Bennites

[fizzy]

That's the difference between JohnJames & Ben fans?

There are a lot of (Bennites) on this forum that I have to deal with every day even though last week I appealed to the forum to save Ben and get rid of Dave

[Locke.]

Go and have another can of coke Fizzy.

[stonedape]

I'm a Ben AND JJ fan *brain explosions everywhere*

[Locke.]

I don't mind John James when he isn't with Josie, I just think he is an idiot when he is in her company. He's a completely different person when he is with other people.

[fizzy]

Fair enough, not all ben fans take themselves too seriously.

But seriously, can everyone stop picking on me please, thanks

[Jords]

We :love: fizzy

[ElProximo]

I think a lot of Ben fans just realize what a stupid mistake 52% of the voting public just made.
They are not 'bitter' but actually feel sorry for the viewers.

Ben fan attitude is "Your loss dummies"

[fizzy]

I think a lot of Ben fans just realize what a stupid mistake 52% of the voting public just made.
They are not 'bitter' but actually feel sorry for the viewers.

Ben fan attitude is "Your loss dummies"

Loss of what though.

The house is way better since Ben left, you can't deny it.

[Kazanne]

That's the difference between JohnJames & Ben fans?

There are a lot of bitter queens (Bennites) on this forum that I have to deal with every day even though last week I appealed to the forum to save Ben and get rid of Dave

The difference between Ben fans and Crabby fans is that we dont resort to internet scams and cheating to get our housemate to stay in,we play fair Crabbies don't simple as.You don't have to deal with anything,lol,just skip the posts if you dont like them

[Angus]

Loss of what though.

The house is way better since Ben left, you can't deny it.

If you make stupid statements like this, don't be surprised if Ben fans pick on you! The house is only interesting at the moment because of Sam **** stirring the complacent bores like JJ&J into action - if you want to deny that, fine, but don't expect Ben fans not to respond when they read ridiculous posts like the "house is way better since Ben left" and arrogantly telling us we can't deny it, when we SOOOOO can. It's a particularly arrogant statement when we all know that JJ&J fans were responsible for an internet scam which tricked people into dialling Ben's eviction number. He might well have gone anyway having been stitched up by Dave and Rachel all week, but not by the margin he did.

You know what they say "if you can't stand the heat, get out of the kitchen"! This is a public forum where FMs can post as much hate as they wish about a HM , and in JJ's case there is so very much to hate, and despite all the evidence to the contrary his fans STILL think he walks on water. His loss would definitely make a difference in the house, FOR THE BETTER. Deny it all you want, it would be true.

Incidentally, calling Ben fans "bitter queens" is surely against forum rules about insulting fans of other HMs.

[fizzy]

The difference between Ben fans and Crabby fans is that we dont resort to internet scams and cheating to get our housemate to stay in,we play fair Crabbies don't simple as.You don't have to deal with anything,lol,just skip the posts if you dont like them

I'm a JJ fan and I've never resorted to an internet scam or cheating to keep him in. so you can't say that of all John fans.

But I have seen Ben fans do it on this forum

[fizzy]

If you make stupid statements like this, don't be surprised if Ben fans pick on you! The house is only interesting at the moment because of Sam **** stirring the complacent bores like JJ&J into action - if you want to deny that, fine, but don't expect Ben fans not to respond when they read ridiculous posts like the "house is way better since Ben left" and arrogantly telling us we can't deny it, when we SOOOOO can. It's a particularly arrogant statement when we all know that JJ&J fans were responsible for an internet scam which tricked people into dialling Ben's eviction number. He might well have gone anyway having been stitched up by Dave and Rachel all week, but not by the margin he did.

You know what they say "if you can't stand the heat, get out of the kitchen"! This is a public forum where FMs can post as much hate as they wish about a HM , and in JJ's case there is so very much to hate, and despite all the evidence to the contrary his fans STILL think he walks on water. His loss would definitely make a difference in the house, FOR THE BETTER. Deny it all you want, it would be true.

