Steve hasnt worked in 20 years and has 8 kids

[BLORN]

really

[Bluerang1]

Win.

[Jackie]

Yes he could do a sit down job at least.

[yousoboo!]

i don't mind supporting heros

[luvJJ]

He doesn't even try to hide the fact that he's a parasite. I agree, the true heroes are the hardworking taxpayers who fund Steve's lifestyle and the upbringing of his 8 kids.

[Julie10]

Gosh people in your position moan about nothing. His injuries didn't happen seperately they happened in one go. Losing a leg takes a long time to heal let alone both legs, injuries to his arm, eye and other injuries we don't know about.

Have the decency to not comment on something you know nothing about. Him having eight kids and not working isn't unusual today. And they are to different partners. Hes allowed to live his life as he please as long as he isn't hurting anyone.:nono:

[WOMBAI]

really heroic :rolleyes:
tax payers are the heroes here

How exactly are the taxpayers paying for him - as he gets an army pension!

The man also raises money for the injured soldiers charity - what is wrong with you!

[WOMBAI]

He doesn't even try to hide the fact that he's a parasite. I agree, the true heroes are the hardworking taxpayers who fund Steve's lifestyle and the upbringing of his 8 kids.

I'm getting really sick of people like you - he gets an army pension for being so severly injured whilst doing his job and does a lot of charity work - he is a shining example and a much better person than many who do bugger all despite being able bodied ie John Bloody James!

[fuzzylovin]

he also hasnt seen 3 of his kids for 6 years to his first wife, it was in the magazine, an interview with her.

[WOMBAI]

Yes he could do a sit down job at least.

He does a lot of charity work - is that not enough for you! Fgs - the man's life was ruined by that bomb, he was only 19 - can you not imagine what he has been through - what is the matter with some people! I think it is amazing that he has been able to go on and live such a normal life despite his horrific injuries.

If we didn't have men like him prepared to do such dangerous jobs - the world would be in a very sorry state and lot of the lazy people on here criticising - would be conscripted and forced to put their own lives on the line!

[WOMBAI]

he also hasnt seen 3 of his kids for 6 years to his first wife, it was in the magazine, an interview with her.

We don't know the circumstances of that - maybe she won't let him see them - maybe she is just a bitter ex!

[spitfire]

he also hasnt seen 3 of his kids for 6 years to his first wife, it was in the magazine, an interview with her.
http://i33.tinypic.com/xf441h.gif

Shock horror.:shocked:

[30stone]

Agree with Wombai 100%

People dont know the circumstances or truth's to his family life..
And people dont know the reasons behind him not working etc etc.

[cub]

Charity/voluntary work should be done in your own time. I agree (and so does the government actually) that disabilty should not get in the way of paid employment.

If he can be part of Big Brother and produce a litter of eight children, then he can go to work.

I do agree that he should be compensated for his severe injuries.

[JustKaz]

really heroic :rolleyes:
tax payers are the heroes here

ARe you Je-remy, .......are you Je-remy are you Jeremy in diguse!!!

[Livia]

He has a military pension. I'm really tired of saying this... can't all you people whining about him "not working and having eight kids" absorb the fact that he has a military pension? There are LOADS of threads about it already. Harping on with this same old tired, pathetic nonsense and is getting old. He lost both his legs and an eye in an explosion. Imagine that. Even if you don't think he's a good housemate... imagine the physical and mental trauma of the recovery. And the thing about being disabled is that accidents and tragedies happen all the time, leaving out the terrorist element for a moment, that could be any of us tomorrow. He deserves his pension. Let it go. If you're unhappy about it, contact the MOD and they'll tell you to let it go too...

