Dave the antichrist will win bb11.

[karezza]

Charlatan Dave will win BB11 because the Welsh will multiple vote him to victory.

Remember BB9?:bawling:

[smudgie]

Hopefully all those JJames fans will vote for JoeJohn now.

Can't see them voting for Josie as she was his biggest downfall in the end.

No way will they vote for Dave either.

Come on you Tweenies, Get voting:joker:

[Stacey.]

Josie will win.

Dave will come 3rd.

[karezza]

I am still haunted by Rachel Rice winning BB9.

[as90]

You people over the water are so cheery *cough* and slanderous. Be thankful we supply you with entertainment.

[Shardlake]

The antichrist? How did you get there?

The Christian vote is going to be far more significant for him than the Welsh vote, nobody in South West Wales is going to be voting for him in any great numbers.

I hope he does win it, just to shake it up as it seems a foregone conclusion that Josie will get it which will be boring beyond belief.

[stoney]

Hopefully all those JJames fans will vote for JoeJohn now.

Can't see them voting for Josie as she was his biggest downfall in the end.

No way will they vote for Dave either.

Come on you Tweenies, Get voting:joker:

what some of you dave haters just dont get is that John and Dave were friends and some of JJs fans will pass there vote to dave.:dance:

why give jj2 any votes ? what has he done to entertain us:conf:

and John was his own biggest downfall for his nastiness a towards racheal followed by his cowardice about nathan:bawling::bawling:

[Beso]

Glory.

[stoney]

where are the confident dave haters today cos I cant seem to find a dave hate thread this morning:conf:

all to busy:bawling::bawling::bawling: lol:xyxwave::dance::dance::xyxwave:

[as90]

I would imagine that corin fans would back dave, he was pretty good to her and also steve fans.

[Patricia4]

Charlatan Dave will win BB11 because the Welsh will multiple vote him to victory.

Remember BB9?:bawling:

Yes I remember

[snukey123]

I would imagine that corin fans would back dave, he was pretty good to her and also steve fans.

Errrr i love Corin but hate Dave.

[stoney]

Errrr i love Corin but hate Dave.

who will your vote go to , or will you not bother to vote?

jj2 that has been so horrid behind Corin's back:conf:
andrew that has done......( insert anything that you can think of cos I cant think of anything):conf:

[Shasown]

where are the confident dave haters today cos I cant seem to find a dave hate thread this morning:conf:

all to busy:bawling::bawling::bawling: lol:xyxwave::dance::dance::xyxwave:

Licking their wounds, regrouping, searching the net for more videos, regenerating venom, no doubt they will be back soon enough pouring out more hate for Dave.

[housemate]

where are the confident dave haters today cos I cant seem to find a dave hate thread this morning:conf:

all to busy:bawling::bawling::bawling: lol:xyxwave::dance::dance::xyxwave:

Hi Stoney .. thought I'd not comment on last night because I didn't want to be predictable....
however as I have been labelled a 'Dave Hater' by a number of his fans, I'll respond by saying that yes, I do hate the idea of him still being there and am entirely puzzled as to how he managed to be kept in, I get the unnerving feeling that something isn't adding up (percentages of votes?)
My hope now however is that Dave does Win, because ultimately, the higher he climbs the harder he will fall.
I want to see Dave and his organisation thoroughly investigated. As a BB Winner. closer scrutiny of who he is and what he is all about will be inevitable. He isn't the usual everyday Winner who the Media have found it easy to all but ignore as in the past few years .. He has the potential to drag a lot of people into his 'belief system' ... I'm counting on the Press having a field day.
The most important question is whether Dave and his troops are the benign beings his supporters claim they are, or not, I'd like the facts either way and yes, I will apologise if I am found to be wrong .
PS .. In case anybody cares (lol) I had just written much the same as above in another 'venue' .. I haven't 'copied' anyone elses thoughts on the matter.

[CaudleHalbard]

I'm not a fan of Dave........ not at all.

But part of me wants to see him win just to stick one on the BB producers who rae clearly itching to crown Josie queen of BB11.

[matie2010]

yes wales will vote for dave:D however he wont win because reckon joise will also have some john james support backing her now aswell so unfourtanly in my opion one of the worst winner ever on tuesday if she wins:(

[CaudleHalbard]

Why would the tweenies who adore JJ1 ("cos e's fit" etc) adore Josie?

Maybe they'll transfer their votes to JJ2......... as next best thing. :joker:

[Livia]

Charlatan Dave will win BB11 because the Welsh will multiple vote him to victory.

Remember BB9?:bawling:

More people live in London than live in Wales and Scotland combined. People are going to have to face the fact that Dave's popularity is more widespread than you try to imply.

