Josie: Awful Girlfriend Material

[MisterCool]

Ok, let's get one thing straight: if your so-called 'boyfriend' gets into an argument with someone (even a friend) you do not, repeat, DO NOT side with the friend.

Anyone who'd side with a friend over their partner/spouse is an awful investment and should be dumped immediately.

When John James and Corin were arguing the other night, Josie kept defending Corin and siding with her over her 'boyfriend'.

As a so-called partner, she should have either kept silent or sided with John James.

She showed herself to be incredibly DISLOYAL and any REAL MAN would have dumped her on the spot!

Anyone who'd take sides against their partner makes for an awful investment. No loyality=weak relationship.

[Saph]

you created an account just to say that?

Maybe its to do with the fact that the man she's with is a complete wanker!

[Ramsay]

bros before hos braw

[MisterCool]

you created an account just to say that?

Maybe its to do with the fact that the man she's with is a complete wanker!

You clearly are also quite disloyal. I feel sorry for any boyfriend you might have. I bet you'd side with your 'friends' too. Pitiful.

[MisterCool]

bros before hos braw

No, partner before 'friends'. The reason the divroce rate is so high btw is because too many people have their priorities wrong.

You wouldn't take sides with your friends over own mother would you? Or your kids?

So the same should be true of your partner!

[Lee.]

Ok, let's get one thing straight: if your so-called 'boyfriend' gets into an argument with someone (even a friend) you do not, repeat, DO NOT side with the friend.

Anyone who'd side with a friend over their partner/spouse is an awful investment and should be dumped immediately.

When John James and Corin were arguing the other night, Josie kept defending Corin and siding with her over her 'boyfriend'.

As a so-called partner, she should have either kept silent or sided with John James.

She showed herself to be incredibly DISLOYAL and any REAL MAN would have dumped her on the spot!

Anyone who'd take sides against their partner makes for an awful investment. No loyality=weak relationship.

Yeah, I kinda agree with this.. I was quite surprised that she sided with Corin so vocally too. I think, even if she agreed with Corin it woiuld have been better for her just to stay out of it rather than turn on John..

[Saph]

You clearly are also quite disloyal. I feel sorry for any boyfriend you might have. I bet you'd side with your 'friends' too. Pitiful.

Anyone would side with freinds lol whats more important?

John James and Josie are a terrible matching and I feel sorry for Josie having to put up with that waste of air for the whole summer.

[rusticgal]

Totally agree mistercool.... its called loyalty.If you dont have loyalty and trust in a relationship...its doomed.
John is totally loyal to her... he will be very upset when he sees what a bitch she has been behind his back.

[MisterCool]

Rustic and Happyland understand :) good to see SOME morals exist here!

Pity Saphlike doesn't 'get' what a real relationship is meant to be about lol.

[Lee.]

Anyone would side with freinds lol whats more important?

John James and Josie are a terrible matching and I feel sorry for Josie having to put up with that waste of air for the whole summer.

Yeah, but regardless of your feelings towards John, he has been the closest to Josie from day 1 in the house.

[Saph]

Rustic and Happyland understand :) good to see SOME morals exist here!

Pity Saphlike doesn't 'get' what a real relationship is meant to be about lol.

more like pity your another dilusional John James fan :joker: Wonder how long it will take before you get your permaban :blush:

[HBB1508]

I think it says more about their relationship or lack of one to be honest.

[WOMBAI]

Ok, let's get one thing straight: if your so-called 'boyfriend' gets into an argument with someone (even a friend) you do not, repeat, DO NOT side with the friend.

Anyone who'd side with a friend over their partner/spouse is an awful investment and should be dumped immediately.

When John James and Corin were arguing the other night, Josie kept defending Corin and siding with her over her 'boyfriend'.

As a so-called partner, she should have either kept silent or sided with John James.

She showed herself to be incredibly DISLOYAL and any REAL MAN would have dumped her on the spot!

Anyone who'd take sides against their partner makes for an awful investment. No loyality=weak relationship.

I have heard some bull in my time - but this has to be up there with the worst!

You don't back your 'partner' simply because they are your partner - if you disagree - you are fully entitled to say so! What an archaic point of view!