[JustKaz]

He has a military pension. I'm really tired of saying this... can't all you people whining about him "not working and having eight kids" absorb the fact that he has a military pension? There are LOADS of threads about it already. Harping on with this same old tired, pathetic nonsense and is getting old. He lost both his legs and an eye in an explosion. Imagine that. Even if you don't think he's a good housemate... imagine the physical and mental trauma of the recovery. And the thing about being disabled is that accidents and tragedies happen all the time, leaving out the terrorist element for a moment, that could be any of us tomorrow. He deserves his pension. Let it go. If you're unhappy about it, contact the MOD and they'll tell you to let it go too...


Ignorance!! it seems that many can not imagine being in his situation, and I agree very much with what wombai says too. It just seems a waste of time explaining though. I'd be heartbroken if I was a member of his family reading some of the nasty comment about him.

[Mr XcX]

He is a loser!!!
hope he goes along with John James!!!

[WOMBAI]

can a military pension support 8 kids?

Instead of spreading spiteful gossip - why don't you do your homework and find out what a guy receiving such severe injuries at such a young age in the service of his country - was likely to have received from his employer! Facts - not nasty, wild assumptions!

The guy has been through hell - and all you want to do is belittle him and attempt to turn others against him - pathetic! And for a silly tv show - god some people simply lack the very basic common decencies we would all hope most people have!

[luvJJ]

can a military pension support 8 kids?

No. Generous state benefits funded by hard working people (disabled and otherwise) can, though.

[WOMBAI]

No. Generous state benefits funded by hard working people (disabled and otherwise) can, though.

What the hell do you know about his finances and how much army pension he gets!

No doubt your job, if you have one, will never result in you being blown up and losing both your legs and one of your eyes! His sacrifice is worth more than I expect he gets - after all losing your limbs is a far greater sacrifice than a few quid out of your salary every week!

[Saph]

whether we pay for him or not, it doesnt beat the fact that he does **** all in the house and NEEDS to be a part of that quad eviction!

[crit]

I dont particularly like what Ive seen of this guy. I dont think it would make much difference were he to have both his legs and 2 eyes, he'd still be the same person......someone I dont like.


However if anyone is entitled to benefits its him just for the mental trauma alone but I think he will have had a good pension from the army....and deserved every penny of it....

Did I mention I still dont like him one little bit. Horrible man.

[WOMBAI]

so he can take, take, take what he wants?
he volunteered to join the army
maybe he should have 16 kids
you can pay for them
btw how do you know so much about his army pension?

You should find out the facts before making such nasty allegations! Simples!

Without volunteers - young guys (you, if you are male) would be forced to do national service and could well find out first-hand what life has been like for Steve! Think on - before condeming him all the time!

[WOMBAI]

I dont particularly like what Ive seen of this guy. I dont think it would make much difference were he to have both his legs and 2 eyes, he'd still be the same person......someone I dont like.


However if anyone is entitled to benefits its him just for the mental trauma alone but I think he will have had a good pension from the army....and deserved every penny of it....

Did I mention I still dont like him one little bit. Horrible man.

A fair and reasonable response!

[toothpick]

he is a dirty fat perverted slob with 8 kids and no work for 20 years....he makes me vomit the fake war hero....he is representing the british army.

[WOMBAI]

so, 16 kids
you pay for them:xyxwave:

Don't need to - he does that himself!

[eviled2010]

He's a fekking scrounger.
These so called war heroes sign up, they have a choice. I'm sick of paying for them when something happens to them.

[toothpick]

he is a repulsive pig...feeding off the taxpayer for his 8 kids, 3 divorces...sitting around like a slob, perving over any woman, he makes me vomit....and he pretends he is a big war hero!?!?....is this the kind of animal in the british armed forces?

[toothpick]

He's a fekking scrounger.
These so called war heroes sign up, they have a choice. I'm sick of paying for them when something happens to them.

he is not a war hero....he is however a dirty, fat perverted slob...who was in the british armed forces.

[eye sea]

Steve does a lot of voluntary work, so at least he does something. Not like some benefit scroungers.

[eviled2010]

he is not a war hero....he is however a dirty, fat perverted slob...who was in the british armed forces.

Agreed, as I sad "so called war hero".
It's about time people wised up about the kind of people we have in the British Army.

