Regarding Dave (money, wheelchair video) etc

[as90]

Here is an explanation.

http://www.digitalspy.co.uk/forums/showthread.php?t=1324830&highlight=werewolf

[chuff me dizzy]

Here is an explanation.

http://www.digitalspy.co.uk/forums/showthread.php?t=1324830&highlight=werewolf

FFS :yuk:

[stoney]

dont expect the haters to listen to any reasonable explanations as90.

they have their narrow minds closed and have him convicted hung drawn and quatterred

If you go back a good few pages then you will see a few threads similar to the one from DS and the same haters ignoring thew facts instead being happier with their claims

[chuff me dizzy]

dont expect the haters to listen to any reasonable explanations as90.

they have their narrow minds closed and have him convicted hung drawn and quatterred

If you go back a good few pages then you will see a few threads similar to the one from DS and the same haters ignoring thew facts instead being happier with their claims

Because one fellow lunatic ,no doubt on the payroll sticks up for his leader it makes it fact ? how STUPID ?????????:crazy::laugh3:

[WOMBAI]

Here is an explanation.

http://www.digitalspy.co.uk/forums/showthread.php?t=1324830&highlight=werewolf

I saw that - perfectly logical explanation - but the haters won't want to listen to it in exactly the same way as they claim we don't listen to the vids!

[WOMBAI]

Because one fellow lunatic ,no doubt on the payroll sticks up for his leader it makes it fact ? how STUPID ?????????:crazy::laugh3:

No less factual - than anything his haters have come up with!

[flamingGalah!]

dont expect the haters to listen to any reasonable explanations as90.

they have their narrow minds closed and have him convicted hung drawn and quatterred

If you go back a good few pages then you will see a few threads similar to the one from DS and the same haters ignoring thew facts instead being happier with their claims

Are you on Dave's payroll?? Why oh why do people like you constantly have to defend every vile thing that he does?? Unbelievable... If there was a video of him drowning a baby you would probably have some logical explanation for it... :nono:

[flamingGalah!]

I saw that - perfectly logical explanation - but the haters won't want to listen to it in exactly the same way as they claim we don't listen to the vids!

ZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZ :sleep:

[stoney]

Because one fellow lunatic ,no doubt on the payroll sticks up for his leader it makes it fact ? how STUPID ?????????:crazy::laugh3:

after all why should we listen to facts from someone that actually knows them rather than some peoples' wild assumptions. That would never do:spin:.

[WOMBAI]

Are you on Dave's payroll?? Why oh why do people like you constantly have to defend every vile thing that he does?? Unbelievable... If there was a video of him drowning a baby you would probably have some logical explanation for it... :nono:

Oh please - anyone who defends Dave is accused of being on his payroll - sigh! Please come up with something original!

[chuff me dizzy]

Are you on Dave's payroll?? Why oh why do people like you constantly have to defend every vile thing that he does?? Unbelievable... If there was a video of him drowning a baby you would probably have some logical explanation for it... :nono:

It would his way of Christening it

[chuff me dizzy]

after all why should we listen to facts from someone that actually knows them rather than some peoples' wild assumptions. That would never do:spin:.

I would not believe what ANY of his staff said ,they have thier living to insure

[stoney]

Are you on Dave's payroll?? Why oh why do people like you constantly have to defend every vile thing that he does?? Unbelievable... If there was a video of him drowning a baby you would probably have some logical explanation for it... :nono:

galah.

i'll give you the same explaination i have a few times already.........back up the claims with a few facts and I'll gladly fooooooook off from any dave hate thread.

until then I'll enjoy questioning you lot and politely ask for some proof to back up your allegations thanks:xyxwave:

why does everyone that does not join the dave witch hunt have to be either on his payroll, family, friends, church simply cos our view does not sit with your narrow biased one:conf:

[chuff me dizzy]

galah.

i'll give you the same explaination i have a few times already.........back up the claims with a few facts and I'll gladly fooooooook off from any dave hate thread.

until then I'll enjoy questioning you lot and politely ask for some proof to back up your allegations thanks:xyxwave:

why does everyone that does not join the dave witch hunt have to be either on his payroll, family, friends, church simply cos our view does not sit with your narrow biased one:conf:

Because ANYONE who had a single moral would condemn him and all he stands for ,and people who do not condemn him are tarred with the same brush

[stoney]

I would not believe what ANY of his staff said ,they have thier living to insure

so basically you have a totally closed mind on the subject of dave, chuff, and are unwilling to see even a slight possibilty that he may not be the con man that you and your fellow proud haters believe him to be

[stoney]

Because ANYONE who had a single moral would condemn him and all he stands for ,and people who do not condemn him are tarred with the same brush

so now anyone not joining the dave witch hunt has no morals:bawling:...............and breathe:shocked:

I am happy that you came thru your own cancer fight, so see why you take it so seriously( but some [imo deluded] people do actually believe in faith healing and it is a comfort to them but try and let some of the hate go before it eats you up

it is ONLY a gameshow and most will be forgotten within minutes of the show being over

[flamingGalah!]

