what killed big brother??

[matie2010]

years ago big brother used be really succesful and we was always sure be on next summerhowever now it looks like after ulitmate big brother that will be that and be over... but what exactly killed big brother:conf:

[matie2010]

please post your opions thanks:D

[Saph]

I think it was Jade's racism row stuff. However many will disagree.

I still love Jade however :D

[Kazanne]

People voting out the entertaining housemates too soon
BB not sticking to the rules
Live Feed being axed
multi voting
Nikki going back in

[arista]

years ago big brother used be really succesful and we was always sure be on next summerhowever now it looks like after ulitmate big brother that will be that and be over... but what exactly killed big brother:conf:


its the politics of Ch4.


It is alive and Well
soon a new Location and on a better channel
Ch5.

[Sunday]

I think it was Jade's racism row stuff. However many will disagree.

I still love Jade however :D



I agree, I think that was the final straw, plus the voting scandal.

[arista]

People voting out the entertaining housemates too soon
BB not sticking to the rules
Live Feed being axed
multi voting


Yes that was Dumb
as that ios the Whole point of this Show.

[matie2010]

its the politics of Ch4.


It is alive and Well
soon a new Location and on a better channel
Ch5.

i thought channel 5 didt get it:conf:

[smudgie]

Housemates keeping their eye on the win rather than going in to enjoy themselves.
Gone are the days when they all just acted the way they were, good, bad or indifferent.
You still got plenty of arguments because of personality clashes so it still kept us all amused.:hugesmile:

[Saph]

i thought channel 5 didt get it:conf:

They have brought it now :D They're gonna make it better i hope

[matie2010]

They have brought it now :D They're gonna make it better i hope

thats good to hear:D

[Jordan.]

Bias editing
Idiotic voters
Too much outside world contact
Repetative twists/task
Boring housemates

Hopefully Five will fix this :D

[Patrick]

1. Jade Goody
2. The annoying fans who can't do anything right
3. The pathetic producers

[brian3]

I think it was Jade's racism row stuff. However many will disagree.

I still love Jade however :D

It was not so much the racism as the way BB delt with it. They could have put an end to it at the start. but they let it drag out. They delt with the situation badly.

[MusicMan]

From BB7 onwards I reckon, people were outraged that BB7 had housemates with mental issues and problems and stuff (trying to be more and more outrageous), plus the voting the evictees back in. Then the race row of CBB5. And over time, since the start, the housemates cared more and more about the fame and stuff, and housemates were becoming shallower about how they viewed their time on the show. BB got a reputation for being about showcasing egos.

...possibly :)

[Shardlake]

... the people who vote on it have killed it.

They have turned it into a teeny bopper who looks best, popularity contest

Shame really

[_Seth]

BB4
BB8
Vote to Evict
Boring housemates
BB misrepresenting certain scenes
No Live feed
People only in it to win it

[BLORN]

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[billy123]

The pathetic little twatty kids that call everybody that doesnt agree with their opinion idiots.

[Omen]

Its own success killed it. It failed to live up to itself. It had a shelf life.

[Omah]

http://www.rtsfutures.org.uk/show_news_stories/74

Phil Edgar-Jones was appointed Endemol UK’s Head of Entertainment and Features in 2003 before being made Creative Director of Brighter Pictures in January 2006. Since working for Endemol Phil has overseen the production of some of the UK’s largest entertainment programmes, including Big Brother (Channel 4 and E4); Celebrity Big Brother (Channel 4 and E4) and Celebrity Scissorhands (BBC Three). As series producer on the eviction shows of the second series of Big Brother and executive producer on Big Brother’s Little Brother, Phil helped to establish these shows alongside the successful Channel 4 series.

Apart from the success of BB5, it's all been downhill for BB since then to its' present dumbest of dumbed down state ..... :(

[smartalec2718]

The race row and the dawn of the PC era. Davina. Nikki going back in. Tabloid coverage. Jade Goody's fame. Heat magazine. "Fans" who vote out entertaining housemates. Live feed being axed. The credit crunch. The entire BB10 series. George Lamb. I could go on...

[Jack_]

- Race Row [mainly the complete overreaction from the media and viewers]
- BB8 being timid as a result
- So-called idiotic 'fans' constantly voting out big characters/entertaining housemates due to them voting with hatred, rather than with logic
- Vote to Evict [would've stopped those delusional people ruining the show]
- The so-called idiotic fans then voting for the dullest of dull to win the show [Rachel Rice, Cameron etc]
- The producers picking these dull housemates in the first place

...and just when you thought they couldn't kill it anymore, the producers decide to stage a Quadruple Eviction with a Vote to Evict.

Nail. Hits. Coffin.

[Omah]

Phil Edgar-Jones was the man who selected Jade Goody to appear on 2002's Big Brother - the rest is history, and littered with his mistakes .....

[crocs]

I agree, I think that was the final straw, plus the voting scandal.

What was the voting scandal? I don't remember it.

[oddballmisfitsFTW]

BBBM and BBLB gutter TV which is for imbeciles

bias and manipulation from BB

BB are now too soft and too PC

the tasks should be challenging, not pi** easy

same thing year after year

[_Seth]

BBLB shouldn't exist, but BBBM should.

[Jack_]

Few more to add to the list:

- Big Brother becoming overly politically correct [no alcohol, intervening during arguments]
- Silly gimmicks, especially this year [Jedward, stupid graphics/music etc]
- Dermot leaving BBLB

[crocs]

Interesting opinions, I think.

[Blueisthecolour]

For me, partly it was the housemates that were selected.

For about three years running it seemed that only Gay, transexual or people "claiming" to be bisexual need apply.

I don't have anything against people in those demographics, but I thought the idea was that the mix of housemates should represent society in general - and for some time it didn't.

Then in a couple of the series is seemed only screechy bleached blonde under 21 year old girls need apply.

The big thing that really showed me they'd lost the plot in production though was the Charlie Uchea scenario where they seemed to change the rules and make her immune from eviction for about three weeks running.

I've still watched every series though.

Every series has had good and bad bits.

[Jords]

Main Reasons:

- Biased editing and Big Brother manipulation causing the show itself to be more fake than the housemates whom are accused. Also including the focus on showmances way too much.

- Big characters evicted first whilst floaters remain in 'til the end = major disappointing finales + winners.

- Show becoming a sausage fest every series as the majority of the voters are women who vote out the other women - loses variety within the show.

- Poor choices of housemates, often picked by the producers espicially to make a romance or for rivalery. Need a more natural selection and let things happen by themselves rather than constructing it.

Also as many people have said, the race row and the fact the show has ran its course, needs a major revamping in the format (save + replace worked well and was new this series).

[robb]

HASN'T IT JUST RUN IT'S COURSE? Too many housemates appear too knowing, history repeating itself, and there are many other Z-listers vying for our attention now on BGT and X Factor etc etc.

[charmingmissc]

Bias editing
Idiotic voters
Too much outside world contact
Repetative twists/task
Boring housemates

Hopefully Five will fix this :D

says it all really.
:shocked:

[fuzzylovin]

Theyve run out of the ideas, and every year its always the same kind of people and the same kind of stuff.

[EzzaB]

The voting system
and
BB8 being really ****

[GiRTh]

From BB7 onwards I reckon, people were outraged that BB7 had housemates with mental issues and problems and stuff (trying to be more and more outrageous), plus the voting the evictees back in. Then the race row of CBB5. And over time, since the start, the housemates cared more and more about the fame and stuff, and housemates were becoming shallower about how they viewed their time on the show. BB got a reputation for being about showcasing egos.

...possibly :)Spot on:thumbs:
The producers started to take the piss after that - All female launch nights, putting evicted HM's back in etc - Then came the race row and so many people started to distance themselves from the show. The writing was on the wall from way back then

[Mystic Mock]

rachel rice winning.