[toothpick]

Agreed, as I sad "so called war hero".
It's about time people wised up about the kind of people we have in the British Army.

steve is actually a typical member, fat , lazy, boring, perverted, agressive slob

[spitfire]

and he pretends he is a big war hero!?!?
Do you have a link or source to show us him calling himself a hero?
Or are you just typing crap,as usual.

[Danielle1232]

I have one sister thank god.
That's alot eh kids,i dont want any. (::)
Hehe

[WOMBAI]

steve is actually a typical member, fat , lazy, boring, perverted, agressive slob

You're back then with your obsessive soldier hate! :sleep:

[toothpick]

Steve does a lot of voluntary work, so at least he does something. Not like some benefit scroungers.

shame he didnt volunteer some personality....he has bored everyone to tears lying on the sofa, eating, farting and perving.

[spitfire]

lying on the sofa, eating, farting and perving.
And none of the others have done any of those things,eh?

[toothpick]

The SUN and the DAILY MAIL are backing the lazy, fat perverted war hero slob...says it all really....the british armed forces must be so embarrassed at being represented by this obese dole scrounger.

[WOMBAI]

Agreed, as I sad "so called war hero".
It's about time people wised up about the kind of people we have in the British Army.

Brave men and women - who risk their lives to do their job! Most people are not brave enough to do that! Takes guts!

[WOMBAI]

The SUN and the DAILY MAIL are backing the lazy, fat perverted war hero slob...says it all really....the british armed forces must be so embarrassed at being represented by this obese dole scrounger.

You clearly feel very threatened by brave men like Steve - do they make you feel inadequate?

[toothpick]

Brave men and women - who risk their lives to do their job! Most people are not brave enough to do that! Takes guts!

Nothing brave about dropping bombs on afghan and iraqi women and children ...i call it cowardly sickness.

[BLORN]

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[Danielle1232]

Brave men and women - who risk their lives to do their job! Most people are not brave enough to do that! Takes guts!

My Big Cousin Lucas (: x

[toothpick]

My Big Cousin Lucas (: x

hahaha

[Danielle1232]

hahaha

What He's In The Army?

[GiRTh]

The usual lazy ill informed comments from the usual crew. Do you guys think that you personally are paying for this guy? If so that in itself shows up your ignorance.

[toothpick]

i just saw the fat pervert on the highlights show....sitting on the sofa..as usual...like a lazy slob...

[eviled2010]

Brave men and women - who risk their lives to do their job! Most people are not brave enough to do that! Takes guts!

Well that's your view, it is not a fact. It certainly isn't my view.
When they go up against an enemy that has the same fire power as them I might reconsider. Until then I doubt their bravery.

[toothpick]

Well that's your view, it is not a fact. It certainly isn't my view.
When they go up against an enemy that has the same fire power as them I might reconsider. Until then I doubt their bravery.

as i said earlier...bravery isnt blowing up iraqi/afghan women and children..its cowardly sickness.

[WOMBAI]

as i said earlier...bravery isnt blowing up iraqi/afghan women and children..its cowardly sickness.

So is your hatred of our soldiers! :sleep:

[spitfire]

and he pretends he is a big war hero!?!?
Again i ask you.....Do you have a link or source to show us him calling himself a hero?
Or are you just typing crap,as usual?

[GiRTh]

as i said earlier...bravery isnt blowing up iraqi/afghan women and children..its cowardly sickness.Thats a completely different subject and if you want to discuss it then open a thread.

[eviled2010]

So is your hatred of our soldiers! :sleep:

Classic non sequitur.

[spitfire]

as i said earlier...bravery isnt blowing up iraqi/afghan women and children..its cowardly sickness.
It's war,**** happens.

[cell]

If Steve was a woman would this debate happen? Say a disabled mother who stays at home with the kids and the husband works? Or just a able bodied mother who stays at home with the kids?

