Why Should John James Have Apologised to Rachel?

[PantherBlack]

imo John James had/has nothing to say sorry for in regards to Rachel. Sure, they argued, she stood her ground, he stood his.

I find the whole gender issue raised by Josie, Corin and even Davina (during the interview) to be total BS.

I've been watching John James since the start and he pretty much stands his ground and argues with anyone, and this whole 'he only argues with women' is crap.

Also, why should a woman get special treatment?

When Josie said, (words to the effect of): ''You shouldn't argue with women John, be a gentleman''.

He SHOULD have replied, ''Well women shouldn't argue either, as it's not very ladylike''.

If only he had the intellect to make such a response. Sadly, he was too stupid to.

[LaLaLand]

It's not the fact she's a woman really, it's that he said something EXTREMELY degrading and offensive.

It's like her saying to him "I bet you'd shag Josie if she paid you", it's still very, very offensive.

I guess the fact she's a woman doesn't help really but imo gender doesn't matter this time.

[zukhov]

Didn't he say ' the only thing you would not do for money is shag someone' ? or worlds to that effect. where was the insult? He literally said she was not a *****. To Rachel 1 thats more like a compliment.

[stoney]

he should have apologised cos he was very nasty and totally in the wrong.

Remember he is the inmate that had told producers BEFORE coming into the house that he would do full nude shots for any gay mag that wants him to after the show, as long as he was allowed to photoshop his willy.
So its ok for him to go in the house with the intention of selling dirty pictures of himself after being evicted but none of the girls are allowed, in his world, to do any photoshoots on the back of being in there????

[PantherBlack]

^ Stupid replies here and they don't really address the OP. Shameful.

[Stacey.]

I'm on Rachael's side and everything but I agree. He shouldn't have to apologize.

[Wee-Mo]

Didn't he say ' the only thing you would not do for money is shag someone' ? or worlds to that effect. where was the insult? He literally said she was not a *****. To Rachel 1 thats more like a compliment.

Spot on but the corin fans and JJ haters just had to jump on him Rachel started on JJ as soon as he went into the room just because he did not fancy her she was p'd off with him what a horrible bitch she was

[Zippy]

He should apologise to Rachael for many things actually. She never did a single thing to him in BB. His comments during the massage were downright offensive and disgusting.

But if the OP still doesnt get it then I won't even waste my time explaining. I can only assume youre of the same mindset as the rude, scrawny mess himself. Ho hum.

[PantherBlack]

Wee-Mo, if you are to quote and agree with anyone it should be me. My OP was the best post in this thread and the fact you skimmed it is disgraceful.

[Adamw92]

He most definitely should apologise, the offensive little *****, that comment was extremely offensive

[PantherBlack]

He should apologise to Rachael for many things actually. She never did a single thing to him in BB. His comments during the massage were downright offensive and disgusting.

But if the OP still doesnt get it then I won't even waste my time explaining. I can only assume youre of the same mindset as the rude, scrawny mess himself. Ho hum.

Why should HE apologise?

I am PROUD he was a real man and actually took her to task! Instead of sucking up to her in an attempt to get laid he stood his ground and wasn't impressed at her whole 'poor little woman' act (the first time round) and didn't cave in either this time when she was more assertive.

Good on John! Let's raise a pint in his honour!

[Zippy]

Why should HE apologise?

I am PROUD he was a real man and actually took her to task! Instead of sucking up to her in an attempt to get laid he stood his ground and wasn't impressed at her whole 'poor little woman' act (the first time round) and didn't cave in either this time when she was more assertive.

Good on John! Let's raise a pint in his honour!

A real man?!!! LMFAO

Yeah he looked like a real man when he was cacking his pants and blubbing like a baby at the thought of Nathan coming after him for his comments! So what exactly was he afraid of if he didnt think he'd said anything offensive to her? Why were the whole house berating him for his comment?

Take her to task? Jesus christ, what is it with folk like you that thinks a good looking woman somehow has to justify herself? Are you effing serious?

Rachael doesnt have to justify herself to ANYBODY least of all a scrawny, nasty, issue riddled hypocritical LIAR like John James. He has about 86 faults of his own to sort out before he goes around rudely pointing out those of others! Who the fook does he think he is?

And reading your posts you certainly do seem to be of the same mindset so...I fail to care about your opinion frankly. :xyxwave:

[Julie10]

Why should HE apologise?