Incidentally, calling Ben fans "bitter queens" is surely against forum rules about insulting fans of other HMs.


I couldn't be bothered reading your post, it was too bore-achingly loooong

[ElProximo]

Loss of what though.

The house is way better since Ben left, you can't deny it.

I can easily deny it. The house has lost the funniest and most interesting character.
Not just Ben himself but the social dynamic he was a part of.

But hey.. if you think JJJ is really great or Sam putting balls in her mouth is 'way better' then you get what you deserve and its better Ben is not wasted on you.

That is why I suggest to the OP that they have it all wrong. People who appreciate Ben are more likely 'thankful' because it turns out BB's audience doesn't deserve Ben after all,
and,
its just as well he doesn't waste his talents on that after all.

[Niamh.]

Is it possible to talk about a HM without insulting the fans of that particular HM?

[Kazanne]

I'm a JJ fan and I've never resorted to an internet scam or cheating to keep him in. so you can't say that of all John fans.

But I have seen Ben fans do it on this forum

I did not say ALL his fans but it IS fact and there is proof it happened,what sort of people con money from gullible people like that,it's disgusting and the Ben fans do not offer celebrity prizes for someone to ring a number given to them,IF I was a Crabby fan I would be ashamed of those fans that have stooped so low and to be honest it doesn't say much about him either.

[Kazanne]

I couldn't be bothered reading your post, it was too bore-achingly loooong

Ah,these kids ,got no attention span:joker:Well posted Angus and spot on as usual,read it you'll find some truth in it

[Niamh.]

I did not say ALL his fans but it IS fact and there is proof it happened,what sort of people con money from gullible people like that,it's disgusting and the Ben fans do not offer celebrity prizes for someone to ring a number given to them,IF I was a Crabby fan I would be ashamed of those fans that have stooped so low and to be honest it doesn't say much about him either.

Excuse me Kazanne but John James fans do not have to feel responsible for what some other John James fans did. We are all responsible for our own actions and for you to suggest that I (as a John James fan) should feel ashamed for what some people who I don't know and never met did simply because we like the same HM in Big Brother is quite frankly ridiculous.

[Kazanne]

Excuse me Kazanne but John James fans do not have to feel responsible for what some other John James fans did. We are all responsible for our own actions and for you to suggest that I (as a John James fan) should feel ashamed for what some people who I don't know and never met did simply because we like the same HM in Big Brother is quite frankly ridiculous.

I wouldn't like a housemate I liked to win by those sort of tactics,I would like to think they got their on their own,whoever it is,the fans that did that imo let the good fans down and him.

[Niamh.]

I wouldn't like a housemate I liked to win by those sort of tactics,I would like to think they got their on their own,whoever it is,the fans that did that imo let the good fans down and him.

I'm sure it didn't make that much difference to the result anyway. John James was very popular last week. Not so much this week though.

[fizzy]

Is it possible to talk about a HM without insulting the fans of that particular HM?


sorry. I'll try.

[Angus]

Is it possible to talk about a HM without insulting the fans of that particular HM?

Clearly the OP doesn't seem to think so. She knows she is in the wrong so resorts to childish insults.

[Niamh.]

Yes it is Ian:nono:

[Crimson Dynamo]

It seems to me that the most hateful comments on this forum come from people with an illogical and spiteful hate of JJ and Josie

It is possible people to like diff peeps each night. Last night I loved Dave "Andrew, you have no chance" and his faux glory druinkeness. But tonight I may hate him.

You dont have to stick with anyone. BTW I think Ben should have stayed and Mario/Steve should have gone, if we are talking entertainment.

[Angus]

I couldn't be bothered reading your post, it was too bore-achingly loooong

Then it's probably not a good idea to come onto a public forum which is about debating different points of view. If you have no rebuttal, simply don't respond to my post - that's fine with me. I shall continue to rebut false statements where I see them and since you were being deliberately provocative by calling ALL Ben fans "bitter queens" expect negative responses!