Steve is on disability pension not on social service (the dole, I'm not sure what the UK equivalent of Welfare is...)), he volunteers his time and stays home to watch the kids while his wife works. I'm pretty sure if he worked he would still get his pension anyway because he was disabled while working.

Also since he is now under lifelong medical treatment it is difficult to hold a normal job while having to go for medical checks fairly frequently.

He has 8 kids who are by 3 different woman, the ages between this kids are massive, some are adults now, he doesn't have 8 kids all with less then 10 years between them.

He volunteers does charity work for amputees/veterans, wheelchair basketball and other things, which is giving his time for free, and is flexible around his medical needs, I don't really see the reason to slate the guy.

There is no reason to criticize his personal life, but that being said he isn't a good HM...

[toothpick]

It's war,**** happens.

not for you...you are supporting war from the comfort of a computer at home....another armchair soldier.

[spitfire]

not for you...you are supporting war from the comfort of a computer at home....another armchair soldier.
Thanks for letting me know what i do.
Any chance of a link to my reply earlier?Thought not.:xyxwave:

[toothpick]

Classic non sequitur.

it was an utterly desparate response wasnt it....

[toothpick]

you didnt answer
can you tell me if he gets the same pension as everyone else?
or does he get more depending on how many kids he has
:cat:

she wont answer, her son is the army...she will support the fat perverted fake war hero slob come what may.....

[eviled2010]

It's always the same, so many willing to fight to the last drop of other people's blood.
Sickening.

[WOMBAI]

you didnt answer
can you tell me if he gets the same pension as everyone else?
or does he get more depending on how many kids he has
:cat:

You are the one making the nasty allegations - just make sure they are true before you spout them about! Otherwise they are extremely libellous! :sleep:

[spitfire]

it was an utterly desparate response wasnt it....
At least you had a reply!

Originally Posted by toothpick View Post
and he pretends he is a big war hero!?!?
Again i ask you.....Do you have a link or source to show us him calling himself a hero?
Or are you just typing crap,as usual?

Now can you supply a link,please.

[toothpick]

If Steve was a woman would this debate happen? Say a disabled mother who stays at home with the kids and the husband works? Or just a able bodied mother who stays at home with the kids?

Steve is on disability pension not on social service (the dole, I'm not sure what the UK equivalent of Welfare is...)), he volunteers his time and stays home to watch the kids while his wife works. I'm pretty sure if he worked he would still get his pension anyway because he was disabled while working.

Also since he is now under lifelong medical treatment it is difficult to hold a normal job while having to go for medical checks fairly frequently.

He has 8 kids who are by 3 different woman, the ages between this kids are massive, some are adults now, he doesn't have 8 kids all with less then 10 years between them.

He volunteers does charity work for amputees/veterans, wheelchair basketball and other things, which is giving his time for free, and is flexible around his medical needs, I don't really see the reason to slate the guy.

There is no reason to criticize his personal life, but that being said he isn't a good HM...

he is a dirty fat perverted slob pretending to be a war hero and has lived off that tag to bleed the taxpayer dry for 20 years....a typical useless, brainless ex british soldier too thick to have a career so he signed on for the army.

[spitfire]

pretending to be a war hero
Evidence please.

[toothpick]

It's always the same, so many willing to fight to the last drop of other people's blood.
Sickening.

from behind a comp screen sitting in a comfy warm home...you couldnt make it up!!!

[toothpick]

You are the one making the nasty allegations - just make sure they are true before you spout them about! Otherwise they are extremely libellous! :sleep:

dont try and threaten a forum member with libel because your own lies have been exposed...

[Danielle1232]

Thinking he will one is one! There's a video and he says him Corin and Dave will be in the final.

[BLORN]

ok lets

[toothpick]

what a disgusting fat waste of space...

[spitfire]

what a disgusting fat waste of space...
Have you got the link or are you a liar?:wavey:

[eviled2010]

what a disgusting fat waste of space...

Yep!