I am PROUD he was a real man and actually took her to task! Instead of sucking up to her in an attempt to get laid he stood his ground and wasn't impressed at her whole 'poor little woman' act (the first time round) and didn't cave in either this time when she was more assertive.

Good on John! Let's raise a pint in his honour!

:sleep::sleep::sleep:

[Ammi]

A real man?!!! LMFAO

Yeah he looked like a real man when he was cacking his pants and blubbing like a baby at the thought of Nathan coming after him for his comments! So what exactly was he afraid of if he didnt think he'd said anything offensive to her? Why were the whole house berating him for his comment?

Take her to task? Jesus christ, what is it with folk like you that thinks a good looking woman somehow has to justify herself? Are you effing serious?

Rachael doesnt have to justify herself to ANYBODY least of all a scrawny, nasty, issue riddled hypocritical LIAR like John James. He has about 86 faults of his own to sort out before he goes around rudely pointing out those of others! Who the fook does he think he is?

And reading your posts you certainly do seem to be of the same mindset so...I fail to care about your opinion frankly. :xyxwave:

Perfectlly said - just to add that Crabby, himself couldn't wait to apologise when he realised Nathan was in the picture - if you're going to go round insulting people like you couldn't give a rip you should have the guts to stand up to your convictions not cack yourself when someone takes you task.

[Livia]

^ Stupid replies here and they don't really address the OP. Shameful.

I think the replies addressed the OP's comments. Because they don't agree doesn't make them wrong.

John James is a spineless, ill-mannered, ill-bred little creep. If he had anything about him he would apologise for letting his smart mouth run away with him.

[Mystic Mock]

He should apologise to Rachael for many things actually. She never did a single thing to him in BB. His comments during the massage were downright offensive and disgusting.

But if the OP still doesnt get it then I won't even waste my time explaining. I can only assume youre of the same mindset as the rude, scrawny mess himself. Ho hum.

i only think he should apologise to her for how he treated her in week 1 not when she came back imo.

[Julesuk]

Didn't he say ' the only thing you would not do for money is shag someone' ? or worlds to that effect. where was the insult? He literally said she was not a *****. To Rachel 1 thats more like a compliment.

that is what he said and your right I didnt really get why everyone went off on one, he was basically saying you would do anything but have sex for money. Referring to getting her kit off for the camera - which is her choice I know but some blokes find that degrading. Both there attitudes sucked but because shes the woman it must be the blokes fault - and Im a bloody woman

[Macie Lightfoot]

I'm on Rachael's side and everything but I agree. He shouldn't have to apologize.

ffs get off of John James's dick and actually have morals Stacey.

[Stacey.]

ffs get off of John James's dick and actually have morals Stacey.

D:

I do agree he went too far.. Rachael was my favourite the first week, I couldn't stand him actually.

[Raph]

He should apologize to Rachel, Rachael and Corin!

[Zippy]

He should apologise to Australia for shaming the image of an Aussie male.

[Kazanne]

I'm on Rachael's side and everything but I agree. He shouldn't have to apologize.

Of course he should apologize if he has upset someone ,it's common decency.i was brought up that way anyway,but I know manners aren't too high on parents agendas today.

[Kazanne]

Can someone tell me ?What the EFF is it Crabbys business what anyone does inside or outside the house?serious question,I mean really, why does he think people have to answer to him?

[boomoo]

he should have apologised cos he was very nasty and totally in the wrong.

Remember he is the inmate that had told producers BEFORE coming into the house that he would do full nude shots for any gay mag that wants him to after the show, as long as he was allowed to photoshop his willy.
So its ok for him to go in the house with the intention of selling dirty pictures of himself after being evicted but none of the girls are allowed, in his world, to do any photoshoots on the back of being in there????

His whole time in the house was a lie. On BBBM he did not say No, when asked if he would do a photo shoot for a 6 figure sum. He said he would have to ask Josie.
That is why he is hanging around to make money out of Josie.
He attacked Rachael because she was good looking. He would not have given Josie a second glance if she was walking down a street in Melbourne.

[Zippy]

He attacked Rachael because hot looking women like her probably drop him when they realise his sexual issues. Which he obviously has. I mean, what 24yr old man announces he could happily go without sex for the rest of his life?

One with serious sexual issues, thats who!

