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Crimson Dynamo
05-08-2010, 01:21 PM
Not heard much pro-welsh fervour for the sinister minster

Wales not like him then?

Chels
05-08-2010, 01:22 PM
Does nationality even matter?

Crimson Dynamo
05-08-2010, 01:23 PM
Does nationality even matter?

yes

Chels
05-08-2010, 01:26 PM
yes

No it doesn't you clown, so everyone from Wales has to like him because he's Welsh? No fkin way

Kore
05-08-2010, 01:28 PM
Im Welsh and Agree with Chels.

Just because he's welsh doesnt mean I'm going to like him. I dont think he's the worst housmate, but he certainly isnt my favourite. He's alrightish i guess....

brian3
05-08-2010, 01:29 PM
Why do Welsh, scotish and irish hms alway need the seal of approval from the Welsh, Scotish or Irish.

Crimson Dynamo
05-08-2010, 01:30 PM
This is what I mean

the Weshies dont like him

The Irish always get behind their man and so do the Scots


interesting...

Mac Hiavellian
05-08-2010, 01:31 PM
No it doesn't you clown, so everyone from Wales has to like him because he's Welsh? No fkin way

The majority of HMs have been English and in the past fans from Wales and Scotland have complained the Welsh and Scottish HMs have been poor representations. Same as gay people saying "the gay HMs are poor representions", black people, Asian people etc etc

LaLaLand
05-08-2010, 01:35 PM
I'm Welsh, I'm proud that there's been a prominent Welsh housemate in there this year but I still dislike Dave as a housemate., if that makes sense.

Kore
05-08-2010, 01:36 PM
The majority of HMs have been English and in the past fans from Wales and Scotland have complained the Welsh and Scottish HMs have been poor representations. Same as gay people saying "the gay HMs are poor representions", black people, Asian people etc etc

Not the case with Wales really, Imogen, Helen, Glyn have come from wales, but they havnt been bad representations of us really, neither has Dave been Bad.

They just havnt been MY Favourite. The fact I'm Welsh doesnt really come into it. lol

Shasown
05-08-2010, 01:36 PM
This is what I mean

the Weshies dont like him

The Irish always get behind their man and so do the Scots


interesting...

Oh yeah thats so true, like the whole of Ireland supported Noirin and all of Scotland supported Karly last year. But then again they werent men were they, lets look further in the past for nationalist support......


Lets not bother eh, because the only person who believes the drivel he spouts is the OP himself.

Raph
05-08-2010, 01:37 PM
I'm Welsh. I loved Rachel, Glyn and Imogen. However, I didn't like them as they were Welsh; I liked them as they were great housemates. Dave on the otherhand, doesn't irritate me, but I hardly support him. I think personality comes first, and then perhaps, nationality! :thumbs:

Sunday
05-08-2010, 01:38 PM
No it doesn't you clown, so everyone from Wales has to like him because he's Welsh? No fkin way


It usually happens that way.

seanraff07
05-08-2010, 01:38 PM
I'm Scottish and i've really disliked the most recent Scottish HM's.

LaLaLand
05-08-2010, 01:39 PM
I HATED Imogen, she was the most pointless BB7 housemate. She didn't speak for about 7 weeks and when she did she was just a cow.

DrunkerThanMoses
05-08-2010, 01:41 PM
Wiredly Ive never really liked many welsh housmeates (bar from Rachel and Helen).

Chels
05-08-2010, 01:42 PM
The majority of HMs have been English and in the past fans from Wales and Scotland have complained the Welsh and Scottish HMs have been poor representations. Same as gay people saying "the gay HMs are poor representions", black people, Asian people etc etc

Not really, if there actually was a nationality vote (and there clearly isn't) then those HMs would have a fck load of votes and pretty much make the final everytime. And there's always the idiot who goes 'Rachel won BB9 because of the Welsh' which seriously pisses me off because I couldn't stand the bint.