[Jamietwo]

whatever the truth about steve i hope his kids don't read this thread , it's a bit unpleasant

[billy123]

whatever the truth about steve i hope his kids don't read this thread , it's a bit unpleasant
its sickening and one of his kids (or someone that claimed to be) did post here for a few days but soon had to leave because of threads like this.
not a very good advert for tibb im afraid.

[Shasown]

Good to see the art of debate is still alive!

[toothpick]

its sickening and one of his kids (or someone that claimed to be) did post here for a few days but soon had to leave because of threads like this.
not a very good advert for tibb im afraid.

question that needs to be asked is whether that fat , disgusting perverted slob steve has been a good 'advert' for the british armed forces....

[Josy]

Deleted a few posts in here - Personal insults are not allowed!

[Josy]

Oh here we go...I have insulted no one

You insulted another member and that is against the rules.

[Shasown]

question that needs to be asked is whether that fat , disgusting perverted slob steve has been a good 'advert' for the british armed forces....

He hasnt been a member of the armed forces for over 20 years.

No not all the army are like him, most have two eyes and two legs.

[spitfire]

question that needs to be asked is whether that fat , disgusting perverted slob steve has been a good 'advert' for the british armed forces....
Was he an advert for The British Army?

[Vicky.]

Removed a load of off topic and insulting posts.

Personal grievances should be kept to PM, as I have said many times.

[Princessblue]

I find it incredibly sad that anyone even began a thread such as this.

Steve may not be a great housemate, he may not appeal to one and all, but that gives us no reason to judge. It was stated many times he is on medication and none of us have any idea what that medication can do to his body or mental health. All medication does something adverse.

It's a shame, that such ignorance is deemed publicly appropriate. The man is obviously in pain and more than likely will be for the entirety of his life and stats have proven those who have sustained injuries, limb losses, such as Steve has done and must maintain a rigourous schedule of medication have a shortened life span, the body simply can't endure, it takes extreme emotional and physical strength.

Sad to think there are people who are so selfish and insular as to not look beyond their own lives.

[ElProximo]

really heroic :rolleyes:
tax payers are the heroes here

Let me simplify it for you:

That bomb 'would' eventually be used to kill not just 1 tax-payer but even 8 tax-payers or 20 tax-payers would be PERMANENTLY eliminated from paying taxes and earning money for the UK.

Steve took that bomb instead.

Steve (who definitely pays loads of taxes) gets to be supplemented by those '10 living tax-payers' (thanks to him).

Now listen closely to the next part - it becomes a net gain for society and tax paying.
8 more tax-payers are now on their way to be making lifetimes of money and pay outrageous amounts of taxes.
Millions and millions of pounds of taxes.

In fact, Steve and his wife will produce enough tax money to pay for all your health care, retirement and the roads and... oh yeah.. the military that protects you.

So Steve is a massive PLUS for taxes you get to enjoy.
Also, Steve is a real man. (you don't know what that means).

[MrWong]

I find it incredibly sad that anyone even began a thread such as this.

Steve may not be a great housemate, he may not appeal to one and all, but that gives us no reason to judge. It was stated many times he is on medication and none of us have any idea what that medication can do to his body or mental health. All medication does something adverse.

It's a shame, that such ignorance is deemed publicly appropriate. The man is obviously in pain and more than likely will be for the entirety of his life and stats have proven those who have sustained injuries, limb losses, such as Steve has done and must maintain a rigourous schedule of medication have a shortened life span, the body simply can't endure, it takes extreme emotional and physical strength.

Sad to think there are people who are so selfish and insular as to not look beyond their own lives.

Good post. A diamond in the rough.

[MrWong]

so dave wont even be around to see his kids grow up :conf:

What the fluff has that got to do with what i posted?

Most of the posts in this thread are nasty, that paticular posters post wasn't. Hence the comment 'Diamond in the rough'.

[Thotmas]

have you seen the footage bit for steve's eviction number? It's like they want to get sympathy votes. Instead of showing him plunked on the couch how he has been for most of the season they show him walking which reminds me of his disability and makes me feel sorry for him. :(

[Shasown]

all im saying is can you pay for 8 children with 1 army pension
and does dave get extra money for every kid he has
and is that fair to society
:cat:

Same as anyone else in the UK Steve may be entitled to Child Tax Credits. He will also be entitled to claim Child Benefit, again same as anyone else in the UK who has kids.

If his wife works over 16 hours they may also be entitled to receive Working Tax Credits. Again their income will be assessed same as everyone elses.

Would you like him to be specifically excluded from receiving them? If so why?

Do you pay tax?

[StGeorge]

all im saying is can you pay for 8 children with 1 army pension
and does dave get extra money for every kid he has
and is that fair to society
:cat:

Blorn..may i suggest you do your own research into just how much these guys get, and how much goes on how many kids etc, before you spout off about a subject you know nothing about and bring in the forum leeches to suck the thread dry of any decency.

The mods should of scrubbed this whole thread rather than just the odd post. Its quite clear that its just an attack on the armed forces in general and not Steve. He has never served in Iraq or Afganistan so why bring it up unless its just an anti army post?

I support all our armed forces and their families with my hard earned money, and i for one am proud to do so.
8 kids?? Well after this long seperation, they will probably be knocking out another soon....and i hope its twins to make it a nice round No 10.
Good luck to him.:dance:

[StGeorge]

BTW

I have made it clear that i dont have any favs this year as there has not been any that really warrant my support.

But, thanks to the imbeciles on this thread....and even though i dont think he has done much....i now want Steve to win just to shove it big time up the Rsols of those that slag off our armed forces.

[Livia]

can a military pension support 8 kids?

There are MANY less deserving cases who milk money from the government. It is nothing to do with any of you how he makes his money. Why not the same outrage for everyone else on there who doesn't have a job? Maybe Steve wife works... and even if she doesn't it really is none of your business.

If you hate Steve as a housemate, fine. But all this criticism of him because of his background, his disability, his army service is completely out of order, and it's DEEPLY insulting to everyone on here who has served, or has someone serving in the army. I'm absolutely amazed these hysterical, ill-informed threads are allowed to stand and it says something that most of the people talking out of their backsides on here are on my ignore list. With a few more going on this morning.

I hope the more shallow people on this forum never, ever have to cope with any kind of disability; but if that tragedy was to happen, perhaps it would be poetic justic to have to put up with people sitting on a forum, probably not eventhemselves but being supported by their parents, pour scorn on them.

[Livia]

BTW

I have made it clear that i dont have any favs this year as there has not been any that really warrant my support.

But, thanks to the imbeciles on this thread....and even though i dont think he has done much....i now want Steve to win just to shove it big time up the Rsols of those that slag off our armed forces.

Hey St G. Doesn't get any better, does it. I've never seen so much ill-informed, childish rubbish since the last batch of poorly-constructed anti-Steve posts.

[Shasown]

ok say im not talking about steve
say im talking about anybody who has more and more kids but asks the government to pay for them
is this fair to the taxpayer?
are you a tax payer? because if you are then you are paying for someone elses kids:conf:

Then why not post a thread about that in the appropriate forum?

At the moment it still looks like you are having a pop at Steve over something you have very little knowledge about.

Yes I am a tax payer, and have been for over 30 years. Do you pay tax?

[StGeorge]

Hey St G. Doesn't get any better, does it. I've never seen so much ill-informed, childish rubbish since the last batch of poorly-constructed anti-Steve posts.

Unfortunately Livia there are some uneducated morons who will slag off anything just to get a rise in people.
I'm satisfied with the knowledge that our armed forces are doing a good job, and deserve more for their sacrifices. The decent and honest people of Iraq & Afganistan seem to be more grateful to our personnel than the low life found on this forum.

