Dave really seems to enjoy upsetting Mario

[cath03]

The live feed just now, he's been getting on to Mario about nominating him and has managed to get Josie and JJ having a dig at him too. I mean how dare Mario nominate Josie and Dave being so superior and special that they are. Josie also said to him 'what was that about that you and I will stick together after being in lockdown' to which Mario said that he had explained his reason for nominating her. He then laughed and said, this is ironic since you've admitted to nominating me twice, so what does it matter. Josie said she never made any promises in return to Mario. After that JJ, Josie and Dave were ripping into him about his nominations to the point that Mario had to leave the room.

It was really uncomfortable to watch and really showed how spiteful that they are. What made it worse was just how patronising and mocking they were saying 'come back moley, we love you really'.

I've noticed over the last couple of days now that those three can't wait to have a dig at him and were even mocking him whilst he was doing his speech on live feed. Who the heck do they think they are to feel that they have the right to treat him like that when all he's ever done is be sweet to them?

I can't believe that Josie and Dave will win over Mario. I really dislike them both and also JJ who I hope goes out the door first tonight. That will wipe the smug look from his face.

[DrunkerThanMoses]

They were horrible to him.

I see dave dsosent have the guts to tell mario he nomianted him the week before the evil noms.

Spiteful bastard

[Ramsay]

well tbh mario is meant to be dave and josies friend so i can see why theyd get pissed at him nominating them
dunno why jj is having a dig tho ive never seen them have a 1 on 1 conversation lol

[Malza]

well tbh mario is meant to be dave and josies friend so i can see why theyd get pissed at him nominating them
dunno why jj is having a dig tho ive never seen them have a 1 on 1 conversation lol

They ****ing nominated him as well, and it is part of the game to nominate someone

[cath03]

well tbh mario is meant to be dave and josies friend so i can see why theyd get pissed at him nominating them
dunno why jj is having a dig tho ive never seen them have a 1 on 1 conversation lol

Friendship should be a two-way street and they certainly weren't friendly to Mario. They were also hypocritical given that they have nominated him. So where is this friendship in return? Dave bitches about Mario at every opportunity that he can, and JJ can't wait to join in. However, Josie has also began to show her true colours.

If you had watched it, you would see for yourself just how spiteful and hypocritical that they were. It's like they don't care anymore knowing that the show is over after tonight. Mario's feelings don't matter to them.

[Beastie]

Poor Moley!

[Malza]

Dave and Josie where over and over bitching accusing and slamming on Mario how he could dare to nominate him... even that nobody JJ also started to comment.

It got worse and more and more aggressive towards Mario

First he tried to laugh about it, but got meaner and louder, and at one point Mario couldn't take it any more and went to the bathroom, saying he can't stand to be in the same room with them.

Even when he was gone, Dave still called him double faced and a snake

That was the worst and disgusting moment of BB 11 - They can really be proud of themself

[cath03]

They ****ing nominated him as well, and it is part of the game to nominate someone


Exactly. I was actually shaking my head with disbelief.

Poor Mario. I can't wait until he gets out of there away from these people. They really despise him.

[cazzy555]

Dave always seems to enjoy stirring things, I would have thought he would bother starting arguments on the last night but I'm guessing he's bored.

[Malza]

When Mario came back Dave run to him, telling him with the fakest smile that they where just joking, and that they "love him"
While he was away, he was still bitching, and didn't even have a second of a thought about how much they have just hurt him.

That guy disgusts me so much, I can hardly put it into words what an awful human being he is

[daniel-lewis-1985]

Since he's got into the final he's grown a very big head.

He thinks hes loved and is therfore is acting like a cocky tw@t

[cath03]

Since he's got into the final he's grown a very big head.

He thinks hes loved and is therfore is acting like a cocky tw@t

I assume it's Dave that you mean, but if so, then yes I agree.

[Kazanne]

When Mario came back Dave run to him, telling him with the fakest smile that they where just joking, and that they "love him"
While he was away, he was still bitching, and didn't even have a second of a thought about how much they have just hurt him.

That guy disgusts me so much, I can hardly put it into words what an awful human being he is

Well look how Dave stitched Ben up ,his 'best friend in the house' even going on about him weeks after he had gone,with friends like Dave,WHO needs enemies.

[daniel-lewis-1985]

I assume it's Dave that you mean, but if so, then yes I agree.

Yeah im talking 'bout Dave

[Malza]

I just which that scene would be shown on telly before the lines would close today

They should all see the true face of Dave and Josie

[cath03]

Well look how Dave stitched Ben up ,his 'best friend in the house' even going on about him weeks after he had gone,with friends like Dave,WHO needs enemies.


Yep, Ben was certainly taken in.

[cath03]

I just which that scene would be shown on telly before the lines would close today

They should all see the true face of Dave and Josie


That's what really annoys me. They know full well that the show is ending tonight and feel they can say whatever they please and that it will be too late for the public to change their minds about them.

[DrunkerThanMoses]

I dont understand why they attack him for nomianted them... when both have nominated him.

Twats

[cath03]

They were horrible to him.

I see dave dsosent have the guts to tell mario he nomianted him the week before the evil noms.

Spiteful bastard

Saint Dave and Saint Josie and clone JJ see themselves as so superior to Mario. How dare he even have reached the final and be breathing the same air as them.

[MargeryFan]

Dave was just bantering. I have no idea why BB published this as an argument. Mario is overreacting.

[Julie10]

And not long ago when Dave wanted gel in his hair he went to Mario and said. We were only joking Mario. If he was only joking why does he have to keep on repeating it. He is a vile shallow fat b!tchy old man that thinks because it has lost weight it is some hot cool stud. Ugly person, ugly spiteful personality.

The game is over, forget about nominations or does it think it will make a difference now, who cares, they've done nothing since Friday so it shows they got carried to the final off others backs? Josie the only woman in there to win..Go girl!

[Julie10]

Dave was just bantering. I have no idea why BB published this as an argument. Mario is overreacting.


No! Dave was not bantering. He was b!tching, picking on Mario to make himself look good and to remind the public of what Mario did as he thinks he is very popular and the public will punish Mario for upsetting poor sad little Dave.

[boomoo]

Friendship should be a two-way street and they certainly weren't friendly to Mario. They were also hypocritical given that they have nominated him. So where is this friendship in return? Dave bitches about Mario at every opportunity that he can, and JJ can't wait to join in. However, Josie has also began to show her true colours.

If you had watched it, you would see for yourself just how spiteful and hypocritical that they were. It's like they don't care anymore knowing that the show is over after tonight. Mario's feelings don't matter to them.

True. But Dave has had his eye on the money from day one. He would shop anyone if it meant he had a chance at the money. Most of the people who thought Dave was his friend found out he wasn't. Including Steve. When he nominated Steve he said it was because he would get on with the other men better. But he still pushed the fact that he was close to Steve because they were family men. Steve said he did not mind but it was a really bad thing to say.

Now he has turned on Mario simply because he thinks his competition is Mario.

[astrozombiee]

Dave's a horrible bully. All he ever talks about is how much he loves God but he's two-faced a backstabber and a skeeze - what would Jesus think? And Josie is just so hypocritical! "You can nominate me but don't come up to me and say lockdown buddies" as Mario rightly pointed out, she nominated him 2ce and went up to him moaning about neck massages! All she does is lie in bed with JJ1 so she's got a right to be nominated.
And as for JJ2, I don't even have an opinion on him. He's really is a John James clone but where JJ1 picked on women, JJ2 wouldn't dare pick on Josie because he see's her a strong person and because of her tie to his precious J-James. So instead he picks on Mario, because he's the most eccentric and probably the most temperamental.

[astrozombiee]

Dave was just bantering. I have no idea why BB published this as an argument. Mario is overreacting.

Yeah Dave wasn't bantering and IF he was - then it's not funny and if his idea of banter is bullying and upsetting people I dont think he should be, I accept banter & teasing as much as the next person but over the week's hes upset many people, including Sam, with his backstabbing & lying. Mario was really, genuinely upset and I dont blame the poor guy - they probably see him as a threat & werent bothered about anyone elses choices for noms. or Save + Replace, but they all grouped together to upset Mario and it felt like he was being personally victimized, also it wasn't fair. He didnt go behind anyones back.

[Patricia4]

Well look how Dave stitched Ben up ,his 'best friend in the house' even going on about him weeks after he had gone,with friends like Dave,WHO needs enemies.dave would stab anyone in the back. the man is a evil little knob.
he is also in need of help, he seems to be having a mid life crisis in the house.
trying to dress young and be one of the boys. how pathetic is dave the biggest dick in bb history.

[Malza]

That scene was the worst and ugliest moment of BB11

Over the last 3 days it was more and more obvious the Dave, Josie and the guy without personality had become a group of their own, all day only busy in telling each other how much they deserve to be where there are.

Andrew got lucky, because Josie liked him, but Mario was nothing more then a disruptive factor on their way to fame.
Good enough to give a massage whenever requested, not important enough to talk to him, or about him, with the slightest bit of respect.

The closer the final, the meaner and bitchier their comments.

That behaviour started already weeks ago, but ended today in a disgraceful and awkward bullying situation, where those 3 people started to loudly bitch, attack, blame and accuse Mario that he dared to nominate him (Something that is part of the game, and something they did with him as well)

This went several minutes until Mario went out of the room because he couldn't bare it any more.

Even IF (and he was for sure not) Dave was just bantering, the moment when you obviously see that you have deeply hurt someone, you should stop and ask yourself what you have done.

Not so Josie, Dave and the guy without personality, they still called him snake and double faced, loud enough Mario was still able to hear it.

Not even Andrew dared to look after Mario

Then they where allowed to leave the bedroom again. All 4 left the room, nobody gave a *******ck - The stupid monk even called Mario several times while making a funny voice, laughing over his own victory.

Minutes later when Mario appeared in the garden again, Dave went to him, trying to hug him (Mario shoved him away, it was obvious he wanted to be left alone), telling him with the fakest smile that he was just joking, repeating several times his meaningless "Dude...I love you moley"
He pestered him till Mario gave in and let Dave hug him.
Immediately Dave turned and walked away. Not one single word that he was sorry.

Later Mario sat in the garden, talking to Andrew, telling him that he was ok (which he was obviously not) and doesn't care any more. That he is ready to leave, because he is so sick of the people in the house who seem to always need to blame and reduce other people to things that have happened.

I am sure Dave, Josie and JJ where fully aware about the fact that it was the last day, and nobody would be able any more to judge them for their behaviour, which makes it even more disgusting.

It was nice to see, that Mario was able to leave that behind him and still enjoyed his final night, leaving the house with a smile, just glad to leave those people behind.

A shame that people like Dave where pampered by BB in a way of never showing that ugly side of him to the people without LF, and sad that tonight, he was even rewarded for being the person he was.

- rant over-

[Chels]

S'why I like him, he takes the pish ouuta everyone

[King Gizzard]

Its what you call

Banter

[Malza]

Well if you find that so amusing, I hope your life will be full of Dave's, you will like it I guess

[MTVN]

Its what you call

Banter

S'why I like him, he takes the pish ouuta everyone

^ This.

Have you really latched on to the fact that Dave just likes to take the mick out of everyone yet? He's been one of Mario's closest freinds in the house since day one, there was no mailicious intent behind it

[MTVN]

Well if you find that so amusing, I hope your life will be full of Dave's, you will like it I guess

Me and my friends always take the piss out of each other :dance:

[vesavius]

Yeah Dave wasn't bantering and IF he was - then it's not funny and if his idea of banter is bullying and upsetting people I dont think he should be...

Your (was) a Sam supporter... How can you even make this post with a straight face?

Or are you one of those guys that judges 'bullying' and 'upsetting' only according to who it is being 'bullied' and 'upset' and not the act itself?

[Malza]

^ This.

Have you really latched on to the fact that Dave just likes to take the mick out of everyone yet? He's been one of Mario's closest freinds in the house since day one, there was no mailicious intent behind it

Dave was never Marios friend, Dave was never anyone's real friend in the house. The only person Dave liked was himself, like he was all day just talking about himself.
How pathetic

[Malza]

Me and my friends always take the piss out of each other :dance:

I guess you are about 14...16...17?

[MTVN]

I guess you are about 14...16...17?

17, but thats not really the point. By that you're implying that when you're a teenager and immature and everything it's acceptable, but as soon as you go past 20 you're suddenly so sensitive that you arent able to handle some friendly banter and it suddenly becomes insulting?

[MTVN]

Dave was never Marios friend, Dave was never anyone's real friend in the house. The only person Dave liked was himself, like he was all day just talking about himself.
How pathetic

Steve, Ben, Mario, Sunshine etc. - they were all friends with Dave

[Malza]

17, but thats not really the point. By that you're implying that when you're a teenager and immature and everything it's acceptable, but as soon as you go past 20 you're suddenly so sensitive that you arent able to handle some friendly banter and it suddenly becomes insulting?

What a surprise that I was right...;) anyway, just for the record, I am far far behind my 20s

The difference about a friendly bunter is, that the other person is not meant to get willingly upset. What Dave and the others did was far behind a friendly banter.

[Malza]

Steve, Ben, Mario, Sunshine etc. - they were all friends with Dave

He stabbed them (literally) all in the back, as soon as their where out of sight.

[Chels]

It's cos he's middle aged people say he's 'bullying' Mario, if he was a young un like Pepper then people would see it as banter... stupid really, you're never too old for a bit of a laugh

[headaball]

He stabbed them (literally) all in the back, as soon as their where out of sight.

:joker:

[Malza]

It's cos he's middle aged people say he's 'bullying' Mario, if he was a young un like Pepper then people would see it as banter... stupid really, you're never too old for a bit of a laugh

It was not the fact that he was middle aged, this whole thing was about the situation this afternoon, where 3 people where involved, not only Dave (the guy without personality is younger then Mario, even Josie is younger) but in that situation all 3 of them behaved like ass****les

[MTVN]

What a surprise that I was right...;) anyway, just for the record, I am far far behind my 20s

The difference about a friendly bunter is, that the other person is not meant to get willingly upset. What Dave and the others did was far behind a friendly banter.

Ok, and the relevance of my age is? I wasnt trying to guess your age, it was just the tone of your post kind of implied that having a bit of friendly banter was typical of teenagers, and only teenagers, and the notion that I could be over 17 and still engage in it was impossible.

Like Chels said, there didnt seem to be a problem when Sam was telling Josie it should be illegal for her to be a bikini. You're just ranting about Dave doing it because you find it too hard to believe that a middle-aged man could jokingly taken the mick without it being malicious

[MTVN]

It was not the fact that he was middle aged, this whole thing was about the situation this afternoon, where 3 people where involved, not only Dave (the guy without personality is younger then Mario, even Josie is younger) but in that situation all 3 of them behaved like ass****les

But from what you said Dave followed him out and told him that he loved him while attempting to hug. It seems that he realised Mario was getting a bit upset and wanted him to know he was just messing around, so why is he being targeted here?

[Malza]

Ok, and the relevance of my age is? I wasnt trying to guess your age, it was just the tone of your post kind of implied that having a bit of friendly banter was typical of teenagers, and only teenagers, and the notion that I could be over 17 and still engage in it was impossible.

Like Chels said, there didnt seem to be a problem when Sam was telling Josie it should be illegal for her to be a bikini. You're just ranting about Dave doing it because you find it too hard to believe that a middle-aged man could jokingly taken the mick without it being malicious

Ok, I apologize about the comment about the age, you are right, this should not be the subject of this discussion.
(Also english is not my mother language, so sometimes not everything may come across like it was meant when I wrote it)

I am pretty sure, that there was also a discussion about Sam being very (let's say) unkind to Josie, but I can't say how it was discussed, because I was not involved.

To get back to the point.
For me it has nothing to do with the age of dave, the situation would have had the same meaning if 3 40 year old would do that 50 year old guy.

It is just not a friendly banter any more if you do such thing over and over again, always to the same person, knowing that person gets upset.

And the problem with Daves "I love you moley" excuse is, that he never really meant them to be an excuse. If so, he would have at last once said. I have gone to far, I am sorry that I have upset you, I will not do it again... But he just said "I love you" turned around just to bitch again about him to someone else.
THAT is no friendship.

[Malza]

But from what you said Dave followed him out and told him that he loved him while attempting to hug. It seems that he realised Mario was getting a bit upset and wanted him to know he was just messing around, so why is he being targeted here?

I think I have answered that already before. First he was calling him, but not in a way of being worried, he did the opposite and made a funny voice while doing it.
His excuses where never real, where never meant to make the other person feel better again, it was just an act of appease his conscience.

[MTVN]

Ok, I apologize about the comment about the age, you are right, this should not be the subject of this discussion.
(Also english is not my mother language, so sometimes not everything may come across like it was meant when I wrote it)

I am pretty sure, that there was also a discussion about Sam being very (let's say) unkind to Josie, but I can't say how it was discussed, because I was not involved.

To get back to the point.
For me it has nothing to do with the age of dave, the situation would have had the same meaning if 3 40 year old would do that 50 year old guy.

It is just not a friendly banter any more if you do such thing over and over again, always to the same person, knowing that person gets upset.

And the problem with Daves "I love you moley" excuse is, that he never really meant them to be an excuse. If so, he would have at last once said. I have gone to far, I am sorry that I have upset you, I will not do it again... But he just said "I love you" turned around just to bitch again about him to someone else.
THAT is no friendship.

No worries, apology accepted, I guess I misunderstood the tone of your post

Anyway, back to the incident at hand, I genuinely dont think Dave intended to hurt Mario. Dave seems clearly to have quite a dry sense of humour and, in my opinion, this is often misunderstood as him being a snake, backstabbing etc. Take his friendship with Ben, a lot of people here criticised Dave saying that he's been insulting Ben and calling him every name under the sun and then pretended to be is best mate when he came back. Yet Dave mentioned a couple of times that "Benny" was his best mate in the house and that he would have left if Ben had been evicted week 2. Any insulting of him has seemed to me to be more affectionate than malicious.

The same could be said here. At the beggining when there was clearly different groups in the house, Dave was always with Mario, Sunshine and Ben. And I've yet to see Dave really criticise Mario, aside from when he was put on the Save & Replace task. Him going out in the garden and telling him he loves him was kind of his way of saying "I was only messing about, no need to be offended"

Anyway, I'm off to bed now, I'm completely shattered :sleep:

[Malza]

Of course, Dave has a dry sometimes sarcastic humour, and for a while I really liked him myself, but since the face-swap-incident he became manic about that topic.
And he missed the fine line when it would have been time to stop it because it was going out of hand.
You make joke around with others, but picking on others (in front of others) over and over again on the same subject causes harm to the other person...
Mario took it very long quite ok, he tried to excuse himself several times for what happened (even if there was no need, as it was part of the game and his right to nominate who ever he wants), he tried to ignore it, he tried to laugh as well when the others where laughing about him because Dave was going on, but today was the point, where he couldn't stand it any more.
A "friend" would have noticed that he went to far, a friend would have not continued further that point.

And same here, I need some sleep now

[headaball]

http://bb-cache.channel4.com/bigbrother/video/2010/Aug/25/exclusive-dave-interview/play.c4

Just after 2 mins. Dave mentions Mario as someone he's definitely going to stay in touch with along with Ben and Corin.

Still people don't get Dave's humour. Even though he goes a little too far at times it was obvious he liked Ben & Mario just as much, if not more than the others.

[Malza]

I would not ever trust in anything that guy says, not after he gave us the chance to know him better. I prefer to have 3 enemies instead of Dave as a friend

[slow&steady]

dave should've been the winner. no question.
i did kinda like mario but...am well glad that davo beat him.
he was such a selfish b***ard,when all's said and done.
plus total fail on the eviction suit 'mazza' total embarrassment.
i'm glad UBB is on now and we can get on with the real s**t.
Mario was a lame a**
glad that is all over,actually.
soz malza.

[Stacey.]

Well we all knew Dave was a right ***** anyway.

[The Truth Is Out There!]

I would not ever trust in anything that guy says, not after he gave us the chance to know him better. I prefer to have 3 enemies instead of Dave as a friend

:wavey: Couldn't 'quote' all of your postings - but well done! Your second language puts most of us to shame, you have put your point over better in a 'foriegn' language than many of us here can do in our 'own'! :spin:

[Malza]

:wavey: Couldn't 'quote' all of your postings - but well done! Your second language puts most of us to shame, you have put your point over better in a 'foriegn' language than many of us here can do in our 'own'! :spin:

Thanks for the compliment ;)

[Peter Plunker]

Mario took all Dave's ribbing on the chin. I spent some time with them both yesterday when I went down there and Mario can give it back just as well, they didn't show much of that. Mario is a really really nice guy in the flesh.

[DrunkerThanMoses]

Mario took all Dave's ribbing on the chin. I spent some time with them both yesterday when I went down there and Mario can give it back just as well, they didn't show much of that. Mario is a really really nice guy in the flesh.

If he ever comes to daves church.... can you tell me :joker:

[Peter Plunker]

If he ever comes to daves church.... can you tell me :joker:

He's going to the next sloshy.:D

[flamingGalah!]

He's going to the next sloshy.:D

Do you have any wheelchairs off ebay too Peter??

[zotec]

If I were Mario Id steer clear of most of them ie Dave especially but also JJJ and JJ .His true friends on the outside should put him straight soon surely as to who he could call a friend in there.Im thinking Iffy and Andrew. I think he'll be upset when he finds out how Ben used to bitch about him too.

[cath03]

If I were Mario Id steer clear of most of them ie Dave especially but also JJJ and JJ .His true friends on the outside should put him straight soon surely as to who he could call a friend in there.Im thinking Iffy and Andrew. I think he'll be upset when he finds out how Ben used to bitch about him too.


Well at least he and Ben have made up and I also think that Mario and Ben have some kind of mutual respect going on. They also have the measure of each other.

Dave on the otherhand, was a jealous, nasty, underhanded creep. He never had a good word to say about Mario..............ever.

He was more right up the JJJ's asses and was no friend to Mario at any time.