right it seems![/QUOTE

Thanks for allowing me an opinion Wombai Theres no point in explaining to you that are SO wrong about me, I love to be proved wrong .. take the video, had you not stormed the thread, somebody might have been able to explain what Dave was doing etc.... you (amongst others) made that impossible unfortunatly but I did follow up by researching the Emerge Wales group. I took time to have an informed opinion on Daves Mindset.
One of the threads that day however did make me doubt that Dave was a complete fraud, its a very scary thought but it COULD be possible that Dave DOES believe that he went to the Sun and gets drunk on the Glory talks to Fairies etc....
Incidentally, I don't pre-judge anybody .. EVER, I'm of the mind that I'm not that smart,:elephant:

[BBfan46]

That same one that told you Sunshine would win?

Nope, the pigeon told me that Ben would go that is all.

[WOMBAI]

[QUOTE=WOMBAI;3589306]I asked you to produce proof that Dave was a conman ripping people off! You couldn't, neither could anyone else! Says it all really! Those video's proved nothing and were wide open to personal interpretation - therefore your opinons based on them were very much your intepretation and indeed very subjective!

You are entitled to your opinions on Dave as a hm, never said you weren't - but as soon as you start posting those vids - you put a different slant on things and show that you opinions are influenced by his religious views and your take on how he goes about practicing those views - therefore very biased.

So the wheelchair debate was not resolved for you - that is not the way it came across! I think you have already made your mind up regardless! I haven't got anything wrong - you just always like to be right it seems![/QUOTE

Thanks for allowing me an opinion Wombai Theres no point in explaining to you that are SO wrong about me, I love to be proved wrong .. take the video, had you not stormed the thread, somebody might have been able to explain what Dave was doing etc.... you (amongst others) made that impossible unfortunatly but I did follow up by researching the Emerge Wales group. I took time to have an informed opinion on Daves Mindset.
One of the threads that day however did make me doubt that Dave was a complete fraud, its a very scary thought but it COULD be possible that Dave DOES believe that he went to the Sun and gets drunk on the Glory talks to Fairies etc....
Incidentally, I don't pre-judge anybody .. EVER, I'm of the mind that I'm not that smart,:elephant:

Why such inflammatory remarks as 'thanks for allowing me an opinion' - I never implied you needed my permission! :rolleyes:

Again comments such as 'storming the thread' could just as easily be applied to you, and many others! Most of the threads referring to Dave as a conman and Steve as a pervert (both of which are extremely offensive allegations) have been based on nothing but personal opinion (likes and dislikes) - and definitely without any evidence whatsoever. Understandable that people (including myself) get pretty annoyed about that!

I have accused Josie of contriving a fake romance and having a gameplan - hardly in the same league! Lets please not get things out of perspective! :rolleyes:

[KERRYJ]

wombai, who do you like in that house. You keep telling who you don't like. Tell us who is your favourite and then we will all rip into you with some mindless, relentless, drivel ridden rant and see how you like it. Your opinion it seems is the only one that counts so pray tell us all who do you like, change my opinion of you as an ignorant neandarthal who has hairy palms and likes nothing better than to spend your weekend dragging your knuckles on the ground. Its not nice is it when it gets personal and I can answer back Josie can't.

[WOMBAI]

wombai, who do you like in that house. You keep telling who you don't like. Tell us who is your favourite and then we will all rip into you with some mindless, relentless, drivel ridden rant and see how you like it. Your opinion it seems is the only one that counts so pray tell us all who do you like, change my opinion of you as an ignorant neandarthal who has hairy palms and likes nothing better than to spend your weekend dragging your knuckles on the ground. Its not nice is it when it gets personal and I can answer back Josie can't.

Feel free to answer back - just as you are doing now and many others have done - so what a ridiculous remark to make! Poor Dave and Steve can't answer back at all their haters and the OTT allegations they are making! What makes your precious Josie so different!

I have made no secret of who I like - it is all over many threads! I like Dave, Steve, Andrew, Corin and a few others! So! Say what you like - just as I will about Josie being a obvious fake! Because you don't want to hear it - it's drivel - I think not! :rolleyes:

[oddballmisfitsFTW]

OK did say this was a debate not a list of things you THINK you know about her,

Yeah she got jealous Iv done that but it doesn't make me a bunny boiler and neither is she, think about it, if she was he would not be allowed to speak to anyone at all.

She thought Caiomhe was her friend and she got jelouse of running round after him when she was drunk in a see through shirt, also how close they got, again this is not a bunny boiler, it is normal behaviour in some.

The rest of the list is just silly


amazingly I forgot

11. sucks her thumb. 25 sucks her thumb. earlier in show said JJ reminds her of a little 11yo brother. sucks her thumb 25 she fancies the arse off him wants his LITTLE willy sucks her thumb she wants John James cos she sees him as 11yo little brother
25 and sucks her thumb

PAEDO alert

JOSIE THE BUNNY BOILER AND PAEDO !!!!!!

[THE WATCHER]

Lets see why I dislike Josie, hmmm, well she is lazy, she does nothing more than eat and sleep, is arrogant thinking she and lover boy are thru to the final, long list still but thats enough for now

[Julie10]

Isn't that the bloody point of Big Brother!!!
I wish people would begin to udnerstand that its a gameshow, and people that play the game do not deserve to be hated!!!! I wish UK BB was more like American BB because over there they ALL play to win and manipulate and its great TV! PLUS THEY AREN'T HATED FOR IT!!!
Over here, people are way too judgemental and full of hate. The people who are entertaining get voted out early on and the boring ones win. Then people complain the show is boring.
It's this kind of hate that has killed off Big Brother. It's such a shame as it was such a good show.


Hate: Govan~ Ife~ Steve~ Nathan. Hypocrite !

[ashlee-s-]

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