Somebody like Josie is more obtainable because she's likely to be more forgiving of his bedroom inefficiencies. He's scared of Beautiful women I reckon. Has he ever told Josie she's beautiful? Ive never heard it!

[Kazanne]

He attacked Rachael because hot looking women like her probably drop him when they realise his sexual issues. Which he obviously has. I mean, what 24yr old man announces he could happily go without sex for the rest of his life?

One with serious sexual issues, thats who!

Somebody like Josie is more obtainable because she's likely to be more forgiving of his bedroom inefficiencies. He's scared of Beautiful women I reckon. Has he ever told Josie she's beautiful? Ive never heard it!

He said when he first went into the house that Corin was one of the prettiest women he had ever seen,and Yes i think you are right he is scared of beautiful women as he could never live up to their expectations.

[sosadbbend]

He attacked Rachael because hot looking women like her probably drop him when they realise his sexual issues. Which he obviously has. I mean, what 24yr old man announces he could happily go without sex for the rest of his life?

One with serious sexual issues, thats who!

Somebody like Josie is more obtainable because she's likely to be more forgiving of his bedroom inefficiencies. He's scared of Beautiful women I reckon. Has he ever told Josie she's beautiful? Ive never heard it!

I wouldn't call Rachael beautiful, she thinks she is, but beauty comes from inside and what I saw of her there wasn't much evidence of that

[Kazanne]

I wouldn't call Rachael beautiful, she thinks she is, but beauty comes from inside and what I saw of her there wasn't much evidence of that

We didn't get to know her properly,she may have been really nice given the chance!!

[Zippy]

I wouldn't call Rachael beautiful, she thinks she is, but beauty comes from inside and what I saw of her there wasn't much evidence of that

Y'know it always makes me giggle when John james fans start yapping about decency and bad attitudes in other HMs. I mean, you really should check your consistency.

Nobody has behaved more despicably than him in this series. It seems his fans are as full of hypocrisy as the man himself. Figures I guess. Like attracts like.

[luminoussun]

but she did not call him a rent boy?
He stepped over the line with "the only thing you would turn down is sex for money"
Now he is doing the same mags he slagged her off for doing?

[sosadbbend]

Y'know it always makes me giggle when John james fans start yapping about decency and bad attitudes in other HMs. I mean, you really should check your consistency.

Nobody has behaved more despicably than him in this series. It seems his fans are as full of hypocrisy as the man himself. Figures I guess. Like attracts like.

It's not just his fans that are obsessed with him obviously:sleep:

[30stone]

It's not the fact she's a woman really, it's that he said something EXTREMELY degrading and offensive.

It's like her saying to him "I bet you'd shag Josie if she paid you", it's still very, very offensive.

I guess the fact she's a woman doesn't help really but imo gender doesn't matter this time.

No he said the only thing you wouldnt do is have sex for money..

[Zippy]

No he said the only thing you wouldnt do is have sex for money..

which leaves room for tons of other stuff! It was certainly meant as a huge insult. That much we can all agree on.

[30stone]

which leaves room for tons of other stuff! It was certainly meant as a huge insult. That much we can all agree on.

Of course i was just pointing out the mistake though..

Anyway lets be honest, she would do a lot for money no doubt lol.

[tuesday1962]

It really amazes me that John James fans still thinks that he can do no wrong.

I personally think that John James would have been fairly surprised that Rachael had said very little to the press of John James's treatment of her, considering that he thought that Rachael would do anything for media attention or money.

The fact that Rachael stayed clear of exploiting that angle and basically got on with her life is a credit to her and further shows that she has no need or use to profit from another person’s fortune or in John James case misfortune.

That fact that Rachael was unable to get out of her contract for the returnable task which she had to argue to get it amended so that she was to give rather than received a massage from John James speak volumes in itself.

The fact that what John James said in the task room and then repeated in full bragging mode to the rest of the housemates what he truly meant by saying it stunned and appalled most of them that he would go.

The fact that Rachael declined/refused to appear on BBBM after he got evicted to cause John James further embarrassment to him or his family is more telling how she wouldn’t go beyond the bounds of common decency to beg for or expect his apology as it probably would be a hollow one and just for the cameras.

Like most of the housemates who were expecting this was going to be one of the happiest, fun fill enjoyment and experience and of their lives until they had the misfortune to be in the same house with John James. I felt Rachael’s experience was totally ruined by John James as direct result of treatment towards her and imo an apology to her is long overdue.