[Livia]

I would never have a boyfriend who's as big an ar5ehole as John James, so the problem would never arise.

[MisterCool]

I have heard some bull in my time - but this has to be up there with the worst!

I've read some of your posts here. You are the most stupid member on here and I've read Fingers' posts! :joker:

You don't back your 'partner' simply because they are your partner

Yes you do.

if you disagree - you are fully entitled to say so! What an archaic point of view!

If you disagree, you say so in private. To do otherwise is grossly disloyal. Your opinion on this is worthless btw but to show everyone else how your reasoning is flawed, I felt it appropriate to respond.

[Lee.]

I have heard some bull in my time - but this has to be up there with the worst!

You don't back your 'partner' simply because they are your partner - if you disagree - you are fully entitled to say so! What an archaic point of view!

Womnai, I have to say I kinda disagree with this. I do agree she should have a right to disagree, but when it's your closest friend/partner, some loyalty should be shown no?

I think she would have been better staying out of it and then telling John on her own that she disagreed with him, rather than turning on him in quite an aggresive manner on national televeision :)

[WOMBAI]

Womnai, I have to say I kinda disagree with this. I do agree she should have a right to disagree, but when it's your closest friend/partner, some loyalty should be shown no?

I think she would have been better staying out of it and then telling John on her own that she disagreed with him, rather than turning on him in quite an aggresive manner on national televeision :)

I respect your opinion - but on something like this - I think she did the right thing standing up for Corin!

Firstly they are hardly a 'couple' in the proper sense of the word - and, as he was clearly behaving in his usual innappropriate way - she did the right think calling him up on it - although may not of handled it as well as she might!

Couples may back each other up in significant, important matters - but on less important things - having opposing opinions is healthy and, I believe, should be encouraged - and they should be able to agree to disagree! I don't think anyone should blindly support their partner - if they strongly believe them to be wrong!

[Angus]

Totally agree mistercool.... its called loyalty.If you dont have loyalty and trust in a relationship...its doomed.
John is totally loyal to her... he will be very upset when he sees what a bitch she has been behind his back.

Wasn't she pissed because he sided with Sam against her? Ain't karma a bitch?:laugh2:

[Angus]

Womnai, I have to say I kinda disagree with this. I do agree she should have a right to disagree, but when it's your closest friend/partner, some loyalty should be shown no?

I think she would have been better staying out of it and then telling John on her own that she disagreed with him, rather than turning on him in quite an aggresive manner on national televeision :)

How can people not see exactly WHY she sided with Corin? It was payback for JJ1 siding with Sam when he was having a go at her. Josie fans are all praising this fake cow for sticking with the sisterhood, when all it was really about was malicious payback by the spiteful bitch. Do you seriously think Josie gives a flying ***** about the orange one? Lol.

[Lee.]

How can people not see exactly WHY she sided with Corin? It was payback for JJ1 siding with Sam when he was having a go at her. Josie fans are all praising this fake cow for sticking with the sisterhood, when all it was really about was malicious payback by the spiteful bitch. Do you seriously think Josie gives a flying ***** about the orange one? Lol.

Ahh.. I see.I've missed quite a lot recently and did not see John doing this. So it was more of a revenge tactic you think? Hmm.. that makes it even worse I think.

[Enid]

Nah I think this is wrong.

If my partner is being an arse to my friend, I'll tell him. I won't back him up just because I sleep with the man.

[Chickie]

To start with I think you got the topic wrong. Should have been John James: Awful Boyfriend Material.

So let me get this straight. Just because she is close to him she should abide by everything he says and not have an opinion is that right?
She should just be a good little women who nods and says yes John James, I totally agree with everything you say John James... Pfffff

What world do you live in? Do women in relationships not have the right to speak their mind where you come from?

I will stand by my man in pretty much any situation. But if he is making a twat of himself, is out of line, or is just being a argumentative dick, be dammed I will just sit there listen and nod. I would tell him so. And if he really loves you/her he will listen and take on board what you say. I am not saying he will change over it, but he should take it on board. John James doesn't, he just continues to argue and be a dick.