Oh please - anyone who defends Dave is accused of being on his payroll - sigh! Please come up with something original!

Why do you defend him so much then? You must be his Mum then... ;)

galah.

i'll give you the same explaination i have a few times already.........back up the claims with a few facts and I'll gladly fooooooook off from any dave hate thread.

until then I'll enjoy questioning you lot and politely ask for some proof to back up your allegations thanks:xyxwave:

why does everyone that does not join the dave witch hunt have to be either on his payroll, family, friends, church simply cos our view does not sit with your narrow biased one:conf:

As I have repeatedly told Dave's Mum, Womble, he stated on Live Feed around six weeks ago that he charges £30 for healing... Funnily enough I don't record all the bloody live feed, so how can I post the footage, it never made the highlights show...

I couldn't care less if you don't believe it, I know what I saw & heard... :xyxwave:

Can you prove Dave's claims that he can cure cancer? Grow new limbs? That he has seen a werewolf? That fairies visit him? That he has visited the sun?? NO?...:xyxwave:

[chuff me dizzy]

so basically you have a totally closed mind on the subject of dave, chuff, and are unwilling to see even a slight possibilty that he may not be the con man that you and your fellow proud haters believe him to be

Slammed shut !! Im proud to say

[WOMBAI]

Why do you defend him so much then? You must be his Mum then... ;)



As I have repeatedly told Dave's Mum, Womble, he stated on Live Feed around six weeks ago that he charges £30 for healing... Funnily enough I don't record all the bloody live feed, so how can I post the footage, it never made the highlights show...

I couldn't care less if you don't believe it, I know what I saw & heard... :xyxwave:

Can you prove Dave's claims that he can cure cancer? Grow new limbs? That he has seen a werewolf? That fairies visit him? That he has visited the sun?? NO?...:xyxwave:

Simply repeating yourself - you have made that accusation before - and I told you that not only am I not anywhere near old enough to be Dave's mother, I have never even been to Wales! Never heard of him until bb!

Like you I know what I have seen and heard - and, as JJ would say, don't give a rat's arse what you think!

[stoney]

Why do you defend him so much then? You must be his Mum then... ;)



As I have repeatedly told Dave's Mum, Womble, he stated on Live Feed around six weeks ago that he charges £30 for healing... Funnily enough I don't record all the bloody live feed, so how can I post the footage, it never made the highlights show...

I couldn't care less if you don't believe it, I know what I saw & heard... :xyxwave:

Can you prove Dave's claims that he can cure cancer? Grow new limbs? That he has seen a werewolf? That fairies visit him? That he has visited the sun?? NO?...:xyxwave:

I didnt see him saying any time that he charges for praying for healing.
I did see him say that they charged £30 for the "sloshfests" round about then tho.
His "friend" who may be a member of his church or not for all I know says that they dont. There has been no facts found or posted here showing that they do charge for faith healing or prayers, something that i would have thougth in the modern age they would include somewhere on the interwebby thing that soem people have scoured for info on him

I cant prove his claims and dont believe them meself but i dont believe a lot, if not all, claims that come from all religions. It still does not make every clergyman a conman tho.

I do tho know that some people do actually believe in faith healing and I am happy that it brings them some comfort whether I think its bunkum or not is irrelevant to me.

I judge Dave on his house time and see him as one of the better inmates this year and as such i want him to survive on Friday

[ElProximo]

David and Crowderites ought to be thankful for the masses of 'conman' accusers who have swarmed the forums boards.
Why?
Because they keep anyone from discussing and challenging the actual problems with this group and what kind of harm David's stunts may really be doing to the Church or to the perception of the unChurched for that matter.

These guys here stampeding topics with 'conman' accusations have done a great job keeping anyone from asking (or answering for) the real tough issues.

So has David.
"She wanted to talk to me about (God, Church) and I just said NO!" and that ended that.
David would RATHER have Housemates mocking him or questioning if he 'hates gays' or having some 'atheist' debate with him,
but,
he does not want and will not permit someone reasonably well-versed in the Bible to have pose some actual challenges.

Anyways,
Yes, I explained to people on here the wheelchair was to show he was so 'drunk in the spirit' that he could not even walk and they were NOT going about taking donations.