Nationality means nothing in BB

Raph
05-08-2010, 01:42 PM
Wiredly Ive never really liked many welsh housmeates (bar from Rachel and Helen).

the Cwmbranis :hugesmile:

Raph
05-08-2010, 01:43 PM
Not really, if there actually was a nationality vote (and there clearly isn't) then those HMs would have a fck load of votes and pretty much make the final everytime. And there's always the idiot who goes 'Rachel won BB9 because of the Welsh' which seriously pisses me off because I couldn't stand the bint.

Nationality means nothing in BB


Chels, what the ****! :shocked:

Chels
05-08-2010, 01:43 PM
It usually happens that way.

Bullsh!t, how come Scottish HMs have always done crap then????

LaLaLand
05-08-2010, 01:44 PM
They've needed a North Waleian in there from the start and there hasn't been any.

We've had Mid and South but not North. They'd definitley stir things up (not bias at all................)

daniel-lewis-1985
05-08-2010, 01:45 PM
They've needed a North Waleian in there from the start and there hasn't been any.

We've had Mid and South but not North. They'd definitley stir things up (not bias at all................)

Glyn was from North Wales...FAIL

DrunkerThanMoses
05-08-2010, 01:45 PM
the Cwmbranis :hugesmile:

Lol strange. Maybe its a sign that jsut cwmbran people do well in big brother... 2nd and 1st.... damn I should of been in it. I would of won of course :)

Raph
05-08-2010, 01:45 PM
They've needed a North Waleian in there from the start and there hasn't been any.

We've had Mid and South but not North. They'd definitley stir things up (not bias at all................)

Glyn was from up north, Jonnii!

Raph
05-08-2010, 01:46 PM
Lol strange. Maybe its a sign that jsut cwmbran people do well in big brother... 2nd and 1st.... damn I should of been in it. I would of won of course :)

:thumbs:

Sunday
05-08-2010, 01:47 PM
Bullsh!t, how come Scottish HMs have always done crap then????


Cuz the Scots wont pay for the text message vote?? :hugesmile:

Mac Hiavellian
05-08-2010, 01:47 PM
Not the case with Wales really, Imogen, Helen, Glyn have come from wales, but they havnt been bad representations of us really, neither has Dave been Bad.

They just havnt been MY Favourite. The fact I'm Welsh doesnt really come into it. lol

I think the criticism in the past was before BB7 and that there was a big lack of Welsh HMs in BBs1-6. Helen in BB2, Lisa in BB4, Maggot in CBB4 but who else? Whereas the Scots had a few more but weren't overly keen on Lynne, Federico, Cameron, Jason etc

At the end of the day not everyone will have the exact same opinion on HMs as other people, it is all personal preference, as shown in the votes "Who do YOU want to evict/win?" But BB also deals with social gorups and that's why viewers can relate to those social groups e.g. Derek was gay, black and a tory so some viewers could relate to some of his aspects, but might compalin "He's too camp. Not all gay men are like that" or "He's too bitchy. He makes black people look bad."

I'm English and tbh I can't stand a lot of the English HMs lol.

Claymores
05-08-2010, 01:48 PM
I have to slightly agree with LT for a change - during BB7 I was told on c4 forum and I quote "we're all behind Glyn because he's Welsh boyo. All the people at my factory are voting him to win"

LaLaLand
05-08-2010, 01:49 PM
Nooo Blaenau where Glyn's from is seen a Mid from up here! I guess you could class it as North.. but it's not NORTH North.