As an Aussie I am embarrassed by this twat. Sure he does have a few nice qualities that come to the surface on a rare, rare occasion, but overall he is a bully and a *****. My god, when he argues he doesn't even make sense, it's cringe worthy to watch.

My advise to Josie would be: Josie run... Run like you have never run before and don't look back.

I really hope he does move to the UK when this is over, (sorry to lumber him with you guys, I'm sure you don't want him either...lol).

[Jamietwo]

i think they are a really good match , i think josie has shown him a lot of love and good humoured common sense is a good antidote to his neurosis and i think on some level he knows that. I'm not sure exactly what josie gets in return though, hopefully love and appreciation and loyalty. when she tells him off it's for a good reason and she retains a sort of motherly unconditional love for him , sometimes a child needs a clip around the ear verbally.

[chuff me dizzy]

She is the WORST type of girlfriend there would ever be ,shes too far up her own ass to ever make a go of a relationship,she is SO disloyal where JJ1 is concerned ,shes backstabbed him every chance shes had ,she didnt give a flying one when he was upset the other night ,in fact she was encouraging him to leave ,tonight we may have a few fake tears(not as many as when Govan left ,and she had only known him a few weeks, no "romance " ) but she will try he damndest to force a couple out ,she knows she will be getting camera time ,so she will use it to the max ,a terrible girlfirend,a vile hm8,and a nasty ,sly human being

[chuff me dizzy]

i think they are a really good match , i think josie has shown him a lot of love and good humoured common sense is a good antidote to his neurosis and i think on some level he knows that. I'm not sure exactly what josie gets in return though, hopefully love and appreciation and loyalty. when she tells him off it's for a good reason and she retains a sort of motherly unconditional love for him , sometimes a child needs a clip around the ear verbally.

I dont think shes shown him one iota of love ,she is the reason hes leaving tonight to massive boos ,shes used him

[Chickie]

She is the WORST type of girlfriend there would ever be ,shes too far up her own ass to ever make a go of a relationship,she is SO disloyal where JJ1 is concerned ,shes backstabbed him every chance shes had ,she didnt give a flying one when he was upset the other night ,in fact she was encouraging him to leave ,tonight we may have a few fake tears(not as many as when Govan left ,and she had only known him a few weeks, no "romance " ) but she will try he damndest to force a couple out ,she knows she will be getting camera time ,so she will use it to the max ,a terrible girlfirend,a vile hm8,and a nasty ,sly human being

Gee, are we watching the same show? I have no idea what you are watching. You say she is up herself. How so? I don't see her as a self involved person. Nor do I see her making herself out to be better than what she is.

If you hate her o.k. just say you hate her. But don't say she is up herself when she is clearly not. I could introduce you to a couple of girls that are so far up themselves you could turn them inside out. Then you might understand what the term "Up your self" really means. She is clearly an insecure girl, in saying that she is also very grounded.

And should she voice aloud her feelings or thoughts to others that's classed as backstabbing? God forbid she talk to any1 but John James about her thoughts or feelings. I mean no1 in the real world ever discusses personal issues, feelings or thoughts with their friends or family right? Don't want to be accused of backstabbing now do we. Pfff

I am not even a fan of Josie's'. To be honest this is maybe the second worst season I have ever watched, (we all know which season was the worst yes...lol) . But reading these forums, my gosh a lot of topics are based on dribble and/or bull**** and hate.

Now stop with the BS and just start a I hate Josie forum. At least then you are keeping it real and not posting dribble.

[Julie10]

I've read some of your posts here. You are the most stupid member on here and I've read Fingers' posts! :joker:



Yes you do.



If you disagree, you say so in private. To do otherwise is grossly disloyal. Your opinion on this is worthless btw but to show everyone else how your reasoning is flawed, I felt it appropriate to respond.




Pot, Kettle. Black!

[janaddy86]

I wouldn't go anywhere near her after I've seen the way she acts. I wouldn't trust her as far as I could throw her.

[WOMBAI]

I've read some of your posts here. You are the most stupid member on here and I've read Fingers' posts! :joker:


Yes you do.



If you disagree, you say so in private. To do otherwise is grossly disloyal. Your opinion on this is worthless btw but to show everyone else how your reasoning is flawed, I felt it appropriate to respond.