As regards Ben fans doing the same thing on this forum, I suggest you report such posts if it bothers you.

[Niamh.]

It seems to me that the most hateful comments on this forum come from people with an illogical and spiteful hate of JJ and Josie

It is possible people to like diff peeps each night. Last night I loved Dave "Andrew, you have no chance" and his faux glory druinkeness. But tonight I may hate him.

You dont have to stick with anyone. BTW I think Ben should have stayed and Mario/Steve should have gone, if we are talking entertainment.

The voice of reason indeed LT:hugesmile:

[Angus]

It seems to me that the most hateful comments on this forum come from people with an illogical and spiteful hate of JJ and Josie

It is possible people to like diff peeps each night. Last night I loved Dave "Andrew, you have no chance" and his faux glory druinkeness. But tonight I may hate him.

You dont have to stick with anyone. BTW I think Ben should have stayed and Mario/Steve should have gone, if we are talking entertainment.


I do not have an illogical or spiteful "hatred" of the camera *****s JJ&J. I am commenting on what I have seen and heard them say and do, and my opinions are as valid as yours or anyone else's.

This is a public forum for the discussion or what we love and hate about the HMs, not a JJ&J extended Appreciation Thread. If the OP wants to title a thread calling Ben fans "bitter queens" she must expect Ben fans to comment, especially since she offers no evidence to support that statement other than a lot of us Ben fans detest the duvet divers because they have completely ruined what could have been a fantastic last series.

[Angus]

I'm a JJ fan and I've never resorted to an internet scam or cheating to keep him in. so you can't say that of all John fans.

But I have seen Ben fans do it on this forum



If you read my post you will see that not once have I accused ALL JJ&J fans of the internet scam and neither has Kazanne, but it is a FACT that it was JJ&J fans who were responsible for the internet scam, and Ben fans are entitled to comment.

[Niamh.]

I do not have an illogical or spiteful "hatred" of the camera *****s JJ&J. I am commenting on what I have seen and heard them say and do, and my opinions are as valid as yours or anyone else's.

This is a public forum for the discussion or what we love and hate about the HMs, not a JJ&J extended Appreciation Thread. If the OP wants to title a thread calling Ben fans "bitter queens" she must expect Ben fans to comment, especially since she offers no evidence to support that statement other than a lot of us Ben fans detest the duvet divers because they have completely ruined what could have been a fantastic last series.

They haven't ruined anything, If there was something more interesting going then that would have been shown instead.

[fizzy]

They haven't ruined anything, If there was something more interesting going then that would have been shown instead.

this

[stonedape]

I agree that most of the irrational stuff comes from the haters, not the supposed "teenybopper" JJJ supporters. They typically involve ad hominems + repeating the word fake. All anyone talks about anymore is biased editing and "I'm sick of the X show" when in reality the editors do a relatively fair job at showing the most interesting moments of the day. It's not that unfair. The characters who get tons of air time, in general but not always, provide the most consistent entertainment.

Ben fans should understand, as the same "you only like Ben because the editors want you to he's actually REALLY BORING/SATAN" crap was used against Ben last week.

[Angus]

They haven't ruined anything, If there was something more interesting going then that would have been shown instead.

That is total bullsh*t - the producers have shoved the fauxmance down our throats 24/7 - there were plenty of other interesting characters in the house who got voted out because not enough air time was allocated to them, or walked because they realised that it was already a done deal so far as BB were concerned that JJ&J were to be in the final. The viewers have been cheated out of a good show this year because of this blatant favouritism and bias. Not once have either of these camera *****s received a fitting punishment for their frequent and arrogantly blatant rule breaks.

[Niamh.]

That is total bullsh*t - the producers have shoved the fauxmance down our throats 24/7 - there were plenty of other interesting characters in the house who got voted out because not enough air time was allocated to them, or walked because they realised that it was already a done deal so far as BB were concerned that JJ&J were to be in the final. The viewers have been cheated out of a good show this year because of this blatant favouritism and bias. Not once have either of these camera *****s received a fitting punishment for their frequent and arrogantly blatant rule breaks.

I'm sorry but that doesn't make any logical sense. The producers want viewers watching so It would be in their best interest to show what will will appeal to most people.

[Angus]

I agree that most of the irrational stuff comes from the haters, not the supposed "teenybopper" JJJ supporters. They typically involve ad hominems + repeating the word fake. All anyone talks about anymore is biased editing and "I'm sick of the X show" when in reality the editors do a relatively fair job at showing the most interesting moments of the day. It's not that unfair. The characters who get tons of air time, in general but not always, provide the most consistent entertainment.

Ben fans should understand, as the same "you only like Ben because the editors want you to he's actually REALLY BORING/SATAN" crap was used against Ben last week.

Just as there are some infantile JJ&J fans on this and other forums, there are no doubt equal numbers of this type of fan for every HM. Such fans of every HM often resort to repetitive, meaningless insults as they are probably ill-educated and have a limited vocabulary. Either that or they resort to typing in large font as if the size of the words they write are somehow made more meaningful!

Nevertheless, every criticism I, myself, have made of JJ&J has been grounded in factual events and conversations I have witnessed and heard for myself, and whilst my descriptive language of these two individuals is often colourful, it is always apposite and appropriate to the point I am making or opinion I am expressing. Some of us are able to express ourselves in words of more than one syllable, and I take great delight in finding the mot juste to describe a HM I either like or loathe. If fans of the HMs I dislike object to my opinions of their faves, they have the option to respond with their point of view and opinions - unfortunately, such responses often take the form of "yah sucks boo" rather than any meaningful rebuttal.

[Angus]

I'm sorry but that doesn't make any logical sense. The producers want viewers watching so It would be in their best interest to show what will will appeal to most people.

So you are saying that Big Brother should not in fact be a fair and impartial game show in which the viewers have the final say without the interference and manipulation of the producers? Certainly the show this year has blatantly been the most biased I have ever watched.

[fizzy]

LOL comb my hair ffs it's an old photo anyway LOL

[Kazanne]

Just as there are some infantile JJ&J fans on this and other forums, there are no doubt equal numbers of this type of fan for every HM. Such fans of every HM often resort to repetitive, meaningless insults as they are probably ill-educated and have a limited vocabulary. Either that or they resort to typing in large font as if the size of the words they write are somehow made more meaningful!

Nevertheless, every criticism I, myself, have made of JJ&J has been grounded in factual events and conversations I have witnessed and heard for myself, and whilst my descriptive language of these two individuals is often colourful, it is always apposite and appropriate to the point I am making or opinion I am expressing. Some of us are able to express ourselves in words of more than one syllable, and I take great delight in finding the mot juste to describe a HM I either like or loathe. If fans of the HMs I dislike object to my opinions of their faves, they have the option to respond with their point of view and opinions - unfortunately, such responses often take the form of "yah sucks boo" rather than any meaningful rebuttal.

Another great post from Angus:xyxwave::xyxwave:

[Niamh.]

So you are saying that Big Brother should not in fact be a fair and impartial game show in which the viewers have the final say without the interference and manipulation of the producers? Certainly the show this year has blatantly been the most biased I have ever watched.

I am saying, that I understand if people are making a show that they will want to please their audience and show them what they want to see. I have know doubt that they believe that what they've been showing has been what people are most interested in seeing. Yes the other HMs need to be shown but I don't want to see an equal distribution of the time between all the house mates because alot of them are just not very interesting to watch.

[Niamh.]

Another great post from Angus:xyxwave::xyxwave:

I agree:hugesmile:

[Beso]

They haven't ruined anything, If there was something more interesting going then that would have been shown instead.

give over, theres at least ten things i could name that happened tuesday that could have been shown instead of duvet dancing. Keep it real eh, your a mod fgs.:sleep:

[Beso]

LOL comb my hair ffs it's an old photo anyway LOL

Put a slightly open mouthed one up for the lads.

[Niamh.]

give over, theres at least ten things i could name that happened tuesday that could have been shown instead of duvet dancing. Keep it real eh, your a mod fgs.:sleep:

Because I'm a mod I should have the same opinion as you?

[Beso]

Because I'm a mod I should have the same opinion as you?

you should keep it real. Trying to say there is nothing more interesting going on!!

Pfft, bb should remember that the age group they are aiming for with this stupid romance crap shouldn't even be watching the post watershed show.

Makes me sick, makes most viewers sick.

[Niamh.]

you should keep it real. Trying to say there is nothing more interesting going on!!

Pfft, bb should remember that the age group they are aiming for with this stupid romance crap shouldn't even be watching the post watershed show.

Makes me sick, makes most viewers sick.

In my opinion the producers are showing what they think their viewers are most interested in seeing. Why would they not do that? They want people to watch fgs, I doubt they care that much who actually goes on to win the show tbh.

[Angus]

Another great post from Angus:xyxwave::xyxwave:

Thank you.:blush2:

[Beso]

In my opinion the producers are showing what they think their viewers are most interested in seeing. Why would they not do that? They want people to watch fgs, I doubt they care that much who actually goes on to win the show tbh.

We all know that, I just find it strange and somewhat disturbing when you said the producers would have showed something more interesting if there was something more interesting to show, when, after watching live feed all day, there clearly was. Things that show much more about the housemates characters than a quick belly rub and other things that show that the producers quite clearly do care who stays in the house.

Things like 3 clear rule breaks regarding nominations, or the task being redone after one attempt after the rules were clearly read out because two out of the three didn't do it properly so the unfortunate one, who just happened not to be in a relationship missed out from saving herself.

Now if you want to watch some desperate housewife hack and cough her way through half a hand job and find that more interesting than finding out about peoples characters that you will have to eventually vote for to win big brother then i'm sorry, really sorry but viewers with those views, have, for me, ruined the dam show and cost it it's rightful place as the head of reality tv in the uk.

[Niamh.]

We all know that, I just find it strange and somewhat disturbing when you said the producers would have showed something more interesting if there was something more interesting to show, when, after watching live feed all day, there clearly was. Things that show much more about the housemates characters than a quick belly rub and other things that show that the producers quite clearly do care who stays in the house.

Things like 3 clear rule breaks regarding nominations, or the task being redone after one attempt after the rules were clearly read out because two out of the three didn't do it properly so the unfortunate one, who just happened not to be in a relationship missed out from saving herself.

Now if you want to watch some desperate housewife hack and cough her way through half a hand job and find that more interesting than finding out about peoples characters that you will have to eventually vote for to win big brother then i'm sorry, really sorry but viewers with those views, have, for me, ruined the dam show and cost it it's rightful place as the head of reality tv in the uk.

Well, I have found the relationship between John James and Josie very interesting actually. The tasks in general I don't find hugely entertaining apart from a couple of good ones.

I don't think it was viewers views that ruined Big Brother personally, it has just run it's course and people lost interest. I am hoping never the less that it will be taken over by another channel and re invented in some way.

[Beso]

Well, I have found the relationship between John James and Josie very interesting actually. The tasks in general I don't find hugely entertaining apart from a couple of good ones.

I don't think it was viewers views that ruined Big Brother personally, it has just run it's course and people lost interest. I am hoping never the less that it will be taken over by another channel and re invented in some way.

Don't you ever think why viewers have switched off?


Could it not be the very fact we are force fed the will they wont they situation year after year by the ridiculous producers who after paul and helen became such a hit prayed to god for more of the same. When in fact the harder they tried to make us believe this would happen by selecting desperate idiots who would prostitute themselves for a page in some desperate magazine, the more the show failed, and the viewers, the original viewers, started turning of in their droves because of the way it was force fed to us!


The producers should never work in television again as instead of trying to recapture the viewers that they lost decided it would be a better idea to get as much column inches in those said desperate magazines with the faux romance stories that most ex viewers find nausiating.

