john james HAS Ruined this series

[elliebrew]

OK its gotten to a stage were i literally CANNOT watch the show now!1

Johns just THE most horrific housemate weve had this series.

Hes completely ruined it for me!!

POOR Corin sat everyone down and said she doesnt think people should argue etc in the final few days they should try and have fun!

John said that she should be expected to do things she doesnt want to do in tasks!!

HYPOCRITE of the highest order

He refused point blank to stay in the task room with Rachael during the chasrles dickens task!!

His double standards are astounding!!

Now hes roped in Sam and Dave to try and break Corin!!!

AGHHH

[Jack_]

His gameplanning and canniving activities are great - it's a game and it makes things interesting. Being 'nice' isn't exactly enthralling TV.

[Julie10]

His gameplanning and canniving activities are great - it's a game and it makes things interesting. Being 'nice' isn't exactly enthralling TV.

Being nasty isn't either!

[30stone]

Series would have fallen on it ass without the arguments john has caused.

[Jack_]

Being nasty isn't either!

It's far better than watching the likes of Steve do **** all.

It's a GAME - they should be forced to step on each other, manipulate, be nasty etc.

Only in this pathetic moral country would they be condemned for doing so :sleep:

[WOMBAI]

And neither should bb be nice - they should of chucked JJ out when he refused to do that task - right then and there, in his dress-up outfit without any recognition whatsoever!

[Stevep]

His gameplanning and canniving activities are great - it's a game and it makes things interesting. Being 'nice' isn't exactly enthralling TV.

Your reading into things too much. There is no game plan and there are no canniving activities, all there is is malicious bitching.

[Jack_]

Series would have fallen on it ass without the arguments john has caused.

Correct.

[Sunday]

LOL, No he hasnt, he has made it interesting, life isnt all nice and fluffy cotton wool.
I bet you were glued to the tv when he kicked off.

[BigBrotherfan4ever]

I would rather the HM's weren't arguing, i dont mind them winding each other up, this constant arguing is not my idea of entertainment, to be honest.

[Jack_]

Your reading into things too much. There is no game plan and there are no canniving activities, all there is is malicious bitching.

No, his plan is to convince people that other housemates [he sees as competition] are fake and to show them up - as well as latching onto other housemates who he thinks are popular [Josie] in order to try and make him popular.

[ange7]

JJ was a great part of the series and was a big character in the house. He was frank and in peoples faces without being the annoying twit Sam was.

[Beso]

He is far easier to watch than corin.. he is also by a mile, more entertaining.

[Stevep]

JJ was a great part of the series and was a big character in the house. He was frank and in peoples faces without being the annoying twit Sam was.

Did you like kiever? And if not why not?

[ange7]

No, his plan is to convince people that other housemates [he sees as competition] are fake and to show them up - as well as latching onto other housemates who he thinks are popular [Josie] in order to try and make him popular.
problem you have is that Mario and Corin ARE desperate to win. They know he thinks that because he has brought it up loads of times with them. That was great to watch....to hear JJ say what I was thinking as I watched them.

[Stevep]

He is far easier to watch than corin.. he is also by a mile, more entertaining.

Sunshine was entertaining, Ben was entertaining. You dont need to be an utter bitter twat to be entertaining. John was entertaining upto a few weeks ago, since then all he does is constantly bitch and moan. Thats not entertainment, thats irritating.

[ange7]

Did you like kiever? And if not why not?
Yeah I did ... Josie did her in by going around the house for 2 days knifing her while to her face she was all "oh hey, hi!!"

[Tom4784]

Love him or loathe him, JJ1's been an important part of this series, all the people saying that they want him out along with the other characters will be the first to complain about it being boring. Mark my words, happens every year.

I don't like the man at all but in shows like this conflict IS needed otherwise you end up with BB4. If you don't want conflict then you're watching the wrong show and I'd recommend Bargain Hunt or Antiques Roadshow instead.

[Julie10]

It's far better than watching the likes of Steve do **** all.

It's a GAME - they should be forced to step on each other, manipulate, be nasty etc.

Only in this pathetic moral country would they be condemned for doing so :sleep:


He should have a nice side to him as well as a nasty side but its all nasty with him so it isn't nice to watch. You don't see others getting away with it so why should he?

[30stone]

I disagree that arguments are the most interesting points... but i have to say some of the best episodes have been because of john arguing or not..

[Jack_]

He should have a nice side to him as well as a nasty side but its all nasty with him so it isn't nice to watch. You don't see others getting away with it so why should he?

But they SHOULD get away with it - people shouldn't judge them as PEOPLE they should judge them as HOUSEMATES. And nasty, malicious, gameplaying, canniving people MAKE the show - i.e great housemates.

