Should Marijuana Be Legalised

[rick-roll]

Yes? No? Why not?

[Firewire]

No.

[rick-roll]

No.

why?

[GypsyGoth]

No, I tried it once and it had a very bad effect on me.

But maybe it could be prescribed by doctors.

[Firewire]

why?

It can have bad effects on people, it can make them 'unaware', as if drunk. It's addictive and is bad in general. Can't believe people take it as if not to get caught.

[Jack_]

In short - yes.

[rick-roll]

It can have bad effects on people, it can make them 'unaware', as if drunk. It's addictive and is bad in general. Can't believe people take it as if not to get caught.

Why not make alcohol and cigarettes illegal? They're addictive and bad in general.

[InOne]

This is an endless debate and will end up nowhere lol

[Tom4784]

Yes, I personally wouldn't use it but risks are no worse then smoking or drinking. It should have similar legal restrictions to alcohol though.

[Iceman]

Yes, I'm not getting into it, last time I got accused of telling teens to take it :rolleyes:

[rick-roll]

Yes, I personally wouldn't use it but risks are no worse then smoking or drinking. It should have similar legal restrictions to alcohol though.

The risks are no where near being close to smoking or drinking. Do you know how many people have died as a direct result of smoking cannabis? 0.

[Vicky.]

Yes.

It would be easier to regulate...plus could be good for the government, they could tax users as much as they tax smokers/drinkers.

[rick-roll]

Yes.

It would be easier to regulate...plus could be good for the government, they could tax users as much as they tax smokers/drinkers.

It would be almost impossible to regulate and control tax on marijuana as it is too easy to grow and cultivate in your own home. The government know this and so continue to lump weed in the same category as opiates claiming it's a killer drug. And if the government says it's true, it must be true.

[Vicky.]

Hmm...guess so.

Still, I see no reason at all for it not to be legal. Its the same as alcohol. Except does you less damage...and generally makes you tired and giggly instead of aggressive :p

[Tom4784]

The risks are no where near being close to smoking or drinking. Do you know how many people have died as a direct result of smoking cannabis? 0.

Yup, that's why I said no worse then Smoking or drinking.

[AfroMullet]

Im going to smoke it everyday regardless.

[oddballmisfitsFTW]

better solution would be to build special prisons that are purpose built for drug use

anyone ever caught dealing or using drugs is sent there and they stay there until they give up whichever drug they are addicted to

all drugs are legal in these prisons and are sold to the prisoners, the prisoners use vouchers as currency which they earn for doing work within the prison

this way the people who want to do drugs can do as much drugs as they want for rest of their life and dont affect anyone else on outside world

[BB_Eye]

It can have bad effects on people, it can make them 'unaware', as if drunk. It's addictive and is bad in general. Can't believe people take it as if not to get caught.

Alcohol makes you unaware... and literally drunk. It also makes people aggressive, depressed,, is at the centre of many domestic violence cases, etc. Should we ban that too?

[BB_Eye]

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[InOne]

There is a myth that it causes mental illness. But the fact is it triggers mental illness in people who smoke like 3 or more joints a day, and who were vunerable to mental illness anyway.

[rick-roll]

better solution would be to build special prisons that are purpose built for drug use

anyone ever caught dealing or using drugs is sent there and they stay there until they give up whichever drug they are addicted to

all drugs are legal in these prisons and are sold to the prisoners, the prisoners use vouchers as currency which they earn for doing work within the prison

this way the people who want to do drugs can do as much drugs as they want for rest of their life and dont affect anyone else on outside world

who will be paying to maintain these special prisons?

[oddballmisfitsFTW]

who will be paying to maintain these special prisons?


all prison cells will be converted to hold as many bunkbeds as they can fit within the cell

all facilites will be removed

prison staff will be reduced to the bare minimum and the staff will be relocated to other jobs eg armed forces, police or other chosen vocations

food will become bread and water, no cafeteria

basically the prison will become how a prison should be


also the government will take back ALL the money given to the banks from the tax payer and introduce a new "bankers tax" which will help to clear the national debt


so to sum it all up

banks will pay for it

and

prisons will cost a LOT LESS to run and maintain in the first place

[Patrick]

I couldn't give a sh*t tbh, but I don't get why Smoking is legal and that isn't.
Bullsh*t.

[oddballmisfitsFTW]

I couldn't give a sh*t tbh, but I don't get why Smoking is legal and that isn't.
Bullsh*t.

cigarettes are made by multi billion dollar corporations and government tax cigarettes

all other drugs come from drug dealers

[rick-roll]

cigarettes are made by multi billion dollar corporations and government tax cigarettes

all other drugs come from drug dealers

That doesn't really answer the question. Obviously cannabis is provided by drug dealers (or you grow it yourself) because the government won't legalise it. The question is why won't they legalise it. The answer is.....they can't profit from it like they can with cigarettes. It's one of the safest drugs out there, it's less addictive than cigarettes, you can't overdose unless you smoke like a third of your body weight, there is no solid scientific evidence that it causes psychological damage or mental illness, and there has not been one report of death directly linked to marijuana.

[Ramsay]

i dont wanna get in a debate ive gotten into maaaany
but yes it should it
if you actually go way back to when it became illegal it was because tobacco companys werent getting any business cus everyone was buying doob
so all the tobacco people used propaganda to make it illegal
lol
but yeah
legal woo

[BB_Eye]

i dont wanna get in a debate ive gotten into maaaany
but yes it should it
if you actually go way back to when it became illegal it was because tobacco companys werent getting any business cus everyone was buying doob
so all the tobacco people used propaganda to make it illegal
lol
but yeah
legal woo

So it's just a legal taboo really, which makes it an easy target for the right-wing press and the Conservative party.

[oddballmisfitsFTW]

I would much rather prefer them to legalise prostitution and make it free on the NHS to those with low income

:elephant:

[Shaun]

We should all just copy the Netherlands' laws, really. It's pretty much the most liberal and sensibly so country around.

[BOOSH]

Yes :love:

[Shasown]

Yeah it should be legalised and taxed at an appropriate level, but prior to that there should be independent scientific tests carried out to determine a safe/unsafe level for blood cabannoid levels for driving, operating machinery etc.

Whilst it is true that there has never been a proven death caused by marijuana usage, there have been indirect deaths caused by its use. Consequently prior to its legalisation there should also be a public awareness campaign to make everyone aware of its use, abuse, effects etc.

As for the argument about growing your own, yes anyone can however unless you set up an almost commercial set up, the end product wont be as good or as cheap as some of the street brands. Its the same sort of thing as making your own wines and beers.

[Ramsay]

basically if alchohol which makes you make a complete ass of yourself and gives you a **** load of damage is legal
then why isnt weed
its much safer and healthyer

[30stone]

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Steroids not bad :)


Either way i dont think it should be legalised.

[dudus]

rite, basically ganja is the healing of us nation but the illuminati and reptilians want it illegal, u know why? cos then the people dem drink themselfs silly and end up not caring wots going on
research showed tht bud can even help stop lung cancer, anyone who thinks it shud still be illegal is either a SHILL, OR JUST PLAIN DUMB, BRAIN DEAD

[dudus]

yeah, dont legalise it, keep controlling the people with a boot on there face! THE THING IS THO, i bet all yous lot get pissed every nite of the week, but if booze were discovered today it would be a class a drug, and youd probably call it EVIL AND SPAWN OF SATAN

[spitfire]

Yes.What right does the Government have to say what plant i can or can not smoke?What right does the Government have to say what mushroom i can or can not eat?

[InOne]

Yes.What right does the Government have to say what plant i can or can not smoke?What right does the Government have to say what mushroom i can or can not eat?

I just do it, don't think twice about it. Never had the police at my door...

[Shasown]

rite, basically ganja is the healing of us nation but the illuminati and reptilians want it illegal, u know why? cos then the people dem drink themselfs silly and end up not caring wots going on
research showed tht bud can even help stop lung cancer, anyone who thinks it shud still be illegal is either a SHILL, OR JUST PLAIN DUMB, BRAIN DEAD

And its the reptilians who want us all to drink ourselves silly and die of lung cancer?

[AfroMullet]

rite, basically ganja is the healing of us nation but the illuminati and reptilians want it illegal, u know why? cos then the people dem drink themselfs silly and end up not caring wots going on
research showed tht bud can even help stop lung cancer, anyone who thinks it shud still be illegal is either a SHILL, OR JUST PLAIN DUMB, BRAIN DEAD

Couldnt have said it better.

Jah Rastafari, praise be to the most high. Bless mi lion.

[InOne]

Only the middle class want weed banned :nono: We hate them

[Nick : )]

Yes ... even though I dont take drugs I think It's fine.. : )

[bananarama]

No. It should be a criminal offence to take any recreational drug. Drugs are for morons and idiots and those with a zero personality.....