[stoney]

Hi Stoney .. thought I'd not comment on last night because I didn't want to be predictable....
however as I have been labelled a 'Dave Hater' by a number of his fans, I'll respond by saying that yes, I do hate the idea of him still being there and am entirely puzzled as to how he managed to be kept in, I get the unnerving feeling that something isn't adding up (percentages of votes?)
My hope now is that Dave does Win, because ultimately, the higher he climbs the harder he will fall.
I want to see Dave and his organisation thoroughly investigated. As a BB Winner. closer scrutiny of who he is and what he is all about will be inevitable. He isn't the usual everyday Winner who the Media have found it easy to all but ignore as in the past few years .. He has the potential to drag a lot of people into his 'belief system' ... I'm counting on the Press having a field day.
The most important question is whether Dave and his troops are the benign beings his supporters claim they are, or not, I'd like the facts either way and yes, I will apologise if I am found to be wrong .
PS .. In case anybody cares (lol) I had just written much the same as above in another 'venue' .. I haven't 'copied' anyone elses thoughts on the matter.

housemate....I wouldn't call you a dave hater.
I leave that badge to the ones who happily called themselves that in a dave hate thread a few days ago that have not shown face since sammy and jj1 got their butts kicked off the show:dance:

Unfortunately I couldn't care less about what any of the inmates do outside the show. I know I should but thats not why I watch this gameshow.

The simple reason dave is still in there is that he has been a good laugh a lot of the time in the house, despite the backbiting he has done.

I suspect that his "best offs" will be as long as Corin's,who, for me , was the only shocker last night, and probably one of the best of the season

As for press investigations into Dave and his church/cult/lot, I cant believe that if he is as bad as some make out that the papers have not already doen anything about it. They dont usually show as much restraint as they seem to be doing here:conf:

[housemate]

who will your vote go to , or will you not bother to vote?

jj2 that has been so horrid behind Corin's back:conf:
andrew that has done......( insert anything that you can think of cos I cant think of anything):conf:

Switched LF off, not intersted in the HLs, not voting but will be tuning in to see how Andrew and Josie get on in the Final.
Andrew has more integrity than most of the other HMs put together, not a prized trait these days clearly.

[as90]

It's amusing that a handful of people on a forum think they know who a whole country will vote for, or that Dave has not one single fan outside of wales. I think there is still room for people to change their minds over the next few days. Anybody could win.

[Crimson Dynamo]

Licking their wounds, regrouping, searching the net for more videos, regenerating venom, no doubt they will be back soon enough pouring out more hate for Dave.


diddums

[fingers]

More people live in London than live in Wales and Scotland combined. People are going to have to face the fact that Dave's popularity is more widespread than you try to imply.

Simply because the voters only have the HL show to judge by!

Frankly i don't care if he wins now, because he will be outed as a charlatan when he gets out, and he knows that.

[housemate]

housemate....I wouldn't call you a dave hater.
I leave that badge to the ones who happily called themselves that in a dave hate thread a few days ago that have not shown face since sammy and jj1 got their butts kicked off the show:dance:

Unfortunately I couldn't care less about what any of the inmates do outside the show. I know I should but thats not why I watch this gameshow.

The simple reason dave is still in there is that he has been a good laugh a lot of the time in the house, despite the backbiting he has done.

I suspect that his "best offs" will be as long as Corin's,who, for me , was the only shocker last night, and probably one of the best of the season

As for press investigations into Dave and his church/cult/lot, I cant believe that if he is as bad as some make out that the papers have not already doen anything about it. They dont usually show as much restraint as they seem to be doing here:conf:

Well, as we did a few days ago, we'll have to agree to disagree about our opposing impression of Dave (in the house) but I'd love to have had the chance to witness your reaction to all the times I've watched the man behave in ways, which I've not been shy in commenting on, and which have formed my low opinion of him.

I have no explanation for the lack of interest shown by the Press re Dave either, if he wins I'm counting on that changing .. who knows, maybe I am wrong about the New E's, but at this moment in time, every fibre of my being is telling me differently.

[Livia]

Simply because the voters only have the HL show to judge by!

Frankly i don't care if he wins now, because he will be outed as a charlatan when he gets out, and he knows that.

It'd be impossible for me to watch live feed because I have a job that takes up a lot of my time and I have to sleep. The News is only edited highlights about what's happened in the world, but we are all able to make informed judgements about what's going on.

I don't think Dave will win, but I'm not devastated he's in the final.

[Peter Plunker]

The Sun newspaper did an article on Dave months ago, it was great, keep up guys.

:D

[Kaaarenn!]

I was going to say no Dave won't win but after Corin went last night, I'm not going to say anything :conf: I think we should all expect the unexpected :laugh:

[housemate]

It'd be impossible for me to watch live feed because I have a job that takes up a lot of my time and I have to sleep. The News is only edited highlights about what's happened in the world, but we are all able to make informed judgements about what's going on.
I don't think Dave will win, but I'm not devastated he's in the final.

Thats what has fascinated (and frightened) me more than anything else, (not just referring to Dave) ... the ability (albeit on a silly game show in this instance) to edit a situation to the degree where an entirely opposite storyline/meaning/personality etc.. is shown as what would appear to be fact!!
For quite some time now, if something serious comes up in the news, I look into the views from the other side of the conflict ... Al Jeezera News has been an education for helping to get a bit of a balanced perspective.

[housemate]

The Sun newspaper did an article on Dave months ago, it was great, keep up guys.

:D

Hardly call that article an indepth study lol

[Peter Plunker]

Hardly call that article an indepth study lol

An in depth study? There's not much to study, all of the juicy stuff has been made up by forum members.

[fingers]

An in depth study? There's not much to study, all of the juicy stuff has been made up by forum members.

All the real juicy stuff has been deleted from YouTube! lol:sleep:

[Livia]

Thats what has fascinated (and frightened) me more than anything else, (not just referring to Dave) ... the ability (albeit on a silly game show in this instance) to edit a situation to the degree where an entirely opposite storyline/meaning/personality etc.. is shown as what would appear to be fact!!
For quite some time now, if something serious comes up in the news, I look into the views from the other side of the conflict ... Al Jeezera News has been an education for helping to get a bit of a balanced perspective.

I understand how the news works. I understand on a professional basis the power of the written and spoken word and how it can be misinterpreted or twisted by editing. Good to see you're usuing Al Jazeera only as a balance for news because they only tell you what they want you to hear, just like everyone else. For instance, I notice there wasn't much on A Jazeera about the couple stoned to death for adultery in Afghanistan recently, or the pregnant woman lashed two hundred times and then shot in the head while the man accused with her was let off with no punishment at all. Everyone is edited. Even BB live feed is edited.

[housemate]

An in depth study? There's not much to study, all of the juicy stuff has been made up by forum members.

Maybe the day is coming when I (hopefully) will be able to agree with you.
How will you respond if you are wrong?

[housemate]

I understand how the news works. I understand on a professional basis the power of the written and spoken word and how it can be misinterpreted or twisted by editing. Good to see you're usuing Al Jazeera only as a balance for news because they only tell you what they want you to hear, just like everyone else. For instance, I notice there wasn't much on A Jazeera about the couple stoned to death for adultery in Afghanistan recently, or the pregnant woman lashed two hundred times and then shot in the head while the man accused with her was let off with no punishment at all. Everyone is edited. Even BB live feed is edited.

Thats exactly my point ... how many compatriots of those you have written about above, will disbelieve it ever happened because it was never shown!
The editing on BB has misrepresented some of the HMs to an appalling degree.. its frustrating beyond belief to argue a point raised through LF when courtesy of the editing on HLs it has appeared as nothing more than'harmless'.

[DrunkerThanMoses]

Not all welsh people will vote for him... im not.

He wont win, I suspect he will get 3rd or runner up... hopefully thrid.

[housemate]

Livia, you called me out yesterday (quite right too lol) for going way off topic .. seems I'm doing it again (Sorry everyone blush!)
I'm going to leave now so that people can get on with the thread ... take care.

[stoney]

Thats exactly my point ... how many compatriots of those you have written about above, will disbelieve it ever happened because it was never shown!
The editing on BB has misrepresented some of the HMs to an appalling degree.. its frustrating beyond belief to argue a point raised through LF when courtesy of the editing on HLs it has appeared as nothing more than'harmless'.

housemate, they are all editted to a degree and storylines changed to suit the purpose of the program makers.

altho a clever edit can change things the people must have actually done the things in the first place.

I have seen dave being not too nice on LF but also seen him have a really good laugh with nearly everyone with a very wicked sense of humour that some just dont seem to get. I simply like his humorous side more. Not all LF viewers dislike Dave as much as some.
We all watch the same prog but see different things. Its the beauty of the prog and the main reason I really hope CH5 take it

Can i suggest tho, if you really want dave to be fully scrutanised that you do lend him your vote in the final so he has more of a chance of winning:conf:
( long shot:joker:)

[housemate]

Rofl .. got to love a trier! Not one hope in Hades lol! But I will wish you luck if he is who you are rooting for xx

[Peter Plunker]

How will you respond if you are wrong?

I'm not. There's nothing to report, the worst they could write about him has been written

[Livia]

Thats exactly my point ... how many compatriots of those you have written about above, will disbelieve it ever happened because it was never shown!
The editing on BB has misrepresented some of the HMs to an appalling degree.. its frustrating beyond belief to argue a point raised through LF when courtesy of the editing on HLs it has appeared 'harmless'.

I didn't see that stuff about executions on the news, and yet I know about it. I know because I read about it online and in the newspaper. It's the same with Big Brother. I don't get to see everything but I fill in the gaps by reading and hearing what other people have said.

Someone asked a question on here a while back: should be two separate forums, one for those who watch live feed and another for those who only watch the highlights. At the time I said I didn't agree because it's good to fill in the gaps by reading the conflicting opinions of those watching live feed. But there seems to be this strange apartheid appearing where live feed viewers think those who watch only the highlights are not able to form opinions because they feel they are not fully informed.

[fingers]

I didn't see that stuff about executions on the news, and yet I know about it. I know because I read about it online and in the newspaper. It's the same with Big Brother. I don't get to see everything but I fill in the gaps by reading and hearing what other people have said.

Someone asked a question on here a while back: should be two separate forums, one for those who watch live feed and another for those who only watch the highlights. At the time I said I didn't agree because it's good to fill in the gaps by reading the conflicting opinions of those watching live feed. But there seems to be this strange apartheid appearing where live feed viewers think those who watch only the highlights are not able to form opinions because they feel they are not fully informed.

Well I DID see the executions and beheadings online (before the site was taken down). I didn't have to see them to believe that it happened and I stopped watching them because they were so SICKENING and they were being carried out by people who could well be neighbours.
Just because you don't see Vids doesn't mean they don't exist.

[Beso]

Dave went into the house to be judged as Dave, not dave the minister..he has been judged, he has made the final, I think that tells us all we have to know about his personality.

[housemate]

But there seems to be this strange apartheid appearing where live feed viewers think those who watch only the highlights are not able to form opinions because they feel they are not fully informed.

Going now .. promise.
It sounds like the frustration venting to me.
Everyone is capable of forming their own opinion from the HLs but there is a big difference when you see the context, hear all the words spoken and by whom they were said.
Stoney says he watches both HL and LF, he doesn't see what I see, so maybe you are right ... I can honestly say though that as much as I clearly dislike Dave, I have tried to keep a neutral view over the weeks when watching him .. lol, it doesn't help!

[Beso]

But there seems to be this strange apartheid appearing where live feed viewers think those who watch only the highlights are not able to form opinions because they feel they are not fully informed.

Going now .. promise.
It sounds like the frustration venting to me.
Everyone is capable of forming their own opinion from the HLs but there is a big difference when you see the context, hear all the words spoken and by whom they were said.
Stoney says he watches both HL and LF, he doesn't see what I see, so maybe you are right ... I can honestly say though that as much as I clearly dislike Dave, I have tried to keep a neutral view over the weeks when watching him .. lol, it doesn't help!

Hi, even watching live feed you don't get the full picture.


Not one housemate has had a bad word to say about Dave after leaving the house,nor when in the house. He has gotten on with young and old alike, male and female..that to me says a lot more than someones point of view on a forum.

[Jords]

I thought that said architect in the title for a second xD

[housemate]

Hi, even watching live feed you don't get the full picture.


Not one housemate has had a bad word to say about Dave after leaving the house,nor when in the house. He has gotten on with young and old alike, male and female..that to me says a lot more than someones point of view on a forum.

Thats a terrible argument, it reinforces what I've said in past threads ... Dave is the Best Friend anyone could wish for, he's supportive and kind ... until you turn your back!!
Not one Housemate has been aware that he has done that to him .. yet.
BTW, why did Ben call him Judas ... as for the rest, I think we need to wait untill they are all out and have watched the tapes back .. don't you

[Shasown]

diddums

Arrr whats the matter poppet, is his god better than your god, or does Dave know better prayers?












In the Glory

[MJBFAN]

I would imagine that corin fans would back dave, he was pretty good to her and also steve fans.

I'm a Corin fan and I will certanly not be backing Dave FTW.:nono:

[paper-cut-exit]

Dave and Crowder's video claiming to heal the sick in India has made it into the News of the World anyway. Hopefully more newspapers will now start doing the same!

http://www.newsoftheworld.co.uk/showbiz/big_brother/915312/Our-video-shows-BBs-resident-crackpot-minister-claming-he-can-cure-the-disabled.html

[MJBFAN]

Dave and Crowder's video claiming to heal the sick in India has made it into the News of the World anyway. Hopefully more newspapers will now start doing the same!

http://www.newsoftheworld.co.uk/showbiz/big_brother/915312/Our-video-shows-BBs-resident-crackpot-minister-claming-he-can-cure-the-disabled.html

I was just about to try and find that link:wavey:

Dave on the Highlights is not the Dave I have seen on the Live feed.
The LF Dave is not a very nice guy.

[luminoussun]

op i think you will find the location of the multiple vote was not in wales...it was a gang organisation...it has happened before...the reason it was stopped

plus who gives a **** what dave done before bb...we should judge him purely on the house