Throw someone from the backstreets of Rhyl in.. :O

DrunkerThanMoses
05-08-2010, 01:49 PM
I have to slightly agree with LT for a change - during BB7 I was told on c4 forum and I quote "we're all behind Glyn because he's Welsh boyo. All the people at my factory are voting him to win"

Um... I hated glyn so much..... so much I got banned from this website with my old account :bawling:

Raph
05-08-2010, 01:50 PM
I have to slightly agree with LT for a change - during BB7 I was told on c4 forum and I quote "we're all behind Glyn because he's Welsh boyo. All the people at my factory are voting him to win"

I think Glyn was an exeption, because he was a very patriotic person, and was playing for his country. First time Welsh had been spoken in there, his Welsh swimsuit, how he spent hours of the day speaking about Wales - in that case, I can say a housemate did do Wales proud :)

Claymores
05-08-2010, 01:50 PM
Cuz the Scots wont pay for the text message vote?? :hugesmile:

Long time since you voted then I see...........text voting went out with the dinosaurs in about BB7 :joker:

Peter Plunker
05-08-2010, 01:51 PM
Lol strange. Maybe its a sign that jsut cwmbran people do well in big brother... 2nd and 1st.... damn I should of been in it. I would of won of course :)

Torfaen people ;)

Chels
05-08-2010, 01:53 PM
Cuz the Scots wont pay for the text message vote?? :hugesmile:

There isn't one anymore is there? :laugh:

Raph
05-08-2010, 01:54 PM
Torfaen people ;)

Rachel was born in Torfaen, but she's originally from Cwmbran, and lives there. Helen is also from Cwmbran. It's the Cwmbranis ;)

Sunday
05-08-2010, 01:54 PM
Long time since you voted then I see...........text voting went out with the dinosaurs in about BB7 :joker:



Well he was talking past tense, he asked why they have never won.

Mac Hiavellian
05-08-2010, 01:54 PM
Not really, if there actually was a nationality vote (and there clearly isn't) then those HMs would have a fck load of votes and pretty much make the final everytime. And there's always the idiot who goes 'Rachel won BB9 because of the Welsh' which seriously pisses me off because I couldn't stand the bint.

Nationality means nothing in BB

I never said the Welsh should vote for Dave to win on the basis that he's Welsh or that this has been the case in the past. What I said was The Scottish and Welsh, along with gay people, black people, Asian people, work class, upper class, any social group have complaiend in the past that they are porr representations of their specific groups. If BB was purely a Nationality vote then it'd be like Eurovision, which it's not

DrunkerThanMoses
05-08-2010, 01:56 PM
Torfaen people ;)

:shocked: That means hes going to come 3rd this year.

Helen - 2nd
Rcahel - 1st
Dave - 3rd

Claymores
05-08-2010, 01:56 PM
I think Glyn was an exeption, because he was a very patriotic person, and was playing for his country. First time Welsh had been spoken in there, his Welsh swimsuit, how he spent hours of the day speaking about Wales - in that case, I can say a housemate did do Wales proud :)

I'm winding you slightly Raph - it's hard to be patriotic behind Dave. as it was hard for me to acknowlege Cameron was Scottish! Or other 'scottsh' entrants who were complete fails

Chels
05-08-2010, 01:57 PM
I never said the Welsh should vote for Dave to win on the basis that he's Welsh or that this has been the case in the past. What I said was The Scottish and Welsh, along with gay people, black people, Asian people, work class, upper class, any social group have complaiend in the past that they are porr representations of their specific groups. If BB was purely a Nationality vote then it'd be like Eurovision, which it's not

Ye but tbf we don't care where Dave's from and whether he gives a good representation of 'us' as nobody is going to be exactly like him and he's not representing us for that reason.

DrunkerThanMoses
05-08-2010, 01:59 PM
So basically were saying people from cwmbran (me, raph, helen and rachel) are lovely people, while everyone else in wales are horrible people (chels :p)

Chels
05-08-2010, 01:59 PM
:shocked: That means hes going to come 3rd this year.

Helen - 2nd
Rcahel - 1st
Dave - 3rd

Yay I'd be happy if he came 3rd :D

He's my fav cos I like him as a person, not cos he's from 20 mins up the road. It's pretty awesome that he supports City as well though! :D

Claymores
05-08-2010, 02:01 PM
Well he was talking past tense, he asked why they have never won.