What I don't like about the wheelchair stunt is that (as seen here) does give people a false impression at it's face value.
Worse yet it give the impression that Jesuits may not only be drinking alcohol but harassing people in public,
and,
even worse is that once they get the idea they are embarrassed about Christianity or the Church and want to avoid it and keep their children from that,
and,
maybe the worst thing is that it will attract those who are infatuated with physical gratification (addicts, drunks) and it really tells them that Christianity is about the very same thing - sensual pleasure, physiological relief, having their brain tickled or numbed. Carnal pleasures.

[chuff me dizzy]

so now anyone not joining the dave witch hunt has no morals:bawling:...............and breathe:shocked:

I am happy that you came thru your own cancer fight, so see why you take it so seriously( but some [imo deluded] people do actually believe in faith healing and it is a comfort to them but try and let some of the hate go before it eats you up

it is ONLY a gameshow and most will be forgotten within minutes of the show being over

He wishes ,these videos have opened a MASSIVE can of worms that need outing

[Parmy]

He wishes ,these videos have opened a MASSIVE can of worms that need outing

ok, you've outed them here, can't you just **** off now and spread the word elsewhere?

[flamingGalah!]

David and Crowderites ought to be thankful for the masses of 'conman' accusers who have swarmed the forums boards.
Why?
Because they keep anyone from discussing and challenging the actual problems with this group and what kind of harm David's stunts may really be doing to the Church or to the perception of the unChurched for that matter.

These guys here stampeding topics with 'conman' accusations have done a great job keeping anyone from asking (or answering for) the real tough issues.

So has David.
"She wanted to talk to me about (God, Church) and I just said NO!" and that ended that.
David would RATHER have Housemates mocking him or questioning if he 'hates gays' or having some 'atheist' debate with him,
but,
he does not want and will not permit someone reasonably well-versed in the Bible to have pose some actual challenges.

Anyways,
Yes, I explained to people on here the wheelchair was to show he was so 'drunk in the spirit' that he could not even walk and they were NOT going about taking donations.

What I don't like about the wheelchair stunt is that (as seen here) does give people a false impression at it's face value.
Worse yet it give the impression that Jesuits may not only be drinking alcohol but harassing people in public,
and,
even worse is that once they get the idea they are embarrassed about Christianity or the Church and want to avoid it and keep their children from that,
and,
maybe the worst thing is that it will attract those who are infatuated with physical gratification (addicts, drunks) and it really tells them that Christianity is about the very same thing - sensual pleasure, physiological relief, having their brain tickled or numbed. Carnal pleasures.

You know I try to read your posts, but I end up unable to make it past the first sentence... :sleep:

I really don't understand if you are pro or anti Dave & I really don't think you know either...

[chuff me dizzy]

ok, you've outed them here, can't you just **** off now and spread the word elsewhere?

You wish

[stoney]

He wishes ,these videos have opened a MASSIVE can of worms that need outing

were they not on for quite a while before BB and have been there for the 10 weeks we have had:conf:


If anything was usable against him do you really think the tabliods would not have used them. After all utube is a public domain

[The Truth Is Out There!]

Here is an explanation.

http://www.digitalspy.co.uk/forums/showthread.php?t=1324830&highlight=werewolf

"Blissed off" is Dave Hartland on BB's Dave - comments page - he has been bested in every 'Justification arguement' he has posted their and on other 'Religios Forums' bless him! He reminds me of someone on here!!!

[stoney]

You know I try to read your posts, but I end up unable to make it past the first sentence... :sleep:

I really don't understand if you are pro or anti Dave & I really don't think you know either...

he's anti but from a slightly different angle than yourself:wavey:

[boomoo]

No less factual - than anything his haters have come up with!

Jesus never once pretended to be disabled.

His message was simple. No person is born without a gift for something. Go out and help others.

[chuff me dizzy]

were they not on for quite a while before BB and have been there for the 10 weeks we have had:conf:


If anything was usable against him do you really think the tabliods would not have used them. After all utube is a public domain

They could have been on there years,but NOW hes been in bb and people on here have found them ,and by some coinicidnce they are now being removed? i wonder why ?

[stoney]

They could have been on there years,but NOW hes been in bb and people on here have found them ,and by some coinicidnce they are now being removed? i wonder why ?

you could be right

altho it could be simply cos of all the abusive comments that sort of defeated their purpose of being there i think


No doubt if you are correct we will see something in the tabloids about it by the end of next week , or this week if the gbp are silly

edit: they have also been kicking around the forums for most of the time Dave has been in too

[Peter Plunker]

"Blissed off" is Dave Hartland on BB's Dave - comments page - he has been bested in every 'Justification arguement' he has posted their and on other 'Religios Forums' bless him! He reminds me of someone on here!!!