Alcohol needs to be tightly regulated including a ban on shops and stores selling the poison liquids.....Binge drinkers should be jailed for life.......

[30stone]

yeah, dont legalise it, keep controlling the people with a boot on there face! THE THING IS THO, i bet all yous lot get pissed every nite of the week,

Nope.

Dont drink, dont smoke.

[dudus]

No. It should be a criminal offence to take any recreational drug. Drugs are for morons and idiots and those with a zero personality.....

Alcohol needs to be tightly regulated including a ban on shops and stores selling the poison liquids.....Binge drinkers should be jailed for life.......
why not just torture and kill every1 while your at it eh?

[spitfire]

Drugs are for morons and idiots and those with a zero personality.
Remember that next time you go to pop a paracetamol to get rid of a headache.

[MTVN]

Yes.What right does the Government have to say what plant i can or can not smoke?What right does the Government have to say what mushroom i can or can not eat?

So heroin should be legal as well?

[spitfire]

So heroin should be legal as well?
Yes.

[Shasown]

No. It should be a criminal offence to take any recreational drug. Drugs are for morons and idiots and those with a zero personality.....

Alcohol needs to be tightly regulated including a ban on shops and stores selling the poison liquids.....Binge drinkers should be jailed for life.......

Wow i bet you are a bundle of laughs to live with. You arent a quaker are you?

You know abstaining from all those lovely chemicals wont make you live forever, it will just seem like it.

[setanta]

I'm not sure anymore. Got a bday present of a load of it last week, and I'm telling you, I was fit for nothing for a the whole time. I suppose that says more about me than the drug really. Good fun though, and with the right health warnings and funding it could be controlled.

[MassiveTruck]

No

If you think it's expensive now it will be far more expensive after a shop keeper or the NHS adds all the overheads on top of it.

Secondly, there are numerous health risks associated with it.

Thirdly, it's another thing to keep the destitute and lower ends of society right there... all drugged up with no aspirations to improve their life.

Fourthly, on top of thirdly, it stops anybody from finding something better to do with their lives. It's an addiction for the immobile.

Fifth, there is too much pseudo-cultural attachments to Marijuana from Reggae to hedonism to liberalism to Rastafarianism that people think they can excuse themselves from anything because they have a certain lifestyle. It's just another way of dragging yourself down in that way.

Sixth, Some recent studies state it does call mental health problems from psychosis to mood disorders, schizophrenia is common too. A lot of pro-cannabis groups try and use older less established studies to state this isn't the case but causal relationships have been found.

Seventh, it is a political and economic tool. In Portugal, Holland and some states of the US, politicians use it to gain votes in the same way it was stated in the fifth comment, to associate themselves with vulnerable groups which inadvertently brings money into the common but makes the stupid voter believe what they are doing benefits them but just keeps the wrong people in power.

Eight, it's a drug that is globally used, because it grows easily, to traffic children, sex workers, slaves, drugs and also arms around the world. For the Taliban and Al Qaeda, it is the second drug of choice when acquiring arms. Eventually as they sell drugs around the middle east, this money trickles through to arms traffickers in the west and in the UK and therefore supplies this economy.

Ninth, with immigration increasing and related to the Eighth point, a lot of these problems have appeared in our cities and in some towns and villages of our country which leads to them financing the trafficking of not only drugs but slaves, cheap workers up and down the country.

Tenth, and an important one, it is used alongside the "war on drugs" narrative and by that liberal groups say the war on drugs will never stop... but that's not the point is it. How do you control a mass of people looking for ways to cope with life and the problems inherent in life. So the war on drugs isn't the issue, it's people problems which relates to numerous points above.

Eleventh, drug use is common in prisons and the reason most people go to prison. Legalising it will just raise this problems as it has done in Holland, Portugal and the US as people from Canada, Mexico, North Africa, Spain, Scandinavia and England, enter these countries to makes use of the lax laws in order to fund other crimes upon addicts. When people talk of a gateway drug, a) it is a gateway drug but b) it also finance and encourages the use of other drugs in communities that inherently increase crime in order to fund or encourage drug cultures.

Twelfth, Further from the mental health strain there are also physical problems in smoking Cannabis. Not only on the lungs and the heart but also the breakdown of DNA by the oxidisation of chemicals inside cells which combat disease. As this leads to problems for an individuals children as well as they grow up with a weaker immune system in line with the mental health problems it creates a time bomb for mental health issues with kids as well where the susceptibility to mood disorders and psychosis is rife amongst poorer less privileged communities.

Thirteenth, and related to the point about cultures and poorer communities, it is a widely used drug and encouraged between numerous groups. Even the upper classes smoke it as well... most of these drugs are skunk, grown through hydroponics and the ease of access has caused it to be passed around. The dependency on the drug is problematic as people who only see a glimmer of an individual who sells it doesn't see the inherent problems it brings on society and their family because it becomes the norm and behaviours become the norm. These studies on society go back to 19th Century and were pre-cursors to psycho-analysis.

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So no... it shouldn't be legalised but people who have got used to a life with it, unfortunately, would want it legalised and that's a shame in a world of so much opportunity and need for nothing, some of us fall fowl of drugs and even become advocates of it without even noticing how much it ruins our lives.

[MassiveTruck]

No

If you think it's expensive now it will be far more expensive after a shop keeper or the NHS adds all the overheads on top of it.

Secondly, there are numerous health risks associated with it.

Thirdly, it's another thing to keep the destitute and lower ends of society right there... all drugged up with no aspirations to improve their life.

Fourthly, on top of thirdly, it stops anybody from finding something better to do with their lives. It's an addiction for the immobile.

Fifth, there is too much pseudo-cultural attachments to Marijuana from Reggae to hedonism to liberalism to Rastafarianism that people think they can excuse themselves from anything because they have a certain lifestyle. It's just another way of dragging yourself down in that way.

Sixth, Some recent studies state it does call mental health problems from psychosis to mood disorders, schizophrenia is common too. A lot of pro-cannabis groups try and use older less established studies to state this isn't the case but causal relationships have been found.

Seventh, it is a political and economic tool. In Portugal, Holland and some states of the US, politicians use it to gain votes in the same way it was stated in the fifth comment, to associate themselves with vulnerable groups which inadvertently brings money into the common but makes the stupid voter believe what they are doing benefits them but just keeps the wrong people in power.

Eight, it's a drug that is globally used, because it grows easily, to traffic children, sex workers, slaves, drugs and also arms around the world. For the Taliban and Al Qaeda, it is the second drug of choice when acquiring arms. Eventually as they sell drugs around the middle east, this money trickles through to arms traffickers in the west and in the UK and therefore supplies this economy.

Ninth, with immigration increasing and related to the Eighth point, a lot of these problems have appeared in our cities and in some towns and villages of our country which leads to them financing the trafficking of not only drugs but slaves, cheap workers up and down the country.

Tenth, and an important one, it is used alongside the "war on drugs" narrative and by that liberal groups say the war on drugs will never stop... but that's not the point is it. How do you control a mass of people looking for ways to cope with life and the problems inherent in life. So the war on drugs isn't the issue, it's people problems which relates to numerous points above.

Eleventh, drug use is common in prisons and the reason most people go to prison. Legalising it will just raise this problems as it has done in Holland, Portugal and the US as people from Canada, Mexico, North Africa, Spain, Scandinavia and England, enter these countries to makes use of the lax laws in order to fund other crimes upon addicts. When people talk of a gateway drug, a) it is a gateway drug but b) it also finance and encourages the use of other drugs in communities that inherently increase crime in order to fund or encourage drug cultures.

Twelfth, Further from the mental health strain there are also physical problems in smoking Cannabis. Not only on the lungs and the heart but also the breakdown of DNA by the oxidisation of chemicals inside cells which combat disease. As this leads to problems for an individuals children as well as they grow up with a weaker immune system in line with the mental health problems it creates a time bomb for mental health issues with kids as well where the susceptibility to mood disorders and psychosis is rife amongst poorer less privileged communities.

Thirteenth, and related to the point about cultures and poorer communities, it is a widely used drug and encouraged between numerous groups. Even the upper classes smoke it as well... most of these drugs are skunk, grown through hydroponics and the ease of access has caused it to be passed around. The dependency on the drug is problematic as people who only see a glimmer of an individual who sells it doesn't see the inherent problems it brings on society and their family because it becomes the norm and behaviours become the norm. These studies on society go back to 19th Century and were pre-cursors to psycho-analysis.

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So no... it shouldn't be legalised but people who have got used to a life with it, unfortunately, would want it legalised and that's a shame in a world of so much opportunity and need for nothing, some of us fall fowl of drugs and even become advocates of it without even noticing how much it ruins our lives.

[AfroMullet]

MassiveTruck, your a tool.

[spitfire]

No

If you think it's expensive now it will be far more expensive after a shop keeper or the NHS adds all the overheads on top of it.

It wouldn't be long until Tesco do a buy one get one free offer.