I can guarantee if it was a house full of Steve's no one would watch. Fact is, people just love to hate people. And then want them out and then complain it's dull :sleep:

[BlackOrWhite]

Nobody's forcing you to watch.

Series would have fallen on it ass without the arguments john has caused.

Agreed.

[Stevep]

Yeah I did ... Josie did her in by going around the house for 2 days knifing her while to her face she was all "oh hey, hi!!"

ah ok! lol tactic backfired!

Well what i was gonna say was why do many john james fans see Johns bitching as being 'real' yet see kievers moans as her being 'bitchy'.

[elliebrew]

Love him or loathe him, JJ1's been an important part of this series, all the people saying that they want him out along with the other characters will be the first to complain about it being boring. Mark my words, happens every year.

I don't like the man at all but in shows like this conflict IS needed otherwise you end up with BB4. If you don't want conflict then you're watching the wrong show and I'd recommend Bargain Hunt or Antiques Roadshow instead.

there will be 3 days lft till the final after friday...hes been kept in till the final week so people could be entertained....tjhe last s days can be boring i dont care i just want him out now!!! Hes come far enough

[ange7]

He should have a nice side to him as well as a nasty side but its all nasty with him so it isn't nice to watch. You don't see others getting away with it so why should he?
"You don't see others getting away with it so why should he?"
get ready for a shock....!
because not everyone thinks EXACTLY like you do.

[elliebrew]

r you going to JJs eviction this week ange....you can tell him how much you love him :) and how much you fought his corner...

Not that he' 'give a rip'

prob wont even thank you

[Shardlake]

The only thing thats spoilt it for me is this 'romance' with John James and Josie.

I really do not want to sit watching and listening to the two of them be all luvey duvey and kissing and cuddling. It makes me want to vomit.

They should not allow them into the beds during the day

[Tom4784]

there will be 3 days lft till the final after friday...hes been kept in till the final week so people could be entertained....tjhe last s days can be boring i dont care i just want him out now!!! Hes come far enough

But chances are this is the last proper BB final we'll ever have, don't you want to it be...you know....watchable? Corin's gonna be danger now so if She, Sam and John goes then the final will be full of bores and we'll have a predictable result.

I just want a watchable final, because at the moment I'm just gonna save myself 2 hours of bother and just fastforward to the UBB launch.

[Beso]

Sunshine was entertaining, Ben was entertaining. You dont need to be an utter bitter twat to be entertaining. John was entertaining upto a few weeks ago, since then all he does is constantly bitch and moan. Thats not entertainment, thats irritating.

9 weeks of entertainment isn't a bad haul from a housemate..makes him worthy winners material in my humble opinion.


It is by far a lot better than some sad act repeated daily in the diary room by a desperate witch.

[smudgie]

I don't think JJames has ruined the series.
I do not like his personality, but we need varied personalities to make a show. The way he acts brings about other people's reactions that we may not have seen otherwise. The same as I am not fussed on Dave, but he is an integral part of the show, as are the bores.
Having people with certain traits may change the course of the series, but not ruin it.:hugesmile:






Now to get JJames and Dave out.:bigsmile:

[elliebrew]

people dont dislike corin enough to vote her out....shell be fine :)

[Beso]

Just imagine if he hadn't been in the house. Tumbleweed anyone?

[ange7]

ah ok! lol tactic backfired!

Well what i was gonna say was why do many john james fans see Johns bitching as being 'real' yet see kievers moans as her being 'bitchy'.
lol...we aren't all he same.
On JJ bitching.
When JJ bitches he says stuff that he's already said to the person who he's talking about. He'll bitch about Corin being fake but Corin already knows he thinks that since he said it to her loads of times. JJ has bitched that Mario is a super fan and making it far means the world to him. Mario knows what JJ thinks again because JJ is frank and upfront with that stuff and has said it to his face. Others in the house bitch and moan too but they are less upfront when they are speaking to that person.

[Tom4784]

people dont dislike corin enough to vote her out....shell be fine :)

Don't be so sure, she has an argument tonight and she's a character. I'd be a bit more worried if I were you.

[ange7]

people dont dislike corin enough to vote her out....shell be fine :)
wouldn't be so sure of that.

[Stevep]

Just imagine if he hadn't been in the house. Tumbleweed anyone?

Other stories will have developed. Nathan would of still been in for a start. After john james getting the whole house and public against her Rachal may not have had been evicted in week one, she may have proved to be a decent character.

The house would have been totaly different, its not as simple as 'if he werent in the house it would of been ****e'.

[rusticgal]

Quite the opposite....if the only point you make is him failing to do the dickens thing...thats pathetic.He sacrificed 50.00 towards the shopping budget.... had it been the whole budget he might have done it.... Rachel simply wasnt worth 50.00.

John James has been totally upfront...said things many are too scared to voice...unless its been behind peoples backs.He has discussed people like we do on this forum...
He has made this series.... and deserves to win.

[Julie10]

"You don't see others getting away with it so why should he?"
get ready for a shock....!
because not everyone thinks EXACTLY like you do.

Don't be so stupid! I am saying the whole thing with him smacks of double standards. Nearly everyone moans as soon as someone as an argumentative streak and bays for their blood and calls them all the names under the sun, but its entertaining when its someone they like.

[Angus]

Your reading into things too much. There is no game plan and there are no canniving activities, all there is is malicious bitching.

Well said. JJ1 is NOT gameplaying with Corin, he just wants revenge for her having the audacity to talk back to him - her a mere mortal woman, to HIM, the great John James!:rolleyes: I'm not a Corin fan by any means, but rather she won this than John James or his gross thumbsucking, nosepicking, duvet partner.

[Sunday]

And I would say, he has been in a long time and not been evicted, so he must be well liked by most the voters.

[elliebrew]

Quite the opposite....if the only point you make is him failing to do the dickens thing...thats pathetic.He sacrificed 50.00 towards the shopping budget.... had it been the whole budget he might have done it.... Rachel simply wasnt worth 50.00.

John James has been totally upfront...said things many are too scared to voice...unless its been behind peoples backs.He has discussed people like we do on this forum...
He has made this series.... and deserves to win.

well hes not gonna, theres your winner.......right there........................vvvvvvvv

[Beso]

Other stories will have developed. Nathan would of still been in for a start. After john james getting the whole house and public against her Rachal may not have had been evicted in week one, she may have proved to be a decent character.

The house would have been totaly different, its not as simple as 'if he werent in the house it would of been ****e'.

mighta mighta...it wasn't though, and john james has been this years bb by a mile..most deserving winner? hell no, but deserves to be in the final for being the big draw this year.

[NettoSuperstar!]

John James has been one of the best HM's of the series, I generally agree with a lot of what he says about Corin, Mario etc

[Tom4784]

Other stories will have developed. Nathan would of still been in for a start. After john james getting the whole house and public against her Rachal may not have had been evicted in week one, she may have proved to be a decent character.

The house would have been totaly different, its not as simple as 'if he werent in the house it would of been ****e'.

Rachael's a decent point but if Nathan was interesting they'd have shown it. They generally love that type of character, If John James wasn't in that house Nathan would have still been a none entity in the house because he wasn't interesting. He basically never featured until the week he got evicted.

[Tom4784]

well hes not gonna, theres your winner.......right there........................vvvvvvvv

No, it's going to be Josie. Haven't you got BB's memo?

[ange7]

Don't be so stupid! I am saying the whole thing with him smacks of double standards. Nearly everyone moans as soon as someone as an argumentative streak and bays for their blood and calls them all the names under the sun, but its entertaining when its someone they like.
lol...rude.
Think of it another way.
say you dislike a hm, eg I think Corin is fake and desperate. Then JJ says that to her face, or tells Mario that he is a bb fanatic. It's entertaining to hear JJ say what I was thinking and see how they handle it. I don't agree that EVERYONE moans about argumentative hms... so no double standards there.

[Julesuk]

Series would have fallen on it ass without the arguments john has caused.

Spot on - I dont get what viewers want from this programme sometimes - do they want to watch a group of people sat on a settee discussing the state of the economy.

If John James (love or hate him) had not been in this series it would have been dire - you only have to look at the amount of threads about him. He deserves to be there till the final and would be if it was vote to save - but they cant do that because of giving Josie the free pass.

[Stevep]

mighta mighta...it wasn't though, and john james has been this years bb by a mile..most deserving winner? hell no, but deserves to be in the final for being the big draw this year.

Not mighta, would definitely of been different.

And i agree, he deserves to be in the final or close to the final, just dont think he should win it.

I can see both sides of the argument though. Totally understand why people see him as being entertaining and therefore a deserved winner but can also understand people seeing him be a total wanker and wanting him out double time.

[Stevep]

lol...we aren't all he same.
On JJ bitching.
When JJ bitches he says stuff that he's already said to the person who he's talking about. He'll bitch about Corin being fake but Corin already knows he thinks that since he said it to her loads of times. JJ has bitched that Mario is a super fan and making it far means the world to him. Mario knows what JJ thinks again because JJ is frank and upfront with that stuff and has said it to his face. Others in the house bitch and moan too but they are less upfront when they are speaking to that person.

fair enough : )

But just to add, I agree he says his opinions to peoples faces (some of the time) which is credit to him, but its just the sheer volume of bitching that annoys me.

[Julesuk]

Quite the opposite....if the only point you make is him failing to do the dickens thing...thats pathetic.He sacrificed 50.00 towards the shopping budget.... had it been the whole budget he might have done it.... Rachel simply wasnt worth 50.00.