[Livia]

ok say im not talking about steve
say im talking about anybody who has more and more kids but asks the government to pay for them
is this fair to the taxpayer?
are you a tax payer? because if you are then you are paying for someone elses kids:conf:

Yes I am a taxpayer. Thing is, this is a Big Brother forum so a discussion about social funding is out of place here. If you're worried about the way the government spends you tax, assuming you pay tax, get in touch with your MP and voice your concerns. You don't know anything about Steve, how he funds his lifestyle, how much his military pension is or whether his wife (and ex-wife) works. Until you do, the argument that started this thread is meaningless.


My last post to you. Ta ta...

[StGeorge]

ok say im not talking about steve
say im talking about anybody who has more and more kids but asks the government to pay for them
is this fair to the taxpayer?
are you a tax payer? because if you are then you are paying for someone elses kids:conf:

When you put it like that, then my belief is there should be a limit to how many kids can be eligible for benefits etc....it should not be used as some do as a cash cow to finance their fags and booze mentality.

But when you start a thread like this:

Steve hasnt worked in 20 years and has 8 kids

really heroic
tax payers are the heroes here :

then i think its quite clear you are having a pop at Steve and the fact he was a soldier....otherwise why the hero bit?

[StGeorge]

you dont know how he funds his lifestyle either
but youre assuming hes not asking the tax payer to do it
and everything he does is above board
yes its about big brother but big brother is about the characters of the people in the house
which is what im discussing here:cat:

I think its you who are doing the assuming....all Livia has done is state the blindingly obvious....he gets a military pension. Duh.

The rest is just speculation but he does get a military pension....when are you numpties gonna get that into your heads HE GETS A MILITARY PENSION

There, is that loud enough?

[JustKaz]

you dont know how he funds his lifestyle either
but youre assuming hes not asking the tax payer to do it
and everything he does is above board
yes its about big brother but big brother is about the characters of the people in the house
which is what im discussing here:cat:

BLORN It beats me why you haven't made sense of Livia and, st Goeorge's post to name just two to understand you have got too deep into trying to justify your initial post. re read their posts

firstly this whole thread should have been deleted not just a few posts.

steve's wife works and possibly pays into a pension who know it is NONE of our business.

you think Steve thought, oh I'll join the army may get blown up, but hey I might be ok might survive and live off the pension (which HE would have paid into, albie it sadly for just a few years of his YOUNG life at that time????? You saying he should have though OH now I should NOT have children???

Yes he will get some sort of tax credit for the children he has under 16 and not in education, the amount? i think depend on wifes earning, as do WTC that she may or may NOT get. Just like thousands of other people working and his wife IS.

BLORIN you may not of realise what you were insigating when you started this thread.I hope not. Some of the comment are disgracful, and offensive

[StGeorge]

you dont know how he funds his lifestyle either
:

And as for his lifestyle????

He cant afford to buy the legs that will make his lifestyle more comfortable. I believe thats why he is in here to hopefully win the money to do so.

He maybe be able to buy a comfortable wheelchair so he doesnt get sores on his arse....he maybe able to buy the beer he needs to cheer himself up....i havent seen him light up so he doesnt need to finance his smoking lifestyle....and looking at his message from home, he doesnt seem to live in a house full of luxuries, and more just an ordinary place to accomodate his lifestyle.

But guess what Blorn....i havent the foggiest what his lifestyle is or how its financed other than his military pension and the usual benefits associated with a family that every other person is entitled to....including you.
I dont think half what's paid out is justified, but i do believe that people like Steve Gill deserve every bloody penny.

[moghirl]

I dont particularly like what Ive seen of this guy. I dont think it would make much difference were he to have both his legs and 2 eyes, he'd still be the same person......someone I dont like.


However if anyone is entitled to benefits its him just for the mental trauma alone but I think he will have had a good pension from the army....and deserved every penny of it....

Did I mention I still dont like him one little bit. Horrible man.