John James has proven to be a hypocrite and I hope he disappears quite quickly from memory too.

[Zippy]

Anyway lets be honest, she would do a lot for money no doubt lol.

I actually disagree. Honestly.

A woman who looks the spit of Beyonce like her would have had all kinds of offers by now. She has been working internationally as a Beyonce lookalike. No doubt numerous people have contacted to do all kinds of sexy, risky stuff. Bet she's been offered money for sex a few times too.

But the fact that NOTHING came out about her that was shameful in the press just shows she has lived a clean and decent life.

Still she hasnt gone naked. She wouldve taken the offers while BB was still airing if she intended to do so. Bigger money now than later when its off air.

So I think all of this proves you AND John James wrong. The girl clearly has a line she will not cross. I totally believed her when she said that she's turned down lots of offers. She's never been caught out in a lie. Unlike John James!

[cheapbbfan]

what he said was disgusting and if he were any type of decent man, he would have apologized

[stonedape]

For the first fight, she deserves an apology. For the second fight, she doesn't. She approached the first one politely, but she came in looking for a fight last week. She got it.

[Sammi_Who]

The more burning question should be, why did he apologise to Nathan? It was Rachel he offended and then bragged she "copped it" :mad:

[Sammi_Who]

It really amazes me that John James fans still thinks that he can do no wrong.

I personally think that John James would have been fairly surprised that Rachael had said very little to the press of John James's treatment of her, considering that he thought that Rachael would do anything for media attention or money.

The fact that Rachael stayed clear of exploiting that angle and basically got on with her life is a credit to her and further shows that she has no need or use to profit from another person’s fortune or in John James case misfortune.

That fact that Rachael was unable to get out of her contract for the returnable task which she had to argue to get it amended so that she was to give rather than received a massage from John James speak volumes in itself.

The fact that what John James said in the task room and then repeated in full bragging mode to the rest of the housemates what he truly meant by saying it stunned and appalled most of them that he would go.

The fact that Rachael declined/refused to appear on BBBM after he got evicted to cause John James further embarrassment to him or his family is more telling how she wouldn’t go beyond the bounds of common decency to beg for or expect his apology as it probably would be a hollow one and just for the cameras.

Like most of the housemates who were expecting this was going to be one of the happiest, fun fill enjoyment and experience and of their lives until they had the misfortune to be in the same house with John James. I felt Rachael’s experience was totally ruined by John James as direct result of treatment towards her and imo an apology to her is long overdue.
John James has proven to be a hypocrite and I hope he disappears quite quickly from memory too.

I agree, he ruined Corin's too.

I think Davina was right when she said Corin underestimated JJs fans, and how he could do no wrong in their eyes. They voted her out, and Racheal too. It was quite disgusting to see all both women did "wrong" was be at the recieving end of his angry rant fueled bullying. Its ridiculous. We've moved from the "fit" guy being able to sail through to the final on looks, to pretty much bullying :nono:

[Jack_]

He's scared of Beautiful women I reckon.

...and I reckon the reason for that is because he was probably bullied by the 'hot' girls at school for his height [like he said he was].

[rusticgal]

Totally agree with OP.... John has his opinions and he sticks to them... he is right she is a slag and will do anything for money.
Its an opinion...why should anyone have to apologise.

[Kazanne]

Totally agree with OP.... John has his opinions and he sticks to them... he is right she is a slag and will do anything for money.
Its an opinion...why should anyone have to apologise.

Do you KNOW Rachael?it figures you are a Crabby fan,you even think like him,NO one should stick to an opinion if they don't know the truth,WHY do you and him think she is a slag?and will do anything for money,it's a bit presumtuous to judge someone like that,but I suppose you believe ANYTHING Crabby states,and what the eff has it to do with him anyway,your obsession with him is over the top:joker:

[tuesday1962]

Totally agree with OP.... John has his opinions and he sticks to them... he is right she is a slag and will do anything for money.
Its an opinion...why should anyone have to apologise.

It a pity you have to use derogative words to label a housemates just because you can. Try proving your point without name calling as up there with the lowest for of wit.

Hopefully in a few months time with the fall from of this series, you will probably see why most people think that some of the housemates especially Rachael is owed an apology from John James.