John James has been totally upfront...said things many are too scared to voice...unless its been behind peoples backs.He has discussed people like we do on this forum...
He has made this series.... and deserves to win.

I dont know if he should win but definitely agree with the rest and should be there in the final.

[Beso]

Not mighta, would definitely of been different.

And i agree, he deserves to be in the final or close to the final, just dont think he should win it.

I can see both sides of the argument though. Totally understand why people see him as being entertaining and therefore a deserved winner but can also understand people seeing him be a total wanker and wanting him out double time.

YEP.

He's likable enough to win this thing if i voted on finals night he would probably get a vote from me along with dave and josie.

I think the main reason that I find him interesting to watch is that everything I have said about corin, he has had the same view.

[Tom4784]

I wouldn't want him to win but he deserves a solid 4th place.

[opalgem]

Hate John James he as only started perving on Josie after she got free pass

[Stevep]

Rachael's a decent point but if Nathan was interesting they'd have shown it. They generally love that type of character, If John James wasn't in that house Nathan would have still been a none entity in the house because he wasn't interesting. He basically never featured until the week he got evicted.

Yeh possibly, i agree Nathan was a bit of a bore but i do think he had another side to him which was bound to come out sooner or later if the right buttons were pushed. As you say, the week he got evicted he became a little more confrontational and was starting to say his piece i.e attacking shabby. I think he quite possibly would of developed into a better character. But then again i could just be chatting ****e and he would of gone back into his shell and remained a bore.

[stewart64]

He has added interest, particularly being the nastiest hm in the history of BB. The series will only be ruined if he gets away with the Corin hate fest and wins the series. What he has put her through is the closest to evil i have ever seen.

[Patrick]

Laughable.

The producers ruined this series.

[Jase.]

He's RUINED Josie. If it wasn't for him, it'd be a whole different story.

Awful, awful housemate.

[Patrick]

I wouldn't want him to win but he deserves a solid 4th place.

Well said.

[stewart64]

He's RUINED Josie. If it wasn't for him, it'd be a whole different story.

Awful, awful housemate.

Don't think he can survive. He must be in the top four for eviction votes. It will make the series if he gets his just desserts.

[Patrick]

Don't think he can survive. He must be in the top four for eviction votes. It will make the series if he gets his just desserts.

Make the series?

Jesus you people get more and more deluded each day.

[rgs712]

John James has made this series.
I think what he says about corin and mario is mainly true.
He says what i'm thinking. Corin is fake i can't believe she is one of the favourites to win. She went in for one reason TO WIN. Jo found out that the hard way. Mario isnt fake he just wants to win. At least hes kinda bein himself.
If the vote was to win it would be much better. Because even though jjames is favourite to be evicted he would get more votes to win than jj+andrew+dave+steve+ prob mario.
JJames has made this series not ruined it.

[walter]

him and sam have made this BB. get a ****ing life

[Julesuk]

Hate John James he as only started perving on Josie after she got free pass

Biggest load of twaddle they have been getting it on for weeks.

[sosadbbend]

OK its gotten to a stage were i literally CANNOT watch the show now!1

Johns just THE most horrific housemate weve had this series.

Hes completely ruined it for me!!

POOR Corin sat everyone down and said she doesnt think people should argue etc in the final few days they should try and have fun!

John said that she should be expected to do things she doesnt want to do in tasks!!

HYPOCRITE of the highest order

He refused point blank to stay in the task room with Rachael during the chasrles dickens task!!

His double standards are astounding!!

Now hes roped in Sam and Dave to try and break Corin!!!

AGHHH

He's made the series for me!!

[robb]

He has added interest, particularly being the nastiest hm in the history of BB. The series will only be ruined if he gets away with the Corin hate fest and wins the series. What he has put her through is the closest to evil i have ever seen.

Yeah......apart from the way he treated the two Rachels, Sunshine,Iffy, etc etc etc...
Let's face it, the bloke (?) is a two faced egomaniac who hates all women except the Large One who has been deemed to win by Endemol.

[LaLaLand]

Make the series?

Jesus you people get more and more deluded each day.

He's absolutely certain (along with Dave) that he is going to be at the final.

It's out duty to prove him wrong, nobody likes a gobsh!te (which he defines).

[vesavius]

all the people saying that they want him out along with the other characters will be the first to complain about it being boring.

No, I won't.

[crocs]

Other stories will have developed. Nathan would of still been in for a start. After john james getting the whole house and public against her Rachal may not have had been evicted in week one, she may have proved to be a decent character.

The house would have been totaly different, its not as simple as 'if he werent in the house it would of been ****e'.

I agree with you. If such a loud and vocal person had not been in the house, other people would have stepped up? But John James' rants suffocate everyone. Others don't want to be part of those rants and they stay away. Who knows what we would have seen without him? I think it would have been a lot more entertaining house.