Cameron did - but Scots are usually dislikeable idiots/wierdos that they put on. Karly lives 3 doors away from my aunt, and I would ignore her

Chels
05-08-2010, 02:01 PM
So basically were saying people from cwmbran (me, raph, helen and rachel) are lovely people, while everyone else in wales are horrible people (chels :p)

WE ARE YOUR CAPITAL, WE ARE YOUR CAPITAL! l

daniel-lewis-1985
05-08-2010, 02:03 PM
Blaenau is north wales mate

Claymores
05-08-2010, 02:03 PM
So basically were saying people from cwmbran (me, raph, helen and rachel) are lovely people, while everyone else in wales are horrible people (chels :p)

But you're still coming to Lee's spag-bol fest..............I've already booked the bouncy castle :hugesmile:

Mac Hiavellian
05-08-2010, 02:03 PM
Ye but tbf we don't care where Dave's from and whether he gives a good representation of 'us' as nobody is going to be exactly like him and he's not representing us for that reason.

Fine, that's a good and healthy look at it but in the past some posters on here, on DS or people I've met have been disgruntled about this. It's these sort of people that view HMs as stereotypes like how in BB9 Rachel was the representative for Wales, Dennis the token for gays, Mohammed for Muslims and so on but in reality HMs are real people, the things they say or do might be edited in certian ways but they're also unscripted

Chels
05-08-2010, 02:03 PM
Well he was talking past tense, he asked why they have never won.

Because they actually have never won :S

and I'm a girl, I have hearts in my sig ffs :nono:

Sunday
05-08-2010, 02:09 PM
Because they actually have never won :S

and I'm a girl, I have hearts in my sig ffs :nono:



Sorry hun!!:blush: :hugesmile: you could have been gay??? no?

And I have only been joking btw.

DrunkerThanMoses
05-08-2010, 02:19 PM
But you're still coming to Lee's spag-bol fest..............I've already booked the bouncy castle :hugesmile:

:dance: Ill bring the chick flicks

Peter Plunker
05-08-2010, 02:24 PM
Rachel was born in Torfaen, but she's originally from Cwmbran, and lives there. Helen is also from Cwmbran. It's the Cwmbranis ;)

Cwmbrn is in Torfaen.

Claymores
05-08-2010, 02:28 PM
:dance: Ill bring the chick flicks

Lee didn't let me away with the strippers booking (party planner Ian) so p0rrn flick on the other tele :elephant:

The Truth Is Out There!
06-08-2010, 08:32 PM
Not heard much pro-welsh fervour for the sinister minster

Wales not like him then?

:hugesmile:Would you? You have seen these haven't you! - That why you asked!:wavey:

Have you not seen his YouTube videos??? - search - Emerge Wales in Leeds The glory was on the wheelchair! Sloshfest prequel

This is why Dave is even on our screens - search– WelshShabba- door into the media – Why Dave is in there! Fast Forward to 7.16-7.33 on.

or go to http://bbthetruthisoutthere.blogspot.com/ and take your pick!

Thetruthaccording to me:)
15-08-2010, 12:48 PM
I've just watched his youtube video - how horrific!!!!
The man is vile!


And Blaenau not being in North Wales? Did you actually write that?

Shardlake
15-08-2010, 12:50 PM
Not heard much pro-welsh fervour for the sinister minster

Wales not like him then?

I'm Welsh, live about 40 mins away from where Dave does and no i'm not. Only a little part is because he's a Cardiff fan and i'm a Swansea fan :wink:

The Truth Is Out There!
15-08-2010, 12:57 PM
I'm Welsh, I'm proud that there's been a prominent Welsh housemate in there this year but I still dislike Dave as a housemate., if that makes sense.

Totally!
http://bbthetruthisoutthere.blogspot.com/

The Truth Is Out There!
15-08-2010, 12:59 PM
I'm Welsh, live about 40 mins away from where Dave does and no i'm not. Only a little part is because he's a Cardiff fan and i'm a Swansea fan :wink:

Love the name! - :nono: