To all the people claiming its a fix.

[daniel-lewis-1985]

Why on earth would BB want the Final of BB11 to be full of bores? Why are you all so convinced that they did it to illiminate the competition so Josie can win?

What exactly would they gain from this except loads of abuse from fans?

Its not a fix its the public making stupid decisions.

DEAL WITH IT

[Jack_]

It's got nothing to do with the public. After ten years everyone knows how the public votes in Vote to Evict. So the producers definitely do.

At the end of the day, it's fairly obvious that no one [or at least most casual viewers] are going to was 50p to vote for JJ, Andrew, Mario etc. So the big characters go.

[Zippy]

No its the producers making STUPID STUPID STUPID decisions!

They should have predicted that the public would then make more stupid decisions.

Dumbest decision in BB history and its totally ruined the end of this series. No question. Just get on with UBB now because nobody cares about BB11 anymore.

[daniel-lewis-1985]

It's got nothing to do with the public. After ten years everyone knows how the public votes in Vote to Evict. So the producers definitely do.

At the end of the day, it's fairly obvious that no one [or at least most casual viewers] are going to was 50p to vote for JJ, Andrew, Mario etc. So the big characters go.


Hey walking contradiction! You say its nothing to do with the public then say everyone knows how the public votes to evict...yawn.

Yes it was silly on the producers behalf to not do a vote to save and i was as fuming as everyone else on friday. Infact i threw my remote control accross my room lol.

But its not a FIX

[Livia]

Okay, this is how it works: The people voted out on Friday were voted out becasuse the majority of those voting didn't want them in there. They got the MOST VOTES.

The public aren't as stupid as you're making out. You're just sore because the final is without the ones you personally liked. Tough. That's the way the sausage rolls.

[Jack_]

Hey walking contradiction! You say its nothing to do with the public then say everyone knows how the public votes to evict...yawn.

Yes it was silly on the producers behalf to not do a vote to save and i was as fuming as everyone else on friday. Infact i threw my remote control accross my room lol.

But its not a FIX

It's nothing to do with the public in the sense that it's not their fault the big characters left.

It's the producers, because they know how the public vote [i.e badly].

[daniel-lewis-1985]

It's nothing to do with the public in the sense that it's not their fault the big characters left.

It's the producers, because they know how the public vote [i.e badly].

The public voted them out lol!

[Jack_]

The public voted them out lol!

Yes but that was obviously going to happen from the moment when the Vote to Evict was announced.

It's the producers fault because they're the ones that chose to stage a Vote to Evict :p

[Bigbrofan25]

Why on earth would BB want the Final of BB11 to be full of bores? Why are you all so convinced that they did it to illiminate the competition so Josie can win?

What exactly would they gain from this except loads of abuse from fans?

Its not a fix its the public making stupid decisions.

DEAL WITH IT

It is the public with what happened last friday but the producers shouldn`t have had a 4 way eviction in one night they new it was a risk

But yes I don`t think it was a fix just a stupid idea and stupid BB voters :sleep:

[Vicky.]

Okay, this is how it works: The people voted out on Friday were voted out becasuse the majority of those voting didn't want them in there. They got the MOST VOTES.


Err no thats not how it works with vote to evict at all. It does not mean the majority dont want them in there.

Lets say for example Corin has 3million fans and 1 million detractors.

The rest of the housemates have only 500,000 fans... and 200,000 detractors each.

So, 200,000 people are going to vote to evict the others, whilst 1million are going to evict Corin despite her having a lot more fans. The only way for Corin fans to save corin is to vote over 800,000 times for EACH other housemate.

I know the numbers are totally wrong, but I was just using examples...




Edit. Just realised you said those voting which is sort of true. Will leave the above post though for the people who seem to think vote to save would have had the same effect as vote to evict though :)

[Zippy]

The public voted them out lol!

Did you see Dave, Andrew, Mario or JJ2 much on last weeks HL shows? No!

Out of sight out of mind. Stupid quad eviction. Stupid favoured editing. All down to the producers.

[daniel-lewis-1985]

Look im fully aware that it should have been a vote to save ive been saying that all week! thats not the point of the thread

Im just saying it was not a fix as some silly posters keep posting which has been getting right on my nerves

[Livia]

Err no thats not how it works with vote to evict at all. It does not mean the majority dont want them in there.

Lets say for example Corin has 3million fans and 1 million detractors.

The rest of the housemates have only 500,000 fans... and 200,000 detractors each.

So, 200,000 people are going to vote to evict the others, whilst 1million are going to evict Corin despite her having a lot more fans. The only way for Corin fans to save corin is to vote over 800,000 times for EACH other housemate.

I know the numbers are totally wrong, but I was just using examples...


Errr... They got the most votes. I'm not talking about who's got the most fans, I said they got the most votes. That's what I said. Isn't that right then? Are you saying those left in the house got more votes than the ones who left?

I understand the difference between a vote to evict and a vote to save. The bottom line is, those who left on Fridaycollected more votes than those who stayed, whichever way you cut it up.

[Zippy]

Look im fully aware that it should have been a vote to save ive been saying that all week! thats not the point of the thread

Im just saying it was not a fix as some silly posters keep posting which has been getting right on my nerves

No I dont think it was a fix. Just sloppiness and very ill thought out ideas. Its obvious that a lot of their ideas this series were just pulled out their asses at the last minute.

Incompetence. Simple as.

[Omah]

Why on earth would BB want the Final of BB11 to be full of bores? Why are you all so convinced that they did it to illiminate the competition so Josie can win?


Because PEJ, as a joke, wants a Goody clone to win his soap-opera - it's an ego thing for him ..... ;)

[daniel-lewis-1985]

No I dont think it was a fix. Just sloppiness and very ill thought out ideas. Its obvious that a lot of their ideas this series were just pulled out their asses at the last minute.

Incompetence. Simple as.

Exactly.

Imagine how good the final coulda been if it was a vote to save. Probably one of the best finals in bb history.

Now we have a 1 horse race lol.

Love Josie though

[Omah]

The public voted them out lol!

The "public" couldn't care less about BBHMs - the HL "viewers" are mainly in the teen to twenties demographic and the "voters" are mostly pre-teen females .....

[Vicky.]

Errr... They got the most votes. I'm not talking about who's got the most fans, I said they got the most votes. That's what I said. Isn't that right then? Are you saying those left in the house got more votes than the ones who left?

I understand the difference between a vote to evict and a vote to save. The bottom line is, those who left on Fridaycollected more votes than those who stayed, whichever way you cut it up.

Yeah I edited it afterwards, read your post totally wrong :laugh:

[Zippy]

Exactly.

Imagine how good the final coulda been if it was a vote to save. Probably one of the best finals in bb history.



Yes, Corin, Sam and Josie wouldve had a right battle royale for victory. Very exciting final. But now...

JJ2 out first. Josie out last. The other 3 scrambling for the remaining places!

:sleep::sleep::sleep:

[hannahsgotchya]

who would actually be bothered to pick up the phone and vote to evict bloody andrew? proberly 2 out of 100. of course The producers knew this, it wasnt a fix but they knew what they were doing. If it were to win definetly proberly sam would win with john james, corin, josie and maybe dave in the final.
There would earn way much more money as well, big brother, i mean, could you imagine! the voting lines would crash, £££!

[Beastie]

Why on earth would BB want the Final of BB11 to be full of bores? Why are you all so convinced that they did it to illiminate the competition so Josie can win?

What exactly would they gain from this except loads of abuse from fans?

Its not a fix its the public making stupid decisions.

DEAL WITH IT

I agree. Couldn't care less who wins now!

Just so happy Skippy got evicted on Friday :dance:

[Mystic Mock]

Why on earth would BB want the Final of BB11 to be full of bores? Why are you all so convinced that they did it to illiminate the competition so Josie can win?

What exactly would they gain from this except loads of abuse from fans?

Its not a fix its the public making stupid decisions.

DEAL WITH IT

they do it so the public think josie will win and the people that dont want josie to win will go for the best edited housemate on the highlights, and then people will be in shock that josie aint won, but little do they realise they have gave what big brother wants.

[Jords]

They fixed it for a Josie win, and Im not normally one to shout the odds about a show being a stich-up but this series its been so blatent.

The only other time before that I recall so obviously was when they changed it to a vote to save to get rid of Hira/save Lisa last year.

[daniel-lewis-1985]

The "public" couldn't care less about BBHMs - the HL "viewers" are mainly in the teen to twenties demographic and the "voters" are mostly pre-teen females .....

They still voted out the characters though

[daniel-lewis-1985]

They fixed it for a Josie win, and Im not normally one to shout the odds about a show being a stich-up but this series its been so blatent.

The only other time before that I recall so obviously was when they changed it to a vote to save to get rid of Hira/save Lisa last year.

Why would they want Josie to win? What would they possibly gain from that?

Your talking pish

[Jords]

Why would they want Josie to win? What would they possibly gain from that?

Your talking pish

Believe what you want but its clear that shes been the producers favourite all series!

pish? nice word NAT.

[Beastie]

Josie got the free ticket to the final.

I think whoever would have got the free ticket to the final it would have still been a vote to evict......

[Beastie]

Josie and Corin.. the only girls left.

If Corin got the pass to the final.. then she would have won bb11.

Now Josie has got it.. she is going to win!

[hannahsgotchya]

Why would they want Josie to win? What would they possibly gain from that?

some say (from other threads) its because they need to choose someone to represent them well that is overall liked and not hated. Sam has massive fans but is hated alot and josie hardly isnt. :L

i can see why they would do this but dont personally think they do...

[LBB11]

It was a fix so to say because it was a vote to evict and not to save if it was a vote to save there would have been 4other hm left than the ones that are there even davina said she didnt like the way the voting was done on fridays BBBM.

[Vicky.]

Josie got the free ticket to the final.

I think whoever would have got the free ticket to the final it would have still been a vote to evict......

I agree with this.

However I very much doubt that it would have been a quad if josie was not safe.

Sorry to be cynical, but something just was not right about them not announcing it earlier :S

[Livia]

Yeah I edited it afterwards, read your post totally wrong :laugh:

Ahh... Okay. I was just about to offer you out to the car park for a fight.

Joking obviously. You could take me, I'm rubbish.

[Beastie]

I agree with this.

However I very much doubt that it would have been a quad if josie was not safe.

Sorry to be cynical, but something just was not right about them not announcing it earlier :S

Your probably right Vicky!

Suppose it is all a bit cocked up.. the final and all.

But meh.. one less heart attack for me tomorrow night. We have some quite.. mild housemates.. it is going to be the most chilled out final for me in ages :cool:

Yeah man.

[daniel-lewis-1985]

some say (from other threads) its because they need to choose someone to represent them well that is overall liked and not hated. Sam has massive fans but is hated alot and josie hardly isnt. :L

i can see why they would do this but dont personally think they do...

Who? Big Brother? Why would they need anyone to "represent" them? lol

These people are pathetic.

Honestly why would bb need anyone to represent them lol the most rediculous conspiracy theory so far

[robb]

It may not have been a fix............but it was one HUGE HUGE MISTAKE. It took out the 2 characters (Corin and Sam) who could have challenged her. And John James would have at least added controversy (not sorry to see him go mind). Fact is fans of the big three took each other out, thanks to the farce of vote to evict four housemates ...............3 DAYS BEFORE THE FINAL. A shambles, a mess now we have BIG BORE11. Try talking this one up, Davina.......