Excepting you of course! :joker:

Nah - I have a mind of my own thanks - and you don't sacrifice your belief in right and wrong for the sake of loyalty! It is overrated - and often used as an excuse to exert control over someone! You earn loyalty, you don't demand it - not even from a partner!

[chuff me dizzy]

Gee, are we watching the same show? I have no idea what you are watching. You say she is up herself. How so? I don't see her as a self involved person. Nor do I see her making herself out to be better than what she is.

If you hate her o.k. just say you hate her. But don't say she is up herself when she is clearly not. I could introduce you to a couple of girls that are so far up themselves you could turn them inside out. Then you might understand what the term "Up your self" really means. She is clearly an insecure girl, in saying that she is also very grounded.

And should she voice aloud her feelings or thoughts to others that's classed as backstabbing? God forbid she talk to any1 but John James about her thoughts or feelings. I mean no1 in the real world ever discusses personal issues, feelings or thoughts with their friends or family right? Don't want to be accused of backstabbing now do we. Pfff

I am not even a fan of Josie's'. To be honest this is maybe the second worst season I have ever watched, (we all know which season was the worst yes...lol) . But reading these forums, my gosh a lot of topics are based on dribble and/or bull**** and hate.

Now stop with the BS and just start a I hate Josie forum. At least then you are keeping it real and not posting dribble.

PLEASE do not shoot off at me ,when you have 6 points ,

[chuff me dizzy]

I wouldn't go anywhere near her after I've seen the way she acts. I wouldn't trust her as far as I could throw her.

Not many men would

[oddballmisfitsFTW]

Josie is a bitch, a liar, she is ugly, fat, stinks, bad breath, no class, low sex drive, laughs like a witch, thick, annoying accent, lazy slob, looks at her own sh** and eats bogies

she not my type

[chuff me dizzy]

She doesnt give a flying one that JJ1 is leaving ,not a flying one

[chuff me dizzy]

Josie is a bitch, a liar, she is ugly, fat, stinks, bad breath, no class, low sex drive, laughs like a witch, thick, annoying accent, lazy slob, looks at her own sh** and eats bogies

she not my type

Mine neither ,you are paying her far too many compliments for my liking

[Patricia4]

Josie is a bitch, a liar, she is ugly, fat, stinks, bad breath, no class, low sex drive, laughs like a witch, thick, annoying accent, lazy slob, looks at her own sh** and eats bogies

she not my type
So you dont like her

:laugh3:

[jtalh2003]

according to the logic of the op you should side with a partner of a couple of months over a friend of several years because you should always side with your partner

loyalty is earned over time not given just because your partner thinks you should

[OnlySamShouldWin]

What world do you live in? Do women in relationships not have the right to speak their mind where you come from?

I believe the OP said this applies to everyone in relationships. And I agree with the OP.

I will stand by my man in pretty much any situation. But if he is making a twat of himself, is out of line, or is just being a argumentative dick, be dammed I will just sit there listen and nod. I would tell him so. And if he really loves you/her he will listen and take on board what you say. I am not saying he will change over it, but he should take it on board. John James doesn't, he just continues to argue and be a dick.

You would clearly be a nightmare girlfriend. If you sided with someone else (regardless if he's in the wrong) then he should dump you on the spot. If you disagree then say so in private, not in public.

[Chickie]

PLEASE do not shoot off at me ,when you have 6 points ,

WOW - So it comes down to points... Interesting. Guess what I had to say should be ignored then. Thanks for bringing that to my attention, I appreciate it :P

Should I assume I need to reach 100 posts before I can post an opinion.. Hang on wait.... If I have to reach a certain amount of posts before I can post an opinion how many posts do I have to make before.. Ah forget it......

**New posters please be advised in the world according to chuff if you have not reached a certain amount of posts any opinion you have is irrelevant or is subject to sarcasm :P

[chuff me dizzy]

WOW - So it comes down to points... Interesting. Guess what I had to say should be ignored then. Thanks for bringing that to my attention, I appreciate it :P

Should I assume I need to reach 100 posts before I can post an opinion.. Hang on wait.... If I have to reach a certain amount of posts before I can post an opinion how many posts do I have to make before.. Ah forget it......

**New posters please be advised in the world according to chuff if you have not reached a certain amount of posts any opinion you have is irrelevant or is subject to sarcasm :P

Go troll off somewhere else ...... :crazy::crazy:

[WOMBAI]

Ok, let's get one thing straight: if your so-called 'boyfriend' gets into an argument with someone (even a friend) you do not, repeat, DO NOT side with the friend.

Anyone who'd side with a friend over their partner/spouse is an awful investment and should be dumped immediately.

When John James and Corin were arguing the other night, Josie kept defending Corin and siding with her over her 'boyfriend'.

As a so-called partner, she should have either kept silent or sided with John James.

She showed herself to be incredibly DISLOYAL and any REAL MAN would have dumped her on the spot!

Anyone who'd take sides against their partner makes for an awful investment. No loyality=weak relationship.

MisterCool is MisterFool! :joker:

[uvhater]

you do not have to back your partner or agree with your partner very single time, especially if they are being a idiot and keep repeating the same point over and over again. John James just won't let something go. He also doesn't seem to support Josie, the thought the comment Sam Pepper made to her about the bikini was funny, IT WASN'T. He laughed it off. Pepper still doesn things to Josie that she doesn't like and he still says nothing. Obviously telling someone to stop it ain't enough. If you don't find it funny, why should you laugh it off.

How come John James doesn't know about BBLB or BBBM if he did any sort of research on the prog. Surely most people realise that they would be interviewed to some degree after going on a prog like that. Even a 30 sec interview on X Factor.

He is turning into a spoilt brat and and idiot. Heaven help his Mum.

[StGeorge]

In a way i agree with the OP on the matter of a certain degree of loyalty to friends/partners/family, but thats something that i believe strongly in myself. But i also agree with Wombai that loyalty can only go so far and sometimes you have to speak up.

In this case....i agreed with JJ1 & Sam (and Dave if you listen closely) about the makeup issue, as it sounded like that was a definite target due to Bob Righters words. Once Corin had said no then JJ1 was correct for saying the task was as well as shafted if people were doing their own thing.
Where i think Josie was then wrong, is that instead of just agreeing with Corin, she got very snappy at JJ1 and the look of anger on her face just reiterated what has been said in other threads about her change and aggression at him since the freepass. Disagreeing with a partner over something is best done in private, but she now chose to berate him in front of others with a ferocity that doesnt smack of a real loving relationship. She didnt back Corin up....she took the lead big time, and that to me is as disloyal as you can get.
Her attack on him again at fagland when he enquired about the "Sam up JJs arse" bit just made their relationship even more of just a gameplan. She seems to have taken it as her excuse to start questioning their relationship. Very convenient as its coming to the end and she is garanteed final status?

He needs to wake up fast, and give her some whilst he is still there....i'd respect him for that. But i think he will only find out once he has left how much she slags him off behind his back.

[StGeorge]

you do not have to back your partner or agree with your partner very single time, especially if they are being a idiot and keep repeating the same point over and over again. John James just won't let something go. He also doesn't seem to support Josie, the thought the comment Sam Pepper made to her about the bikini was funny, IT WASN'T. He laughed it off. Pepper still doesn things to Josie that she doesn't like and he still says nothing. Obviously telling someone to stop it ain't enough. If you don't find it funny, why should you laugh it off..

I would agree except for a few points. When Sam was baiting Josie..her responce at times was to bite back and to also laugh. I found it difficult to tell if she was annoyed or playing as she said they had history before. She would say " i love him like a little brother..but he annoys me"..cackle cackle cackle. JJ1 face was always one of someone who didnt know when to laugh and was waiting on her responce before doing so. If she was that upset at Sams remarks, she should of had a go at him earlier and not joined in with the banter. Perhaps though this would not have been inline with her gameplan to be jolly Josie cackle cackle cackle.
He is turning into a spoilt brat and and idiot. Heaven help his Mum.

He was always a spoilt brat....from day one.

[Chickie]

I believe the OP said this applies to everyone in relationships. And I agree with the OP.



You would clearly be a nightmare girlfriend. If you sided with someone else (regardless if he's in the wrong) then he should dump you on the spot. If you disagree then say so in private, not in public.

Firstly, I don't take offense to your comment, I don't know you and you don't know me so your judgment means nothing to me. I am sure you have heard the story about water and ducks ;)

PUBLIC...... Now let's break this down... Yes from our perspective it is public, we are the viewers after all.
In "REAL LIFE" I personally would never, ever bring up such an issue in public. Not every1 needs to know your business, my folks taught me better than that.

Anyway this is where we need to put it into perspective. Yes these guys know there are camera's around. But in saying that it does not mean they never let their guard down and forget about the camera's all be it for a brief period, they are human after all, let's not forget that. It is hard to fight human nature.
If you want to judge some1 for that, well that is entirely up to you. But me, I'm a realist. Fact is when people are upset with their partners chances are they will discuss with others. Like it or not that's generally how it goes.

[Chickie]

Go troll off somewhere else ...... :crazy::crazy:

P.S - I almost forgot, if you reply to his sarcastic comments just once you now fall under the term "Troll"..
Again, thanks for teaching me chuff. Whatever would I do without you :xyxwave:

[StGeorge]

If you want to judge some1 for that, well that is entirely up to you. But me, I'm a realist. Fact is when people are upset with their partners chances are they will discuss with others. Like it or not that's generally how it goes.

That is a very good point Chickie, in that when relationships falter..most will go and seek solace with someone else and relay their woes accordingly.
But....to then have it out in front of a crowd would not be the done thing.
I would only agree to this if the dominant partner (usually male) was a violent bully and so speaking up can only be done with back up.

JJ1 is alot of things, but he doesnt smack of being a violent bully....i think if most girls were to slap him he'd buckle like Basil.

[Chickie]

That is a very good point Chickie, in that when relationships falter..most will go and seek solace with someone else and relay their woes accordingly.
But....to then have it out in front of a crowd would not be the done thing.
I would only agree to this if the dominant partner (usually male) was a violent bully and so speaking up can only be done with back up.

JJ1 is alot of things, but he doesnt smack of being a violent bully....i think if most girls were to slap him he'd buckle like Basil.

I totally agree StGeorge, public or in front of a crowd is not on in my opinion, unless it is for the reason you stated above.

I have merely tried to point out the facts, that being most people in the real world when upset with their partners will talk with friends or family, it's a fact. We can't hold it against those in the house for doing what we in the real world would do. Just because there are cameras on these guys 24x7 doesn't make them backstabbers, they are just reacting like everyone in the real world would.

Also, I don't see John James as a violent person either. Perhaps mentally destructive, but not violent. Although I do think his a twat...lol

[astrozombiee]

Josie doesn't have to side with him on everything he say's just because they're meant to be together. If he's wrong she has the right to tell him and have her opinion. Everyonee is an individual - I wouldn't dare agree with everything my boyfriend says because what relationship is that? there not equals if tthat happens. John James is in the wrong and Josie is big and strong enough to understand it and not get swayed by the fact he's quite pretty (even though I find him WAY unattractive, and not just his horrible bolshy personality.)
He tells her he loves her and that he wants to move to Bristol to be near here (probably because he thinks she's going to snag the £100,000) but where was he when Josie disagree'd with people? She argued with Sam and JJ1 sided with Sammy (so did I, but he's supposed to love her) so why should she side with him over her friend?

[Patricia4]

She doesnt give a flying one that JJ1 is leaving ,not a flying one

Your right she does'nt care, everyone is on the sofa and she is in the kitchen feeding her face she does'nt give a toss about anyone but herself.

[yousoboo!]

Josie keeps it real. I'd respect my girlfriend more if she told me when i was being a d***.

[coolestrock]

yeah,,,,no compassion. If you like a bird who acts like a bloke then she'd be good for you

[StGeorge]

Josie doesn't have to side with him on everything he say's just because they're meant to be together. If he's wrong she has the right to tell him and have her opinion. Everyonee is an individual - I wouldn't dare agree with everything my boyfriend says because what relationship is that? there not equals if tthat happens.

I agree with you to a point. But trust me..if you were to front up to your boyfriend in a ferocious manner, and take him on whilst defending others, in front of his friends....your relationship will suffer in the end.