Secondly, there are numerous health risks associated with it.


As there are with Fags,beer,deodorant etc.



Thirdly, it's another thing to keep the destitute and lower ends of society right there... all drugged up with no aspirations to improve their life.
People like George Michal,Jay Z,woody Harrison,Barbra Streisand etc


Fourthly, on top of thirdly, it stops anybody from finding something better to do with their lives. It's an addiction for the immobile.

Lets add Michael Phelps,Jennifer Capriati etc to the list.

Fifth, there is too much pseudo-cultural attachments to Marijuana from Reggae to hedonism to liberalism to Rastafarianism that people think they can excuse themselves from anything because they have a certain lifestyle. It's just another way of dragging yourself down in that way.
You're living in the 70's!

Sixth, Some recent studies state it does call mental health problems from psychosis to mood disorders, schizophrenia is common too. A lot of pro-cannabis groups try and use older less established studies to state this isn't the case but causal relationships have been found
And smoking can cause cancer,ban it?Burgers can cause obesity,ban them?


Seventh, it is a political and economic tool. In Portugal, Holland and some states of the US, politicians use it to gain votes in the same way it was stated in the fifth comment, to associate themselves with vulnerable groups which inadvertently brings money into the common but makes the stupid voter believe what they are doing benefits them but just keeps the wrong people in power.
As is Oil,ban it?


Eight, it's a drug that is globally used, because it grows easily, to traffic children, sex workers, slaves, drugs and also arms around the world. For the Taliban and Al Qaeda, it is the second drug of choice when acquiring arms. Eventually as they sell drugs around the middle east, this money trickles through to arms traffickers in the west and in the UK and therefore supplies this economy.

If it was legalised this would know longer happen.A bit like prohibition.


Ninth, with immigration increasing and related to the Eighth point, a lot of these problems have appeared in our cities and in some towns and villages of our country which leads to them financing the trafficking of not only drugs but slaves, cheap workers up and down the country.
See answer Eight.


Tenth, and an important one, it is used alongside the "war on drugs" narrative and by that liberal groups say the war on drugs will never stop... but that's not the point is it. How do you control a mass of people looking for ways to cope with life and the problems inherent in life. So the war on drugs isn't the issue, it's people problems which relates to numerous points above.
I don't really get your point maybe this can of fosters has gone to my head,ban it?


Eleventh, drug use is common in prisons and the reason most people go to prison. Legalising it will just raise this problems Don't be silly,if it was legalised you wouldn't get sent to prison!


Twelfth, Further from the mental health strain there are also physical problems in smoking Cannabis. Not only on the lungs and the heart but also the breakdown of DNA by the oxidisation of chemicals inside cells which combat disease. As this leads to problems for an individuals children as well as they grow up with a weaker immune system in line with the mental health problems it creates a time bomb for mental health issues with kids as well where the susceptibility to mood disorders and psychosis is rife amongst poorer less privileged communities.
Yawn,yawn.Think Alcohol and tobacco.


Thirteenth, and related to the point about cultures and poorer communities, it is a widely used drug and encouraged between numerous groups. Even the upper classes smoke it as well... most of these drugs are skunk, grown through hydroponics and the ease of access has caused it to be passed around. The dependency on the drug is problematic as people who only see a glimmer of an individual who sells it doesn't see the inherent problems it brings on society and their family because it becomes the norm and behaviours become the norm. These studies on society go back to 19th Century and were pre-cursors to psycho-analysis.
You're contradicting a few of your earlier comments with this.

I bid you goodnight.:xyxwave:

Now,Where is my bong?:dance:

[MassiveTruck]

It wouldn't be long until Tesco do a buy one get one free offer.

You're contradicting a few of your earlier comments with this.

I bid you goodnight.:xyxwave:

Now,Where is my bong?:dance:


You just don't grasp what is being said.

Everybody needs something to mother.

Mine isn't Cannabis.

Well done... you found a way to sedate yourself.

Is it really that special or is it all you have? :)

[AfroMullet]

And God said, Let the earth bring forth grass, the herb yielding seed, and the fruit tree yielding fruit after his kind, whose seed is in itself, upon the earth: and it was so.

Jah Rastafari.

[spitfire]

Is it really that special or is it all you have? :)
It's that special.Chill man.:cool:

[Melanie20]

Yes, it should totally be legalised; for the reasons expounded by Rick-Roll ^^^

[Lee.]

No, I don't think it should.. See Massive Truck's reasons for why I don't

Excellent post MT