View Full Version : Faria out of order just now! Racism enters house!
coltrane
17-01-2006, 09:36 AM
10.30 Faria discussing nominations etc said to Traci & Dennis in Living Room "Do you think forone minute they would let an asian or black person win this thing?" In this country? Oh Please.. No way..........." she's still going now!
Now is that a little bit racist Faria...naughty
:nono:
Dave
Her comments are the worst form of racism. Get her out! :nono:
coltrane
17-01-2006, 09:56 AM
Same Here!!!! well said tali!!
:shocked:
Anti Racism membership wanted plz!!!:colour:
ordinarygirl
17-01-2006, 10:00 AM
that is ridiculous did she ever think she was boring and the other two are annoying
she is totally out of order. that wont help her be safe from eviction
she may have just saved dennis by her actions!!!
yes she's the most boring of the three. My preferred choice for eviction really..
coltrane
17-01-2006, 10:27 AM
Is anyone watching E4 now? This racism thing Faria started has gone ballistic, USA v British, Black v White, arguments all over the house??
Controversial or what???:shocked::shocked::shocked:
It's pathetic! Faria has shown her real self and she is not only a racist, but a nasty person.
ordinarygirl
17-01-2006, 10:42 AM
im not watching live feed at the moment, whats happening how is everyone reacting to her accusation???:nono:
All hell has let loose. Barrymore and Rula has said it is an insult to the British Public and I agree
Sunny_01
17-01-2006, 10:50 AM
Traci - is trying to convince everyone Faria and Dennis included that THEY were the ones that said all of this and she is merely repeating it. What a stink this one has caused!
ordinarygirl
17-01-2006, 10:55 AM
what are preston and chantelle at??? what do they think of faria's outbrst?? did denis and traci agree with her?
Sunny_01
17-01-2006, 10:56 AM
Sporry when only half listening you get it wrong - so Faria and Dennis said these things and Traci couldnt keep her own water - is that right! still think it was Traci that caused the real stink by feeling the need to repeat this to the whole house.
lily.
17-01-2006, 10:58 AM
Makes a change from George pretending to be asleep so he can carry his little gossipy stories from group to group!..
i normally let these things go, but thats below the belt.
get her out. :shocked:
No definately not! Tracy made the point that she felt there was a divide between the brits and the Americans, which is between the housemates. Faria was the one that insulted the British public by saying that we would not allow either Asian or Black people to win. Dennis agreed with her, which is bad enough, but her comments were insulting; that is a fact!
Sunny_01
17-01-2006, 11:02 AM
Originally posted by Stropz
Makes a change from George pretending to be asleep so he can carry his little gossipy stories from group to group!..
Totally agree - George will be gutted he was not the one to break this little gem to the house.
Now george is saying the press will now have headlines *big brother in racism row* he can see it now!
Michael wants to keep going at it and George wants to leave it. George is saying that Faria et al have accused the 8 other housemates of racism! really feel sorry for Faria - of course they are cutting the sound to save the best bits for tomorrow nights show!
Originally posted by tali
Dennis agreed with her, which is bad enough, but her comments were insulting; that is a fact!
Dennis is trying to get on 'racist faria'. thats why he agreed.
Legend
17-01-2006, 11:04 AM
I'm watching live feed and it seems there all having a go at Traci.
Why?? Anyone know?
Yes because she was the breaker of the news that there could be racism amongst the British public, but it was Faris that said it!
Legend
17-01-2006, 11:12 AM
OH right,
I hope Faria doesn't go on friday.
coltrane
17-01-2006, 11:12 AM
Originally posted by tali
No definately not! Tracy made the point that she felt there was a divide between the brits and the Americans, which is between the housemates. Faria was the one that insulted the British public by saying that we would not allow either Asian or Black people to win. Dennis agreed with her, which is bad enough, but her comments were insulting; that is a fact!
Faria said it FIRST, now she's letting Traci take the blame, Galloway is blaming Traci for tonights headline "Racism in the BB House!" - He's wrong, Traci merely asked Rula to clarify what she overheard when Rula thought she was asleep - she should have left it Sunny - spot on, but if you hear someone slag you off you are allowed to defend yourself surely? Faria said a very nasty, racist & controversial statement - see 1st post - SHE should go NOW for her ideology & insult to British public, her statement says no British people (white) would let an Asian or Black win - they wouldn't vote for them she means - on race grounds! Insulting thing to say - Anti Racism groups will be fuming! - Poor Traci getting blamed - :mad::mad::mad::mad::mad::mad::mad::mad::mad::mad: :mad:
Hear, Hear Coltrane. But can you believe Faria is just sitting there letting Dennis and Tracy taking the blame?
ordinarygirl
17-01-2006, 11:20 AM
she is a walking b****. how can she act so innocent after all its the viewers who know the truth and who have the power to get rid of her and the way it is goin she could be gone 2mr nite.:joker:
Sunny_01
17-01-2006, 11:22 AM
oooh they are heated now - Dennis is not having any of this rubbish and blame laid at his door!
coltrane
17-01-2006, 11:24 AM
All hell's broke loose -Traci's being blamed - unfaily & Faria is watching her take it - OMG
Legend
17-01-2006, 11:24 AM
What does Traci keep saying abou Dennis saying he is only in here for color?
Did he say that?
And if he did, what does it mean? :xyxwave:
coltrane
17-01-2006, 11:26 AM
He said that they 3 were all there for colur - I'm sure he meant skin, but passing off as personality -maybe so but it's all out of order what's going on now!
:mad::devil:
ThaGazBoi
17-01-2006, 11:27 AM
OMG what goings on.
InTheHood
17-01-2006, 11:28 AM
No idea what's going on....
An Asian said that there is no way they'd let an Asian win?
coltrane
17-01-2006, 11:28 AM
All out war -argumentative wise !
His statement is unclear. My interpretation was that he is representing his colour, but what has angered me and I would think many others, is what Faria originally said. I repeat at 10.30 Faria discussing nominations etc said to Traci & Dennis in Living Room "Do you think forone minute they would let an asian or black person win this thing?" In this country? Oh Please.. No way..........."
This won't go down well :shocked:
ordinarygirl
17-01-2006, 11:35 AM
this is crazy are the ole men enjoyin it i bet pete is:laugh:
InTheHood
17-01-2006, 11:37 AM
It sounds like something you'd have to hear rather than read about.
As Faria is an Asian, I can only assume 'white' people are offended by her comments, as in her statement is that the British are racist.
Well, as a non Brit, that is how I read it, and I could be reading it wrong.
The tension has been building for days..something was going to bring about conflict and it just so happens it was this..Faria's original comment was quite controversial and I would suspect it simply slipped out in the heat of the moment as she's most likely quite p'd off to be up for eviction. Thats what happens when someone speaks without thinking first and in this case she's being viewed by millions to boot...
InTheHood
17-01-2006, 11:40 AM
Well watching E4+1 now......it seems like she's trying to say, as George said, that viewers are bigots, and that other housemates are racist.
Typical Pete statement (talking to Tracy) "you are walking straight into media crap traps" meanwhile Faria is still keeping quiet
George is all for having a house debate and Michael wants to keep out of it, or so he says!
InTheHood
17-01-2006, 11:44 AM
It seems George and Michael are enjoying it though.
Give them an inch, they take a mile
Barrymore loves an arguement lol.
George wants to have a debate about everything - just another excuse to imagine the authority that he seems to think he has in the house - but his idea of debate is to talk down to everybody else, while for some reason they all listen enthralled to him.
I really hope that this gets shown on the highlights tomorrow - although I don't think highlight is an appropriate word for this kind of thing!
InTheHood
17-01-2006, 11:49 AM
It will be shown on the late show, but it will be distorted, like all BB shows.
coltrane
17-01-2006, 11:50 AM
Originally posted by tali
His statement is unclear. My interpretation was that he is representing his colour, but what has angered me and I would think many others, is what Faria originally said. I repeat at 10.30 Faria discussing nominations etc said to Traci & Dennis in Living Room "Do you think forone minute they would let an asian or black person win this thing?" In this country? Oh Please.. No way..........."
Tali spot on - that ONE statement by Faria was the spark for all of this - not Dennis not Traci - Tali has quoted Faria word for word accurately - but Traci made it worse by mixing things up when she went to the group to see Rula!!
Dave
Sunny_01
17-01-2006, 11:52 AM
George just wants a platform to have a argument - I doubt even if they call a house meeting that they will let anyone speak George and Michael will be the only voices you hear!
Pete was very good in the bedroom with Traci just now! helped to calm things down and made Traci feel a little better - well done Pete for not jumping on the same band wagon as George and Michael are!
Now she is changing what she originally said. All will be revealed!
sounds like excellent car crash TV....Endemol must be clapping each other on the back and breaking out the champagne......
Originally posted by Dr.G
sounds like excellent car crash TV....Endemol must be clapping each other on the back and breaking out the champagne......
Oh I bet! Did they really forsee having this amount of drama in a celeb bb house? This will proably get a lot of coverage too.
ThaGazBoi
17-01-2006, 12:01 PM
Originally posted by Dr.G
sounds like excellent car crash TV....Endemol must be clapping each other on the back and breaking out the champagne......
They probley are. I cant watch it and im annoyed my sister is playing ps2. grr
InTheHood
17-01-2006, 12:05 PM
I think at worst, Faria has been a little naive and can be accused of not thinking before she speaks.
I think the word 'racism' is used far too often.
Legend
17-01-2006, 12:06 PM
They've all sat down and sorted it out. Faria told everyone it was her who said it not dennis or traci.
She said a few other thigns too and i feel really sorry for her.
Awww i hope she doesn't go.
coltrane
17-01-2006, 12:06 PM
Its calmer now-they're eating & Faria is apologising to the house mates & viewers - Quite bl***y right too!
InTheHood
17-01-2006, 12:07 PM
George won't let it lie, and when Michael needs to use it, he will.
ThaGazBoi
17-01-2006, 12:07 PM
Lets hope it does get sorted out probley. And not have any of this arguing..Although it is entertaining :hello:
She has just come clean and broken down to the rest of the housemates. She should still go, because it wasn't just the slip of the tongue she has just realised the impact this could have on her and the cameras don't lie!
stoney12
17-01-2006, 12:15 PM
This will be Faria going on the defensive.Get her out.I don't know why she went in to start with.She has had a massive platform to justify her actions (not sleeping with two men.... but then selling her story) and has not said one thing to convince me that she did it for anything else than money and notoriety.
Now she is up for eviction she has played a very unfair racism card by stating that the public would never let an asian or black person win.To justify that she will probably be voted out for the mere fact that the British public don't like her.She was booed on entering the house and apart from a suspect flirtation with Dennis has done nothing else.
Makosi-would have won last year but ruined her chances with the phantom pregnancy.
Ray-a close second to Cameron bb4
John Tickle-Voted back into the house overwhelmingly bb4
Victor-strong contender to win until the 'wedding' row in bb5
Derek and Science-both potential winners who blew it through their character traits.Both beat strong white competition sevral times.
Faria you will be voted out , nothing to do with being Asian , but as an already weak contender you have just offended all fans of BB , with your own malicious views.
Legend
17-01-2006, 12:32 PM
I like her :spin2:
ThaGazBoi
17-01-2006, 12:33 PM
i likED her, i think she is out of order what she said though.
So did i until today; not anymore! I wonder how many others have changed their view after listening to her views!
I was starting to like her but not now
Legend
17-01-2006, 12:45 PM
I hope not many because at the end of the day it's her view!
And to a nextent i agree with her, not that i think the british public don't like asians and wouldn't let them win but just that i think ppl automatically favour white housemates (not in a racist way tough) and thats how i see ity and i think thats all she meant.
I cant explain it properly!!!!!!!!! lol
Legend
17-01-2006, 12:47 PM
I can't understand how some ppl can completely change there opinion on someone over one single comment, i really cant!!
Everybody has the right to an opinion, but I also have the right to be offended by them and I am! I think it’s a darn right insult to say that I would not vote for someone because of their colour!!!!
I was starting to like Faria but what she said has changed my views, i mean how can she say something like that when its not true one bit.
She can say it because she has her opinion, but she has just shown us what kind of a person she is and that is why I CAN and HAVE changed my opinion of her!!!!
Legend
17-01-2006, 01:02 PM
Ok tali i get it! You've changed ur opinion on her, ok! :dog:
Alls im saying is i haven't changed my opinion on her! :dazzler:
Originally posted by Legend
I can't understand how some people can completely change there opinion on someone over one single comment, i really cant!!
That’s your prerogative but don't judge others who have different opinions
coltrane
17-01-2006, 01:07 PM
I cannot see grounds for forgiving THAT comment. It's very controversial and said with true passion not in jest! I can forgive even Barrymore some remarks, but nothing about such a Nationaly sensitive issue should be or can be forgiven. She is still trying to justify it now by saying the public want th hear the truth she believes, who she is & it's a GAME! Racism is NO game! BB is & on national t.v. & you just blew t. if it's right that's she has said that to avoid eviction that's even worse! One thing I'm pleased about & to her credit a little although under pressure - she owned up,& didn't leave Traci to take the blame from the Bullies flying at her earlier. Last night the flirt with Dennis & telling Traci she fancied him like mad! & now this. Can't stand her, I was warming to her slightly until last night which again looked tactical financially!
:mad:
Dave
stoney12
17-01-2006, 01:14 PM
Its a stupid thing to say on national tv and there is no excuse for saying it.
OK So a black or asian person has never won , that has nothing at all to do with colour.BB is about personality and consitancy of character nothing else.
Has I have already said...and its only thanks to Faria's comment that I have to point this out , BB fans have voted for whoever they think is an entertaining, likeable character in the house.
For Faria to point out as a fact that (to Dennis and Traci in particular , who don't know the show in Britian) no Black or Asian will ever win the show is totally out of order and ill informed.
BB fans don't care who wins as long as they are entertaining. (or in Camerons case unique).
Legend
17-01-2006, 01:17 PM
Originally posted by tali
Originally posted by Legend
I can't understand how some people can completely change there opinion on someone over one single comment, i really cant!!
That’s your prerogative but don't judge others who have different opinions
Who did i judge?? I said i can't understand why someone would change there opinion on one comment i didn't say ur a bad person for it or anything like that.
so saying "i can't understand why someone would change there opinion on one comment" isn't a judgement, OK what is it?
Legend
17-01-2006, 01:25 PM
It's an opinion, it's a view NOT a judgement! :bigsmile:
I suggest you look it up in the dictionary!
Legend
17-01-2006, 01:30 PM
Do u? I'm happy for u but im not going to do that. :rolleyes:
My OPINION is that I can't understand why some people can completely change there view on someone because of one comment. I didn't say those ppl who did that are terrible, nasty ppl - IMO that is judging someone by saying there something because of a view they have.
That was just my opinion and obviously ppl do change theres views because of one comment, i still can't understand why (not a judgement) but i respect that ppl can.
Judgement -The act or process of judging; the formation of an opinion after consideration or deliberation.
stoney12
17-01-2006, 01:35 PM
[quote]Originally posted by Legend
I hope not many because at the end of the day it's her view!
And to a nextent i agree with her, not that i think the british public don't like asians and wouldn't let them win but just that i think people automatically favour white housemates (not in a racist way tough) and thats how i see ity and i think thats all she meant.
I cant explain it properly!!!!!!!!! lol
Stoney replied to qoute...
No Legend you can't expian it at all.
I for one don't even think of the colour of the HM inthe house.
I would like to think that in 2006 most viewers don't.
Yeah.racsism does excist in Britain , but not to that extent, and I would think that the hardcore of racists that are out there are not tuned into BB and worrying about who is going to win.
I was never a fan of Faria in the first place.She is there for dubious reasons.But I am really offended that ;
a.She should say such a dumb ass thing with nothing to back it up.Especially when there are non-brits in the house who might actually believe it.
b.She has used it as an excuse so that when she walks tommorow , she can feel smug 'in a told you so way'.Therefore excusing the real reason that she was not a very good HM and most people were against her being in a celeb house anyway.
To be honest Legend, if you think that people favour white housemates because of their colour, then you are calling people racist.
I can totally understand how people can change their opinion of someone over one comment, depending on what that comment is. I had my suspicions the other day when she was talking about black men to Dennis - the way she was speaking made it sound as if she was being derogatory to black men in general, but on that occasion I only half heard what she said, so I gave her the benefit of the doubt.
Racism is bigotry, and bigotry is totally unattractive in anyone.
Faria's comment was out of order, and I suspect she knows it which is why she is trying to make amends. I doubt it will work though - her comments reflect her true opinions, which are very unattractive. It's put me off her, and I shall be voting to evict her on Wednesday.
My favourite housemate ever to be on BB is Victor and i'm sure its the same for many others so i cant see how she can go making comments like that, its not true at all.
Legend
17-01-2006, 02:02 PM
Originally posted by tali
Judgement -The act or process of judging; the formation of an opinion after consideration or deliberation.
Thanks for information. :wink:
Legend
17-01-2006, 02:04 PM
Originally posted by Ruth
To be honest Legend, if you think that people favour white housemates because of their colour, then you are calling people racist.
I can totally understand how people can change their opinion of someone over one comment, depending on what that comment is. I had my suspicions the other day when she was talking about black men to Dennis - the way she was speaking made it sound as if she was being derogatory to black men in general, but on that occasion I only half heard what she said, so I gave her the benefit of the doubt.
Racism is bigotry, and bigotry is totally unattractive in anyone.
Faria's comment was out of order, and I suspect she knows it which is why she is trying to make amends. I doubt it will work though - her comments reflect her true opinions, which are very unattractive. It's put me off her, and I shall be voting to evict her on Wednesday.
No, as i said up there i can't explain it properly and i didn't explain it properly.
And that weren't all my post that stoney quoted! I only rote bout a quarter of it. :conf:
You are very welcome:eureka:
stoney12
17-01-2006, 02:14 PM
Sorry Legend.The rest of the post was mine.I have this habit of putting a qoute and reply in the same box.Gonna try and edit it now.
Legend
17-01-2006, 02:15 PM
Oh rite ok. I knew i didn't rite all that lol.
ordinarygirl
17-01-2006, 02:17 PM
is dere anythin else happening in d house or are they still on about faria.
can we just move on now im bored of talking about her and even thinking of her is making me bored:spin2:
haribo
17-01-2006, 02:19 PM
faria is nice
coltrane
17-01-2006, 02:20 PM
As Ruth said, I don't want to drag this on now, because we're off tangent of BB - but at that party I heard her asking Traci for advice to date Dennis, & she actually said - trying to "sell" herself to Traci to passon - (my interpretation) -see the commentry from las night in Live feeds, - I have black friends who listen to black music, I like all sorts of music, Asian, some others the 2 Pac which Traci said "what? in her shreiky voice - really? Oh yeah said Faria - now I thought that was OTT but dismissed it as just trying to impress, but she said last week she would NEVER date him! Why so desperate last night - that;s not the point though using "Black Music" is wrong - music is Genre, pop, punk, drum & bass, rock n roll reggae - not a colour! put with today's outburst I know who'll I'll be voting out even if she does feel smug - I'll be joining Ruth! Not because I want a particular colour to Win, I definately want a different Housemate!!!
Last word from me on this topic - back to live feed!
ordinarygirl
17-01-2006, 02:20 PM
haribo she is not nice, she is boring and do you honestly think she will last to the wknd. i don't think so she lost all support from me and many others when she made that comment. what ever happens next she brought it all on herself
Razmataz
17-01-2006, 02:20 PM
Deary...I doubt Faria has done herself any good being in the house. but i dont think she has done much harm either.
stoney12
17-01-2006, 02:21 PM
I know we don't wanna get too bogged down in the racism trap again , however it was a bad thing to say and deserved debating.
And we have'nt even had the views of the people working 9/5 just yet.
haribo
17-01-2006, 02:22 PM
*Post edited by mike*
Please stop the personal insults
Razmataz
17-01-2006, 02:25 PM
Im not getting into another fight like last night.
Ordinary girl. everyone is allowed their view.
Instead of making it remarked at haribo maybe you could say 'in your opinion' better way of keeping the forum a nicer place to be
haribo
17-01-2006, 02:26 PM
good i dnt want another fight :devil:
Sunny_01
17-01-2006, 03:26 PM
Can we get this thread back on topic or it will be locked
Lance
17-01-2006, 06:17 PM
Have just got home and seen this.
I shall have to watch tomorrow's highlights and catch what happened. I doubt it was meant in a racist sense, though.
This racism card is brought up all the time to get people to stay or go. It's always being used like that.
But like I said I will have to check into it a bit more.:wink:
coltrane
17-01-2006, 06:30 PM
Lance you're right - They're all discussing it now cos Dennis is staying away from the rest! George is leading the inquisition as usual
Dave
I think you had better comment when you have seen the clip Lance. I watched it live and it was very much a racist comment
stoney12
17-01-2006, 07:24 PM
Originally posted by Lance
Have just got home and seen this.
I shall have to watch tomorrow's highlights and catch what happened. I doubt it was meant in a racist sense, though.
This racism card is brought up all the time to get people to stay or go. It's always being used like that.
But like I said I will have to check into it a bit more.:wink:
Yeah , I would Lance.Even then you are going to get the user friendly edit.4 pages of ( mostly)reasoned ,outrage were not placed here this morning 'cos we were bored.
GabrielleisLove
17-01-2006, 08:25 PM
I think what Faria said was the opposite of racist. She said that the voting public would never let a black or an asian win. She said nothing negative about the race, just about the public. So I definitely think there is more fuss than there needs to be. Racism is being against a group or minority, what faria said was not against black or asian people. I dislike the woman but what she said was not racist. I think some of you need to find out the real definition of racism before acusing people of being so. Because what she said was definitely not racist.
InTheHood
17-01-2006, 08:36 PM
I'll be as tactful as possible, although I expect a certain one or two members will troll me again.
What Faria said is naive, thoughtless and maybe pushing the odd boundary.
As a black man, in a foreign country (aka UK) I have had far worse thrown at me, which people do not consider racist.
Racism is used far too often in arguments.
If what Faria said is racist, then so are the comments about the USA made by certain housemates, yet this barely gets mentioned, possibly because it affects none of those 'offended'
So your saying that Farias assumption that the British Public not letting a Black or Asian person win Big Brother is not racist?
Edited by Sunny_01 - lets not get personal takl about HMs not each other
InTheHood
17-01-2006, 08:42 PM
Originally posted by tali
So your saying that Farias assumption that the British Public not letting a Black or Asian person win Big Brother is not racist?
This one.
I think her comments were ill judged, not racist. There is a difference. If I took all ill judged comments to heart, I could cry racism every 5 seconds.
I'm interested as to why making fun of Americans is not considered racist to you, but Faria's 'assumptions' are.
Firstly my reply was not directed at you and secondly i never said the comment towards the Americans was not racist, but as a member of the public I have every right to take her insults personally and as far as I am concerned they were racist comments. If you don't think her saying that I as a member of the public will not vote for a Black or Asian person in order for them not to win BB is racist then I don't know what is!
InTheHood
17-01-2006, 09:00 PM
Originally posted by tali
Firstly my reply was not directed at you and secondly i never said the comment towards the Americans was not racist, but as a member of the public I have every right to take her insults personally and as far as I am concerned they were racist comments. If you don't think her saying that I as a member of the public will not vote for a Black or Asian person in order for them not to win BB is racist then I don't know what is!
Well, I'm sorry you took her comments personally. I'll admit i've had years to get used to comments so I am perhaps a little more robust.
However, I do think people jump on anything, and I do think British people like a good moan about anything and everyone.
Legend
17-01-2006, 09:00 PM
Is this topic still going on? :rolleyes:
Thats a cop out!!
Are you saying that you should get used to racist comments and then say nothing?
InTheHood
17-01-2006, 09:29 PM
Originally posted by tali
Thats a cop out!!
Are you saying that you should get used to racist comments and then say nothing?
No, but in life you've got to be tough.
There comes a time when people can interperet anything as racial.
I don't see many threads on the USA comments, funny that.
You should have been here for BB6, no-one in the house could even look at anyone else without race being brought into the topics here.
I just think people like to make themselves noticed around here.
InTheHood
17-01-2006, 09:35 PM
Originally posted by tali
As i said a cop out!
Because i'm black and take no crap?
I know where you're coming from now.
InTheHood
17-01-2006, 09:36 PM
Originally posted by Legend
Is this topic still going on? :rolleyes:
Yep, so stop bringing it up :joker:
Are you saying that I am Black and take no crap?
Noun form, a cop-out, developed from the late 1950s onwards until it became nationally known in the mid-1960s -to mean an excuse, a pret ext, a going back on your responsibilities to avoid trouble, a cowardly or feeble evasion.
Sunny_01
17-01-2006, 09:42 PM
Locking this thread now - it is getting out of hand
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