Agree with what you say that he's entitled to benefits for the awfu mentall trauma and horrific injuries .. but imo, HM's are reluctant to vote Steve out because of his disabilities .. were he able-bodied, he would've been voted out weeks ago .. the truth of the matter is .. Steve is boring .. legs or no legs .. he's not a particularly nice person.

[Shasown]

im not saying hes not entitled to benefits
but is he entitled to having as many kids as he wants at the taxpayers expense

Is anyone who has or has had kids entitled to? Lets face it pretty much everyone uses the NHS for antenatal checks, delivery and then post natal treatments, should this be done at tax payers expense?

Or would you prefer the government to legislate that certain income bands are allowed children and how many, if you dont earn anything, you cant have any kids, after reaching your level for your current income you are then permanently and irreversibly sterilised.

Interesting world you want us to live in eh?

[StGeorge]

im not saying hes not entitled to benefits
but is he entitled to having as many kids as he wants at the taxpayers expense

I have already given you my answer on this, but it still doesnt answer why you started the thread mentioning Hero?

The fact you are now trying to turn it into just a question of his 8 kids and taxpayers, doesnt detract from your original inference about his perceived hero status due to his service and disability.

But Blorn....if you really have a problem with anyone who has 8 kids on the taxpayer, then you need to write to your MP as someone has already pointed out.

While your at it, find out why childless couples who pay into the system for decades do not get help to have IVF in certain areas?

[Shasown]

just the bit without the sterilisation
but you got the rest right

Then perhaps you might prefer emigrating to China. They have a policy similar to that. Should suit you down to the ground.

Incidentally how would you impose regulating the limits you advocate, financial punishments on people already in borderline poverty situations, or perhaps penal servitude?

[Livia]

Of course, stringent birth control and compulsory sterilisation has already been tried. The Nazis were big on it in the 30s.

[StGeorge]

you can be as liberal as you like but paying people to have as many children as they like out the taxpayers pocket isnt sustainable

I would have to agree with Blorn on that one. Benefits should only cover two children IMO. And also families should be means tested so that families, for example, on 30k+ a year dont get any.

[BLORN]

I would have to agree with Blorn on that one. Benefits should only cover two children IMO. And also families should be means tested so that families, for example, on 30k+ a year dont get any.

finally:dance:

[LBB11]

Agree with Wombai 100%

People dont know the circumstances or truth's to his family life..
And people dont know the reasons behind him not working etc etc.

This

[Danielle1232]

I Wish My Mum was on benefits x

Aww Steves okayy x

[LBB11]

@ BLORN He will also be/maybe geting DLA from the dss. And when keeley went to his house he had no fanncie things in there and it was a small house, didnt even see a flatscreen tv which seems normall these days, and how do you know that his wife dosent work, we dont know his life so who are we to say how he should live it? Just my OP.

[StGeorge]

finally:dance:

I dont agree with your OP though sonny jim....:nono:

[StGeorge]

@ BLORN He will also be/maybe geting DLA from the dss. And when keeley went to his house he had no fanncie things in there and it was a small house, didnt even see a flatscreen tv which seems normall these days, and how do you know that his wife dosent work, we dont know his life so who are we to say how he should live it? Just my OP.

And a good one LBB11....i have mentioned that his lifestyle....which Blorn questions....doesnt seem to be filled with the trappings of a luxury loafer.

[boomoo]

Ignorance!! it seems that many can not imagine being in his situation, and I agree very much with what wombai says too. It just seems a waste of time explaining though. I'd be heartbroken if I was a member of his family reading some of the nasty comment about him.

Well there have been programmes on TV recently about soldiers with severe injuries. What they went through was horrific. It took most of them a year to stand up.

Steve has been treated as a BB housemate and that is what he wanted. Plus he would like a decent pair of legs. Not much to ask for.

[StGeorge]

BTW Blorn....Steve has just said on HL that with the winnings he would buy some decent legs....and....wait for it....PAY OFF HIS MORGAGE.

Doesnt sound like a benefits scrounger to me..otherwise surely the good old taxpayer would be paying his housing for him??