'Religios' forums, nope haven't joined any of them, and 'bested' what are you talking about, do you think I'm trying to gain internet cool points or something?

I'm not trying to justify anything, I've no need to, I'm just dealing with facts, something that certain members on here ignore as it doesn't fit in with their opinion.

[chuff me dizzy]

you could be right

altho it could be simply cos of all the abusive comments that sort of defeated their purpose of being there i think


No doubt if you are correct we will see something in the tabloids about it by the end of next week , or this week if the gbp are silly

edit: they have also been kicking around the forums for most of the time Dave has been in too
Comments has been stopped on them when i looked at them and removed so thats nothing to do with anything

[ElProximo]

I really don't understand if you are pro or anti Dave & I really don't think you know either...

Right. It's because you see things that way. You choose a side and then, truth be damned, you attack the 'enemy' with anything that 'hurts them'.
You should get into American politics.

In fact, I am not 'anti-anyone'. I can separate the human being from the error of their ways.
I would like to think I care about David (the person, the man, the father) and that is all the more reason I hate the bad ideas and bad behavior,
but,
Never mind David. I am also concerned about other decent human beings who are duped into this cult.

But unlike you I want to solve the actual problem. You do that by identifying it correctly.
Then you focus on that 'actual problem' alone and don't waste time finding fake problems.

I'm sure all this sounds 'weird and complicated' to you. That's too bad.

[flamingGalah!]

Right. It's because you see things that way. You choose a side and then, truth be damned, you attack the 'enemy' with anything that 'hurts them'.
You should get into American politics.

In fact, I am not 'anti-anyone'. I can separate the human being from the error of their ways.
I would like to think I care about David (the person, the man, the father) and that is all the more reason I hate the bad ideas and bad behavior,
but,
Never mind David. I am also concerned about other decent human beings who are duped into this cult.

But unlike you I want to solve the actual problem. You do that by identifying it correctly.
Then you focus on that 'actual problem' alone and don't waste time finding fake problems.

I'm sure all this sounds 'weird and complicated' to you. That's too bad.

Try again, this time making sense, thanks :xyxwave:

[stoney]

Comments has been stopped on them when i looked at them and removed so thats nothing to do with anything

then we will se next week, after tuesday whether there was anything usable from them then.

Altho I cant understand why the tabloid media have not botherred to even mention it:conf:

[Peter Plunker]

There's that word again, cult. Show me the cult, show me the membership lists, the recruitment process, the way in which it damages people.

Me and Dave have pratically lived in eachother's pockets for ten years, there is no cult. If there was I would disown him immediately, but there isn't.

[Shasown]

You know I try to read your posts, but I end up unable to make it past the first sentence... :sleep:

I really don't understand if you are pro or anti Dave & I really don't think you know either...

Thats a great pity, I would try and read it again if I were you. It is a good post and quite informative as well as accurate. You could learn a lot.

[flamingGalah!]

Thats a great pity, I would try and read it again if I were you. It is a good post and quite informative as well as accurate. You could learn a lot.

No thanks, boring drivel does nothing for me I'm afraid, but so pleased that you loved it so much *gush* :)

I know enough about what I want to know about & don't appreciate being preached to by religious types... :xyxwave:

[flamingGalah!]

There's that word again, cult. Show me the cult, show me the membership lists, the recruitment process, the way in which it damages people.

Me and Dave have pratically lived in eachother's pockets for ten years, there is no cult. If there was I would disown him immediately, but there isn't.

Members of cults usually are brainwashed by their leaders... :xyxwave:

And as you have lived in his pockets did you visit the sun too? Was it warm?

[chuff me dizzy]

No thanks, boring drivel does nothing for me I'm afraid, but so pleased that you loved it so much *gush* :)

I know enough about what I want to know about & don't appreciate being preached to by religious types... :xyxwave:

Me too galah ,bores the pants off me :sleep::sleep::sleep:

[Patricia4]

Im in a wheelchair so people like him that can walk make me sick he is scum.

[ElProximo]

Im in a wheelchair so people like him that can walk make me sick he is scum.

You need to understand that he did not believe he could walk at that time. The wheelchair was keeping him from falling down and injuring himself and being immobile.

[flamingGalah!]

You need to understand that he did not believe he could walk at that time. The wheelchair was keeping him from falling down and injuring himself and being immobile.

LOL!!!!!! :joker: :joker: :joker: :joker:

Don't be so ridiculous... How on earth would you know that he did not believe he could walk?! What utter nonsense... The wheelchair was nothing more than a sick prop... You really really do make me chuckle elpoxymo... :joker: