The john james/ nathan/ rachael thing

[Fetch The Bolt Cutters]

I havent watched lf for ages can somebody explain the situation to me plz

[mummymaz]

i've not seen it either but as far as i know Rachel was drafted in to give John James a massage (??! why no-one knows ?!?) - they had another disagreement but Nathan was in the camera runs and banged on the mirror/window ..then Ben came in stirred it a bit more...then Nathan spoke with Corin who had no trouble telling John James Nathan and Rachel were together and Nathan wasnt happy with John James...hence John James wanting to leave...thats as i understand it anyways... could be wrong as i've not seen it!!

[Jordan.]

Nathan is going to knife John James for saying Rachael sells her body.

[Saph]

is this on live feed?

[smudgie]

JJames chose Rachael to give him a massage yesterday, he then went on to slate her, as was his intention.. Nathan is now her boyfriend and was watching from behind the mirror. He was not happy. Corin was on a date with Nathan last night and let JJames know Nathan was not happy.
Ben joked about Nathan would like to give JJames a massage yesterday.
Now JJames is running scared, according to him it is not Nathan but the public he is worried about. However this morning on LF there is talk of he might stay if he can have a talk to Nathan and he will apologise to Rachael.
Prize twit.:joker:

[walter]

WTF. Rahcael and nathan are together. HAHAHAHAHA What the **** does rachael see in him. I don't find rachael attractive at all but geez she could surely get better.

[Sabrewulf238]

If John James only invited Rachael to massage him so he could have a go at her. It's hard to feel much sympathy for him, he was spoiling for a fight and he got one.

Although Nathan is a nutjob, hearing what he's been saying. I still think that if Nathan hadn't gone crazy then John James would have been the person in the bad light.

[walter]

he better not apologise to rachael.

[Hero1]

So if he picked a message from Rachael himself, and he delibrately said rudes things to Racheal, AND Nathan got angry, and JJ went off and cried liked a baby, why is BB being blamed?

[Fetch The Bolt Cutters]

I hope nathan twats JJ. He is a cocky ****ing bully and needs putting in his place

[smudgie]

So if he picked a message from Rachael himself, and he delibrately said rudes things to Racheal, AND Nathan got angry, and JJ went off and cried liked a baby, why is BB being blamed?

Exactly.:hugesmile:

[Hero1]

Exactly.:hugesmile:

Oh Karma is a sweet bitch, al he had to do was say sorry and move on, but NOPE he chose to humilate her, and now he if finding it hard to deal with that someone can bite back and with some teeth LOL

[Kazanne]

Nathan is going to knife John James for saying Rachael sells her body.

lol,he didn't say that did he?I heard he said he was going to kick his ass

[Jordan.]

lol,he didn't say that did he?I heard he said he was going to kick his ass

kick his arse...knife, same thing :D

[Julesuk]

JJames chose Rachael to give him a massage yesterday, he then went on to slate her, as was his intention.. Nathan is now her boyfriend and was watching from behind the mirror. He was not happy. Corin was on a date with Nathan last night and let JJames know Nathan was not happy.
Ben joked about Nathan would like to give JJames a massage yesterday.
Now JJames is running scared, according to him it is not Nathan but the public he is worried about. However this morning on LF there is talk of he might stay if he can have a talk to Nathan and he will apologise to Rachael.
Prize twit.:joker:

John James intentions were to be polite with Rachel he said she onl y had a week in the house let her come back in and get a bit more air time, but Rachel already had her agenda because she knew Nathan was watching so was giving it the big un - the whole massage thing started off not too bad but deteriated as it went on Rachel could not even bare to hardly touch John and was constantly pulling faces obviously for the cameras and Nathans benefit and obviously John doesnt like her so was coming back with negative comments - the whole point is BB set John James up yesterday majorly and incited a potentially violent situation allowing Nathan and Corin to have a meal in which time Nathan told Corin him and Rachel were an item and spent the whole time majorly dissing John James saying he couldnt wait for him to get out etc etc - this was all orchistrated by BB and if this went on in the workplace there would be huge repurcussions - my question why has it been John James BB have targeted all series:?
Also Corin on leaving the task room said to nathan she would not say anything about him and Rachel being an item - she walked straight into the house and told them and also said Nathan said they would need security at the rap party.
In my eyes John hasnt been model housemate but he is spot on with Corin her true colours only come out now when she knows there is no nominations, why did she not gunge him?

[Hero1]

John James intentions were to be polite with Rachel he said she onl y had a week in the house let her come back in and get a bit more air time, but Rachel already had her agenda because she knew Nathan was watching so was giving it the big un - the whole massage thing started off not too bad but deteriated as it went on Rachel could not even bare to hardly touch John and was constantly pulling faces obviously for the cameras and Nathans benefit and obviously John doesnt like her so was coming back with negative comments - the whole point is BB set John James up yesterday majorly and incited a potentially violent situation allowing Nathan and Corin to have a meal in which time Nathan told Corin him and Rachel were an item and spent the whole time majorly dissing John James saying he couldnt wait for him to get out etc etc - this was all orchistrated by BB and if this went on in the workplace there would be huge repurcussions - my question why has it been John James BB have targeted all series:?
Also Corin on leaving the task room said to nathan she would not say anything about him and Rachel being an item - she walked straight into the house and told them and also said Nathan said they would need security at the rap party.
In my eyes John hasnt been model housemate but he is spot on with Corin her true colours only come out now when she knows there is no nominations, why did she not gunge him?


Stop you right there, that was JJ showing ARROGANCE once again, and it has caught up with him.

[smudgie]

John James intentions were to be polite with Rachel he said she onl y had a week in the house let her come back in and get a bit more air time, but Rachel already had her agenda because she knew Nathan was watching so was giving it the big un - the whole massage thing started off not too bad but deteriated as it went on Rachel could not even bare to hardly touch John and was constantly pulling faces obviously for the cameras and Nathans benefit and obviously John doesnt like her so was coming back with negative comments - the whole point is BB set John James up yesterday majorly and incited a potentially violent situation allowing Nathan and Corin to have a meal in which time Nathan told Corin him and Rachel were an item and spent the whole time majorly dissing John James saying he couldnt wait for him to get out etc etc - this was all orchistrated by BB and if this went on in the workplace there would be huge repurcussions - my question why has it been John James BB have targeted all series:?
Also Corin on leaving the task room said to nathan she would not say anything about him and Rachel being an item - she walked straight into the house and told them and also said Nathan said they would need security at the rap party.
In my eyes John hasnt been model housemate but he is spot on with Corin her true colours only come out now when she knows there is no nominations, why did she not gunge him?



So you did not see him gloating about how he intended to do what he did then, or how he will apologise to her, or admittimng he had gone too far.
He even went on to say how he now knows the public will not be too pleased and he does not want the backlash and that is why he wanted to walk last night.:joker:

[housemate]

From BB:

After already being miffed at having to wear a crab costume yesterday, John has now been asked to choose which of the previous Rachel's to receive a massage from. He has to decide between Rachael 1 and Rachel 2.

Due to John and Rachael not getting on whilst she was in the House, John has chosen her as the unpredictable choice.

How awkward will this be?!


From Ds Diary:

Rachael has become the second ex-housemate to enter the Big Brother compound today after John James chose her to come back.

John James went to the Diary Room after he collected another card that Bob Righter left in the garden. He was given a choice of bringing back either Rachael or Rachel, and picked this year's first evictee Rachael White to return.

When he left the Diary Room to meet her, he seemed confused at the massage table and towels in the middle of the task room. Rachael then explained that she had been instructed to give John James a massage, something which both of them seemed reluctant to do.

"Are you and Josie okay?" Rachael asked him. John James told her about the argument earlier, saying that they were fine now, before turning the attention onto her exit from the house.

"How was it when you left? I did feel sorry for you when you got booed," he said. Rachael replied: "Did I get booed? It turned to cheers after I went through the door. All the public I've met so far have been really nice to me."

The tension between them rose when John James told Rachael that she was a fake person, before Rachael said that it would be good for certain people if John James left on Friday.

From BB:

http://bb-cache.channel4.com/bigbrother/video/2010/Aug/18/the-most-awkward-massage-ever/play.c4

From Me: Lol!

[Hero1]

From BB:

After already being miffed at having to wear a crab costume yesterday, John has now been asked to choose which of the previous Rachel's to receive a massage from. He has to decide between Rachael 1 and Rachel 2.

Due to John and Rachael not getting on whilst she was in the House, John has chosen her as the unpredictable choice.

How awkward will this be?!


From Ds Diary:

Rachael has become the second ex-housemate to enter the Big Brother compound today after John James chose her to come back.

John James went to the Diary Room after he collected another card that Bob Righter left in the garden. He was given a choice of bringing back either Rachael or Rachel, and picked this year's first evictee Rachael White to return.

When he left the Diary Room to meet her, he seemed confused at the massage table and towels in the middle of the task room. Rachael then explained that she had been instructed to give John James a massage, something which both of them seemed reluctant to do.

"Are you and Josie okay?" Rachael asked him. John James told her about the argument earlier, saying that they were fine now, before turning the attention onto her exit from the house.

"How was it when you left? I did feel sorry for you when you got booed," he said. Rachael replied: "Did I get booed? It turned to cheers after I went through the door. All the public I've met so far have been really nice to me."

The tension between them rose when John James told Rachael that she was a fake person, before Rachael said that it would be good for certain people if John James left on Friday.

From BB:

http://bb-cache.channel4.com/bigbrother/video/2010/Aug/18/the-most-awkward-massage-ever/play.c4

From Me: Lol!

HMmmmmm, seems like he could not handle the fact that Racheal gets on with the public! So he chose to ATTACK!

[blackparade]

Hahaha what a baby, finally your getting some comeuppance for picking on women....maybe learn to shut your gob for a change. Smash his face in Nathan or I will!

[mummymaz]

Hahaha what a baby, finally your getting some comeuppance for picking on women....maybe learn to shut your gob for a change. Smash his face in Nathan or I will!


oh get a grip of yourself lol !

[BlackOrWhite]

Stop you right there, that was JJ showing ARROGANCE once again, and it has caught up with him.

But that doesn't give Rachael an excuse to bait him to try and instigate something. From what I could tell, John would have happily just said nothing but small talk to her. He said he doesn't like the oil and she came back with "I wanted gloves because I don't want to touch you" despite her obsessing over him in the first week. That obviously p!ssed John off and started something between the two. Albeit he hasn't been perfect but he looks like the bad guy when Nathan and Rachael clearly set that up.

BB didn't help either, being the type of person he is, Nathan would clearly react in that way when they argued (which was predictable) but still BB set it up anyway with it being obvious what would happen. Housemates safety should be their No.1 concern but they've jeopardized that just to cause a bit of controversy and stick a knife in John.

[housemate]

Part 2 :

From DS diaryL

This evening, Corin had a dinner date with Nathan, where he told her about his relationship with Rachael and called John James a "dickhead".

When Corin returned to the house, she told the other housemates of her time with Nathan. She explained how she had a choice between a smart dinner with JJ, or a cheap dinner wearing a bin-bag with Nathan.

John James asked Corin if Nathan was "pissed" with him, and she replied: "Yeah, because he's with Rachael, they're an item." The housemates seemed pleasantly surprised with the news.

David asked Corin if she was "gutted" that Nathan had a girlfriend, and she replied: "A little but I'm happy that he's happy."

Realising that Nathan probably saw his earlier encounter with Rachael, John James said: "He would have been raging." Corin told him: "They'd need security at the wrap party. That's his girlfriend, and you can't get more degrading than that [referring to John James's "selling her body" comment]."

Corin continued: "Most guys would find that the most disrespectful thing to say to a woman. But then you are quite disrespectful towards most women. You give it so you can take it. If someone said that to your wife, how mad would you be? You can't talk to women like that. It might be entertaining to a certain degree but it's just arrogance."

John James seemed to agree, saying: "I don't blame him, really."

Later, John James said: "[Nathan] will tear me up, for sure. He'll swing, definitely." Mario told him: "I'm sure if you just apologise it will be fine. If you mean it."

Also Ds Diary:

John James has threatened to leave the Big Brother house once again, after being told of Nathan's comments about him earlier tonight.

After Corin told John James that Big Brother will "need security at the wrap party", in relation to "disrespectful" comments made by John James to Nathan's girlfriend Rachael, he appeared to be concerned about the situation.

JJ told him: "If that was me, someone would have to hold me back from going through the mirror," a notion which Steve also agreed with later. John James wondered whether Nathan was watching his encounter with Rachael through the glass mirrors.

While most of the housemates went to bed at around midnight, John James went to the Diary Room. Later, JJ was called there from his bed.

A concerned Sam tried to listen in to the Diary Room, worried that John James was going to leave. Corin said to Steve: "He'll be back in half an hour. You can bet money on it."

Josie said: "He shouldn't have said what he said, but let it be a lesson to him. He's probably ****ed off with Big Brother."

Sam shouted to the Diary Room: "Josie's in her kinky underwear, waiting for you!"

Josie continued to suggest that Big Brother had "stitched up" John James over the situation involving Nathan and Rachael. David agreed, citing the various "crab eyes" comments made by Big Brother and Bob Righter over the week.

Eventually, JJ and John James returned from the Diary Room. John James said: "I was set up [by Big Brother]. Not only did they allow Rachael to come in, but they let Nathan watch at the ****ing window."

Referring to comments made by Ben earlier today that the former housemate had dinner with John James's mum, he added: "If my mum's in the same hotel as these people, what the **** am I supposed to do?"

He continued: "Being booed is one thing, getting things thrown at you is another. [To Josie] You'd be debating speaking to me again if you saw what I said to [Rachael]. I pretty much slated her."

He then started talking about leaving, saying: "This task is taking the ****ing piss. What is the point with me lingering around? I may as well get out there, see my family, find out what's happening, get my head around it. If I can't deal with it then I'll **** off. I'm in a situation where I'm stressing about what's going on."

He added: "I have to go, I can't stay here, seriously. I will be evicted on Friday, 100 percent. I have to be with my family right now. It's only a couple of days, I'll see you soon. [Josie] is the only reason I'm here."

A concerned Josie and JJ looked on as John James started packing an overnight bag in the bedroom. Josie said: "Can we just have a little chat? You can't just go like that." Big Brother started to repeatedly ask John James to come to the Diary Room.

Both Sam and Josie then told John James that if he left, they would leave too. He joked: "**** off, it's not the John James strike."

Sam pointed out: "You're still on telly. You've got until Friday to rectify [your image]. By going, the last impression of you is today."

Eventually, both John James and Josie went to the Diary Room together. About half an hour later, Josie returned on her own, saying: "They're gonna have a chat with him now," but she added that she would not leave after being given a golden ticket to the final.

[Hero1]

But that doesn't give Rachael an excuse to bait him to try and instigate something. From what I could tell, John would have happily just said nothing but small talk to her. He said he doesn't like the oil and she came back with "I wanted gloves because I don't want to touch you" despite her obsessing over him in the first week. That obviously p!ssed John off and started something between the two. Albeit he hasn't been perfect but he looks like the bad guy when Nathan and Rachael clearly set that up.

BB didn't help either, being the type of person he is, Nathan would clearly react in that way when they argued (which was predictable) but still BB set it up anyway with it being obvious what would happen. Housemates safety should be their No.1 concern but they've jeopardized that just to cause a bit of controversy and stick a knife in John.

Well considering he went on the aggrogant attack to give Racheal her air time as she only had a week in the house!

Then John EXCUSE James highlighted she was booed, then called her a fake after she told him the public has now warmed to him....I think she had all the rights to state what she felt. Good on her, whilst he was attacking her when she was in the house, she was trying to be his friend and kept on telling him she fancied him...about time she actually gave it to him.

[mummymaz]

hn EXCUSE James

why ^^ ??

[Hero1]

Part 2 :

From DS diaryL

This evening, Corin had a dinner date with Nathan, where he told her about his relationship with Rachael and called John James a "dickhead".

When Corin returned to the house, she told the other housemates of her time with Nathan. She explained how she had a choice between a smart dinner with JJ, or a cheap dinner wearing a bin-bag with Nathan.

John James asked Corin if Nathan was "pissed" with him, and she replied: "Yeah, because he's with Rachael, they're an item." The housemates seemed pleasantly surprised with the news.

David asked Corin if she was "gutted" that Nathan had a girlfriend, and she replied: "A little but I'm happy that he's happy."

Realising that Nathan probably saw his earlier encounter with Rachael, John James said: "He would have been raging." Corin told him: "They'd need security at the wrap party. That's his girlfriend, and you can't get more degrading than that [referring to John James's "selling her body" comment]."

Corin continued: "Most guys would find that the most disrespectful thing to say to a woman. But then you are quite disrespectful towards most women. You give it so you can take it. If someone said that to your wife, how mad would you be? You can't talk to women like that. It might be entertaining to a certain degree but it's just arrogance."

John James seemed to agree, saying: "I don't blame him, really."

Later, John James said: "[Nathan] will tear me up, for sure. He'll swing, definitely." Mario told him: "I'm sure if you just apologise it will be fine. If you mean it."

Also Ds Diary:

John James has threatened to leave the Big Brother house once again, after being told of Nathan's comments about him earlier tonight.

After Corin told John James that Big Brother will "need security at the wrap party", in relation to "disrespectful" comments made by John James to Nathan's girlfriend Rachael, he appeared to be concerned about the situation.

JJ told him: "If that was me, someone would have to hold me back from going through the mirror," a notion which Steve also agreed with later. John James wondered whether Nathan was watching his encounter with Rachael through the glass mirrors.

While most of the housemates went to bed at around midnight, John James went to the Diary Room. Later, JJ was called there from his bed.

A concerned Sam tried to listen in to the Diary Room, worried that John James was going to leave. Corin said to Steve: "He'll be back in half an hour. You can bet money on it."

Josie said: "He shouldn't have said what he said, but let it be a lesson to him. He's probably ****ed off with Big Brother."

Sam shouted to the Diary Room: "Josie's in her kinky underwear, waiting for you!"

Josie continued to suggest that Big Brother had "stitched up" John James over the situation involving Nathan and Rachael. David agreed, citing the various "crab eyes" comments made by Big Brother and Bob Righter over the week.

Eventually, JJ and John James returned from the Diary Room. John James said: "I was set up [by Big Brother]. Not only did they allow Rachael to come in, but they let Nathan watch at the ****ing window."

Referring to comments made by Ben earlier today that the former housemate had dinner with John James's mum, he added: "If my mum's in the same hotel as these people, what the **** am I supposed to do?"

He continued: "Being booed is one thing, getting things thrown at you is another. [To Josie] You'd be debating speaking to me again if you saw what I said to [Rachael]. I pretty much slated her."

He then started talking about leaving, saying: "This task is taking the ****ing piss. What is the point with me lingering around? I may as well get out there, see my family, find out what's happening, get my head around it. If I can't deal with it then I'll **** off. I'm in a situation where I'm stressing about what's going on."

He added: "I have to go, I can't stay here, seriously. I will be evicted on Friday, 100 percent. I have to be with my family right now. It's only a couple of days, I'll see you soon. [Josie] is the only reason I'm here."

A concerned Josie and JJ looked on as John James started packing an overnight bag in the bedroom. Josie said: "Can we just have a little chat? You can't just go like that." Big Brother started to repeatedly ask John James to come to the Diary Room.

Both Sam and Josie then told John James that if he left, they would leave too. He joked: "**** off, it's not the John James strike."

Sam pointed out: "You're still on telly. You've got until Friday to rectify [your image]. By going, the last impression of you is today."

Eventually, both John James and Josie went to the Diary Room together. About half an hour later, Josie returned on her own, saying: "They're gonna have a chat with him now," but she added that she would not leave after being given a golden ticket to the final.

John EXCUSE James, blaming others again, his own MOUTH and arrogance set him up mate!

[Hero1]

why ^^ ??

He has got more excuses than Jenson Button after a slower qualifying lap than Lewis Hamilton.

[housemate]

But that doesn't give Rachael an excuse to bait him to try and instigate something. From what I could tell, John would have happily just said nothing but small talk to her. He said he doesn't like the oil and she came back with "I wanted gloves because I don't want to touch you" despite her obsessing over him in the first week. That obviously p!ssed John off and started something between the two. Albeit he hasn't been perfect but he looks like the bad guy when Nathan and Rachael clearly set that up.

BB didn't help either, being the type of person he is, Nathan would clearly react in that way when they argued (which was predictable) but still BB set it up anyway with it being obvious what would happen. Housemates safety should be their No.1 concern but they've jeopardized that just to cause a bit of controversy and stick a knife in John.

I watched it Live, as can be seen in the clip I posted, John actually said: Don't put any more oil on ... cos I don't like it (the massage)
John had already set the tone of their reunion, he was the one who got nasty and personal first .. quite a bit before the 'oil etc...' part
He was his usual arrogant, 'Mr Big' self and just for once, he did it to the wrong person .... its a lesson to him, might just help him in the future.

[Thotmas]

Does anybody else think that something might've caused them to dislike eachother during the selection process before the show?

All of Johns anger is so misplaced it just doesn't make sense. It seemed misplaced during that first week and it still does now.

anyway you can catch the whole massage task from recorded live feed if anyone is interested

[Hero1]

Does anybody else think that something might've caused them to dislike eachother during the selection process before the show?

All of Johns anger is so misplaced it just doesn't make sense.

anyway you can catch the whole massage task from recorded live feed if anyone is interested


Hasnt John EXCUSE James had enough excuses in his life already?

[housemate]

Does anybody else think that something might've caused them to dislike eachother during the selection process before the show?

All of Johns anger is so misplaced it just doesn't make sense. It seemed misplaced during that first week and it still does now.

anyway you can catch the whole massage task from recorded live feed if anyone is interested

thank Ithinkiloveyoutoo (lol) ... I'd like to see it please, I missed the last few mins due to a phone call ... thanks

[Thotmas]

Hasnt John EXCUSE James had enough excuses in his life already?
LOL:blush:
When rachael asked why did you choose me then? [instead of choosing the other rachael]

he replied "i thought i would give you the chance to get your mug on tv"
I think that's where it kicked off a bit? I can't remember.

And when he said I thought I would give you the privilidge [in regards to giving her the chance to give him a massage] I just thought..my god this is the biggest dick i've ever seen in my life and the fact that josie likes him speaks volumes :eek:

[Thotmas]

thank Ithinkiloveyoutoo (lol) ... I'd like to see it please, I missed the last few mins due to a phone call ... thanks
messaged :)

[housemate]

Thankyou so much xx

[mummymaz]

he replied "i thought i would give you the chance to get your mug on tv"

LOL good on him!

[phil2004uk]

John call Rachel Names, rachel comes back to house, john picks rachel 1 to massage him, john gets moody and talks in fake way, so does rachel back at him.
Nathan apparently bangs on wall to shut john having a go.
Then john moans for hours afterwards.

[Lister of Smeg]

doubt John cares about what Rachel or Nathan think of him they went ages ago and he is in the last week i bet if John clicked his fingers Rachel would come running to his side and drop Nathan like a heavy brick :joker:.

[Thotmas]

doubt John cares about what Rachel or Nathan think of him they went ages ago and he is in the last week i bet if John clicked his fingers Rachel would come running to his side and drop Nathan like a heavy brick :joker:.
yeah amongst all that I sensed a tid bit of sexual tension lol I might be wrong though.

The part where he laughed at her because she was insulting his appearance like saying he had "a weird shaped back"...he replied that she went to the diary room and admitted that she fancied him so by coming hear and trying to insult him it is an argument she is always going to lose.....oh john do one! I want you booed well on friday. no ex housemates like you so you won't be featured in heat magazine for long after this:bawling:

[Ryan57]

Hahaha what a baby, finally your getting some comeuppance for picking on women....maybe learn to shut your gob for a change. Smash his face in Nathan or I will!

Giving threats via a forum. Tough guy.

[Lister of Smeg]

Hahaha what a baby, finally your getting some comeuppance for picking on women....maybe learn to shut your gob for a change. Smash his face in Nathan or I will!

not at all John is laughing at there face at how pathetic they are .

[walter]

what an absolute load of ****e. nathan and rachael wanted to stir **** up which is why they would have agreed to be part of the task.