[Niamh.]

Don't you ever think why viewers have switched off?


Could it not be the very fact we are force fed the will they wont they situation year after year by the ridiculous producers who after paul and helen became such a hit prayed to god for more of the same. When in fact the harder they tried to make us believe this would happen by selecting desperate idiots who would prostitute themselves for a page in some desperate magazine, the more the show failed, and the viewers, the original viewers, started turning of in their droves because of the way it was force fed to us!


The producers should never work in television again as instead of trying to recapture the viewers that they lost decided it would be a better idea to get as much column inches in those said desperate magazines with the faux romance stories that most ex viewers find nausiating.

Every programme peaks and falls, that's life. Things have changed from the earlier series because they had to. You could never get the type of show it was back then, back because it was more innocent back then because it was new and people didn't know what would come of it.

It was the type of people applying as well that helped in it's demise, trying to re create popular past HMs etc. and its pure luck picking the right contestants, I think, as most of them lie through their teeth when applying as we can see from their VTs at the start.

Last year they got lucky with their choices of HMs they were all very interesting characters (besides Sophies who won :/) I just think they have a really sh1t bunch this year tbh.

[Kazanne]

Well, I have found the relationship between John James and Josie very interesting actually. The tasks in general I don't find hugely entertaining apart from a couple of good ones.

I don't think it was viewers views that ruined Big Brother personally, it has just run it's course and people lost interest. I am hoping never the less that it will be taken over by another channel and re invented in some way.

What has been interesting for you in their 'romance'?just curious

[Kazanne]

Every programme peaks and falls, that's life. Things have changed from the earlier series because they had to. You could never get the type of show it was back then, back because it was more innocent back then because it was new and people didn't know what would come of it.

It was the type of people applying as well that helped in it's demise, trying to re create popular past HMs etc. and its pure luck picking the right contestants, I think, as most of them lie through their teeth when applying as we can see from their VTs at the start.

Last year they got lucky with their choices of HMs they were all very interesting characters (besides Sophies who won :/) I just think they have a really sh1t bunch this year tbh.

I agree,excluding Ben of course who was a one off classic housemate,imo.

[Niamh.]

What has been interesting for you in their 'romance'?just curious

Not so much the romance as such but the way their relationship has developed and the way they interact with eachother interests me.

[Kazanne]

Not so much the romance as such but the way their relationship has developed and the way they interact with eachother interests me.

It's good we are all different,I just think he is using her and I think Josie has spoilt any chance she had of winning,she was so funny at first she was my second fave to Ben,and I have to admit I am so bored of them both now,It has dragged on far too long,his body language speaks volumes.

[Niamh.]

I agree,excluding Ben of course who was a one off classic housemate,imo.

Ben was definitely one of the more interesting Hms this year absolutely but as usual we always vote out those, which was ok in previous years cos there were other interesting characters in the house. This year the show is crumbling because there aren't that many to fall back on now!

[Niamh.]

It's good we are all different,I just think he is using her and I think Josie has spoilt any chance she had of winning,she was so funny at first she was my second fave to Ben,and I have to admit I am so bored of them both now,It has dragged on far too long,his body language speaks volumes.

I can't figure it out myself which is why I find it interesting

[joeysteele]

The house is DEAD since BEN went out, and many people I know that just watch the show, not particularly liking anyone strongly have said that with no prompting from me, or people I know who are Jjames fans prompting either.As for picking on anyone, isnt this thread by whoever started it, picking on and getting at BEN fans anyway.

[joeysteele]

I'm with Kazanne 100% on this topic, spot on, not a thing I disgree with.nor could any fair and decent minded other people either.
It does seem JJames has magician/hypnotist as part of part of his make up too, since it appears he can either brianwash or hypnotise people.it will never work on Kazanne and myself though.

[fizzy]

I've been air-brushed :D

[Mystic Mock]

Loss of what though.

The house is way better since Ben left, you can't deny it.

lol good joke because its died with out him.